ORCS vs URUK-HAI | Battle Report (500pt) | Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2021
- Today we bring you a 500+ point match play Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game between 'Mordor' led by Gothmog, Shagrat and Gorbag against 'Isengard' led by Lurtz, Mauhur and an Uruk-hai Captain!
Who will win this evil vs evil showdown??
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Love the content guys ! Don't get why people get upset about the tiny details just enjoy it.
Thank you :D
Idk why they would get upset, Saruman would HELLA backstab Sauron in a heart beat. In fact he wanted the ring to be the next dark lord of middle earth.
I’ve wanted to play this game for 20 years. Now I think I shall ☺️
Another great video guys, keep up the good work! =) Some battles that I would like to see soon are: THE BATTLE OF DALE, THE BATTLE OF MORIA and THE BATTLE OF HELM'S DEEP! As these are BIG battles, you could try a 1000 points battle to try and recreate them whilst also keeping them to a realistic size for your battle boards and the length of your videos =) Also some cool ideas for different game types that you could try for added variety are: CAPTURE THE FLAG(S), KING OF THE HILL, CAPTURE / KILL THE LEADER and CONQUER & CONTROL ALL STRONGHOLDS! =)
Thanks! Yeah we will definitely be trying some different objectives and stuff soon. Just using these skirmishes to get solid with all the little rules first 😁
Absolutely fantastic battle! Love it. Keep it up please!
Thanks! Will do! :D
Love the videos guys, only recently discovered you so Im glad I have a good backlog to go through!
Hey, guys! Third of your videos I watched. I love your camera views, the way you show rules and profiles, the different boards and terrain and they way you talk and discuss! Very professional, super entertainment!
I have some hints for you, if it is okay:
05:50 orcs should move 6 (or 3 if you want to shoot)
07:00 Come on, everything is so professional... until you use those measuring tools. Please get something better 😅
07:52 Actually, the kind of structure is important if you make an in-the-way-test, not how much of the oponent it covers. There is light (f.e. bushes and long gras), heavy (f.e. wood and stone) and fortified (f.e. loopholes) cover
21:50 if you fail a jump test over a wall, the unit is not prone but remains standing in front of the wall
26:10 the highest fight value on each side counts for all dice (later you ask about it). The 6 of the berserker would enough to have the draw and a 50 : 50 roll for who wins the combat. I also try to explain the "attack"-rule: After Mordor won the combat had Shagrat to make three strikes (3 attacks) and a orc with spear to make 1 strike (1 attack) on two targets, Lurtz and the berserker. For each of the four strikes to make you can choose a target. If the target is trapped or prone, then the strike is doubled (1 die becomes 2 dices). In this situation would be my choice:
Try to kill Lurtz, who should be proned, too, btw! First let the spear supporter strike on him with two dice, then make single strikes (every strike has two dices) with Shagrat (who has the blood and glory special rule). If Lurtz dies and Shagrat still has 1-2 strikes, target the berserker.
27:30 If an infantery model counter charge a cavallary model (or Shagrat 😉) which has charged before, this counter charging model is still knocked prone if loosing the fight
43:00 Pls be aware that you have to make as many single fights in this situation then possible. If Lurtz is in contact with the orc with spear, he has to fight him alone, while Shagrat fights the pike carriers in a second combat. Same at 46:00 or 52:15 .
48:40 There comes the first heroic action! Nice! But keep in mind: All heroic actions have to be announced at the beginning of either the movement (march, move, channeling, resolve), shooting (shooting, accuracy) or combat (strike, strength, combat, defense) phase. Telling your oponent at the start of the specific combat is too late 😉
In general I emphasize you make use of heroic actions more often in future. Especially the heroic strike would have helped Gorbag and Gothmog a lot in their combats. And Heroic Moves would msybe give Shagrat the opportunity to use his shield more often. Maybe my advice to get used to it: The player with prority asks the other player at beginning of each phase "Any heroic actions"? (And the next level would be the specisl strikes depending on the weapons 😉)
57:25 Do you generally not play with the "army-broken-rule"?
