Idiot Influencers - nickisnotgreen & ethanisonline
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- Idiot Influencers - nickisnotgreen & ethanisonline
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Intro - 0:00
Nick’s Many Lies & Hypocrisies - 1:17
Ethan’s Lack Of Research & Nuance - 10:27
Conspiracy To Cancel SuperMega - 19:04
Can’t Take Criticism - 31:37
Conclusion - 39:04
Outro - 43:40
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shut up crackkker
You’re a loser, but I agree with you on Ethen. Nothing else though.
You’re an unfunny loser, but I agree with you on Ethan. Nothing else though, everything else you say sucks.
It’s also funny that you were pinned but barely got any attention.
I feel bad for the lady from TikTok. She comes across as a person that doesn't know much about the internet and just wanted to post a silly video on the internet with her boyfriend. We've all done that at one point for our girl or guy and we're left alone. Hopefully this bad experience didn't scare them off the internet. Props to her for posting a video out there!
Nick has zero empathy over someone you can tell was having an emotional moment. They cover their mouths to laugh. I hate these modern, moral grandstanding hypocrites.
She has a big platform like 100s of thousands of follows
Ethan DOES look like a “where’s my hug 👉🏻👈🏻” guy!
I was kind of that guy in high school. On an unrelated note I try not to remember high school
@@hallowvenixya9215 ex-band or ex-theatre kid?
Ethan looks like someone that would defend lolicon
Ethan looks like a microwaved nerd emoji
honestly me slowly stopping watching them and seeing this vid is very comforting only from the perspective of knowing my vibe meter is in tact
literally stopped watching ethan because all he does is talk politics and the videos weren't even good. Nick used to make actual decent content but then went pull politics as well.
As a recovering Ethanisonline watcher, this comments resonates with me
Yup. At first their content wasn’t bad, Nick just covered obsucure TikTok drama. Then, I felt the videos became dragged out and something slowly became off. I found myself slowly getting bored of them. Now I can see why…
I am more left leaning myself but the way Ethan and Nick weaponized that and didn’t seem to even fully understand what they were talking about and lying to make points makes me so mad
Yeah, I largely watched them as background noise while I did other things, but eventually, they got too boring for me. I stopped altogether when their videos became too mean to the subjects they covered.
idk why u watched them at all 😂
I had to pause at 26:38 when he was talking about his best friend’s suicide. God, Nick and Ethan are always posting trigger warnings and saying they’re sensitive to people’s feelings, but they are weaponizing someone’s trauma from witnessing a suicide. And you could see on the guy’s face that he’s still heartbroken about the situation and they used his friends suicide as leverage. Disgusting.
And CSA as a shield and sword as well
I swear lex looks like nick with a wig on I can’t be the only person to see that shit😂
You aren’t
In some clips I honestly thought she was Nick with longer hair lol
No, i don't see that, why doesn't Nick look like here? You nasty
They're all punchable soy boys
Swear to God I thought I was seeing shit🤣
I have now idea how people watch ethan, there’s like way better leftist creators out there lol
there's no such thing as a 'good' leftist creator
Yeah I agree there are way better lefties, but not for Ethan's loser fan base. Friendlyjordies is too edgy for them, Dylan Burns and Lonerbox talk about too much history and geopolitics and they want to just hear cracks about Isaac Butyerfields hairline, etc etc, the demand for Ethans loser content comes from his audience also being losers
@@Ihatemyusernamemoreand i guess you dont want people to watch better creators then?
@@bogeymanbear I'm praising the people I just mentioned, I want more people to watch Friendlyjordies and Dylan Burns and Lonerbox, there's also more decent lefties I didn't name. I'm just saying, there are good lefty creators, but the people who watch Ethan are a shit audience, so they chose Ethans shit content over those other guys good content. It's an is not an ought statement
@@Ihatemyusernamemore Lonerbox is a moron, what are you talking about. He is not better than ethan, they are both terrible
Pedantry warning: Modern Art is NOT art that was created recently. That is CONTEMPORARY Art. Modern Art is an art movement from around the early 20th century. Yes, they were idiots to to name it Modern Art, but we're stuck with it.
As an artist in college for art, in Chicago, I wanna put Ethan in a time-out. Plenty of artists just make shit for the sake of making, nothing political about it.
the idea that everything is political comes not from the idea that everyone who creates does it with the intent purpose of being political, but that the ideas one chooses to share, represent, and and spread throughout the world will be present in one's work, making it a reflection of that person's perception of the world. I don't like ethan, but i believe that it is true that one's own personal morals and sensibilities that they hold to be true or inherent will show in their work.
@@swollenapocrypha I agree, it's really frustrating that people don't get that idea and think it means everything is political propaganda 🤦🏽♀️
@swollenapocrypha I disagree with that take entirely. A work does not necessarily reflect the perspective of the artist, and even if it did that can't always be extrapolated into politics. That's just an excuse for twisting art around political beliefs. If you set out to interpret art politically you can convince yourself that any piece means any thing. Whether you believe interpreting art through a political lense and drawing whatever conclusions you want is legitimate is up to you, but that is far from objective fact, and calling someone an idiot for disagreeing is ridiculous.
