It's hard to know that the SIM we like is not a simulator but a Simcade, but the important thing is to have fun. The AMS2 is almost a competitor to the GT7
@@tonyescottobeneAMS2 is waaaay cheaper and waaay more accessible. Jump in and drive. In Iracing Inhave to practice whole week to be able to get competitive on saturday and sunday😂
@@delzimar don't let someone else define what you play, just play what you enjoy. I'd put AMS2 several steps above the "simcades" but there is nothing wrong with them either, some of the most skilled sim racers in the world play a LOT of GT7.
I am absolutely loving AMS2 in VR. It took a while to get it running and looking right, but now it is just amazing. The sounds and vehicle options are incredible. Nurburgring looks so good in VR as well. Definitely offers something different to iRacing, and I love them both.
@@Chnkp@Chnkp So at default settings the game ran TERRIBLY in VR. I almost refunded the game. I've tried to get OpenXR working but it was too much faff. So I'm now running in Oculus VR with the Oculus Debug Tool running as well. I'm happy to share my settings with you. I'm on a 4070 Ti Super with 7800X3d.
@@ScarySquirrel im using a 5700x3d and 4070ti super.. seemed ok with just a quick tweak but only tested offline with ten cars.. i am using open xr with virtual desktop though on a pico 4.. will have to test on a lfm practice server as soon as i get a min but already looks great coming from AC which looked good to but could never get rid of the shimmering completely
Before LFM we had RCO (Race Craft Online) you should have a look at them but they arent as well known as LFM, they have gave me many decent races before and they deserve some love!
I made it, that was me grimskii in the video, unfortunately I suffered issues with the ghost car and it totalled my race. Other than that LFM coming to ams is amazing really enjoyed it so far.
I have been having a ton of fun with the 1.6 update. I have not raced online for a couple years now, I will have to signup for LFM and give it a try. Racing the LMP2 cars at Road Atlanta in Vr is the most fun sim racing I have done in years.
RE: the camera head movement; most people I know have that set all the way down to zero - and have "Legacy Head movement" set to 1. Much better, much less bouncier
Fun fact Dave the safety car is scored as if it were racing with you guys so when it does come out it’s almost always xyz laps down on all timing and scoring screens
I’m loving AMS2. For me AMS2 feels more natural to how you’d expect a car to behave, and it might come down to skill which I won’t deny but with ACC I just couldn’t find the limit compared to AMS2. ACC felt unnecessarily difficult, and unfortunately some gauge difficulty with realism which isn’t always the case and of course, each to their own, whatever you find enjoyable. Great video though, I hope to see more AMS content.
the invisible car thing is a bug. there is a setting for reducing the number of visible cars on track, I think it's set to 12 or 16 by default but you want to set it to OFF there are a few other bugs with 1.6; the TC/ABS modes can get set to OFF when starting a session and sometimes the session fails to progress until the host leaves
@brooksy2622 🤷♂️ they're working with an engine that isn't theirs. They're re-engineering it which is already a feat of its own. What I'm not excusing is how LONG it's taken them to fix things.
Yea, that was a weird ghost car thing that happened. Before this last update you would see that happening once the sun went down, but it was more like teh shadows were baked onto the track and you wouldnt collide with anything. I had heard the issue had finally been resolved, so I am not sure if this is related to that, or the game just not rendering that one car properly... super confusing.
People get obssessed by the "simcade" label as if its a bad thing. Simcade is a design choice which Reiza haven't made. IMO it's a sim, but on the more approachable side of things compared to iRacing/LMU. I think that's a great thing. We need more sims like that to get new people in.
@@HDRGamingHub broken to you maybe, but they feel like they make sense to me. Everything I do in other sims ( and I've played all the modern ones ) works the same in AMS2, in 1.6 more than ever. There are slight differences, but I can hop from one to another and be roughly at the same pace within 10 laps. But I'm sure you are a car physics expert so you do you and go play whatever makes you happy.