I hope, my comment is not too long. I just thought it might help. 😇
If anything is unclear (maybe because I am not a native speaker), you can always ask 🙂
Agreed, the above is everything I could think of too. Awesome channel, would love to see more heroic actions, especially heroic move with Shagrat!
Orcs move 6 dude, idk where you got 5 from
@@RosieJonesRules true, wanted to say 6 😅
I discovered your channel yesterday and well,
To be fair this moment where you explain you will stop using your home rules etc, is touching and seems to come from two very nice and kind guys so thanks for sharing it with us :D because I love lotr, and it misses some good content for me to enjoy ;)
Heroic Combat- *Exists* TableTopAlliance- 'Tool of the Devil! I refuse to use it- ever!'
Also, on the plus side, camera is great. You guys are great at showing flow of game and battlefield situation. Lighting is superb too
I think this hobby is gunna blow up come the amazon series, very simple to pick up, and allows you to build and paint and collect items from middle earth, what’s not to like haha, keep it up guys
I reeaaally hope so! Thanks! :)
I agree, I’m getting into it now.
I’ve been collecting them for the last 15 years, would be cool if they made a comeback
it's not that common to make strikes against multiple models with only some of them being prone but it can happen (for example when you charge two models in the move phase and one of them has been knocked prone by some kind of special rule). when you win fights you direct your attacks at your enemy amd may split them the way you want. you normally get one strike for each attack you have but if an attack is directed at a model that is prone you get two dice/strikes.
so for example: a model jumps off a building and gets knocked prone in the process in player 1's movement phase. then player 2 moves their models and moves one infantry hero model with 3 attacks (like Lurtz or Mauhur) into base contect with the prone model and another warrior. the hero model wins the fight and now has to make strikes. if the hero directs one attack on the prone model and the remaining attacks at the other warrior both will be hit by two strikes. the one attack against the prone model is translated into two strikes. the remaining two attacks are resolved as normal.
Yessss! This one was awesome guys! I'd like to see your favorite armies against each other, whatever they may be.
Thanks so much 😊
Loving the playthroughs! Don't get disheartened by any nasty hobbitses!! :)
Finally a channel for MESBG,
:D
The trolls being mean to you need get over it. This isn’t a how to channel. You guys are just having fun and letting us watch. They can go start their own channel and play shoots and ladders strictly by the rules. You should play any way you want. Being able to craft the game the way you want is a big part of the magic.
Thanks Ellen 😊
Big respect for the DDP and RVD references
Really cool videos guys keep it up :)
Thanks! 😊
long videos are good! yeeea nice video guys ❤️
Thanks 😁
@@TheTabletopAlliance thanks to you! and yes in a combat all the fighters share the highest fight value in the duel roll!
Please more of this, I love this !
Lots more coming 😁
Another great batrep. You guys have legendary Camera pans, would love to find out your method.
From my understanding, you count the highest fight value in a combat amongst all thrown dice
Thanks for that! Maybe we will do a video one day showing our set up etc :)
pg 47 of the gandalf rule book multiple combats "only consider the highest scoring dice and the highest fight value on each side"
Tough to call a winner, the Uruk fight value might help but it’s going to come down to the heroes and Shagrat is a beast
I have just come across your videos and your games are very entertaining, even though you seem to be cursed with your rolling at times haha. Just a couple of questions ....
- Where did you get your battlemat from ?
- Where did your get your towers/ruins from ?
Looking forward to watching more.
Thanks
Dan
uruk hai have uruk hai bows s3 range 18 amazing battle even if im still 15 min in
Oops :(
Love the wrestling references
if you feel confident and amused by the game which has some modified rules then i dont see the problem. you content is incredible i love it. both TBS and The Tabletop Alliance
Thanks so much 😊
I've always been a fan of orc vs. orc violence.