Problem is people mix up politics with sharing your thoughts and views on the world or even themes through your art not all thoughts and views need to be through the political lens
nick psychotically laughing at that lady's sorrow is downright sickening, I don't think I can finish, I don't wanna get too angry and lose my composure.
im so sorry but this is the corniest shit I've ever hear someone say its literally giving "im done being mr nice guy" like please😭😭
@@vodkakoo I can imagine Drake saying that
I feel Nick should be physically reprimanded for his actions.
@@josephlinden1630 violence doesn't solve anything.
Their reaction shows how stuck up they are. I'm kinda new to Nickisnotgreen but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was heartless asf
wild that nick’s girlfriend felt comfortable laughing with him while watching a woman cry. like i guess be ready for him to laugh at you if you’re ever in her position
devlemons did that?? :(
@@SurprisedBamb00just saw it and was super disappointed. It's in the first 7 or 8 minutes
@@SurprisedBamb00 dev isn't Nick's gf.
@@dorkybeer801 yes she is they have talked about it multiple times
@@viridian7635 wierd... cause I remember nick hinting at dev being lesbian.
The Super Mega situation was so messy. Like how did the main focus do such a hard shift off the alleged SA and Don, but instead on to some minor bullshit involving the two creators of Super Mega? Seriously how exactly did we get here?
I still have a problem with super mega because something just seems fishy over there in general. But I thought it was hilarious that Nick decided to focus on (excuse my brain fog) the one guy going out with an onlyfans creator. I thought it was super sketchy and weird how in the past heat and dev felt like they had to be clear about how they are just friends while Nick was dating Isabelle but they acted way closer and Nick went onto eventually date Dev.... Something about that just really rubs me the wrong way
We got there because, most likely, all of Lex’s group had grudges against Super Mega, and decided to focus their attention onto them, regardless of the actual seriousness of Assault Allegations
Ethan is beyond insufferable it's kind of impressive. Someone who is secure in their values wouldn't be making all these low effort videos for clout.
Someone who is secure in the values is capable of entertaining values opposite of his own. Ethan is incapable of doing so and it shows because he uses the lowest of insults only argues with strawmen.
Like I'm not a socialist but African Socialism suited Senegal. I don't think it suits Europeans or Americans.
bro is secure in his values of making hella bands 🤑🤑🔥🗣
Insufferably smug
using a suicide victim as a weapon is abhorrent
Bro thinks he's Rais from Dying Light
I don't like reductive arguments either; sex ed/heath is not meant to be perverse but to inform children on their body and how to establsh/ respect boundaries. Drag Queens reading books to kids is a theater performance, if they are reading a grade level book then I do not get how this is inherently sexually perverse.
Why do they want to read to the children so badly and in Drag. Usually kids go to plays, exhibits or museums to showcase future careers and possibilities. There more to it than just reading a book to kids.
@@GangStalker17no, people are fighting for it because people insist so hard that there is a creepy aspect when in reality it’s just people celebrating queer culture. It’s literally the exact same as a party princess reading books to kids. Is it necessary? No, but it’s fun and engaging for kids. It lets them be imaginative and accept differences. It’s not to introduce a career, it’s as simple as reading to kids to introduce to them that different human beings exist, and that there aren’t “boy colors” and “girl colors” like many little kids are taught. Little kids are often taught gender stereotypes and shit like that. It’s genuinely as simple as celebrating queer culture, diversity, and imagination and making a safe space for kids and their imaginations.
@@GangStalker17drag has been a part of children’s entertainment it is plenty of kid’s/family friendly sitcoms, get over it
@@audramcdonaldapologist3676 Since when buddy? Where on earth is it common place? I’ve never seen that implemented in my own experiences nor anyone I know, including teachers and counselors. Dont take the fact that it’s attempted and enacted now as an indication that it is a common practice. What type of media are you consuming?
@@GangStalker17Google "pantomimes" they've been around for over a century and nearly all female villains in them are played by men in drag. It's an annual tradition in the UK.
Oh, also in ballet women can be played by men, and in theater women were REQUIRED BY LAW to be played by men because women weren't allowed to be actors until relatively recently.
Edited for spelling errors.
even when i watched ethan, him defending idubbzz putting that 15 year old on blast didn’t sit right with me. the dude’s so obsessed with politics and being on the “right side” that he thinks bullying teenagers is morally acceptable
I think Destiny said it best that Nickisnotgreen and Ethan Is Online are bullies but because they have the woke demeanor and they hide their bullying behind this veil of progressivism. they can do it and not get called out because it’s bullying for the right reasons.
I don't like destiny, but as a big nickisnotgreen fan this comment def helped me see the issue with him.
