Slight correction on the Ganon first appearance stuff. Ganon in Beast Form did appear in a Four Swords game, but it was Adventures, in the Child Timeline. Most of Beast Ganon's other appearances are the Downfall Timeline. So in theory Echoes of Wisdom could take place at the End of the Child Timeline or somewhere in the Downfall Timeline, likely sometime after the Oracle Games
The thing about the Child Timeline however is that Ganon was imprisoned in the Four Sword, it has to be a logical Explaination as for why he is not sealed since the Sword was even guarded by a Protective Barrier by the Maidens
Nulls obviously predates the Demise since it was there before the creation of Hyrule. Also,, I think that the Demise is some kind of "child" from Null since Skyward Sword it was said that the Demise emerged from the underground. My theory is thst the Ganon that we defeat at the start of the game is actually an echoe from Ganon (that was previously defeated in that timeline) and Null used it to manifest in the physical world. Remember that Ganon is an encarnation of the Demise after all.
I dont think Null changes anything drastically, just adds an element to the story of Hyrule's creation that was previously unknown. If we really think about it Null is technically not evil, he merely exists as a deity of nothingness. He doesn't want the power of the Triforce for himself. He just wants to use the Prime Energy to return everything to the nothingness he once enjoyed. Null basically just wants to destroy the world because he likes nothingness. The difference is that the Demon King Demise invaded Hyrule in order to obtain the triforce for himself. He's not trying to destroy the world, he's trying to conquer it. They have different goals which implies they are different entities 😌🙏
Demise is Null’s avatar who came from a fissure in the earth where Null is imprisoned. This means that ganon’s recreation is to return the world to nothing and is why Null has an echo of ganon
I disagree. Demise wanted the power of the Triforce to take over the world. Null wants it just so he can destroy everything (return it to nothingness) two separate goals, which would mean two different beings entirely. Null is just doing what's in its nature. Demise has a dark desire to take over the world and corrupt it with his evil. And by default that's also Ganon/Ganondorf's goal. Two villains, two different missions
The thumbnail has been updated based on recent comments. The Great Deku tree was in fact shown in Nintendo's overview trailer so it is not a spoiler. However the images have been updated to give away even less info.
I think it's right after skyward sword turned into myth so the second game on the timeline but idk the Zelda timeline doesn't really matter just believe the timeline you think is the most fun cause that's what games are meant to be
Big thumbnail L Seeing Zelda link reunited with the triforce is a spoiler to any Zelda fan I know to you it means nothing but it’s a Beautiful moment spoiled for me
I find it hilarious that random people on the internet believe they have the authority over someone to change a thumbnail because it bothers them. Spoilers are inevitable, given knowledge varies from person to person; some may have watched all the trailers, while others have not, so at the end of the day, just suck it up and deal with it. An unrealistic solution would be to avoid the internet all together and just play the game, thus avoiding any spoilers, but unfortunately, we live in reality and it’s obvious some people can’t handle scrolling past a thumbnail showing the great deku tree.
Why are ppl convinced that Null and Demise have to be connected? Why can't they be two different villains? Null is obviously a being that existed before the existence of the planet. But Null didnt crave power. Null didnt want to conquer. All Null wanted was nothingness. Demise/Ganon actually want power. They want to control the world. Their goal is completely different from Null's. Demise/Ganon - Wants to the Triforce to be all powerful and control the world, shaping it with his dark desires. He wants power Null -- wants the Triforce to destroy everything so that he can have his nothingness. He wants death. Separate goals means Separate characters 👍
Thumbnail really wasn’t cool. Let people play the game for themselves before you go ahead and put the ending scene in the thumbnail. The game hasn’t even been out a week. People have work and school. Not everyone can finish this game in 2-3 days.
Lmao. Spoilers in the fucking thumbnail. Good job. Before you reply and ask, its the Deku Tree and both Link and Zelda in the actual end sequence. Thankfully ive already completed the game, but I had NO IDEA the Deku tree was going to be in the game. Also, just showing the ending sequence is a complete braindead thing to show in the thumbnail.
One correction about the info in this video is that Ganon does not actually appear in The Legend of Zelda Four Swords, his first canonical appearance is in Ocarina of Time.
can null mutated maybe null found a way to created life like entities does dark purple goo monsters and it finds new ways to escape and maybe and it use energy mix with its chaos to created does monsters and on null's body when absorb the tri force shard monster the energy color maybe it created new type of energy and wants revenge again now able created that red energy now when remove the shard from it, now doesn't need it to created that red energy.
