@Mitchel B i know what the plot is and the message behind it, but i just like his acting. at that current moment in time, they both believe what’s happening to a certain extent whether that’s because of infatuation or pure unawareness
Sigh. Yet people root for characters on Game of Thrones even though they are not innocent. Evan didn't just decide to lie to these people out of the blue. They assumed that he and Connor were friends and he didn't know how to correct them. He was also trying to help them. It wasn't about him at all at first. Now, were his actions OK? Of course not, but Evan isn't an evil or malicious person. He got caught up in a lie and didn't want to lose them. A liar? Yes. A villain? No.
@@Avery99g do not confuse such things with just common sense and an adequate assessment of the situation by the commentator -_- what you wrote is nothing more than absurdity
They're not talking about her dead brother, they're really not. Women especially are switched on to subtext, it's blatantly obvious what he's really talking about.
@@bradavon I always enjoys hearing about these superpowers of perception women have. xD The double entendre is the song, my friend- one is saying one thing while another is hearing it through their perception. None of this is really about Connor- that's the humor.
Difference is she looks 16 and he looks 28. Ben is an amazing talent but you can't tell me there wasn't one of the other Evan's that could do this role and it wouldn't have detracted
So does that mean that he was 23 and she was 20 when they made this? Cuz I keep hearing people say this movie was made 5 years before it came out. And now I’m just confused. 😅
Yeah, don’t see why everyone is up in arms about Ben Platt’s age. Look back on the cast of Grease. John Travolta, Olivia Newton John…the whole cast was in their 30’s or close to it. It takes a while to build your talent and get recognized unless you’re in Disney club or hit lightning on RUclips. So yeah, stuff it people!
@@laraheli1054 no i meant the awkwardness evan faces in this song is that he's expressing his thoughts of zoe but he's making it seem like connor liked him lol
Yeah, let's just be glad the film didn't adapt the stage version's ending for this song, where Even tries to plant a kiss on Zoe. On her brother's bed. After he died.
the fact that this is all how evan feels about her and she buys that those were connors emotions kinda shows that evan and connor would've made great friends.
Um no it doesn’t? Him noticing those things doesn’t have anything to do with Evan and Connor’s connection plus she’s just being gaslight into seeing the good things about her brought for most of the play so it’s not like she’s even in a normal state of emotional/mental well being.
True, this song has always been more disturbing than sweet to me, since Evan is basically lying to Zoe about her dead brother, who she believes wasn't as horrible as she thought.
@@ScottLulu but it’s not wrong though? Technically he’s lying to her, saying that her dead brother wanted to tell her all this stuff, but was too afraid to, when in reality, it’s him who wants to tell her. But he’s still lying….
@@Lilypad_qq he was trying to help her family. They were happy to hear he had a friend and some good things about him and he didn’t want to ruin that for them.
In the interviews they said he did a lot of these scenes live. And that's why a lot of the crew would start crying cos his voice and the emotion was so raw.
@@kirin1230 The soundtrack versions of the songs for this movie are much better than the ones used in the movies. Their voices sound much cleaner and clearer in the soundtrack version
He uses Connor as a tool to get through to other people, but in the same time, fills connors family with hope that Connor had even a hint of good in him.
He said There's nothing like your smile Sort of subtle and perfect and real He said You never knew how wonderful That smile could make someone feel And he knew Whenever you get bored You scribble stars on the cuffs of your jeans And he noticed That you still fill out the quizzes That they put in those teen magazines But he kept it all inside his head What he saw he left unsaid And though he wanted to He couldn't talk to you He couldn't find the way But he would always say If I could tell her Tell her everything I see If I could tell her How she's everything to me But we're a million worlds apart And I don't know how I would even start If I could tell her If I could tell her He thought It looked pretty cool when you put indigo streaks in your hair And he wondered how you learned to dance Like all the rest of the world, isn't there But he kept it all inside his head What he saw he left unsaid If I could tell her Tell her everything I see If I could tell her How she's everything to me But we're a million worlds apart And I don't know how I would even start If I could tell her If I could tell her But what do you do when there's this great divide? He just seemed so far away And what do you do when the distance is too wide? It's like I don't know anything And how do you say I love you I love you I love you I love you But we're a million worlds apart And I don't know how I would even start If I could tell her If I could
i love ben platt, hate him in this role. there is so many younger actors who would’ve been a much better fit for this role. in an attempt to make him look younger they made him look older. you can see the makeup and the wrinkles and that hair was not it.