I dislike destiny as he is just a debate lord, but he ain't wrong about nickisnotgreen, ethan I can forgive more as I feel he is covers topics better and I don't disagree with most of his political and social points
@@jasonmillsom2981did you see what he was saying about the people who catch predators
@mannperson324 i mean I don't disagree with him on that topic, i find the child predator catcher influencer to be quite bad, I think even Chris Hansen questioned some of their methods bc barely any of the pdf files go to jail, like there's only been 2 such videos where I actually think the predators in question went to jail
@mannperson324 also from memory, there was a dude on twitter who released actual Child P on the site and Elon Musk saw 0 problem with that, which is insane
The most annoying thing is when people mention "proof" BUT DONT SHOW IT. It's like writing an essay and not citing sources, like where did you get this from.
Winner winner chicken dinner
Or Fox “news” hosts saying “and we KNOW this”
YUPPPPP. THIS. so then i'm gonna assume you do not have any and you're lying. it's so sus. i get privacy but likeeee. i'm not going to believe a wild claim with ZERO proof of it. and you can't be mad that nobody believes it when that's you're CHOICE.
@@mthomas1091 You spelled MSNBC/CNN/NewYorkTimes wrong.
"you can go on any platfotm and get nick's pronouns but what you can't get are his adjectives; stupid and dumb" that was hilarious 💀
I’m an artist and I often draw things like ducks and dogs on skateboards. I wonder what sort of political statements they make
i agree with the video but the random dig at childrens sexual education seems weird and lacking nuance
Have u seen his take on tbys?
its funny that this part is in the "lacking nuance" section too
I haven’t watched either of these RUclipsrs for like the better part of almost 2 years now, it’s kinda sad seeing them being hypocrites and lying about a whole bunch of stuff or being misinformed because they do have potential.
i used to watch these two a lot but i'm glad i stopped because the way they act morally superior despite them clearly having flaws and immediately take sides before the entire situation is done is something i don't stand for. i stopped watching nick because he jumped into a situation (unrelated to this one) asking if he should talk about it while clearly wording it with bias and trying to get his audience riled up so they'd vote for it instead of an issue that was much more important. and i stopped watching ethan because of a reactionary, insensitive thumbnail where they called a youtuber "manipulative" for crying and making a tribute to his dead friend. criticisms i thought i'd add
i agree with a comment saying they have potential--- they do. ethan has had some very good criticisms. but they also have had very bad ones in instances where they just attack or want the audience to blindly believe and follow everything, which invalidates the good arguments. ethan and nick both seem very reactionary and immature (like ethan repeatedly calling sensitivesociety a bitch and nick making fun of the crying love surge girl for being "cringe"), which is something they need to work on. it's not a good look
i'm a leftist (which might get me called a "snowflake" or "woke" or a slur but irdc) and it upsets me to see this as a full representation of leftism, where everything has to be political and if you don't blindly believe everything that's said, you're stupid and wrong and hateful. it's not and it shouldn't be.
Fellow leftist here, and these two really exemplify what's wrong with many leftist spaces.
They’re really doing leftist dirty making people think we’re doofus’s like them
Agree with your comment, wanted to add that the two seem to me to be part of a chronically online part of the left that would greatly be benefitted by going outside and talking to people IRL and not just on Twitter
You all seem like chill bros regardless of the fact that we have different political views, we should all stop identifying with political stances and just start identifying as cool dudes that aren’t reactionary haha
@sugargngies
I swear, most of us "right wingers" don't hate lefties. Most of us have plenty of family & friends who don't agree with our politics. ALOT of us used to be lefties ourselves, and so we understand that decent intelligent people can have "leftist" beliefs. Alot of them have very good intentions.
Since younger folks tend to be more left-leaning, the worst behaviour is going to seen in left-leaning communities. But that doesn't mean bad behaviour is entirely representative of the left.
WHY DOES NO ONE POINT OUT THE VIDEOS OF NICK IGNORING HIS PREVIOUS GIRLFRIEND FOR THIS MORE POPULAR GIRL?! AND KICKING HER OUT AND DUMPING HER TO BE WITH THE NEW GIRL
Wait please explain
Yes; please share with the class
i was gonna say his gf looks different. i was asking where his cute gf went. Who is this new girl?
@@crystalsmith9038just commenting here in case any one finds it
@@Spaceghost5446 that’s crazy he’s dating dev lemons now. I knew there was something going on between them. I was thinking she was too pretty to be a friend. Dude probably cheated on his ex to get with her
Nick's rant on twitter about that one tiktok comment saying he panders slightly to his audience still makes me giggle - like how can you be THAT sensitive. 😭😭
Ethan is just so off-puttingly cruel. It's like he views his political opponents as subhuman. I'm not even right-leaning, but seeing the way he talks about them just disheartens me.
That's because Ethan can't handle criticism, so he resorts to ad hominem attacks.