I rather think Null cannot create Life itself, rather it has the capability of mimicing the Tris, though Null can only make an Echo of something he knows just like them... Thus Null basically has been contained despite everything, and only through Ganon Null actually was able to aproach that Problem he was facing.
Hey there Landon may I suggest something? No need to agree but if you want a "story explained" video to do well in numbers, wouldn't it be best to give or take about a week or 2 to release the vid? I feel like many many ppl wouldn't dare to touch a spoiler packed video at the moment.
I personally called the evil copies Shadows because it seems more fitting with them showing up as dark blobs while the echoes Zelda creates show up in a small flash of light.
I don't think Null is permanent dead since the Goddess them selves couldn't Kill it only sea it away, I think you just set back Null since based on the amount of tries shown at the end Null has spent along time trying to break through the world. Then again it depends whether or not Nintendo tries to use Null in future games.
The reason the Goddesses couldnt kill him was simply because the Infinite Power was at the time seperated within all three of them - each has just 1/3 of Omnipotence - and after they United it into the Triforce it was automatically designed to be only used by People that were not born as Kami They were Kami(=deities), thus they couldnt use the infinite power - at least not to full extend, they just used it to create too much for null to errase Link and Zelda however were mortals, thus they could kill Null for good with the Infinite power that Null tried to seek out. Besides I think Nintendo wont return to Null and use him as a Permament Villain any time soon, they gave Demise and others like Zant, Bellum, Malladus and so on the same Treatment of a One Time Villain. Giving Null a Different Treatment would be a big suprise.
@@Chris-gx1ei can null mimic tri power but now its revenge have not real hate but annoyed and inrage and wants revenge and now make dark echos and use them and now the 3 goddesses prevent null from eating tris and now go to prevented from it eating tris. now going to steal any power source can absorb and maybe it can absorb the power of might energy now?
I don’t mean to say the lore of this game is stupid, but imo it just doesn’t make sense for a top down “not really mainline” (I say this as the game was originally meant to be a dungeon maker game) to have such deep lore and it also being so important to mainline TLOZ. Especially bc demise is such a badass evil and him being the first, and then to have a goofy ahh looking boss which just seems like it’s there just to be a final boss for this game. Idk let me know what you guys think, it just feels out of place for this game to have such an important lore aspect in the amazing/beautiful lore of TLOZ.
There is so many plot holes in this story that I agree it's not a very thought out over arching story. I think alot of people need to really start realizing that these games don't have any continuity to them at all. They are just their own separate stories. They are not set thousands or millions of years from each other in the past or in the future or a different timeline. it is just it's own story. I mean we have heard about the goddess creation of the world about 7 times now, and it's always different, which means they don't really have a beginning. I mean, eiji even said they don't really have a timeline. It was just thrown together for the fans. Zelda is my favorite game series but man, would I kill for a solid 3D trilogy that all ran together and built up over time from game 1 and ended with a 3rd game.
@@bluethesportsgamer7795 I don't remember Aonuma saying they don't have one. He only said he doesnt connect Botw to the remaining Games because he doesnt want to limit himself through the plot
Slight correction on the Ganon first appearance stuff.
Ganon in Beast Form did appear in a Four Swords game, but it was Adventures, in the Child Timeline. Most of Beast Ganon's other appearances are the Downfall Timeline.
So in theory Echoes of Wisdom could take place at the End of the Child Timeline or somewhere in the Downfall Timeline, likely sometime after the Oracle Games
The thing about the Child Timeline however is that Ganon was imprisoned in the Four Sword, it has to be a logical Explaination as for why he is not sealed since the Sword was even guarded by a Protective Barrier by the Maidens
Nulls obviously predates the Demise since it was there before the creation of Hyrule. Also,, I think that the Demise is some kind of "child" from Null since Skyward Sword it was said that the Demise emerged from the underground. My theory is thst the Ganon that we defeat at the start of the game is actually an echoe from Ganon (that was previously defeated in that timeline) and Null used it to manifest in the physical world. Remember that Ganon is an encarnation of the Demise after all.
