Actually Installing a GPU in the $5 Windows 98 PC!
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Back in January I attempted to install a GPU in the 98 PC, and found out that the card got damaged during shipping. Well recently, a viewer generously donated another GPU! So let's try to install it, shall we?
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#MichaelMJD #Windows98 #GPU
At least someone installed a new gpu this year.
fx 5200 price in 2021: 420$USD
@@NuclearToastMusic I can confirm this is true for some listings!
the dislikes are from the 90w power supply.
@@NuclearToastMusic it has reduced to 169USD on Amazon now
@@healspringy6300 it was a joke
"So, the next time you guys see this monitor, this machine will be running Windows Vista!"
Famous last words.
Context?
@@90sNath 6:51
Actually, I would like to see Kolibri OS
Yeah me too
That OS name somehow reminds me of that tiny pistol lol
Ditto
Ys
Me too
This video: Windows 98 PC runs Windows Vista aero
Old times: Windows 98 PC explodes with Windows Vista aero
windows is daddyyyyyyyyy
technology is strange sometimes
If MJD got Geforce 6 Series on hand then he can get from Windows 95 to Windows 7 with aero running on the same machine,it's a little bit disppointed to see MJD not getting one of those.
PRETTY SURE he can handle Windows 12
@@ZERARCHIVE2023 😳👀
Michael MJD : installing a gpu in windows 98
Microsoft : are you stuck in June 1998
lol
he's my daddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
xbox 360 gaming
i wanna be stuck in august 2001 :(
Yep he is haha
I think you should do that video about the 64-bit Windows XP versions. That’s always confused me
I remember Microsoft had some sort of program where you could get a 64-bit upgrade of Windows XP, but I think it wasn't quite ready for production. I almost did it but when I researched it I realized there were no graphics drivers available for it for my card.
I don't think the xp 64 bit had proper directX drivers at all. A friend tried to set it up years ago and got nothing but a headache and homebrew drivers that never worked. He was in love with xp and refused to use newer windows versions, even though he spent most of his time trying to use those stupid, unofficial 13-gig "driver packs"
Windows XP Professional x64 is for AMD64 systems, while Windows XP 64-Bit Edition is for IA64 (Intel Itanium) systems.
Next video: Trying to mine cryptocurrency using a GPU on Windows 98
This would be a fun one.
Imposter
GONE WRONG, NEARLY DIED
omg its windows xp,i have it installed on my daily driver pc(because its old)dualbooted with my second most favourite windows,windows 7 ultimate
@@blobbydbob4350 maybe latitude d610 could mine if it supports 4gb
that moment when your anti virus is 21 years out of date...
still working :D
Oh no! Anyway...
Oof
yea
I laughed a little to hard when I saw that 😂
since i found you during covid lockdown, everything has been better.
kolibri would be a good idea because you haven't really taken a look at obscure operating systems (windows 12 is linux lite) except for reactos so i think it'd be a good video idea.
I am here earlier than that time I was early.
Cue family guy cutaway.
Yay
That doesnt make sence and I love it
???
If you put the ssd on the 98 box don’t forget to turn off the paging file or move it to a partition on a spinny disk or you’ll kill the ssd really quick. Also 98/XP and I think Vista does not include trim support
The background music reminds me of the dankpods "h.e.a.r.s." test
i think it is :)
@@joshparker132 yeah
the name of the song is "TrackBibe - Walking Through the park"
@@bokexd3173 thank you for the name. Btw its a very fitting name for the track!
I still can't get it off my head after a whole year
Legit didn't know about the Windows XP 64 bit differences. Would love someone to dumb that down for me lol
Also digging the editing
XP 64-bit is literally Server 2003 with XP "theme" :)
@@paulstelian97 what theme?
@@NotJohnTanner I mean Server 2003 doesn't normally have the Luna theme or the typical Consumer side of built in programs (such as games). XP x64 has them added back in.