It’s because Ethan can’t criticize someone without making sure his audience believes that person is evil otherwise they might notice he’s just a petty and insecure baby
@@Goblinhandler💯💯
@@Goblinhandler thank you for the correct take, Goblinhandler. Do you handle mind goblins by any chance?
Absolutely. Ethan and I would probably agree on a lot of political ideologies, but I just don’t like how he goes about it. Or how far he takes it. Or straight up talking about politics when it’s not even necessary. And it doesn’t help that he acts like a child when someone steps up to him, but also something about his face puts me off
These two seem like they had their growth/minds stunted. What happened?
liberalism, that's exactly what it does to you.
@@AbrasiousProductionsSeconded. Googling "leftism mental illness" shows plenty of articles on how leftism damages people's mentsl health.
Bad genetics. And bad parenting.
@@AnonymousAnonposter I'll give you bad parenting but quit with the eugenics crap.
@@AbrasiousProductions What's wrong with eugenics?
i’m someone who’s very left leaning, not an extremist, but left leaning, and i seriously wish more people in leftist spaces would call people like ethan and nick out for their shitty behavior. i agree with some of their beliefs but they go about making content so poorly. its all reactionary and annoying. it’s not hard to post videos disagreeing with others without being a massive douche, nick and ethan just don’t know how to do that. to me? they don’t seem like actual leftists. they seem like the type of guy who will champion far left beliefs just to impress the liberal women around them. same as film cooper, who is equally as insufferable if at least a bit less douchey. while i don’t agree with a lot of the political views expressed in this video, i have a lot of gratitude for people who make videos about these two, and i seriously wish that more people in the leftists space would do the same. we don’t need douchebags representing us.
How can you be left leaning when you are against feminism. You are literally playing the devils advocate for right wingers rn. Traitor
@@Lbb291what do you count as feminism
I think it’s our duty as leftists in fact to expel these kinds of grifters from our spaces
I mean if Hassan doesn't get called ot i doubt any others will
@@skittybee Traitor
Ethan calling charlie an idiot is the pinnacle of irony.
He kinda looks like that one spider from nick jr..... I lost it... the best insult I've ever heard in my entire life
holley, spinner, or spiderus? 😭
Christ Nick, is an actual sociopath
I thought christ was a title for a second there
As an artist, the idea of "all art being political" just pisses me off and Ethan's arrogance on the subject as if he understands art or artists is infuriating. Guarantee you the dude knows nothing about art fundamentals, processes, the different mediums used, the time and patience it requires for improvement, etc. He just sees it as a tool to further push his own politics, and not think about any substance or actual intent of the artist. Also him talking about how Alex should fund the therapy and housing of pedophiles that tried to meet up with what they thought were children is a MASSIVE self report.
Could you give me an example of apolitical art? I'm actually legitimately curious as to what your answer is, since it can never hurt to have more perspectives.
@@TheSteakJustice People just conflate political with cultural or social. If I paint a lizard with shoes on because I want a lizar with shoes on painting there really isn't anything political about that
Brah, I feel the pain, I remember in highschool doing these paintings in art class and being asked "what's behind the painting, what's the message" etc, like "I think it looks good so i drew it" wasn't a good enough answer. Now this "everything is political " trend is like an even worse version of that brainrot
@ggwellplayed7663 well sure, I figure "all art is political" tends to relate more to, like, narrative pieces, or something that isn't just a wholesale depiction of an object or the like. Even then, i guess the argument could be made that artistic expression in and of itself is a political statement as there are certain ultra-utilitarian ideologies that would consider the time and resources that go into the creation of art as wasteful and would shun the very idea (this is largely hypothetical but you *know* there are kids out there who got abused because they wanted to do "sissy shit" like drawing)
@@TheSteakJusticeI drew a possum screaming holding a child's magic wand, on a skateboard wearing a pink princess dress with the words "follow your dreams" over it. Not even a furry, like a regular ass realistic drawn possum awkwardly placed there, because I thought it would be funny. Also when you draw stuff because you think it would look cool, no thoughs head empty or because you like drawing a certain way and you think it's fun but there's no real concept behind it.
Like op said, sometimes artists just draw for entertainment por to amuse others.
Ethan's whole "all art is political" video is still such a brainrot take to me. Like, yes, art can be political, and a lot (perhaps most) is, but to insinuate *all art* is, is about as close-minded as you can be when it comes to art.
Locking down everything in a medium full of differing mindsets and feelings to just "political" is wrong. Also, observing everything through a political lens all the time is no fun anyway. Not everything has to make a statement, political or otherwise.
If you believe Video Games to be art, because they are, then by that standard all games are political too, no? Games _can_ be political, Fallout and Metal Gear are great examples of actual politics in games, but that was the *entire point* of those games. To spread a message, whether subtly, satirically, or obviously, that War = Bad. And to be fun games ofc, which was really all that matters.
