Justice for Jack Phillips | ADF Client Film
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2017
- Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Colorado, is not in the business of turning away any person. In fact, when two men came into his shop one summer afternoon asking Jack to design a custom cake for their same-sex wedding, Jack gave them the same answer that he would give someone requesting a custom cake for a Halloween party or bachelor party: He can’t design custom art that celebrates an event or expresses messages that conflict with his faith. But he’d be happy to create something else for them.
Shortly after that, the couple sued Jack for supposedly discriminating against them. Alliance Defending Freedom is defending Jack’s religious and artistic freedom at the U.S. Supreme Court. Learn more at JusticeForJack.org.
The fact that he is a gentle soft spoken person, you know he doesn't want to discriminate. He's just want to live his faith.
This is not about discrimination; it's about someone who was "offended" by Jack's religious beliefs. They are using the government to force Jack into a submission of conscience.
A California judge just ruled in a similar case for Tasties Bakery in Kern county, not on religious grounds but instead "free speech" or free expression. The ruling essentially says the couple would have had to be denied a cake that was "already made" instead of contracting a design. This makes perfect sense. The gay couple is essentially forcing the man/woman to create something he finds objectionable for not just gay, but straight customers to request..
Yes, call it what it is. People can't keep using religion to justify their views. The way you all spin this is ridiculous. I think a lot of you will live and live and live on this planet till you learn the ultimate lesson: love.
The Beatles tried that; it doesn't work. It only works if we love God first.
No one cares about Jack's religious beliefs unless he uses them as an excuse to discriminate against others in his business. The Religious Right's campaign against gay people is certainly odious, but you're entitled to your personal prejudices.
@@hjalmar.poelzig Jack didn't discriminate against anyone; he offered the same product to all. He also didn't bake halloween cakes; I suppose the goblins can claim discrimination.
I struggled with this case for years. Been gay myself my obvious loyalty I guess should be with the gay couple but my conclusion is 1) They targeted his shop to prove a point 2) if I were getting married the last thing I would want is someone creating something so personal who didn't support my right to marry the person I'm in love with and 3) They are persecuting his rights in exactly the same way gay people have been persecuted for years!
Everybody is not going to live the same life and have the same beliefs...ever! My philosophy is very simple, I respect everybody's right to freedom, to live their life in the way they choose (so long as it hurts nobody else) Been Gay isn't a choice and it isnt easy but the LGBT community has embarrassed and failed many of us and frankly I'm ashamed that people I'm supposed to support have put someone like Jack through such a horrendous ordeal just for having different beliefs! Please don't judge all gay people to be the same because we're not.
The thing is that, you are free to have whatever beliefs you have. The law is there to create an equality among this country's citizens. It equalizes us. The thing is, even if they wanted to prove a point, which is totally childish by the way, you are operating a business to the public. Everyone involved is being childish. Everyone. There is no good person here.
Stephen Fox Very respectful reply.
I'm happy that you being a gay person can understand that it is not right to restrict someone's freedom in such a way, forcing them to be artistic. It would be like forcing a musician to play, a poet to write or an artist to paint. It simply can not and should not be done. Jack Phillips respected them and who they are, but they didn't respect his business or his beliefs.
I believe you. And I'm very happy that you shared that bc I really hope that not everyone one is like those people that did that to him. I hope that we will never have to be threatened just bc we don't agree with other people like you for example. I want you to know that I don't agree with what you're doing or what you are but I will always respect you and love you like I will try to do with everyone else, and I hope that all people have the same respect as me to you especially we christians. I pray that you treat us the same way ❤️
Thank you.
john 15:18
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world."
jack phillips is a true hero! for the kingdom of heaven awaits him. he is a true leader for ALL Christians. when your faith is tested STAND BY WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
So your saying even though gays are hated by the world that its okay Jesus was hated too :o. And he choose us to be alive. So its okay to be gay thanks
@@b.r.1791 You clearly don't understand the meaning of the scripture😂😂
"If the world hates you, keep in mind it hated me first"
Jesus is saying there "if the world hates you for believing in Me, keep in mind it hated Me first"
You do NOT believe in Jesus because you live your life in sin & do NOT repent for it.
And if you actually read the Bible, then you'd know God hates 🌈 people.....because He killed them all in Soddom and Gomorrah
So.....nice try😂😂😂😂
100% behind you Jack. God will see you through this persecution.
I'm sorry this happened to you and your your family Jack. Stay strong in the Lord brother!
I'm so happy for him. So glad he won his case. He seems like a great nice and humble human being. God Bless you sir. He will honor you.
Yeah. Agree.
Thank you for supporting Jack!! In God we trust!!!! Let us hold EVERYONE up in prayer 🙏🏼 thru such a time as now...
Jack did the right thing like the three young Hebrews did to the king NEBUCHADNEZZAR with the abominable golden statue.
Gay people have the same right with everyone. Jack have the right to refuse service to someone who asked him to do something that goes against his belief and faith.
Just go somewhere else.
Those gays were like the king who forced the 3 Hebrew men to bow down, they forced him to support they're gay wedding, great example, as a result they hurled them into the firey pit but survived, as a result with Jack, he lost several relationships but in the end he got help amazing lesson about sticking to your guns
Delano Igba
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It is apparent that this gay men did not really want only a wedding cake. Else, they would have quietly gone to another baker to bake their cake. They went to this Christian baker to pick up a fight with the intent to persecute him, and if possible bankrupt his baking business with the ensuing legal battles. This is not an end but just a beginning. You can't, in trying to give certain individuals their peculiar freedom, trample on the freedom of others.