@@paulstelian97 that makes sence
To make it more confusing, there is Windows XP 64-Bit Edition, which is for IA-64, and has two editions: one is based on Windows XP and the other on Windows Server 2003. Then there is Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, which is for AMD64 and is based on Windows Server 2003.
You should get an IDE to SD adapter since SD cards are quite more common and are quite inexpensive than compact flash cards. Not only that, most modern SD cards have decent speeds that it would max out the old ancient IDE ATA interface and as said cheaper to get than buying an SSD and trying to use an IDE to SATA adapter.
He already received the SSD he bought, he mentioned it at the end
@@laurinneff4304 for future projects it would still be good
why michael didnt pin you
Are you sure an sd card will max out the ide interface?
I have run Windows 10 RTM off an MicroSD on a relatively old computer (like 2007-ish, and 2 gigs of RAM) and it was a pretty good experience
Definitely replace the HDD with an SSD. I believe there’s also a workaround to get Windows 8.1 running on SSE1 processors, so that might make for an interesting video.
whats next, windows 7 on a pentium non mmx?
that won't work, he doesn't have a SATA to IDE adapter
also, did you forget this PC is from like the year 2000?
@@Manny732111990s*
or a 286
Lately I've been watching your older videos, and the difference between then and now is huge! You sound more energetic, the "welcome to another video" doesn't sound so robotic, and your videos have way more editing behind them, they're much more entertaining now! Please continue being like this, your videos became much better now.
Kolibri 0S: It's been 84 years...
ZeroS (0S)
OS*
ahh yes zero system
SSD hype. This saga fills the hole that Druaga1 leaves when he's not uploading, thank you
i sometimes wonder if they are brothers...
hey smoker, Drua- I mean MJD here
Michael: Im gonna put an ssd in the 98 PC
Me: Is literally running windows 10 on a 5400RPM HDD
do upgrade NOW!
120GB SSDs cost less than 20 Euros so please go ahesd and buy one
I have a 7200RPM HDD (500 GB), I have owned it for a while and it is still doing as much as I need it to. I doubt I'll get an SSD because I have no reason to.
This is such an awesome series; it’s so unique! I love all of the $5 Windows pc videos you put out, just so much fun to watch
Yes! At this point the $5 pc is just a mix-match of parts xD
I would recommend using a utility like Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 to ensure that your installation of Windows 98 is as updated as possible.
I don't know who you are or how you got in my reccomenedation, but I'm happy to be here and early on your video, also this seems like an interesting video :)
Update: just finished watching the video. I'm looking forward to get more of your videos reccomended to me!
he has so many good vids,i actually like him,which is not common,because i hate americans
I feel like a motherboard upgrade is just an entirely new PC at this point.
18 views
27 comments
43 likes
*Seems legit*
*views* are real views that watched the video more than 15 seconds, or idk
@@x5nash870 No, it has to do with synchronization of the counters over the world. Cause YT uses a CDN as it is decentralized. And synchronizing view and comment counters over multiple database servers is a complicated task. Tom Scott made a video about this: Why can't computers count or so.
@mjd This vid is a party of recognition, as I did all of your upgrades myself. But I do have to disappoint you on the performance of an ssd over IDE. It did not feel any better to me than an HDD. Kind regards
Quick recap recreation:
someone sent him an FX 5200, and it got damaged while shipping. When he asked the donator, It was apparently overclocked, so he tried to re-flash it, but he did it wrong and ended up bricking the old GPU.
I get BIOS bricks, but it's so strange that a GPU can be bricked.
What resolution is the PC at now? 1280x960?
I would definitely recommend going with an SSD rather than a CF or SD card in this case. NTFS (or any journaling file system) will eat through SD and CF cards rather quickly. Also there's the page file that would need to be taken into account. Awesome video and I'd definitely be interested in both a video on Kolibri and XP x64 and XP IA-64. :)
I'm pretty sure this is the first time something has actually worked out. Looking forward to the SSD installation!