I dont think Null changes anything drastically, just adds an element to the story of Hyrule's creation that was previously unknown. If we really think about it Null is technically not evil, he merely exists as a deity of nothingness. He doesn't want the power of the Triforce for himself. He just wants to use the Prime Energy to return everything to the nothingness he once enjoyed. Null basically just wants to destroy the world because he likes nothingness. The difference is that the Demon King Demise invaded Hyrule in order to obtain the triforce for himself. He's not trying to destroy the world, he's trying to conquer it. They have different goals which implies they are different entities 😌🙏
Demise is Null’s avatar who came from a fissure in the earth where Null is imprisoned. This means that ganon’s recreation is to return the world to nothing and is why Null has an echo of ganon
I disagree. Demise wanted the power of the Triforce to take over the world. Null wants it just so he can destroy everything (return it to nothingness) two separate goals, which would mean two different beings entirely. Null is just doing what's in its nature. Demise has a dark desire to take over the world and corrupt it with his evil. And by default that's also Ganon/Ganondorf's goal.
Two villains, two different missions
EoW takes place centuries after Triforce Heroes, but before LoZ (NES).
Its crazy no one is watching this clearly because of the spoilers
ya lol
I was thinking that and clicked anyway I will be still buying it 😅
Yeah
The thumbnail has been updated based on recent comments. The Great Deku tree was in fact shown in Nintendo's overview trailer so it is not a spoiler. However the images have been updated to give away even less info.
This explains a lot! Thank you for the info!😊
This is a cool video
You literally commented 1 minute after it was posted you didn’t even watch it
I think it's right after skyward sword turned into myth so the second game on the timeline but idk the Zelda timeline doesn't really matter just believe the timeline you think is the most fun cause that's what games are meant to be
Big thumbnail L
Seeing Zelda link reunited with the triforce is a spoiler to any Zelda fan
I know to you it means nothing but it’s a Beautiful moment spoiled for me
Please remove the spoilers from the thumbnail… I didn’t want to see the ending while scrolling through youtube :(
Instant unsubscribe for me.
What spoilers?
@@Nin10doland I’m assuming that the right side of the thumbnail is from the end of the game. It’s not a huge deal but I didn’t want to see that yet…
i think he meant the deku tree and the second image with Link
Deku tree is in trailer, Zelda and link is just Zelda and link
I find it hilarious that random people on the internet believe they have the authority over someone to change a thumbnail because it bothers them. Spoilers are inevitable, given knowledge varies from person to person; some may have watched all the trailers, while others have not, so at the end of the day, just suck it up and deal with it. An unrealistic solution would be to avoid the internet all together and just play the game, thus avoiding any spoilers, but unfortunately, we live in reality and it’s obvious some people can’t handle scrolling past a thumbnail showing the great deku tree.
Why are ppl convinced that Null and Demise have to be connected? Why can't they be two different villains? Null is obviously a being that existed before the existence of the planet. But Null didnt crave power. Null didnt want to conquer. All Null wanted was nothingness. Demise/Ganon actually want power. They want to control the world. Their goal is completely different from Null's.
Demise/Ganon - Wants to the Triforce to be all powerful and control the world, shaping it with his dark desires. He wants power
Null -- wants the Triforce to destroy everything so that he can have his nothingness. He wants death.
Separate goals means Separate characters 👍
Thumbnail really wasn’t cool. Let people play the game for themselves before you go ahead and put the ending scene in the thumbnail. The game hasn’t even been out a week. People have work and school. Not everyone can finish this game in 2-3 days.
It’s link and Zelda …. What is it spoilingv
No one wants to see images or videos of the end scenes. It takes away from the experience of playing it for yourself.
@@gingerssistersanswer the question.
a deal's a deal, buddy
I’m here first
Nope
5:57 he is playing the game on super smash bros melee.
Lmao. Spoilers in the fucking thumbnail. Good job.
Before you reply and ask, its the Deku Tree and both Link and Zelda in the actual end sequence.
Thankfully ive already completed the game, but I had NO IDEA the Deku tree was going to be in the game. Also, just showing the ending sequence is a complete braindead thing to show in the thumbnail.
The deku tree was shown in one of the first trailers
One correction about the info in this video is that Ganon does not actually appear in The Legend of Zelda Four Swords, his first canonical appearance is in Ocarina of Time.
Ganondorf, you mean?