I think that’s something a lot of movie adaptations of musicals struggle with, Les Mes is a really good example of this. I think it’s because they think it seems more dramatic and less “cartoony” than watching it on broadway.
How did none of the THOUSANDS of crew members with their eyes on this stop and say to themselves, "Hey, this is literally the creepiest fucking thing that has ever existed"?
Also, how did none of them say "We can't use this actor. He's clearly a grown man and doesn't look like he could be a high school student. We need to cast a younger actor for this part"?
Evan’s love letter , & telling Kaitlyn tht. He’s. Really the one who has the crush her all along. But doesn’t. Want her to know but covers it up in the song & says Connor. Said all that. Stuff. To. spare her feelings. Due. to his. Death.
while Conner is a bully like when he was in school like he always tossed those papers in has hand while he technically wrote his name on the coast he was act like to be his friend with Evan some point and Evan fell on top the tree while broke his arm while Conner die for the first time while being seeing Evan try to help him up like becoming a friend to him I know it’s just a sad movie perhaps but it was a little emotional and Conner through his hand in the wall like being mad at something what was wrong with him while being in a fight shame sense?
Hollywood really needs to stop this trope of casting 20-30 year old actors to play High School students. Would it really kill them to get ACTUAL TEENAGERS?
Agreed. I loved the show - but it haunted me. The more I “routed” for Evan, I realised how dark this show is. I like it though. It’s good to shine a spotlight on complexities of suffering and how they might manifest. Good show to watch guys if taken in respectful context
What he saw he left unsaid so how would even know if “Connor” told him that. Is it really unsaid? That’s one big flaw in his song to show it’s really his emotions. Small things make a great message to a song
The fact that Ben looks way too old actually makes the character of Evan even worse. What Evan does is absolutely horrible. But you’re able to forgive him for that since he’s supposed to be this naïve teenage who didn’t think all of this through. But because Ben looks too old, all I see is this grown man-child trying to get involved in this dead kids family. It makes Evan come off as some kind of sociopath
@@57andstillkicking This further proves my point on why Hollywood needs the stop casting 20-30 year old actors to play High School students. Would it really kill them to get ACTUAL TEENAGERS?
@@joewhitehead3 Not at all. The stage show is totally different. There is a bootleg on RUclips of Ben Platt doing Evan on broadway. I think you would really enjoy that.
He sounds like Michael crawford crossed with Mumford and sons begging for air while also doing opera while his speaking voice is a cross between hughie from the boys and Steve Carol
He isn't singing. In musicals the songs aren't "songs" unless someone is giving a performance. They are the person's thoughts or dialogue; we just hear them as music.
This comments section is bullshit, some people in here need to get a grip. Evan Hansen ISN'T A VILLAIN. Just because he lied doesn't make him a villain, come on.
His acting isn't the problem. It's the direction. He got so used to playing it to the back of the house that he did it in the movie and the director didn't tell him to correct it. It's a great on-stage performance. It just felt a bit extra for the movie. Even still, I don't understand why this movie gets as much hate as it does. Someone called it worse than Cats. That makes absolutely no sense
@Mitchel B my point is just that there are so many talented people the same age as the role that's being cast. It's beyond time that Hollywood casts teenagers as teenagers.
Ben Platt is 28 and Kaitlyn Dever is 25. I don't know why people have been complaining about his age, when she is also in her 20s just like him lol. It isn't like they casted a young teen girl to go with this man in his 20's.
@@juliacahoon7093 Exactly!!! I’m so sick of Hollywood casting 20-30 year old actors to play High School students. Would it really kill them to get ACTUAL TEENAGERS?
This sure is one way to proclaim one’s love for another
No just no
I mean, it was only on Evan's part, but, yeah sure.
the way ben sings perfect- it just makes it all so genuine for the characters
@Mitchel B i know what the plot is and the message behind it, but i just like his acting. at that current moment in time, they both believe what’s happening to a certain extent whether that’s because of infatuation or pure unawareness
@Mitchel B no of course i totally agree
This is really one of the best villain songs of all time.