However, to say that *all games* are political is incorrect. What're the inherent politics behind Hello Kitty Island Adventure, or Pong, or Pepsiman, or even something like Custom Order Maid? Looking at something as absurd as Pepsiman or as "adult-only" as Custom Order Maid and seeing only "political" is just the most pigheaded stance you can have.
Just like how every dolphin is a whale, but not every whale is a dolphin: Art can be political, but not all art is political.
lil bro missed the point
All art is informed by the artist values and worldview, that's what the phrase means, not that everything is political propaganda
@@catsinburg8626this
@catsinburg8626 Every action you take is informed by your values and worldview. This means everything is political, and if everything is political, then nothing is. That's why I find the phrase "all art is political" reductive, because it's as vague and broad as it gets.
@@hot_soup4319 i have to gently disagree. The personal is political especially within the current globalized world system we live in. Even interpersonal relationships have political aspects because politics in a nutshell is about relationships both between people as well as people and the various apparatuses that make up society
I'm surprised the controversy didn't happen between the two until recently.both of them are very untrustworthy
This is just to good. Also Ethan decided to defend pedos in one of is recent videos. its on desel patches. thank you for that video man.
Sort of, didn’t he just defend them because he’s dumb? Like he wasn’t willing to give Alex any sort of props so in effect he basically ends up defending pedophiles? He’s dumb for sure tbf
of course he did.. we all know why too.
can someone elaborate on this? im so out of the loop
@@AbrasiousProductionssomeone needs to search his computer
@@My-cat-is-staring-at-you I wouldn't touch his computer with a ten foot pole, who knows what heinous crap is on it..
There’s no way that girl he was defending from super mega isn’t just him with some eyeliner on….
11:20 it's so funny to see him go "You're mean to me, I don't like it when you comment on my appearance😢". Zero self awareness
comparing the online left to the manosphere is ridiculous
Extremist echo chambers are always gonna be harmful to you and to your community. Even tho the manosphere and the far left communities are so different, they are filled with arrogance, aggression, lack of proper communication and assumptions that anyone else is a total piece of shit dimwit who's being fooled by the other side. Most people however are just normal regular individuals who happen to lean left or right and they're usually level headed enough to speak about these topics in a productive way instead of making it their entire identity.
Ur retarded
It's basically the same thing and both make shit tier content to cater to their bases.
They’re two sides of the same dumb coin. It’s an apt comparison
@alabastertheunicorn3204 One thing teaches you to hate women, while the other thing teaches you to hate everyone who has a different opinion from you.
I used to watch ethan, then he started to have some bad "american centeric" takes. Like "why is this british creator not talking about the American anti abortion laws".
Yeah. It’s a global issue, sir. I say that with all disrespect. Come on.
@@nonprofitgirl can you explain to me how it's a global issue please?
@@madamekinx2933They can’t, because they don’t actually know anything other than how to be snarky and condescending.
The vacant stare into the camera when he apologises just shows he doesn't believe a word he's saying, he's so emotionally detached.
i used to be a fan of nick's up until his coverage of sorb3t which really rubbed me the wrong way. he was really unnecessarily mean to those poor girls and created another avenue for them to be harassed when they were already getting an insane amount of hate. he took no time to understand the concept of overseas idol groups and justified his mean comments by suggesting that the lead member was a racist (which simply isn't true). hate hate HATE when people champion themselves for their superior morals and virtuosity when in reality they can be just as rude (and in this case misogynistic) as their opposers. hope both him and ethan have learned from this past year of total public humiliation - i bet it keeps them up at night that supermega are back and doing just fine lol
Sorb3t's whole controversy just proves how racist people can be... you dont want non-japanese people speaking the language and forming an idol band? For what reason??
Plus overseas idols arent a big deal in japan. People get offended on the behalf of japanese people way too often
I cannot imagine how SuperMega must've felt when Nick brought up Daniel. Like that's actual evil behavior.
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I have never been a fan of Ethan’s content. To me, he always came off as extremely rude and insensitive when talking about controversial topics. Even if some of the people he was talking about were awful scum of the earth, the way he spoke about them just seemed very…immature? I don’t really know how to describe it, but he always gave me bad vibes.
I just mentioned that- I really hate Shane Dawson but there was something about the way Ethan was talking about him that was really mean spirited and made me click off the video
lmao they have matching glasses bruh 💀
Damn, didn't catch your expose content over your spooky stuff
Well done on exposing these folk!
i hate seeing this happen. i trusted the opinions of ethan and nick for a long time, and they were my favorite RUclipsrs. but i had to learn the hard way that not every commentary RUclipsr does their rightful research into the nuance. i feel very disappointed in them, and I wholeheartedly agree that they should not be on the internet anymore. some people just aren't fit for it.
Look at it as a lesson learned! It’s never wise to put a celebrity, e-celeb, or really anybody on any kind of pedestal because we are all flawed and sooner or later the image you have cultivated of them in your head will be shattered. It sucks, but at least you won’t make the same mistake again :]
woah you finally stepped foot out of the echo chamber. Welcome to the real world. I should warn you, not everyone is going to agree with your beliefs.