@@mikecroshaw9233 Then why every AMS2 update has been said it fixed the physics in the game and is game changer if was nothing wrong with the physics ?! 😄
@@HDRGamingHub why don’t you define broken, because that is very relative and narrow minded statement. Sims like iRacing and AC present that knife edge tire model, which may very well be closer to reality. But guess what? This isn’t reality - this is a video game. Unless you’re really hell bent on simulating exactly how a car drives in reality, Reiza’s decision to build their tire model the way they did provides a balance between simulating reality and accessibility. Rather than calling something broken, think harder about the ramifications of both approaches and evaluate what the outcomes will be. I’m both an AC and AMS2 driver and I understand both styles and appreciate each sim respectively for their own style.
Full Corse Yellow are cool. That of the ghost car is a bug to fix. It's a car that for some reasons only showed the shadow. It happened to me during qualy a couple of times, you see all the other car's shadow, but in such case you drive through them. I'm really enjoying driving AMS2 these days. I really enjoyed your driving too. You are missing the HUD with time to end, position in class and overall...
Hey Dave, I also drive an Invicta Base with the Forte steering wheel. Can you tell me how you set the settings in Automobilista 2? I get on the ground or the curbs, violent blows on the bike, so it's not really fun to ride.
I was in this lobby but spun out like the leader did Same spot same lap. Couldnt do anything bout it because ffb wasnt telling me shit. Couldnt feel the rear getting loose
I think it is the Precision Sim Engineering Pro Switch Panel. If you search his other vids you'll find one dedicated to its setup and use. It looks to be a pretty impressive bit of kit.
Dave, compared to Raceroom, where would you put AMS2 currently? Would it be above Raceroom, closer to the sim end of the spectrum, or would it be below Raceroom, closer to a simcade?
GT3s are not the best in AMS2 in all honesty, but the new LMP2 for example and other high downforce cars drive much more nicely. Would love to see you react on how those drive :)
Friend of mine suggested default settings on GT3s are not helping, try reducing camber a bit ( Front camber -4.0 Rear camber -3.5 for example on the porker ).
I'd just like to know g. pants first name. gimme? Or maybe simply g. Pants. Which would make sense if his girlfriend's name is g. String. Confusing yes. But good race, good win.
@ lol a licence is a legal document. When ai mean hard I mean intuitive, you don’t need to drive a go kart. You can go anywhere and drive it as fast as you can. Intuitive not hard, sims should be like that. But yes most people, car enthusiasts would drive a car without a legal document if that was legal.
Cars are not necessarily hard to drive, but taking them to the limit with changing conditions is not easy. AMS2 is great, I really enjoy it but it’s much easier to drive than any other sim. That’s not a criticism, just an observation.
Yeah, I'm completely confused. Was looking forward to it but, it seems very chaotic and I'm not really exited about the simcade characteristics. What's the frequency of the races?
Been waiting for you to give AMS2 another go after the update, the ghost thing is a longstanding bug. Among many others ;) Wait till you see the Hover Cars.
@@steffenruch8835 In AMS2 online races, sometimes after a pitstop the cars come out of the pits floating above the track, it's nothing to do with ping.
I don’t wanna be in a sim that has a ghost in the machine!!! I think the ghost affected Jimbo because I don’t ever remember him being this quiet…. Maybe it spooked him.
do any of them players know how to race cos when there was a lap down they certainly didnt know how to move over and let the faster racers through they just blocked ya all the time.
@@ColinDiesThe way the car handles, it still has that slipperiness which is apparent in Project Cars 2. With the 1.6 update, it is much better than before, though.
LFM and 1.6 has completly changed AMS2. Its great fun
There is no sim like real life. Every sim has pros and cons. Im enjoying AMS2 and Iracing.
It's hard to know that the SIM we like is not a simulator but a Simcade, but the important thing is to have fun. The AMS2 is almost a competitor to the GT7
Lol what ? @delzimar
If don’t mind me asking - which do you prefer AMS2 or iracing?
I’m deeply considering which of the two will be best to explore
@@tonyescottobeneAMS2 is waaaay cheaper and waaay more accessible. Jump in and drive. In Iracing Inhave to practice whole week to be able to get competitive on saturday and sunday😂
@@delzimar don't let someone else define what you play, just play what you enjoy. I'd put AMS2 several steps above the "simcades" but there is nothing wrong with them either, some of the most skilled sim racers in the world play a LOT of GT7.