😂😂😂
Sigh. Yet people root for characters on Game of Thrones even though they are not innocent. Evan didn't just decide to lie to these people out of the blue. They assumed that he and Connor were friends and he didn't know how to correct them. He was also trying to help them. It wasn't about him at all at first. Now, were his actions OK? Of course not, but Evan isn't an evil or malicious person. He got caught up in a lie and didn't want to lose them. A liar? Yes. A villain? No.
@@misspriss2482 I agree with your reply
@@misspriss2482 you the type of person to be like well hitler had some good sides
@@Avery99g do not confuse such things with just common sense and an adequate assessment of the situation by the commentator -_-
what you wrote is nothing more than absurdity
It's the little responses from Ms. Dever that got me weak.
"I do that ironically"
"No fucking way" 😳
Same
In the Broadway version, she rejects Evan's advances here because WTF Evan we're mourning her dead brother here.
Also she's hearing those words thinking Connor said them
They're not talking about her dead brother, they're really not. Women especially are switched on to subtext, it's blatantly obvious what he's really talking about.
Do young people worry about getting up in the morning in case they fall out of bed? Don't take things quite so literally man.
@@bradavon I always enjoys hearing about these superpowers of perception women have. xD The double entendre is the song, my friend- one is saying one thing while another is hearing it through their perception. None of this is really about Connor- that's the humor.
Ben Platt is amazing, and I am glad he was in the movie. Yes , he is 28- but Kaitlyn Dever is 25, so she isn't a young teen either. He is so talented
Difference is she looks 16 and he looks 28. Ben is an amazing talent but you can't tell me there wasn't one of the other Evan's that could do this role and it wouldn't have detracted
@@heinenbard i see everyone say this but i really think he looks young in this, like 18 or 19
@@Setyx That's because you're wrong.
So does that mean that he was 23 and she was 20 when they made this? Cuz I keep hearing people say this movie was made 5 years before it came out.
And now I’m just confused. 😅
Yeah, don’t see why everyone is up in arms about Ben Platt’s age. Look back on the cast of Grease. John Travolta, Olivia Newton John…the whole cast was in their 30’s or close to it. It takes a while to build your talent and get recognized unless you’re in Disney club or hit lightning on RUclips. So yeah, stuff it people!
Ben Platt in this movie is my new facecast for Peter Pettigrew. You cannot change my mind.
you didn't have to murder him but ok
💀
Timothee Chalamet is my Tom Riddle face cast.
I’m that anxious kid who can only communicate my emotions through music I relate way too much
That’s creepy AF
@@wafflewafflegod I’m the same way. I prefer music over words. The bot is right.
@ - sounds like you might be acoustic like the original commenter
@@wafflewafflegod Really? It’s a bot. I mean, you’re not wrong, but I don’t think a bot can have disabilities.
Ben is the best bro his voice is so angelic 😭
bro evan is making it sound like connor had a crush on his sister-
that's the point....
Ele se perdeu no personagem
@@jordankent3701 what do you think this film is about? 😬
@@laraheli1054 no i meant the awkwardness evan faces in this song is that he's expressing his thoughts of zoe but he's making it seem like connor liked him lol
@@laraheli1054 Its about how her brother was checking her out and telling his "friend" about it?
I wasn't prepared for all the tears that came from this song
"I do that ironically" 😍🤣
My god His voice is so beautiful 🤩… by far the most beautiful male voice of all time.
Bros really flexing on all us guys wish wish we had that vocal range.
Try listening to the original broadway cast! He has the same voice but its more concentrated instead of how this is live
@@OMORIFROMOMORI This wasn't live - this was from the movie...
@@justine15422fun fact! Ben actually sang this on set, another version of the songs was recorded and put into the movie soundtrack.
Yeah, let's just be glad the film didn't adapt the stage version's ending for this song, where Even tries to plant a kiss on Zoe. On her brother's bed. After he died.
So that’s where the whole thing comes from. The whole Jared yelling thing.
Do you think it ever crossed Evans mind that, should his lie be revealed, Zoe might be concerned as to how he knows some of the things he says?
Would she be flattered or creeped out?
@@joewhitehead3 i don't feel like a sane person would feel flattered after the lie lol
That's restraining order material right there
I don’t think he was thinking that far.