@@spaceghost8886 i agree! nick and ethan were some of the first controversial/commentary youtubers i had ever watched, and on top of being ~15, i was naive to the whole atmosphere
@@bethmorgan6812lmao I guess you being 15 explains it, I'm just glad when I was 15 I watched actually good youtubers
this is kind of unrelated but as a trans guy i hate nick and ethan for doing so many videos "defending" my community. they weren't well researched, they didn't talk to actual trans people, and they acted morally superior to people who just didn't understand.
when someone is trying to hurt or kill us, bullying is fine imo. when someone is genuinely interacting with trans people for the first time and gets something wrong, let them learn!!! people like nick and ethan don't help us at all, they only make cis people afraid of us.
Trans dude here as well, it feels like they are sort of 'white knighting' for us which I do not like at all. I would rather watch actual trans creators who actually have skin in the game (Dead Domain has put out some bangers) or people who make and effort to do their research.
Asa non binary person, agreed lol. It’s like bullying a small child because they don’t understand multiplication on the first day of school
Eathan took sexual advantage of a SA survivor. Almost instantly started a physical relationship with Lex after she told him she was SAed and self admitted to be insanely vulnerable.
Ewwww
do you have proof of this? Not trynna come off as passive aggressive i’m just genuinely curious because i watch both Ethan and Nick and if they doing fuck shit i’ll stop
@@dev_925 Lex admits to starting a physical relationship with Ethan shortly after telling him about Don. Its in her video, and confirmed in many other documentory videos.
Yeah Ethan and Nick think everything has to be either good or bad. like you said no nuance. You can do a good thing and be a bad person. you can do a bad thing and have good traits. You can disagree on one topic without disagreeing on all topics. 0.o what is really scary is there are fans of ethan that believe everything he says. much like essence of thought they are conspiracy brained. Just because they thought something, the believe it is. So then they present their assumptions as facts.
i'll be honest that i thought ethans gf was nick with a wig and i was confused for a moment
i was one of the idiots who fell for everything nick said despite actively watching supermega. i remember feeling so guilty for reacting the way i did especially when ryan uploaded his video. like i’m usually diplomatic when it comes to online “drama” that doesn’t involve me but nick had never given me a reason to mistrust him and i’m not some parasocial middle schooler i’m and adult with a degree and i literally practiced zero speculation - but you really don’t want to disbelieve people when they make these claims.
I liked Nick at first but after awhile, Ethan and nick just... boring. Hypocritical. I hate Ben Shapiro more than the next guy, but him saying "Ben isnt a real jew." Like?? He practices religion with his family all the time which is the one and only respectable thing abiut him. And he backpeddled when some of his chat got angry at him, me jncluded. There are LOADS of things to go after Ben for, but the one thing hes actually knowledgeable in??? Crazy.
tbh the "all art is political" point as a whole is kind of complex and interesting. but ethan is the worst person to approach it. he's arrogant, shallow and lacks much in the way of sincere original insight. he's like a wikipedia article on the modern art movement but with a condescending attitude. and i like the modern art movement and have my reasons to defend it!
"It's not illegal to talk to someone who's pretending to be a little girl!" My mans has NEVER seen TCAP with Chris Hansen
There's absolutely no way her video about her being abused in a relationship was fucking SPONSORED.
This video misses the point on so many things. I won't sit here and defend these two like I give a single fuck about them. But what I will say is, if you think most conservatives aren't literal fascists, you're in a fantasy world. That isn't a radical position anymore. Maybe like 15 years ago, but not anymore. It's an observable fact.
what points were missed?
You weren't even born 15 years ago. LOL
@@ytsm I'm 28. Dipshit lol
@@drazirahcLoL The dude's both-sidesing the situation and it's really cringe. There is an objective evil within the modern right-wing politics of American citizens. Some Christian school in Kentucky or Alabama or some other cousin-fucking state recently put out a photo of all the white boys in their most recent graduating class, every single one of them doing Nazi salutes. In an official photo taken by the school. If you can see shit like that happening in this country, and then go "Oh well I mean but the Left is just as bad!", then you have brainrot and I don't know how to help you.
True like how he defending tbys who almost got someone killed over a lie he made up as his Ethan video was proving Ethan right
Keep in mind the whole blacks up dog situation is from a grown woman she's 27 it's not other people's jobs to find housing for her especially if they're ex-employers
Good summary! I thought I knew most of it, but missed the 2lazy2try coverage and the IG post.
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Ethan looks like the kind of guy to sit in a van across from a kid's playground breathing really heavily the entire time.
i love how ethan chastised that one dude for being "mean" when 90% of the time ethan opens his mouth it's to call someone he dislikes or disagrees with stupid/cringe/etc. i know way more about both of these tools than i ever wanted to because of the supermega drama and i hate that youtube basically let them get away with it. it seems like nick's audience is gone for good and he's slowly giving up on youtube so that's some consolation, but unfortunately ethan is still going strong.