Why swap the DVD drives' front covers and have an empty hole now when you just could swap the entire drive? Or is the donator drive broken?
yeah, he said that the donor drive was broken and it didn't work properly
"Your anti virus subscription is 7700 days old"
Mjd: Looks like the virus subscription is *SLIGHTLY* out of date
This PC has gotten more attention than I did my entire childhood lmao
16:19 I love the way in the first office 2010 bootleg you said microsoft would never make a grammar mistake like that. then here we are lol
edit: just relised it happened at 18:03 too btw under digital signer
Actually they used a short form of 'signature' as 'Signer'. Look closely and you can notice a period ( .) Instead of colon ( : ). So, Michael MJD is right.
I wonder if you were to add up everything you have spent on the $5 PC how much it would "actually" cost?
a lot of money
a trilion dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7 dollars, a double cheeseburger and some chuck e cheese tokens.
I was _literally_ just watching the Windows 12 video again, and then I see this!
Also, hopefully this GPU actually works...
You installed Vista, but at what price ?
The pc : Everything.
8:47 Wow, thats my first DVD-ROM drive! I remember that cheep-o Ultra i-Tower (very catchy name) with 512 Megs of ram that DVD-ROM drive, and some kind of Radeon card, still have the case, but I recycled the mobo, kept the Pentium 4 cpu and restore cd because it has a lot of great software on it.
Yes i want to see the video about kalibroOS. Correct me if I'm wrong
Samsung 970 EVO is a nvme drive. You cannot plug it into a sata expansion card. You have to buy 860 evo to have a data interface.
When will you do a face reveal?
when he wants.
I know you aren't trying to be mean or rude and are just asking when he will do one but jeez let the man reveal his face whenever he likes, don't pressure people into doing stuff because they might feel uncomfortable
Did you just assume he has a face? That's very face-ist of you.
@@stonent i hate being part of gen z 🤦♂️
@@dinkyeepy i know but i was just askin not pressuring, i asked because maybe he thinks that we dont want one or anything sooo
Do this with Windows 7 and install Vista driver (theoretically it's compatible)
I used to have an FX5200 gpu, then one of our local pc fixers guild told me He had an HD3650 AGP, I just had to have it, I gave him the fx5200 and an fx5600 I had laying around, best deal ever in my opinion, it's so overpowered for it being an AGP card
one of the best ones there is, only better ones are the 3850 agp and the 4670 agp
But not 98 compatible
Michael: "So this could be vista or 7 so let's remove the disc"
Me: But you wanted to test Aero Glass, and 7 also has Aero Glass, so why?
The fun thing about SSDs is that they use the SATA interface, like anything from the past 15 years. It's a shame the windows 98 pc doesn't have SATA but even with an adapter, it's amazing how you can fit the latest hardware and the fastest possible drives (excluding NVMe of course) in a pc that was made years ago
nvme to sata exists, then add sata to ide :D
@@bookshelffury that's true but it won't get you any speed over a data SSD
Use pciexpress to nvme adapter
If you keep the black DVD player in the middle and put the CD player up top, it would look decent. Maybe just paint the front plate if you want it matching?
I just realized something, you're making your voice sound more lively so people will stop saying your voice sounds like Microsoft Sam
sounds the same
Only the error message readout sounded like SAM to me :D
Thank God you finally upgraded the gpu!!! If you ever wondered why the integrated gpu caused so many problems such as low res, low colour depth images or things not displaying properly, that's because the VESA compatibility in the integrated gpu is crap!!! To put it simply, VESA compatibility allows an OS to run at resolutions higher than VGA res without graphics drivers installed. By the year 2000 most GPUs where compatible with VESA 3.0. With VESA 3 this is how you are able to see the typical Windows 7 boot screen, the "Windows is loading files.." text in higher 1024x768 res instead of 80x25 text mode and also when you boot into Windows XP or newer with no Graphics Drivers, you can run in 800x600 and higher in 16 or 32bit colour depth. Intel's graphics however where stuck on VESA 2.0 until the GMA 950 which only allows 640x480 in 4bit (16 colours) colour depth without dedicated graphics drivers. If it was up to me I would have changed the GPU on day 1 of having that PC for better compatability!! By the way your channel is awesome!!!!