I am a Christian that believe all creation was created by God. The same God did not only create the first humans (Adam and Eve) to exist on the earth male and female, but instituted marriage to be a conjugal union between a man and woman; male and female. Through this union of marriage between a male and female, humans have procreated over the years to cover the earth.
If two men, or women want to marry each other and the state has granted them the legal grounds to do that, I have no problem with it. I will not go to their wedding to tell them I do not believe in what they are doing because I want to respect the state law. But I will have a problem if they want to use the state's ant-discriminatory laws against gay marriage to force me to render service for them to do what I believe is a violation of a sacred institution that God Himself instituted - most especially if the service they are trying to force me to render is under a private business that I am running.
In my opinion, this gay men persecuted this Christian masterpiece wedding cake designer / baker. More of these Christian persecutions are going to be happening in USA and the western world generally in the years to come.
You should sue the other party for loss of income due to their self centred actions.
Neil Yakuza
He really should but he’s not about that vengeance and hate filled life he appears more like the type that would forgive and forget unlike this couple that threw a hissy fit because someone hurt their feelings which is ironic because they want to make him out to be the hate filled, intolerant, homophobic, bigot
KEEP AMERICANS FREE. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, IN GOD WE TRUST.
Judy Taggerty yes.yes.yes!!!
It is an acceptable thing to do , to stop doing business with people who have expressed a christian persuasion on the internet or otherwise social media. It's time that we make the mark of the beast rEAL~ cuz you know they believe it. Hence they are not interested in humanity doing better ... they would like to see it burn down.
So no more working with anti social people ... yur done ! Bye bye ... go hang with each other in a closet. Back to the Caves Biotches ... which is when you were better christians by the way. Now your just a bunch of whiney holy er than thou ass holes. Who alot of times are hypocritical.
Gods divide people, they do not unite us. You live in a society with many religions, not just your own, and an increasing number of Americans want no part of your religion.
Keep up the good fight and protect all of our freedoms! I can’t believe they are after you again, Jack. Sending you lots of love and praying for healing from the pain this process has taken on you and your loved ones. ❤️
The couple's only interest from walking out of that cake shop that day is to become victims and try to be heroes... Didn't quite work out. He is the hero in this story.
Im gay and I support you to be honest. I can always go to someone else, I dont think you hate me my dude.
God loves you and so does this baker who just wants to keep firm in his faith.
dexter1673138 thank you, one of the nicer comments here.
dexter Thanks, Dexter. You're a refreshing voice of reason and intellect! Now, go give that message to the dingbats up above like luvdomus, jean kennedy and michael swofford! Get ready to be called a "bigot," however. Oh, wait... (LOL)
Tomas L Well said!
How can you hate someone you don't know or have just met? And do we really show hatred to someone if we don't affirm their lifestyle or choice of who they love or don't love? And why do so many label a person phobic this or phobic that when that person is neither fearful or hateful of any special group of people?
This is a travesty of justice...I support Jack.
If Jack was discriminating against LGBT, than explain to me why he refuses to create anti gay cake.
A kind, humble man who simply wants to respectively live out his faith. Thank you Lord for this beautiful example of unwavering faith in the face of adversity, and quiet strength that preservers through difficult circumstances while still showing respect and love to those who oppose or even strive to do him and his business harm.
Jack is an American Hero and an American Icon!!! May The Lord God Almighty continue to Bless and Protect Jack and his family!!!!
SCOTUS ruling 7 to 2 in favor of Phillips Masterpiece Cake shop.🎊🎉😁🗽💒
Justice prevails!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I agree with the SCOTUS, and really it should have been 9 : 0 instead of 7:2, because NO ONE should be forced to do something against his/ her beliefs. Mr. Jack Phillips is a christian that believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. Why should he has to go against his christian's beliefs?
Those two gay men set out to make an example of him. Let us be clear here, Jack did not refuse to sell them any item in the store, he refused to make a wedding cake for two men, which goes against his beliefs. If the cake was for a man and woman, Jack would have made the cake.
Why does anyone have to go against what he/ she believes in to please someone else, or the LGBTQ people?
It is very simple, the gay men could/ should have gone to another baker to have their cake made for their wedding, and choose never to go back to the store.
Then because the gay men did not get what they wanted from Mr. Jack Phillips, then people going to use death threats to force the baker to go against his beliefs.
Where is the acceptance, and tolerance for Mr. Jack Phillips, the baker from the two gay men, and the people that threatened the baker?
I support you... thank you for standing up, for speaking up, and most of all to still remember what a original family looks like.
Lots of love from Indonesia, Jack!!!
Your in my prayers jack from an artist to another, no one should force any one to do something they don't want to do. If I could give money to keep your business and keep creating I would. Don't give up creating.
Jack, Stand Fast my friend, more support you than those who don't ! strength in numbers and Gods blessings !!!
I'm so glad the case was won! Let's support the re-establishment of his business! To God be the glory!
We got your back Jack. Our prayers are with you and your family! God is blessing you!
I support this baker all the way!
No one should be able to force him to do something that conflicts with his religion.
so i should be forced to come to your aid if you are in car wreak is that right becouse of religion becouse i would'nt bigot
Sam S. Not having a cake at your wedding is not a risk of life.