Hey guys, you don't have to assign all the strikes from a character to the same model. If Aragorn has 3 attacks, he could do one to each model. You can do them one at a time, calling the target, then rolling. Yo udo ahve to resolve all of one of your model's attacks before moving onto another model, though. You can't target spearmen if they're not engaged, which I think you guys have figured out by now!
Not sure if you know this one either, but when a model is prone or trapped, you get to roll two dice for eachs strike, it's subtly different to just double the dice when you're fighting multiple models. If you were attacking two prone models, you have three attacks, so you have to do 2 to one model, and 1 to the other. It's just that for each attack you roll two dice.
Love the content, keep it up, I love the longer form stuff!
Yeah the first thing we know about? Not sure when we have done that wrong?
As for the prone thing... Im not sure what you mean? 2 Dice for each attack? So if you have 3 attacks, thats 6 dice? Which is just Double the dice? Haha. Bit confused by that.
But thanks :)
@@TheTabletopAlliance The first thing you have been doing right, yeah. there was a moment of confusion in the vid about it though, so I wanted to reinforce!
The prone thing is a little confusing, yes. The way it works is that you assign one of your three attacks to a model, then roll two dice for it, as opposed to assigning six attacks. Sorry if my explanation wasn't too clear! I hope that's better!
Edit: Maybe I'm confused about the first thing, you were confused about something I'll have to go back and check ...
@@TheTabletopAlliance he means two models are prone in one fight (eg rider of rohan vs 2 mordor orc where rider charged) he would get 2 attacks (for charging)(going off of original 2004~5 rules here, not too good on newer rules). for each attack value you roll a dice. you can assign 1 attack on each enemy, but coz they prone, you roll 2 dice to wound to = 4 dice (2 attacks + double for prone). in the above example, he has stated that aragorn has 3 attacks and has defeated 2 prone enemies. he has assigned 2 attacks to one model and 1 to another. after assigning dice, then you double those assigned dice against a prone target
Hope that cleared it up, not sure if new rules are any clearer, from what I've read, they are so basic and open to interpretation you would need an official judge on hand to always get them right
@@elladrinn4318 Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, much clearer than I did the first time, hahaha. Thank you!
Lurts: "Find the halflings! Find the the halflings!"
Lurts: "Kill these orcs! ⚔ Meat 🍖is back on our menu boys! 🍽 "
There is a rule mistake in 26:33 lurtz and berserker vs Shagrad: only the highest fight value counts, so it would have been a draw because the berserker got a 6 with Lurtz fight 5 and Shagrad mighted up to 6. PS Lurtz knows Strike
Great video as always. Where did you get the pop-up walls? I’d like some of those.
Thanks! I'm sure they were from Battle Systems 😊
Thank you1@@TheTabletopAlliance
it's always highest fight value + highest dice roll but you're only allowed to use might on the attacks of the respective hero
Easterlings need some action!
100%!!!
Great battle report again keep them comming they truly better my week! Also are the white hand hoodies/tshirts ever comming back to the store? Really wanted to buy one
Thanks so much! Umm yeah maybe. Are they definitely gone? 😅
@@TheTabletopAlliance I could't find them so maybe? :O
Is it just me or has it been a really long time since we got a LOTR battle 🔥
2 weeks :)
@@TheTabletopAlliance TOO LONG! lol
But that intro music 👀🔥
Next do the Uruk hai vs. The Easterlings.
Or maybe the Haradrim vs. The Uruk hai.
Thanks for trying to adjust to the rules. It makes it a lot easier to follow.
Trying our best :)
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:D
Shagrat is not a orc but he is a Mordor Uruk Kia that fought over the mithreal shirt at Cirith Ungol
Uruk hai are a kind of orc. Uruk is Dark Speech for orc.
@James E. Allman, Jr
Uruk Kia?
I think lurtz is D6 even with the shield cause he is also automatically equiped with a bow
Kind of a stretch but what about a battle in the scenario that Gandalf joined with Saruman? Gandalf/Saruman/other bad guys vs the rest of the fellowship/Galadriel/Elrond. Something like that could be cool but not sure how balancing the sides would work best
Yeah thats a pretty cool idea!