Ben Platt always looks so tense I this movie
in
Their voices together!!!!!!
My God! His voice!! Such a talented and gifted actor! 🥰
the fact that this is all how evan feels about her and she buys that those were connors emotions kinda shows that evan and connor would've made great friends.
No because she didn't know anything really about conner
@@cattam_gacha3882 well obviously she knew stuff about connor, it's her brother.
@@l.a.3479 no i have seen the movie actually. she knows things about connor from when they were kids.
No it shows the brother wants to bang the sister
Um no it doesn’t? Him noticing those things doesn’t have anything to do with Evan and Connor’s connection plus she’s just being gaslight into seeing the good things about her brought for most of the play so it’s not like she’s even in a normal state of emotional/mental well being.
it straight up made me cry bruh like everytime i listened to the song😭
depressed kid gets girlfriend by lying about dead brother.
True, this song has always been more disturbing than sweet to me, since Evan is basically lying to Zoe about her dead brother, who she believes wasn't as horrible as she thought.
Talk about a horrible take. Clearly it was over your head.
Can’t even imagine doing something like that
@@ScottLulu but it’s not wrong though? Technically he’s lying to her, saying that her dead brother wanted to tell her all this stuff, but was too afraid to, when in reality, it’s him who wants to tell her. But he’s still lying….
@@Lilypad_qq he was trying to help her family. They were happy to hear he had a friend and some good things about him and he didn’t want to ruin that for them.
The animatics hit harder
IKR 😍 😭
This is my favorite song in the show
Sameeee, I haven’t watched the show yet but I found this song years ago though a MAP and became obsessed
Without context this song is super cute. With context its just…yeah…
I can’t stop thinking how he looks like Will Ferrell
I can't unsee this now
Fred Armisen to me. Like, uncannily. Only with a pound of pancake makeup.
Sound quality of this movie is something else. Holy moly 🥴
Is that compliment?
In the interviews they said he did a lot of these scenes live. And that's why a lot of the crew would start crying cos his voice and the emotion was so raw.
@@mephistopheles5735 EVEN the Les Mis movie didn't have such bad sound mixing, and that movie's songs suffered from live recording as well.
@@kirin1230 The soundtrack versions of the songs for this movie are much better than the ones used in the movies. Their voices sound much cleaner and clearer in the soundtrack version
I think it sounded fine.
For some reason the last “yOuOoU”made me laugh.😂
I really wonder why they made the choice to switch the lyrics/dialogue on the "indigo streaks in your hair" line
But really, I wanted to hear “he didn’t” 😂
You mean the you looked really pretty ahem it looked pretty cool?
Trying to find an excuse to say the F word? I dunno. I thought the original line was funnier than “No F ing way” but it was funny
@@THE_TOMCROWELLthey’re not talking about Zoe’s line though so why not just put Evans in when he says “he thought you looked really pretty…”
@@vampera82 I think I was just trying to make a regular comment and forgot I was on this little comment thread. So oopsie poopsie
He uses Connor as a tool to get through to other people, but in the same time, fills connors family with hope that Connor had even a hint of good in him.
He’s so goood
This song is incredibly messed up when you think about it in the context of the story. Really just shows how dark the plot really is.
Yet is seems so sweet when you take out the part about the grieving, the brother, and the depression. And the kiss.
This song: 😁🥰🤩😇
This song with context: 😟😳🤮😨
He said
There's nothing like your smile
Sort of subtle and perfect and real
He said
You never knew how wonderful
That smile could make someone feel
And he knew
Whenever you get bored
You scribble stars on the cuffs of your jeans
And he noticed
That you still fill out the quizzes
That they put in those teen magazines
But he kept it all inside his head
What he saw he left unsaid
And though he wanted to
He couldn't talk to you
He couldn't find the way
But he would always say
If I could tell her
Tell her everything I see
If I could tell her
How she's everything to me
But we're a million worlds apart
And I don't know how I would even start
If I could tell her
If I could tell her
He thought
It looked pretty cool when you put indigo streaks in your hair
And he wondered how you learned to dance
Like all the rest of the world, isn't there
But he kept it all inside his head
What he saw he left unsaid
If I could tell her
Tell her everything I see
If I could tell her
How she's everything to me
But we're a million worlds apart
And I don't know how I would even start
If I could tell her
If I could tell her
But what do you do when there's this great divide?