Jean: It is the attitude supporting comments like yours that pushed the court to their decision. Keep up the good work.
I did. And you continue with your hate.
You can't stop can you.
GOD BLESS YOU ELDER JACK, Am real convicted by the Sermon God Has preached through a sincere servant Jack, Your unconditional humbleness has proved it all that indeed you're God's extension of love.. we'll keep on praying for you and family.
I am with Jack. As a paralegal, I know what is at stake. I hope Freedom of Speech, with the right of artistic expression wins the day. Glad Alliance Defending Freedom is repenting Jack Phillips. He is in good hands. Carpe diem!
What is at stake: The government shall not compel an individual to go against his sincerely held conscience.
This made me cry. No one should be forced to make something for your matters. It is his religion.
Someone refusing to make your wedding cake is not the end of your life.
oh Jack. We love you man. Please please tell your dear wife that you arent alone. I am a baker from Australia so i know what your passion is. Good will come out of this. Baking and artistry is a difficult call. It requires total devotion.We are watching for you to be vindicated. You are lovely people and know that the stand you have taken is a godly one.
Support you totally Jack !! May God keep blessing you with your right to express your gift! And your beliefs 🙏🏻
There is no *redefining marriage* , it's between a man and a woman. This man is an inspiration.
@Kenneth Bowers absolutely
I could imagine Jack will create the wedding cake in heaven, when Christ will be reunited with His Bride. Bless your heart, brother!
Praying for you and your family Jack, what you have gone through is so unreal.
Bottom line , your business, your rules.
Charlie and David, are you proud of yourselves? It will be interesting to watch the viciousness of your inevitable divorce.
@Jean Kennedy - just one thing here Jean regarding your misquote of Jesus. You failed to point out that He forgave the women caught in adultery and told her to go and sin no more. He did not support her being stoned to death. That said your comment about Jesus supporting death to someone who commits adultery is without merit. That is a misquote. Respectfully.
@Jean Kennedy - you did not respond to the point I made about the woman caught in adultery who was brought before Him. He did not uphold Leviticus. He forgave her for her sin and said go and sin no more. Yes it was in Leviticus. It is not in the New Testament. Regards
@Jean Kennedy - Though Jesus did not explicitly condemn homosexuality (though He actually did, as will be noted shortly), that certainly could not be used as evidence that He condoned the practice. For instance, where does Jesus explicitly state that bestiality is wrong? Where in the New Testament does Jesus state that polygamy is wrong? Where are the “words in red” that specifically condemn pedophilia? Are we to suppose that the Son of God condoned using crystal meth because there is not an explicit statement from Jesus’ mouth that says “do not smoke crystal meth?” The idea that silence from Jesus on a subject means He approved of or condoned the practice cannot be substantiated.
It must be considered that Jesus did, in fact, speak against homosexuality. On numerous occasions, Jesus condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew 19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19). These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly what God views as a morally permissible marriage. He stated:
Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:4-6).
By defining marriage as between one male and one female, Jesus effectively condemned all other arrangements, including but not limited to one man and two women, one woman and two men, three men and one woman, three men and three women, one man and one man, one woman and one animal, etc.
@Jean Kennedy - Jean, God made us male and female. That is clear in Genesis and clear in the New Testament. We were all made perfect to start with and we made the decision, not God, to do it our way (sin). God did not make people to be gay. And with that science has made it clear that it is not genetic and it violates anatomical design and function. Reference a book on anatomy from a medical library Also, you did not respond to what I said on Jesus not specifically speaking to homosexuality as sin. Just because Jesus did not condemn the practice of homosexuality did not mean he approved it. It must be considered that Jesus did, in fact, speak against homosexuality. On numerous occasions, Jesus condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew 19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19). These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly what God views as a morally permissible marriage. He stated: Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:4-6). By defining marriage as between one male and one female, Jesus effectively condemned all other arrangements, including but not limited to one man and two women, one woman and two men, three men and one woman, three men and three women, one man and one man, one woman and one animal, etc.
@Jean Kennedy - Wow, God comes here as Jesus, lives the perfect life, dies on the cross for the forgiveness of everyone's sins, and you state he is not an expert on marriage? LOL. The God of the universe not an expert on marriage? LOL. Secondly, you choose to live in the Old Testament and ignore Jesus (God) in the New Testament, deeming him some inadequate human being on the matter of marriage and sexual conduct. is matter and that the Old Testament has the final say. That is not the case. Your repeated reference to the death penalty is not in the New Testament. Adultery is addressed as sin in both testaments, with Jesus making it clear that death for the adulterer (i.e. stoning) no longer is valid with Him coming here and dying on the cross for the forgiveness of sins. Also, just because all you quote in the Old Testament is mentioned there (i.e. multiple wives and concubines) does not mean God gave his stamp of approval on it. Old and New make it clear sex is to be confined to marriage and that marriage is between one man and one woman. And though he never directly states homosexuality as wrong, he never states it as right. Finally that is a very intolerant, hateful thing to say that male and female is only for reproduction. Very intolerant. I can assure you that my marriage to my wife goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond that. LOL. In addition, it is physically natural, complementary between penis and vagina. Same sex can never be. That right there illustrates the sham of same sex relations and that is a fraud. Regards.
We need to put a GO FUND me for him. He's lost a of income since those 2 attention seekers messed up.his business
www.adflegal.org/enough-is-enough/donate
Since he's in court again, I found something similar
Good on your Alliance for going to the aid of a faithful man. So happy to see the outcome in Jack's favor
I don't know what you've been smoking - BUT THE DECISION HASN'T BEEN DELIVERED YET. It's expected at the end of the Supreme Court's term at the end of June 2016.