I used to have a working FX 5200, and Longhorn builds will usually natively have the GPU drivers installed, aero on 4074 works but can be sluggish, some newer builds have better performance. The FX 5200 is one of the better cards for easy aero on Longhorn.
I love these kinds of experiments "what if"
21:06 In honor of Druaga1 this PC should have a SSD installed.
this is where I go when Druaga1 doesn’t upload; good show !
I have that exact GPU, I found it for free at my local PC store.
TBH i guess eventually it's just easier to distinguish both versions of XP64 as the 2003 and 2005 release, with XP64 2005 being the one most people would want to use
So yeah, do make the video on the XP64 versions
Also, indeed make a video on Kolibri.
This is a nice way to think about it, thanks!
snappy driver installer might be a good thing to look into for you.
I built a new-old computer
Philips Brilliance 107P5 17 (can go up to 2k resolution 60 Hertz and 160 Hz at the lowest resolution)
socket 754 Sempron 2800+
Winfast mobo SIS chipset agp8x
512mb ddr1 RAM
Nvidia fx5500 (5200 actually) 256 mb vram
Seagate pipeline 300gb hdd (cheapest stuff here)
A beautiful White brand new cpu case which comes with a ATX 350 watt psu which can provide a lot of wattage from 5volt
Seeing old these retro/nostalgia builds and I'm actually surprised that I didn't get any issues like nothing whatsoever. I guess I'm really lucky considering everything but hdd and case/psu are second hand.
Here’s hoping it goes better this time :D
Rookie numbers, my protection is 15409 days out of date
You should try a lite version of Windows 7, and see if ram usage is any lower. And maybe use an updated driver found on the Nvidia driver page.
vibin to that dankpods headphone test song
Its not the 5$ Windows 98 PC anymore😢 Its the 5$ Windows Vista PC now!
Maybe it’s broken or something, but why did you bother switching the front plates when you could have just have just installed the beige dvd drive into the computer?
The beige one is...somewhat broken
Does it support windows 7?
Oh! Amazing!
Wait, it’s been 2 months since the GPU, the one N00bUltra seen you, was mentioned.
I’m ready to hope that the GPU works this time...
Infamous 5 dollar 98PC, the best
Michael, please make the Kolibri OS video.
Ps: you are the best
I once installed an ATI RAGE VR card in my own Gateway with Win98. Turns out the ATI integrated graphics on the motherboard were better than the card, so the card returned to my generic WinMe PC to supplant the poor Intel graphics.
Edited Title : Actually Installing a GPU in the 50$ Windows Vista PC
21:58 Windows Aero = Windows error if you have captions enabled. ;-)
As for having a component in a case that doesn’t match the color (your DVD drive initially), heck, I put a 5¼" floppy drive into my Pentium 3 back in the day, not caring that it was way out of place (and color) for its era. The original intent was that I had hoped for a way to make diskette images for my 8-bit computers like Commodore 64 and Atari 800, but ended up abandoning the idea when I couldn’t find any info online 2 decades ago to do so.
Task: Swap CD drive with DVD drive. Problem: Don't like black DVD drive in beige case.
Solution: Realize that you have an (almost) exact copy of this drive in beige, and install that one instead
Michael MJD: Grabbed beige drive and swapped panels with black DVD drive.
I was able to get Xubuntu 18.04 working on my Athlon XP machine, I was impressed it could run something that new.(although Firefox kept crashing on it)
i think firefox wants sse2 and the athlon xp doesnt have it
@@jedsiecz it’s possible. Don’t remember the version of it, but it could be that.
>pentium III
>512mb AGP GPU
Yeah that sounds about like most Windows Vista machines when the OS first rolled out.
I love the editing
Thank you!