Ganondorf appears in Four Swords Adventures, but this is a distant Sequel to original Four Swords that takes now place after Twilight Princess
Gohma is the boss of Faron Temple.
can null mutated maybe null found a way to created life like entities does dark purple goo monsters and it finds new ways to escape and maybe and it use energy mix with its chaos to created does monsters and on null's body when absorb the tri force shard monster the energy color maybe it created new type of energy and wants revenge again now able created that red energy now when remove the shard from it, now doesn't need it to created that red energy.
I rather think Null cannot create Life itself, rather it has the capability of mimicing the Tris, though Null can only make an Echo of something he knows just like them...
Thus Null basically has been contained despite everything, and only through Ganon Null actually was able to aproach that Problem he was facing.
@@Chris-gx1ei but his powers mutated aka evo new abilities
6:38 that is the last dungeon I did.
Hey there Landon may I suggest something? No need to agree but if you want a "story explained" video to do well in numbers, wouldn't it be best to give or take about a week or 2 to release the vid?
I feel like many many ppl wouldn't dare to touch a spoiler packed video at the moment.
I’m here first
5:18 We’re getting hydrated with this mission. 🥤 Also, 8:51 FNF fans when they hear “demise”: 👀
I personally called the evil copies Shadows because it seems more fitting with them showing up as dark blobs while the echoes Zelda creates show up in a small flash of light.
Day 22 of asking Nin10doland to play ember knights.
It stayed there so I got rid of it
Why Are You Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeating Your Self
It stayed there so I got rid of it
Why Are You Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeating Your Self
I don't think Null is permanent dead since the Goddess them selves couldn't Kill it only sea it away, I think you just set back Null since based on the amount of tries shown at the end Null has spent along time trying to break through the world. Then again it depends whether or not Nintendo tries to use Null in future games.
The reason the Goddesses couldnt kill him was simply because the Infinite Power was at the time seperated within all three of them - each has just 1/3 of Omnipotence - and after they United it into the Triforce it was automatically designed to be only used by People that were not born as Kami
They were Kami(=deities), thus they couldnt use the infinite power - at least not to full extend, they just used it to create too much for null to errase
Link and Zelda however were mortals, thus they could kill Null for good with the Infinite power that Null tried to seek out.
Besides I think Nintendo wont return to Null and use him as a Permament Villain any time soon, they gave Demise and others like Zant, Bellum, Malladus and so on the same Treatment of a One Time Villain.
Giving Null a Different Treatment would be a big suprise.
@@Chris-gx1ei can null mimic tri power but now its revenge have not real hate but annoyed and inrage and wants revenge and now make dark echos and use them and now the 3 goddesses prevent null from eating tris and now go to prevented from it eating tris. now going to steal any power source can absorb and maybe it can absorb the power of might energy now?
Right now im so mad that you spoilerd me
What did i spoil you with lol
@@Nin10doland null can mimic powers what if now use the echo power it copy to trick people when dark echos thought out the later centuries
The most lovecraftian Zelda game . Lol
here
pp
why, the game hasn’t even been out for a week
I don’t mean to say the lore of this game is stupid, but imo it just doesn’t make sense for a top down “not really mainline” (I say this as the game was originally meant to be a dungeon maker game) to have such deep lore and it also being so important to mainline TLOZ. Especially bc demise is such a badass evil and him being the first, and then to have a goofy ahh looking boss which just seems like it’s there just to be a final boss for this game. Idk let me know what you guys think, it just feels out of place for this game to have such an important lore aspect in the amazing/beautiful lore of TLOZ.
There is so many plot holes in this story that I agree it's not a very thought out over arching story. I think alot of people need to really start realizing that these games don't have any continuity to them at all. They are just their own separate stories. They are not set thousands or millions of years from each other in the past or in the future or a different timeline. it is just it's own story. I mean we have heard about the goddess creation of the world about 7 times now, and it's always different, which means they don't really have a beginning. I mean, eiji even said they don't really have a timeline. It was just thrown together for the fans. Zelda is my favorite game series but man, would I kill for a solid 3D trilogy that all ran together and built up over time from game 1 and ended with a 3rd game.
@@bluethesportsgamer7795
I don't remember Aonuma saying they don't have one.
He only said he doesnt connect Botw to the remaining Games because he doesnt want to limit himself through the plot
@@bluethesportsgamer7795 IVE BEEN WANTING THIS FOR SO LONG IM GLAD SOMOME ELSE SAID IT 💗
Demise is Null’s avatar, who sprang from a fissure(rift) and now we know how he wishes to recreate creation, by returning it to zero.