He knew he is right to refuse them
Ahh I like this comment section. :) lots of people with hearts
People want their right respected yet refuse to respect yours. It's horrible and I'm so sorry for you all. Remember our treasure is in heaven and Jesus said to be happy when we are persecuted for him. I can't imagine that it's easy, but I'll be praying for you continually. Be strong and lean on Jesus. He is your rock.
May Jack have a FULL recovery for his business. God Bless.
@JackPhillips what an awesome man. My heart ♥️ is with you and your family and your business. I will start praying 🙏🏻 for you, for your family, for your business. Also for those that are attacking you, to stop 🛑 them, to restrain them and it is just so extremely sad that we are losing our freedoms in the country that used to be all about freedom.
God Bless You for Your Courage and for Standing for God’s Principles. You are a rare gem 💎 nowadays. Kind of Daniel and Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, they were the only ones that didn’t bow and didn’t follow the world for fear of them, instead trust and have faith in The Lord. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
My dear brother in Christ, you are standing up for God and He is with you! God ordained marriage, not man.
We will all be going to the wedding of all royal weddings soon, "The Wedding Supper of the Lamb." Time is short, judgenent has started. Jesus is coming very soon. Your reward will be great in The Kingdom of Heaven. God bless you 💖
Jack Philips, thats a real hero.
What are your other heroes-- George Wallace? He also upheld discrimination.
In the 1960s and 1970s there was a mass movement for people’s rights: feminists, lgbt, race, etc. Now there is a fight for the right to believe in what you thing is right. Those beliefs are being further and farther away taken from us as American society becomes more and more secular, shying away from religion. God bless you jack and God bless anyone who believes and sticks to them no matter what.
Jack's reward is in heaven...everything else is so temprerory ..god bless you jack!!
I cannot believe some of the people commenting on this video. They keep talking about how Jack and his business discriminates against gay people. If you watched the video, you should have heard all the times they said it wasn't the people, it was the cake! They didn't want to do something that conflicted with their values.
Congratulations Jack 👍
Amazing, how the gay community would do this to him. Instead of going to another shop. Yet, they talk about peace and love!
Jonny Sevent The fact of the matter...nobody is better than the other but humans sure stride to keep it going with each other don't they! Always finding reasons ways to cause conflict with one another.Until somebody or group declare a so called "victory" When in hindsight you was no better the moment you started the argument!
Jonny Sevent says the guy who has absorbed the lessons on morality from societal tenants that Christianity has erected.
Study the case, Jack acted as a complete gentleman towards the gay couple.
Jonny Sevent "Christianity pretends that they invented morality" we don't, but we have practiced it and introduced guidelines to a virtuous life. Christianity itself is a marriage between Hebrew script and aristolean philosophy and the multiple catchechism of the church. the dominance of the church during Europe's formative years have enveloped its societies with Christian philosophy and most nations who were direct derivatives of Europe owe much of its practices and social doctrines to the church. The doctrine of monogamous marriage, coveture, familial piety, laws regarding statements done in confidence, perjury, and a majority of natural law which owes much to its existence to Christian scholars law Augustine and Aquinas.
Jonny Sevent and I care how Jack acted because I'm not an insipid hypocritical bigot who'll lay judgement without understanding the particulars of the case. You have essentially acknowledged that you are forming your opinions on your perceived notions and prejudices rather than the facts of the case.
Jonny Sevent and what's the unjustified claim? That the man cannot personally design a cake advocating gay marriage? He offered them any of his pre-made cakes instead yet they stubbornly refused and threatened to sue him.
He was cordial and gentlemanly, never was aggressive to the couple and asked that they should respect the limitations of his beliefs and offered them a different kind of service in compesention.
Yet we are supposed to act as if Christians aren't allowed to hold and practice their beliefs.
"Not-christian-sense", is something that you cannot sure ascertain as the culture you are born into has already infused itself with Christian philosophy and ideals. The time you acknowledge that faithful monogamous relationships are good is you already acting on Christian philosophy. The time you believe that mercy is better granted than complete domination, the time you refrain from lust, gluttony, wrath, sloth, envy, pride, and greed or viewed these characteristics as destructive is already you kowtowing to Christian philosophy.
There are multiple cultures that venerates or accepts pederasty, or child marraiges, or bigamy/polygamy, or lust, etc. The reason why our culture is different from theirs stems mostly from our heritage as a Christian nation.
I would be saddened if he didnt want to make me a cake, they are truly a work of art. Having said that, you can't force someone to make something for you, it is not your right to have a costum-made cake.
He may not fully appreciate this right now but his decision to stay firm in his beliefs has had and will continue to have a ripple effect throughout the world.
Straight adult couples always being the only good couples ever, No valid exception.
Jack's beliefs are not being violated in any way. If they hadn't told him, he'd never know. Using religion to discriminate (indiscriminately, because he wouldn't know if it wasn't mentioned or they omitted the details) is not religious freedom. His freedom is intact because he isn't being forced to marry a man. Hasn't he made cakes for liberal democrats who are pro choice, unknowingly? What are the chances that that discussion would ever arise in the purchase process? Isn't it likely that he has sold cakes to plenty of gays, unknowingly? Could he sue a client who he discovered bought one of his cakes without disclosure of sexual preference? Hoping SCOTUS gets it right.