He just seemed so far away
And what do you do when the distance is too wide?
It's like I don't know anything
And how do you say
I love you
I love you
I love you
I love you
But we're a million worlds apart
And I don't know how I would even start
If I could tell her
If I could
What I like about dear Evan Hansen is how much it feels like a satire with good intentions
i love ben platt, hate him in this role. there is so many younger actors who would’ve been a much better fit for this role. in an attempt to make him look younger they made him look older. you can see the makeup and the wrinkles and that hair was not it.
Pls- lmao 🥲
My dad had grey hair in high school. There's no real logic in saying Platt looks too old.
@@Ringohulk777 It's not just the hair. You can clearly tell that guy is not a high school student
Whoever green lit that hair should not work in Hollywood.
that thumbnail is the funniest thing ever
He truly was born for this role wasn't he 🥲
His dad was the producer lol
@@loganhall7273 I know 😂
And five other guys played the character
Why did they make him look like a creepy middle-aged guy?
Probably because the actor who played him is 28 years old
Omg i shouldn't read all these shitty comments
@Mitchel B ❤️
Or make one yourself 🙄
I feel the movie version of the song was trying to be too much like dialogue and didnt have enough singing tone
I think that’s something a lot of movie adaptations of musicals struggle with, Les Mes is a really good example of this. I think it’s because they think it seems more dramatic and less “cartoony” than watching it on broadway.
Ok Ben looks a bit old but not more than 20 in this but Kaitlyn looks the right age at least especially since she’s 25
How did none of the THOUSANDS of crew members with their eyes on this stop and say to themselves, "Hey, this is literally the creepiest fucking thing that has ever existed"?
Also, how did none of them say "We can't use this actor. He's clearly a grown man and doesn't look like he could be a high school student. We need to cast a younger actor for this part"?
anyone else kind of pissed that they gave the f-bomb to Zoe? personally i thought they would give it to connor or jared since that made more sense.
I guess it shows how doubtful she was, but you’re right.
@@cooper6381 oh yeah true
Jordan Fisher would have killed it. I get using Ben Platt, but I just can’t get past how old he looks.
They’re only a year apart in age
I don't think Jordan would've been able to get away with it in the movie, either.
I would have loved to see Michael Lee Brown or Sam Tutty as Evan in the movie.
@@Father_of_Death Sam Tutty. 👍
Evan’s love letter , & telling Kaitlyn tht. He’s. Really the one who has the crush her all along. But doesn’t. Want her to know but covers it up in the song & says Connor. Said all that. Stuff. To. spare her feelings. Due. to his. Death.
I love this so so much - always hit the spot ❤
So a professional make up artist did Ben’s face?
yep
I fcking love Ben Platt
Amazing
while Conner is a bully like when he was in school like he always tossed those papers in has hand while he technically wrote his name on the coast he was act like to be his friend with Evan some point and Evan fell on top the tree while broke his arm while Conner die for the first time while being seeing Evan try to help him up like becoming a friend to him I know it’s just a sad movie perhaps but it was a little emotional and Conner through his hand in the wall like being mad at something what was wrong with him while being in a fight shame sense?
I prefer him playing Evan on stage. Should’ve casted someone younger for this Evan
Exactly
Hollywood really needs to stop this trope of casting 20-30 year old actors to play High School students. Would it really kill them to get ACTUAL TEENAGERS?
Or not had the awful hair in the movie
Looooooooooove!!!!!
I wish it was “obviously” I’ve that version
@@justlachie ikr!
imagine disguising your love as the love of her dead brother who commited self-death
Agreed. I loved the show - but it haunted me. The more I “routed” for Evan, I realised how dark this show is. I like it though. It’s good to shine a spotlight on complexities of suffering and how they might manifest. Good show to watch guys if taken in respectful context
What he saw he left unsaid so how would even know if “Connor” told him that. Is it really unsaid? That’s one big flaw in his song to show it’s really his emotions. Small things make a great message to a song
This is creepy. Why is a middle aged man in the home of a high schooler and hitting on her? Where is Chris Hansen?
Where can i watch this show?