The supermega situation is what finally opened my eyes to all the issues with Ethan and nicks content, and I haven’t watched them since. The only thing that still bothers me is the amount of blame put on lex. It just seems like she was finally ready to tell her story, and everyone around her stuck their claws in and made it about themselves, while also leaving the VICTIM of SA to take all the feedback and criticism. While she brought things up that weren’t relevant or ok to bring up, she already explained why she did it (thought she needed to overdo her explanation for people to believe her which is very common for SA victims) and she even apologized to supermega, but people still attack her. I hope lex is doing ok and gets away from the selfish people around her. Anyways that’s my rant, pretty good video!
Lots of ethan and nick fans in here. Great video dude youre way underrated. Glad sensitive society reccomended your channel
I'm left wing and I hate these creeps. They all seem to think they represent us for some reason.
I think its interesting that you consider these guys to be breadtubers lol. I tend to think breadtubers as people who teach or educate far-left thinking ratehr than just people who have far left politics. Doesn't this nick guy make vids where he smokes weed everytine he laughs or whatever? Well, you know before he did that Supermega stuff....
Nick and Ethan both just hit a bunch of hits off a dab pen while having almost red eyes and it shows
yeah he doesn’t really make political videos he just is left leaning. most of his videos are just online drama tea or exactly what you said from what i used to watch before the super mega thing. honestly sad the direction they his videos went he should’ve just shut up and kept doing you cringe you smoke
i find it impressive how people can make videos like this where they watch countless videos of people like nickis not green and ethanisonline and make these long essay videos i definetly couldntt handle their annoying content and i hate how smug they always come across
I can't help but think that commentary on RUclips was a mistake sometimes.
@@Saltedroastedcaramelthe beast that eats its own tail
am i tripping or do nick and lex look like two versions of the same person
they're manufactured in the same facility.
I don’t disagree about people commenting on looks, but then you did it. Like come on. Calling someone frosty the snowman immediately after calling them out for the same hypocrisy is crazy
I was very clear that I think it's fine to make jokes like that towards other public figures. I'm criticizing Nick and Ethan for their hypocrisy. They're Crybullies essentially who make those jokes and can take it themselves.
Yet u also shown your hypocrisy and biased in this video
@@kuggacouragegx6093i mean he never once said making jokes about that is mean or that it’s wrong to joke abt someone’s appearance. so joking about appearance isn’t hypocritical of him at all unless ur talking about something else
@@elysevarga3030 so u didn't even paid attention to the video
10:38 those pfps next to each other make it look like they’re in the same room all smoking some weed
your video kinda starts to fall apart when you attempt to say someone is biased but then make a Very Very Biased comment about drag shows and then talk about a Very Very Biased youtuber.
I consider myself pretty far left leaning and used to be a fan of the two. I was never a big drama person though so I gradually stopped watching them as their takes seemed incredibly reactionary and sometimes downright cruel. On the super mega drama I first watched Nick’s video, had an idea of where he was coming from but waited until the response to fully form an opinion. It really showed how twisted and selfish his worldview is and goes to show that reactionaries exist on all sides of the political spectrum
same his videos honestly got lazier lazier and repetitive and boring. the takes went from pretty nuanced to just “look how stupid this person is hahaha” the only thing i ever rlly loved was you cringe you smoke but i can’t even watch them anymore
why the fuck do they have the same glasses 😭😭
Agree 100% with you, Rob.
it's a damn shame this video came out too early when Lex Updog just doubled down in a youtube video a day or so ago lol.
i genuinely thought that lex and that nickisnotgreen guy were the same person in the beginning
I love the conclusion!
Hot-Damn our badadd queen in here?? Guess I should sub to this guy
this is meant to be constructive criticism - when talking about topics, like the types of things that annoy you about the people you’re critiquing, you should try to remain objective when giving context instead of just
“he is mocking xyz but xyz is in fact based”
like it’s not good journalism and is just as biased as the content you’re covering. just fyi it’s a relatively easy fix - remain objective. that’s it
It's so weird how they constantly say "my s.a." or "her s.a." like it is a piece of property or something. If it really happened and it was a traumatic experience, people tend to dissociate from this shit and usually say something like "after what happened to me", or "after he assaulted me".
the thing about them being quirky and wholesome but being just as hateful is so true
I dislike these two content creators, but this is such a nothing video lmao
Literally
Right. Like he’s doing exactly what he’s criticizing them for. He makes fun of what ethan looks like right after saying how it’s low to make fun of peoples looks. He also talks about how nick is biased in his content, then defends the content creators he likes, while bashing the ones he doesn’t. Idk personally this didn’t really prove anything, just trying to smear them because he doesn’t like them. 🤷♀️
I don’t like ethan or nick either, but cmon.
also him including a tweet where someone calls lex a wh0re right after a whole segment on how she was SA’d..that’s kinda shitty.
also him including a tweet where someone calls lex a wh0re after a whole segment on how she was SA’d. like cmon now..