Yes, that is why this case is beyond stupid. It's just a bunch of childish adults walking around like "I know you are but what am I." Pathetic. And these are the adults. I hope the next generation is different. I can't wait till these attitudes phase the hell out. It's just a cancer to the world.
Lots of prayers sending your way!!!💕
Your a Great man Jack. Never stand down. God Bless.
The music is a nice creative touch
Really sad he and his family have had to go through all of this all because he dared to have a belief that disagrees with some people's views. He wasn't hurting anyone and didn't turn anyone away. That's very different than declining an individualized contract such as making a wedding cake. No law says every time a customer makes an offer for a custom cake you must accept it. That would be nonsense. Honestly seeing jack and his family fight so hard I would choose his business over another in Colorado if I lived there. Someone who cares that much about their convictions they're willing to fight and risk everything for it, that's a good person to have in your corner
If I confess to you that I'm a nazi and I want to buy guns or if I go to a jewish synagouge and demand their synagouge to house my muslim marraige. These people should be able to refuse service.
There's a difference when talking about private and public institutions, In public institutions your teachers can't deny students certain topics, In private ones, they can, nor could a doctor who's hospital fees are payed for by the government, Taxi drivers refuse riders all the time, some even for petty things like their clothes or behavior. Anything you own, should be yours, and that means that if you own a service or business, you have the right to do what you want with the business or service provided that it doesn't hurt anyone. Refusing someone a cake because of their religious beliefs didn't hurt them.
and yes, we already deny people certain services based upon race and sexuality, Affirmative action, gender specific programs and schools, religious schools, disability-specific programs, etc. We exclude sections of populations when we commit to these programs yet its perfectly fine in the law.
They're forcing them to make a cake for an event they don't want to participate in, If I said that I want you to make a cake for my KKK meeting, I would expect you to have the right to refuse.
+Piper Vail - You are challenged to substantiate your ill-claim that Jack Phillips declined to create the cake because they were gay. Thank you.
+Piper Vail - He declined the request to created the cake for the message that he was asked to create (same-sex marriage), regardless the sexuality of the individuals who made the request. Anyone could have asked for the same cake and Jack would have declined. Otherwise, he offers the same exact service to all regardless of their sexuality. This is well documented. Thank you.
Jerry Krause
Who OTHER than a gay couple would request a wedding cake for a SAME-SEX wedding?
Clear cut discrimination.
You parrot ADF's terrible talking points very well though.
+Party Hearst - You said it yourself and seemingly do not even realize it. It is undisputed that the exchange between Jack and the couple lasted maybe 30 seconds; that Jack politely declined, explaining that he would gladly make them any other type of baked item they wanted, but that he could not design a cake promoting same-sex because of his faith. See, Supreme Court blog: www.scotusblog.com/…/wedding-cakes-v-religious-beliefs-pla…/. Nor is it disputed that Jack is a Christian who closes his business on Sundays and declines to design other cakes that conflict with his religious beliefs-for example, cakes that contain alcohol, have Halloween themes or celebrate a divorce. Id. In other words, it is all about the cake; not who requested it. Thank you.
I support LGBT and was raised by a gay couple and we all support the Baker. My parents said they would have thanked him for his time and just left.
What an incredible man. God bless you Jack.
yeh! supreme court decision! what a lovely, godly man serving God. I destest how they have tried to take the symbol of the rainbow over which is God's covenant to us. God is not mocked.
God bless you and your family,....
As a Christian, I'm seeing more and more hatred for the faith . . . but then, Jesus did say to expect it (John 15; Mt. 10, Mark 13) and John said "don't be surprised" by it (1 John 3). Praying for Jack and those under similar persecution. The supreme court ruling is only supreme as far as US borders are concerned. God is the Supreme Judge, and under his authority every knee will bow. Would love a victory here, but looking forward to the guarantee of victory to come! #comelordjesus
"God is the Supreme Judge, and under his authority every knee will bow."
This is why religion continues to lose the argument. As long as the religious in our society continue to pretend that the deity they worship is "supreme", whether that deity is Krishna, or Baal, or Zeus, or Yahweh et al, civil law will continue to win court cases.
It is no small wonder that our criminal court system includes verdicts of "guilty, not guilty, and not guilty by reason of insanity"...end of list. There is no "god told me to"; the Abrahamic religions would love to have that included, yet there is no civil court in this great country that will allow it. Ever wonder why that is?
Only your narrow religious-indoctrinated world-view is in danger of being destroyed.
Well, you just wait til Zeus gets wind of this. You'll be burning in a lake of fire, for sure.
You're just making it worse for yourself. Repent now while there's still time and I may put in a good word for you with Odin.
Time's running out. Better repent now, and Vishnu will perhaps be pleased with your sacrifice. Oh, and learn to spell god's name. You've been warned.
God bless you for standing up for Jesus. You are honoring an audience of One and that’s Jesus 💕💝💖
"Standing up for Jesus" my ass! He is discriminating against LGBTQS!
Jesus said nothing about homosexuality, not even one word
@@GP71_OO he said it mathrew ch 19
@@GP71_OO and are you saying that a Jesus have his own different opinion than the Father ?
I want to be like him when I grow up :')
Don't let this video mislead you. Jack admits he didn't discuss any element of the same-sex cake's design. He didn't refuse based on any element of the cake's design, he refused because it was for a gay wedding. Even if they wanted a plain white cake, he would have refused. That is NOT artistic integrity as this video would have you believe, it's pure discrimination and in Colorado it's illegal.