I am absolutely loving AMS2 in VR. It took a while to get it running and looking right, but now it is just amazing. The sounds and vehicle options are incredible. Nurburgring looks so good in VR as well. Definitely offers something different to iRacing, and I love them both.
I play exclusively iRacing in VR.
I’ve tried Ams2 but it was not running smoothly.
How do you run it? Open XR? Or steam vr ?
@@Chnkp@Chnkp So at default settings the game ran TERRIBLY in VR. I almost refunded the game. I've tried to get OpenXR working but it was too much faff. So I'm now running in Oculus VR with the Oculus Debug Tool running as well. I'm happy to share my settings with you. I'm on a 4070 Ti Super with 7800X3d.
I have a HP reverb g2.
People praise this game on VR. Imma dig into it a little there must be a way.
13600/3090 here
@@Chnkp Ah ok, I'm on a Quest 3 so most of my stuff is focussed around that.
@@ScarySquirrel im using a 5700x3d and 4070ti super.. seemed ok with just a quick tweak but only tested offline with ten cars.. i am using open xr with virtual desktop though on a pico 4.. will have to test on a lfm practice server as soon as i get a min but already looks great coming from AC which looked good to but could never get rid of the shimmering completely
Oh man great to see you racing in AMS2. You seem to have a great handle on the physics too.
More please!
Before LFM we had RCO (Race Craft Online) you should have a look at them but they arent as well known as LFM, they have gave me many decent races before and they deserve some love!
Gotta love spending my morning with Dave
'What is that blob thing' said my wife to me
“That guy’s off like a scolded cat” did I hear that! Love it!
"scalded" - as in, burnt by hot water, but yeah you heard it right
@@viperion_nz "Scolded" - as in, told off by an authority figure, so yeah he spelt it right.
@@highestsettings No, scalded. Do a google search for "like a scolded cat" and see what you get
Make sure in your settings for Visible cars that it is turned off for the time being. That is a recommendation from Reiza while they sort out this bug
They sorted it out. Hotfix was released yesterday
I like it. That's what counts. Almost 950hrs so far. VR is amazing.
I made it, that was me grimskii in the video, unfortunately I suffered issues with the ghost car and it totalled my race. Other than that LFM coming to ams is amazing really enjoyed it so far.
Lol, was it a corvette you ran in to the back of? If so that was me 😂
what did you drive and what was your name in-game?
I have been having a ton of fun with the 1.6 update. I have not raced online for a couple years now, I will have to signup for LFM and give it a try. Racing the LMP2 cars at Road Atlanta in Vr is the most fun sim racing I have done in years.
RE: the camera head movement; most people I know have that set all the way down to zero - and have "Legacy Head movement" set to 1. Much better, much less bouncier
Fun fact Dave the safety car is scored as if it were racing with you guys so when it does come out it’s almost always xyz laps down on all timing and scoring screens
the blob is a glitch they know about. It's the shadow of a car that has disconnected
Doesn't sound right as he was clearly trying to not hit Dave. More like another driver who simply wouldn't be fully rendered.
I’m loving AMS2. For me AMS2 feels more natural to how you’d expect a car to behave, and it might come down to skill which I won’t deny but with ACC I just couldn’t find the limit compared to AMS2.
ACC felt unnecessarily difficult, and unfortunately some gauge difficulty with realism which isn’t always the case and of course, each to their own, whatever you find enjoyable.
Great video though, I hope to see more AMS content.
the invisible car thing is a bug. there is a setting for reducing the number of visible cars on track, I think it's set to 12 or 16 by default but you want to set it to OFF
there are a few other bugs with 1.6; the TC/ABS modes can get set to OFF when starting a session and sometimes the session fails to progress until the host leaves
They actually JUST fixed the invisible cars in the patch they released 30 mins ago :)
And some of these were PC2 bugs!
Progress….
@brooksy2622 🤷♂️ they're working with an engine that isn't theirs. They're re-engineering it which is already a feat of its own. What I'm not excusing is how LONG it's taken them to fix things.
@@noahz2275 yeah saw that! though they've said they fixed other bugs and they've come back with a vengeance before so I'm still wary
@1336Studios definitely. I still give Reiza HUGE props though. Really makes you wonder how much spaghetti code is really behind the scenes!
Nice Race , They already fixed the ghost car
Great video! Please do a race in Group A at Cascais. Really fun!