A nothing burger fr, nick and ethan are just kinda mean and boring
Breadtubers always come off as cultish. Especially when responding to criticism when they fuck up.
does anyone else think that Lex literally looks exactly like Nick in a wig LMFAO it gives the whole thing a layer of irony I can’t handle
never expected a xavier renegade angel clip, earned my sub
Oh that's who he is. I saw one tweet he made about Predator Poachers and was confused how come people kept calling him a pedo. After hearing the Cuties thing, now I get it.
I really need to start keeping up with these things. Especially with the whole Predator Poachers drama cuz I was under the impression that they were still using their old practices.
meanwhile, nick has stopped posting all together, ethan had to move back home, lost his girl, lost his bronco, and is blissfully continued to post like nothing ever happened. i dont know which one is more pathetic
I think Ethan is more pathetic. He’s always acting so high and mighty that if you try to correct them with common sense, he thinks you’re a right winger. He deserves this downfall. I don’t pray on it, but I know he’s going to be humbled real quick
Nick is still uploading by dude
@@Haifa386 Has he said anything about Lex coming back and shitting on him?
@@whiskeyhound I don't know I haven't watched him since 2021/22 I stopped watching all those bread tubers because I left they were bullies and their arguement weren't have good but from other youtuber's vids I have watched they aren't friends anymore and that ethan and lex were being shady towards nick
even if he did make jokes about the suicide, you have NO idea how people cope. he found him after he killed himself, he has every right to grieve however he pleases
Idk the details about Ethan's take on art being inherently political but what I will say is that more art than expected can be political, even unintentionally. Like for example, Glorilla has her album Ehhthang Ehhthang and she raps in her Memphis accent. She probably was just doing what she likes and sharing her experiences, but the fact that she didn't use ""proper English"" speaks to the broader assumption of there being correct and incorrect ways of speech, which then gets into colonization, power structures, and similar. Her being unashamed and open about her perspective is political in that it goes against the grain of "correct" ways to operate in America (not just limited to speech, but also identities). I myself am a queer disabled genderfluid girlie of color and taking care of myself and accepting myself *is* inherently political bc I am no longer bowing to what's considered normal. I no longer shame myself for having different needs or not following eurocentric beauty standards, etc. Yet, not complying can be very dangerous. It's not just how I perceive myself but also how I am perceived. My general appearance convinces people that I am Woman, which comes with its own dangers, but not presenting "cisgender enough" or being known to have transitioned adds another layer of danger. In come the unsolicited comments, the stalking, the threat of attack. Just think of all the black trans women killed every year with no justice. All that to say, there's a lot of room for discussion about the crossover of art/expression and politics. Expression that isn't meant to be anything in particular can be political in a larger context whether it's meant to be or not. Simultaneously, I think that saying all art is always political is too much of a generalization. I would love to hear others' thoughts on the matter.
Tbh this video was a whole nothing burger
What is worse is that this channel had a point till they shown their own hypocritical bs by being bad faith too
I need your guys' thoughts on Nick's brother
There's two of them?!?
@@RobsMedia25 yes 😭
youtube.com/@itsAustinGreen?si=zQ38KC8IqcB4uRnj
I have switched over to watch him, and he is like a breath of fresh air!!
Yes, Nick’s brother has his own channel. It started getting more traffic thanks to the algorithm. His brother is actually pretty cool. He covers different internet drama than Nick and usually approaches topics in a different way than Nick.
He is actually doing waaay better than Nick, approaching topics very calmly, doesn’t throw around petty insults and arguments.
@leileyaravencroft whats his account?
New cast of dumb and dumber looks promising
“I guess Ethan is online” was the hardest bar of this beef from sensitivesociety lmao 😂
Yeah these guys give me bad vibes now. but you do too. And I don't think they're radicalising people, but they are definitely pandering and it seems very performative and they are very selective with their values
It's always guys with messy hair and round glasses.
Quick question if anyone can confirm, Is The Quick Slice also Nickisnotgreen??
OHHH you like think before you sleep that explains so much 😭
before i watch this. i like both of these guys. i just think that any kids arent as smart as they thimk. give them a commentary channel and success they will eventually look like contradicting dummies. i stopped watching these guys because of the lack of thoughtful content and how oppinionated nick is about music to then turn around and tell us queef jerkys new album is coming out. i get the joke but its always cringe when an artist says other art sucks. i think they will grow soon but they arent as mature as they pretend.
i agree with every point:/ never watched ethan but followed nick for a bit, but stopped after the love surge video
I used to watch these guys but after the whole SM sting operation I realized how big of losers they are especially Ethan
I cant look at that guy, i dont have to specify who i am talking about we all know
How old is this stuff man?
Nick I had high hopes for you, smh.