Try using facts.
Finally heard some just comments on this
Jack is a true leader!!! He stood up for his beliefs and was immovable and unshakeable!!!
There are states, cities and towns which have laws that ban public accommodation discrimination based on sexual orientation. Businesses are public accommodations. If you choose to run a business then you have to follow the law. If you don't like the law then don't set up a business or just move to a different place where discrimination based on sexual orientation is not illegal.
Support for the baker! These LGBTQSTUVWX ... guys should order their cakes in Saudi Arabia or Iran and celebrate a great big gay wedding there too! 😊
Present day American: Forcing people to do something that is contrary their beliefs. Just sickening.
If your "beliefs" include bigotry, you should change them and the law should should encourage you to change.
An how about the government preventing white Christians from discriminating against blacks and Muslims-- is that also 'sickening?' Or is it just gays that it is OK to do that to?
Poor homophobic Evangelicals, forced to obey anti-discrimination laws and respect the rights of people they hate-- sorry, no one feels sorry for you.
Ryungun Rie We force racists to serve minorities, do you want to do away with those anti-discriminarion laws, too?
Ryungun Rie It's prejudice and discrimination that is sickening, not civil rights laws designed to protect minorities.
God bless you Jack. Pa. here. Standing up against this perversion says a lot about the man you are. They even want to take our child away any place them into their fold. This is what Satan looks like.Everyone I know is praying for you. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
why does the beliefs and choices of certain people stand and is supported by the government but others rights and beliefs are stamped down? If you have rights why don't we? it seams that some people go to places they know they are not agreed with so they can sue????
I see NO discrimination here, Mr.Phillips served these customers before ,it is only in their wedding he would not participate by baking the wedding cake. I pray our Supreme court makes the right decision .
ruclips.net/video/RgWIhYAtan4/видео.html Steven Crowder went to a Muslim bakery and asked to bake a cake for Gay couple and they refused , so it is ok but when Christians do that ,it is a civil rights issue?
+SM - Ignoring the trolls, you make many good points. Thank you.
sciencetrumpsfaith lol rather believe in that then a science that cant prove whether he is real or not 😂😂😂
S M
That 'Louder with Crowder' video has been debunked. There were no legal protections for LGBT people in Michigan at the time that was made. Plus a number of those bakeries didn't specialize in wedding cakes. One only sold bread. I thought it was the fire and brimstone bunch that hated "fake news" 😂
+Jeffrey Thiele - No need to give any thought to Sciencetrumpsfaith who is a verified troll. Of course, a "troll" is a person who breaks netiquette on a regular basis by posting inflammatory messages (called flames) when responding to other users in the forums. Trolls are also users who will find older flame-filled threads on a forum and reply to them just to get users worked up again. They may also fall into name-calling, lies and spreading fallacies. Thank you.
+SM - Just to let you know ,or if you already know then a reminder, this being your thread you can always block trolls like Sciencetrumpsfaith. He gets blocked by many. Thank you.
Can a non-Muslim customer ask a Muslim chef to cook PORK for him, and then deciding to drag the chef to court because the chef refuse to cook PORK for him even though the chef insists that touching, handling and cooking pork goes against his Islamic religion?
That's right!
He represents the way those guys will probably ever have a child. Jack is a procreator. I'm all for his decision. Those guys don't love humanity by the way they are making a huge deal about it. Victims? Try being beat to submission and not getting justice for it. Yeah, me. You don't see me on news. I have balls and believe in forgiveness. I feel terrible for Jack and his loving family. Just because he turned down a customer, doesn't mean he loves you less. He just doesn't agree or is willing to advertise it. He has the right. May God bless you Jack, for all eternity.
The couple who tried to force Jack to compromise his principles are the gruesome twosome. They come in all shapes & sizes.
Well done on your victory Jack, in the name of Christ.
When they mentioned how they received numerous phone calls after he declined to make a product not included in his product line, THAT told me that vehement LGBT DELIBERATELY targeted his business knowing he is Christian, with a Christian-based business.
And they like to call those of us who are benevolent in disagreeing with them "mean spirited."
boo hoo follow the law.
Randolph Agarn He did,
and you people can't stand it.
he is a fucking criminal
Randolph Agarn On what charge?😕
Randolph Agarn Please tell us how it is
illegal.
Look it up on google . There are 22 cake shops in Denver where Charlie and David live .They passed up all 22 shops and drove a extra 10 miles to get to Lakewood . They saw dollar signs and targeted The Masterpiece shop . Why would you pass up 22 cake shops that has no trouble at all making cakes for gay weddings ? Just ask the 22 shops in Denver where they live . All the shops said they would make cakes for same sex wedding but they went to the one they knew wouldn't . Don't be stupid people , this was all about collecting money from a settlement they thought they could get after talking to their lawyer . Once it gets out they asked the other shops and they did not turn them away people are going to realize Jack were targeted .
Anytime you put an adjective in front of the word "CAKE" it becomes a specific type of THEMED/DESIGNED cake, like wedding, birthday, Halloween, adult etc.....There are many cake shops that WONT make adult themed/designed cakes due to there policies of no derogatory and vulgar cakes that goes against there morals, values and beliefs.
Jack God bless you and your family.