Win98 TOS, If I remember correctly, states you don't own those disks, manual or box it all came in. The MSRP of $109 only gave you the rights to install the software on one system. If at anytime Microsoft wanted those disks, manual or box it all came in, back all they had to do was ask and by law you had to return it to them. lol
I never understood those setup menus: Man, you are installing the GRAPHICS card on the machine, can't you design something that actually won't look like ass at 16 colours 640x480? Because I don't think anyone is going to see how the menu actually looks with working graphics.
Had it worse tho, my first cd-rom drive arrived with drivers on a bloody CD!. Had to wait for the summer holidays to end for a friend with a cdrom drive to arrive back and transfer the drivers to a floppy disk at his home. Top notch design there! (and yeah, they used a cdrom, which was the more expensive format to fit something like 60kb of drivers)
The $5 98 PC can run Aero with a working GPU, yet "Vista Ready" computers couldn't even run the OS to begin with.
This $5 PC has been a hilariously effective investment
3:16 The virus protection is 23 YEARS old????
How I got that number:
7700÷7 = 1100 (To get weeks from days)
1100÷4 = 275 (To get months from weeks)
275÷12 = 22.916666667 (To get years from months)
I'm expecting a druaga1 reference in the next video with the ssd.
Pretty cool. I just installed a 5200 card in my Dell XPS T450 for use with windows 98.
"we'll see if it can handle Windows Aero"
Vista's requirements: 1gb ram
Computer's ram: 512mb🗿
Michael please install the most beautiful and stabled Microsoft OS ever released, to enjoy it with the GPU and drivers installed. I'm talking about Windows 2000 of course!
I like Windows Vista with this card and 512mb Ram!!!! I like your video!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I like Windows Vista with this card and 512mb Ram!!!! I like your video!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
14:24 Why did you remove the cover when both of them were dvd rom?
I would like to see a SSD upgrade on the Windows 98 PC!
Part of me wants to reinstall vista in my old crap DDR2 AMD machine, and find a GPU from the time for it :P
I think that would be fun
listening to the intro music, i can only think dankpods
That is beautiful! Hopefully we'll see more upgrade videos from you. 👍👍👍
I was waiting for this
same
I'm installing VMware to emulate windows 1.0 in my Vista Laptop with 512megabytes of ram and 64 megabytes video card. I've said everything.
Maybe you can try multi booting (atleast try) all of the nt versions of windows? Starting from 3.50/3.51 and ending on windows 7
Apple : Meh...
To this day I've always though Vista was the best Looking version of Windows. It was just beautiful!
I have always played around with custom win7 themes and making it look like vista was better
I did not know that there were 2 versions of Windows XP 64-bit. I only know that both of them are kinda crap.
yup,only endermanch uses it in a vm
Technically 3 versions. 64-Bit Edition 2002 was the original for Itanium, then in 2003 a new version was released based on NT 5.2, and then a new version in 2005 based on NT 5.2 for AMD64 cpus.
Wait, if you HAD a DVD driver WITH a white front plate in the first place, why not use it instead of using the black one in the first place? 💀
Because he said it was gonna die
I wish they’d put aero in win 10/11
Fitting that I just upgraded the gpu in my own win98 machine. From a gefore2 mx 200 to a ATI 7500. Got the drivers from Phil’s Computer lab, great resource. Glad you got yours working finally
Now upload your RUclips videos through that machine.
I would love a video about the 64-bit Edition and Professional x64 Edition. I really wanna know more about development and also naming reasons.
Man, I love this stuff..brings back so much. My first laptop was a.. well.. kinda forgot the manufacturer. It was a odd ball I bought off a friend of mine... I remember it had a single core Intel Celeron M, 512MB DDR2 RAM, and S3 Graphics! It came with Windows XP installed.. I later upgraded it to Vista to find it didn't look as nice as other computers with Vista or 7 installed with the transparency and all.. the 64MB of VRam just couldn't do it. Tried registry edits and everything to no avail. Crazy stuff.. but I did learn that Ubuntu will allow transparency on ANYTHING... but this "Extended Life Linux" OS I got ahold of that claimed to be able to make any old computer carry out day to day functions really made the most of that system.. still wasn't enough for the larger Halo:CE maps. Haha