Just a heads up, they fixed the ghost issue last night
Yea, that was a weird ghost car thing that happened. Before this last update you would see that happening once the sun went down, but it was more like teh shadows were baked onto the track and you wouldnt collide with anything. I had heard the issue had finally been resolved, so I am not sure if this is related to that, or the game just not rendering that one car properly... super confusing.
Ive been playing Iracing and AMS2 i really enjoy them both its nice that LFM have got racing on AMS2
Hi Dave, when you have invisible cars, you need to change the limitmaxcount cars to off
People get obssessed by the "simcade" label as if its a bad thing. Simcade is a design choice which Reiza haven't made. IMO it's a sim, but on the more approachable side of things compared to iRacing/LMU. I think that's a great thing. We need more sims like that to get new people in.
Is a sim with broken physics . Is better with the 1.6 but still not where it should be.
Completely agree 👍
@@HDRGamingHub broken to you maybe, but they feel like they make sense to me. Everything I do in other sims ( and I've played all the modern ones ) works the same in AMS2, in 1.6 more than ever. There are slight differences, but I can hop from one to another and be roughly at the same pace within 10 laps. But I'm sure you are a car physics expert so you do you and go play whatever makes you happy.
@@mikecroshaw9233 Then why every AMS2 update has been said it fixed the physics in the game and is game changer if was nothing wrong with the physics ?! 😄
@@HDRGamingHub why don’t you define broken, because that is very relative and narrow minded statement. Sims like iRacing and AC present that knife edge tire model, which may very well be closer to reality. But guess what? This isn’t reality - this is a video game. Unless you’re really hell bent on simulating exactly how a car drives in reality, Reiza’s decision to build their tire model the way they did provides a balance between simulating reality and accessibility. Rather than calling something broken, think harder about the ramifications of both approaches and evaluate what the outcomes will be. I’m both an AC and AMS2 driver and I understand both styles and appreciate each sim respectively for their own style.
Full yallow course great idea
He took off like a scalded cat. Then came the awkward silence after he span off😂😂😂
“We won’t have a big train coming through” that’s what she said!!!
Wish I could upload a Michael Scott meme LOL
Full Corse Yellow are cool. That of the ghost car is a bug to fix. It's a car that for some reasons only showed the shadow. It happened to me during qualy a couple of times, you see all the other car's shadow, but in such case you drive through them.
I'm really enjoying driving AMS2 these days.
I really enjoyed your driving too.
You are missing the HUD with time to end, position in class and overall...
7:31 it is, the Audi and lambo massive quick on the straights
Ive really been enjoying the game. Im just trying it starting with the 1.6 up date and have been having a blast
Never seen such weird invisible cars in AMS before....🤔 For your first LFM race in AMS quite impressive.
Most fun cars for me is group c lemans cars, porsche and sauber 9c is insanly fun!
I've heard AMS2 has great VR support.
The king of VR
@@PITAH1 have they sorted out the HUD in VR yet? I could never get custom HUD placement to work
Is there a list of cars that have the 1.6 update. The classic forumla cars still drive on steering only. Great to hear Raceblabs coming.
Hey that's my main sim! Crossover I didn't know I needed
Hey Dave, I was wondering if the radar is built into LFM AMS2 or something you added on yourself?
Forgive me for the beginner question. What track is this? I may have missed it or it wasn’t shared.
It's Road Atlanta 😁
Hey Dave, love ur content! Quick question, seems like LFM multiplayer on AMS2 is similar to simgrid races for consoles on ACC, is basically the same?
Can u share with us your chrewchief setup?
Do you mind sharing your asetek invicta profiles for iRacing and AMS2 and any other sim you use with it?
AMS is great
keep up with the great videos
Hey Dave, I also drive an Invicta Base with the Forte steering wheel.
Can you tell me how you set the settings in Automobilista 2?
I get on the ground or the curbs, violent blows on the bike, so it's not really fun to ride.
Hahaha what's that blob? Funny AF. It's an AMS2 update glitch. We had some brake lights left on the start line a couple of days ago. Bizarre...
Do you need all the DLC or just the base game. It's a small fortune with all the DLC.
I was in this lobby but spun out like the leader did
Same spot same lap.