Thank you, Jack Phillips. Thank you ADF. May God bless you no matter what happens. I pray that the Justices see the love, kindness, and conviction in your heart, and rule for what is right and Constitutional.
I'm with you Marco. Apparently Jack Phillips fucked his daughters - but, it's OK - just like Lot in Leviticus, he was drunk.
Thanks for your input, Lucifer.
+Marcos - They are simply being trolls and as such showing their immaturity and ignorance. On the other hand, your comment was very well stated. Thank you.
Marcos constitutional? Fuck you!! What’s constitutional here is liberty for all! That includes everyone of any religion, race, gender, disability, and sexual orientation! Don’t call yourself a Christian if you believe its okay to discriminate against LGBT because the Bible says otherwise Matthew 19:19 “Honor thy father and mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.”
Zach Kettell learn to read the constitution. The first amendment forbids the government from enacting any law regarding religion and thus allows men freedom from and freedom of practice.
This man breaks my heart, my prayers are with him.
I support you. Those guys are making people with their own belief look terrible. You are brave, true, honest, and enduring. You are very loved.
This man wasn’t refusing service of his business. Just did not want to preform” his art” on a cake because he held it sacred and the Gay couples life-style conflicted with this shop owners spiritual and or religious beliefs This gentleman has just as much right to his faith and beliefs, Just as much as the Gay couple have the right to live there life. Forcing someone to except anything they don’t won’t to by suing, is redundant and counter productive. So he’s force to paint the CAKE.
Big Deal. He still feels the same, just forced to do something against his will against something he holds dear! Where have I heard that before🤔.....Oh yeah that’s it, WWll NAZI GERMANY!!. You’ll do what we ask or we will sue and destroy ur life by making you. No thanks, just get someone else to make and design or paint the cake 🍰.
Yeah, it's called discrimination. Enough with the nice sounding argument. Call it what it is.
I'm sorry but did you just compare this to World War II?
slayerette86m then the gay couple are discriminating against a man's beliefs. 2 different views don't make it right if both parties are in effect committing the same offensive output against each individual belief. God will not be mocked.
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I honestly didn’t think the world could get any crazier. If someone does not want ur business because it clashes with their religious or personal beliefs. Find another store. Why sue and destroy lives. This does not serve the LGBTQI Community. It just makes the couple involved look malicious. 🙄
Glen Hutton because you don't get to take advantage of the infrastructure that everyone pays into, to operate your business, then deny service to gay people. What makes a black person black=science, what makes a woman a woman=science, what makes a gay person gay=science. Faith is not equitable to science. Diversity is a great thing in the world including religious diversity, but stop pretending religion and science are the same thing!
bochap21 so how is it right for gay people to be denied service that would not be ok to deny a black person, a woman when gay people also pay into the infrastructure that allows that business to operate. If you accept basic scientific premises, difference in brain patterns of gay people, pituitary gland differences, homosexuality exists amongst most animal species, how is being gay not equitable to being black or a woman, unless simply you are a bigot
Tim Auteri. I’m gay, dip-shit. Not a bigot. If someone didn’t want my business FUCK-IT. I would go else where. This bending everyone’s fingers back, because “ I’m Gay”, and “How dare U! Give me a break! The Evolution of the Gay migration has come along way and we still have a way too go, but suing people for refusing to design a cake is just stupid!! 🧚♂️
Glen Hutton what are you missing, besides critical thinking. This is not just about a cake. What if a Dr doesn't want to serve them? We all pay for roads, sewage, etc. Some of which allows their business to operate, the business serving us is a return of our investment. I did not call you a bigot I said either you buy into the science and believe gay is not a choice, it is how you are meant to be, or you are a bigot. If you buy into the science then you have to believe we deserve equal service.
Tim Auteri. I agree we deserve equal service. But I think if not served, why sue? I just feel it’s gotten ridiculous. (Critically thinking),there are other cake shops other options, rather than suing. Sometimes the Push gets ridiculous. It’s just my opinion. We are not going to debate this forever Tim. I just was thinking , rather than getting caught up in suing, and counter suing. And all that goes along with this. Instead of concentrating on the wedding 🎩. Find another Cake Shop. Just my thought. (For this situation). I get the discrimination, I get feeling of being disenfranchised. I have lived this shit for 50 years. But it’s a little man with a family and a cake shop. I just feel choose ya battles. And this seems silly to me. That’s all. 🌺
Apparently death threats aren't as bad as simply respectfully refusing to bake a certain kind of cake for a particular event.
Whatever happened to him? Any updates?
I want to get married just to order a wedding cake from him.
+Soda Pop - Your mentality is obvious. Thank you.
Soda pop ...your heart is showing! :-)
+Tewdy Quew - If we were to challenge both his education and credibility, Sciencetrumpsfaith would fail terribly with his nonsense. The fact is, he is a well known troll. Rarely does anyone acknowledge Sciencetrumpsfatih and many even block him.
A "troll" is a person who breaks netiquette on a regular basis by posting inflammatory messages (called flames) when responding to other users in the forums. Trolls are also users who will find older flame-filled threads on a forum and reply to them just to get users worked up again. They may also fall into name-calling, lies and spreading fallacies.
Thank you.
Are you saying your marriage is dependant on whether you get a cake from him?
sciencetrumpsfaith why does that matter
the gay men wanted to make him commit sacrilege... that is what they wanted! they did not want a wedding cake. the gay men wanted to make Jack commit sacrilege and in doing so attack Christ and all of us who believe! FAITH! TRUTH! BELIEVE!