I think it’s on Prime Video to rent
What’s the movie
This is so twisted lmao
Creepy, ok, tiene una voz hermosa, TAMBIÉN
i’m sorry but my family and i made it an hour into this movie before turning it off
Why
@@simoncaruana4613 Maybe they found it cringey, or maybe they didn't vibe with the moral implications of gaslighting a grieving family 🤷♂️
@@billqiu4692this is fake. This didn’t actually happen.
Patrick Bateman on broadway
They couldn’t have made Ben’s character any more unlikable in this movie.
The fact that Ben looks way too old actually makes the character of Evan even worse. What Evan does is absolutely horrible. But you’re able to forgive him for that since he’s supposed to be this naïve teenage who didn’t think all of this through. But because Ben looks too old, all I see is this grown man-child trying to get involved in this dead kids family. It makes Evan come off as some kind of sociopath
@@superjackster0165
Exactly!
@@57andstillkicking This further proves my point on why Hollywood needs the stop casting 20-30 year old actors to play High School students. Would it really kill them to get ACTUAL TEENAGERS?
Isn’t this how the character is in the stage show?
@@joewhitehead3
Not at all. The stage show is totally different. There is a bootleg on RUclips of Ben Platt doing Evan on broadway. I think you would really enjoy that.
did they totally ditch the kids in this version?
This movie is what happens when you don’t try to kiss Zoe Murphy on her brother’s bed AFTER HE DIED
This movie is up there with The Room in terms of being unintentionally funny. Nepo Platt is such a goof.
So…this is what she now thinks her BROTHER thought of her?
It would be quasi-incestuous…
I guess nothing a few years of therapy won’t fix… 😂
He sounds like Michael crawford crossed with Mumford and sons begging for air while also doing opera while his speaking voice is a cross between hughie from the boys and Steve Carol
No
Did he really say this
They took out the best lines, evens little slip on on the purple hair, and his, no he didnt under his breath right after...
What else was I suppose to do let your livelihood get hurt
What?
I NEVER KNEW KAITLYN DEVERS PLAYED THIS SCENE FOR LAUGHS
OH NAAAHH
ZOE RUN 😭😭😭😭😭
This is the moment when Walter became Heisenberg.😊
You know how dumb this would sound in real life singing to her without music
He isn't singing. In musicals the songs aren't "songs" unless someone is giving a performance. They are the person's thoughts or dialogue; we just hear them as music.
Actually, it sounds more natural to me without the music.
I consider this a Halloween movie
This comments section is bullshit, some people in here need to get a grip. Evan Hansen ISN'T A VILLAIN. Just because he lied doesn't make him a villain, come on.
He could've stopped the lie at any time. But he instead let it keep growing because of how much it was benefiting him
Stalker song....
Ok whatever
well now i know why he was nominated for WORST ACTOR at the Razzies 😂
Why?
His acting isn't the problem. It's the direction. He got so used to playing it to the back of the house that he did it in the movie and the director didn't tell him to correct it. It's a great on-stage performance. It just felt a bit extra for the movie. Even still, I don't understand why this movie gets as much hate as it does. Someone called it worse than Cats. That makes absolutely no sense
Booo! Shame! Ben is amazing!
He won a Tony award
Disagree completely.
Whatever
Why is this 40-year-old singing to this teenage girl? Creepy.
She's not a teen and he's not 40
@@braidena1633 Uhhhhh…that’s the joke! He looks way too old to be in high school.
Inlove the musical but this movie sucks and also Ben
this "person" shouldn't be allowed to sing in public - get real. AND he's 47
28, but yeah.. let a talented 17 year old play a talented 17 year old, right?!?!?!
@Mitchel B my point is just that there are so many talented people the same age as the role that's being cast. It's beyond time that Hollywood casts teenagers as teenagers.
Ben Platt has one of the most angelic voices ever, you take that back 🥺
Ben Platt is 28 and Kaitlyn Dever is 25. I don't know why people have been complaining about his age, when she is also in her 20s just like him lol. It isn't like they casted a young teen girl to go with this man in his 20's.
@@juliacahoon7093 Exactly!!! I’m so sick of Hollywood casting 20-30 year old actors to play High School students. Would it really kill them to get ACTUAL TEENAGERS?
If they would of just let Ben Platt use his own hair...he wouldn't look so f'ing ridiculous. Its so distracting.
They really should've just casted a younger actor in this part