Can you do the battle of Moria from the Hobbit
Yeah for sure! :D
the knockdown rule affects all enemy infantry models even if one of them charged you. the only things that matters are that you charged at least one of them and that they are all normal infantry.
also worth mentioning that cavalry models cancel all charge bonuses even if the enemy cavalry models has previously charged an infantry model.
the only exception to the rule is mounstrous charge. models with that rule can knock down any model with a lower strengh value as long as they are the ones that charged their enemy. this means that enemy cavalry models lose their horses even if they aren't wounded because they are knocked prone (in case they lose the combat). wargs may stay on the battlefield if the pass a courage test but the riders aren't able to remount.
Something that i think would help some people is if you guys made a video explaining the rules
Yeah we will get to that soon :D
good game, but lurtz defense is 6 cause he has bow and shield, and u have to take the highest fight value in every combat.
Rob. Van. Damn. I'm the whole. Fucking. Show.
Hahaha
I'm afraid Lurtz is only Defence 6, even with the shield, on account of him carrying a bow!
Love your content, it's a very entertaining battle report compared to some you see online.
I believe you said Orcs move 5 inches at some point. Orcs move 6 like most other races (humans, Elves, Uruk-Hai, Trolls, Spirits etc.). Goblins and Dwarves move 5, Hobbits move 4. There are a few exceptions but the move value is always listed in their profile. flying models move 12 when they fly so most of the time you ignore their normal move value.
Yeah we realised after 🤦🏼♂️🥲
@@TheTabletopAlliance haha keep going... you learn as you go. after a while you'll know most of the rules by heart
Next time use orc trackers for archers,far better than normal orcs!
Ooh we don't have any! Will have to pick some up! :)
a good match would be good guy heroes vs bad guy heroes kinda like the fellowship vs thorins company except good vs evil
Yeah that could be fun!
I really want to get into this game. Where do I start?
Pick up the Pelennor Fields Box set. Awesome value for money, you get loads of great models and the rule book 😊
@@TheTabletopAlliance Thank you! 😁
The box set is good, but only if you want to start a Mordor or Rohan/army of the dead army. You might also try to find a second hand army. Minas Tirith and Isengard can usually be found very cheap second hand.
@@Dimanti88 I do wanna get a rohan army but thanks for the tip because I wanted to get the ones you metioned to lol
I do believe that uruk army lost this one because of bad rolls
But then again thats bit of point of the game
Also it really depends on what army you play against and with what army you play that greater numbers are better
Also prioritise is sometimes so important that its a matter of winning or losing your game
When you introduced Gothmog it took me a sec to remember that's the general dude as well. If Sauron doesn't have his ring, I'm pretty sure the Gothmog the Balrog would be the most powerful thing in middle earth in this age lol.
Frick that i think u should use home rules if you want this isnt a tournament
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get a tape measure guys plz
Lol. We have loads, just like using the middle earth measurers lol
Ok those dice rolls are getting sus as fuck. One guy is rolling non stop 4-6 and the other 1-2. Get normal dice
Lol. We change up the dice quite often. Its just how it goes some times!
Nothing wrong with your rolling, or being an Orc, it is just a crappy rules system (in terms of hitting and defeating), which is a shame as this skirmish game should play fast and furious just like in the movie combats.
Another great video guys, keep up the good work! =) Some battles that I would like to see soon are: THE BATTLE OF DALE, THE BATTLE OF MORIA and THE BATTLE OF HELM'S DEEP! As these are BIG battles, you could try a 1000 points battle to try and recreate them whilst also keeping them to a realistic size for your battle boards and the length of your videos =) Also some cool ideas for different game types that you could try for added variety are: CAPTURE THE FLAG(S), KING OF THE HILL, CAPTURE / KILL THE LEADER and CONQUER & CONTROL ALL STRONGHOLDS! =)