Selling a cake to gay people is not committing 'sacrilege" but refusing to do so is discrimination, prejudice and bigotry.
It is sacrilege to force someone to go against his or her religious beliefs.. It is not bigotry nor is it discrimination and prejudice. Maybe a christian couple should go into a gay bakery and order a wedding cake with this on the cake! "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
People have a wide variety of religious beliefs and some use their beliefs as an excuse to dislike certain groups. that does not give them the right to discrimination in business dealings. Christians in business have been serving gay people for generations, it only became a big deal in recent years when the Religious Right decided to make a 'statement' with wedding cakes and urged their followers to deny service to gays. This is not a religious principle it is a petty act of ideological spite. If you want to be truly Christians, treat everyone fairly in business and private life.
again it is NOT discrimination and the gay couple chose to go to the christian baker to make him commit sacrilege! There is not two ways about it! They thought it would be a "cake walk" and that the court with agree with them and they would stop this man from expressing his religious beliefs thereby forcing him to commit sacrilege. I will bet they would have celebrated and laughed at all christians if the court agreed with them as they have in the past! This is why people are turning on gays. In order to have religious beliefs in a rights oriented society like America you must be free to practice your religion. Forcing someone to make a cake is ridiculous! I will not entertain your view anymore. WE DISAGREE ON THIS. THAT IS ALL!
How were the gay couple supposed to know that the bakery was run by an anti-gay baker? Did he have a sign outside that said "NO GAYS"-? Don't lie and claim that the couple "targeted" him, all they did was order a cake from a baker just like any other customer would.
2 cats have destroyed this man and his family..vengence is mine Smith the lord..i will repay..they took away his business but his faith stands tall
Thank God, Jack stood by his convictions!!
I support you, Jack. I pray God protects you.
what a scam
Well he didn’t
It's bigoted men like Jack Phillips that are giving Christianity a bad name and discouraging young people from religious practice.
Jack the baker acted out of hate, not compassion. Shame on him.
Bryan 212 Jack the anti-gay baker is giving God a bad name.
Jack Phillips did not refuse to serve THEM, he refused to serve the EVENT. There is a big difference. He absolutely has a right to choose what events he will and will not use his artistic abilities for. He discussed other events that he will not create for due to his personal convictions. It's not the person, it's the message. Think about tattoo artists or a t-shirt maker, both a form of creative expression for the maker. A customer comes in, which the artist will anticipate serving (no discrimination). But then the customer asks for something objectionable to the artist, like a Nazi symbol, a black person hanging from a tree, an anti-Muslim message, an anti-gay message, a racial slur, or anything considered to be offensive nowadays. Does that artist have a say in what he or she creates? Yes!!! The government should not be able to FORCE people to create something they do not want to! If the Supreme Court rules in favor of the gay guys, this inarguably says that a creator has no control over what he or she creates. And for every person or business that refuses to create the objectionable message, there are 10 more who will be willing to do so. The free market will then decide whether that business will succeed or fail. That's called capitalism, gang. I don't understand people who think the government should have this kind of control over us. And for the people that say, "Just make the damn cake," well I say, "just go to another baker." I will pray for you and your family, Jack Phillips!
MD FABULOUS example! Air-tight logic rooted in simple, common sense.
can you put subtitle there?? that would really help me to understand this video :)
Jack philips , you’re a true Christian and hero , God bless you and your family.
Call me a homophobe, scream all you want, but i say, Jack is within his rights! Stand with Christ, and His message and let well enough alone!
Dan Kisly amen! I would rather go to jail than bow down to a gay couple. My wife and l are praying for this man, l hope he wins.
Jesus WILL have the final say!
So you are ok with a Muslim bakery refusing to serve Christians? Nobody has a right to discriminate.
That is not the case here. If I went to a Muslim bakery and requested to have bacon in the icing on my cake, I know that the Muslim baker will refuse to do it because it goes against their religious beliefs. If you ask a Christian photographer to do some photography work for a porn movie, they are also going to refuse to do it because it goes against what we believe. it is that simple.
Joel Rodriguez no he said his Christian beliefs are core why he refused
God did say we will be persecuted for our belief stay strong cause even if the gays win ultimately there will be judgment. God will bring justice for your faithfulness in him
Omg, no. Stop. Please. Don't poison yourself with these views. You guys are not being persecuted. Please. We are all on the same planet. We need to share this space together. Persecution is being rounded up.
Omg, no.
Read Gods word what they are doing to him is wrong they. And you know even though I’m a devout Christian I still have gay friends that agree they are being persecuted for their beliefs they can easily go to another they just want money .my gay friend got married invited me but I didn’t go cuz I don’t support gay marriage and you know what he knew that and he didn’t mind we still are excellent friend to this day
I bet hell is fabulous 🌈
slayerette86m CHristians have been perseceuted from thr begining of times and its no different now. Plus it says so in our Bible. You must not be a Christian. So please keep.SHUT.
margarita payne good job, Maragarita for staying true to your beliefs! Going to that nasty wedding will be co signing thrir sexual deviant lifestyle
If people haven’t noticed yet, the entire world has become a classroom...each day is bringing a new lesson about God and how we each understand Him. Watch and be utterly amazed...
A Muslim from Malaysia here. I fully support the baker. Nobody in the world should force him to do anything against his Christian religious faith. Anybody of any faith anywhere in the world should not be forced to do anything against his faith