Couldnt do anything bout it because ffb wasnt telling me shit.
Couldnt feel the rear getting loose
its the cursed ghost car of road atlanta
The experience is so different vs iracing. The cars are way harder to handle.
1:59 "Where did HE come from??" and the board displaying *ghost*vali - it was already in the script 😅
What equipment can be seen to your left, just over the Asatek Direct Drive?
I think it is the Precision Sim Engineering Pro Switch Panel. If you search his other vids you'll find one dedicated to its setup and use. It looks to be a pretty impressive bit of kit.
I just can't get on LFM? Every time i get on it never shows any races or sessions for ams2?
You need to select AMS2 on the list. There are a few to choose from 👍
I'm guessing that ghost was either a mod car or a mod livery
Do you have to alter set up much with cars in AMS2?
You can, but I didn't change anything for this race 👍
Did we figure out the ghost?
Dave, compared to Raceroom, where would you put AMS2 currently? Would it be above Raceroom, closer to the sim end of the spectrum, or would it be below Raceroom, closer to a simcade?
I would put it below Raceroom in terms of realism. 👍
U should try the lmp2 oreca
I have 2700hours in this game but never did see the ghostcar driving like this.
GT3s are not the best in AMS2 in all honesty, but the new LMP2 for example and other high downforce cars drive much more nicely. Would love to see you react on how those drive :)
Friend of mine suggested default settings on GT3s are not helping, try reducing camber a bit ( Front camber -4.0
Rear camber -3.5 for example on the porker ).
I'd just like to know g. pants first name. gimme? Or maybe simply g. Pants. Which would make sense if his girlfriend's name is g. String.
Confusing yes. But good race, good win.
Why do people think cars are hard to drive?
I agree. We shouldn't even require license to drive in real life. So simple, a new born should be allowed to drive cars.
@ lol a licence is a legal document. When ai mean hard I mean intuitive, you don’t need to drive a go kart. You can go anywhere and drive it as fast as you can. Intuitive not hard, sims should be like that. But yes most people, car enthusiasts would drive a car without a legal document if that was legal.
Cars are not necessarily hard to drive, but taking them to the limit with changing conditions is not easy. AMS2 is great, I really enjoy it but it’s much easier to drive than any other sim. That’s not a criticism, just an observation.
@ i agree
Yeah, I'm completely confused. Was looking forward to it but, it seems very chaotic and I'm not really exited about the simcade characteristics. What's the frequency of the races?
14:33 didnt know ams2 was a horror game
Are online races free?
Yes.
Been waiting for you to give AMS2 another go after the update, the ghost thing is a longstanding bug. Among many others ;) Wait till you see the Hover Cars.
Hovering cars are not a bug... more a bad ping of players.
@@steffenruch8835 In AMS2 online races, sometimes after a pitstop the cars come out of the pits floating above the track, it's nothing to do with ping.
I don’t wanna be in a sim that has a ghost in the machine!!!
I think the ghost affected Jimbo because I don’t ever remember him being this quiet…. Maybe it spooked him.
Lmp car not dispera in my list
do any of them players know how to race cos when there was a lap down they certainly didnt know how to move over and let the faster racers through they just blocked ya all the time.
I love ams2, but yeah it’s like a gt7 with more fidelity. For serious driving and pushing myself I use iRacing.
iracing is also gt7 with more fidelity lol.
I've not bothered booting this up, too busy with LMU. Your not going to be disappointed on the 10th Dave.
Easy to drive? You are not on the limit then.
Juding by your laptimes thats clear too.
Ugh.. people who cant race calling sims simcades lmao
Yes it's easy to drive. Yes it's simcade. You may think otherwise and that's fine. I said it was still fun though. 😁
@@davecamyt I'm genuinely curious... I've played iracing, AMS2, and ACC... what about AMS2 comes across simcadey?
@@ColinDies Same here, can't see how Ams2 would feel or is more arcade, especially after 1.6. Only RF2 feels more "hardcore"
Yeah and he's totally bald too...
This fuggin guy
@@ColinDiesThe way the car handles, it still has that slipperiness which is apparent in Project Cars 2. With the 1.6 update, it is much better than before, though.
The Audi GT3 and GT4's are messed up. The backend comes around and no setup changes will stop it.