FF16 With No Cooldown Is A Different Game
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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It's not game-breaking. It just makes Clive lore-accurate.
THIS!!!
Clever way to explain a mod 😅😅😅😅
@@educationiskey3331Stupid how consoles have none.
It's totally game breaking
Not game breaking😂😂😂😂 bro is still taking while for these basic enemies with his special moves so not that crazy
Utlima : ... I may have gone overboard on making Mythos strong.
Oh...
Oh really? What was the first clue?
Which is ironically the story of his life.
@@onyxzdx1519Ultima: “In hindsight,removing cooldowns for some of the most powerful magical abilities in existence… was a mistake.”
@@OtaldeMaciel😂😂😂
Lore accurate Clive
What in the Devil May Cry 5
Only if this game has style ranking
It was created by the devil may cry combat director 😂
My thoughts exactly
@@Anarkyfloyd Only in secondary challenges is there a ranking system
Devil may fantasy .
Devil May Clive
Dominant May Cry
Devil May(be) Clive
Clive May (is) Cry(ing)
Sparda's hidden 3rd son.
Bought time we found a third son. All I ever see is Vergil's many illegitimate daughters and occasionally sons. Sometimes I think I find a son of Dante but they turn out to be just a fanboy.
SWOR-TRIC-SWOR-TRICK-GUNS-SWOR-GUNS-TRICK-ROYAL-GUN-SWORD-DARKSLAYER!
(Whahooo)
Damn the way this mod fully completes the Itsuno DMC combat style 😍
now if only if there was a mod to let us have more than 3 eikons in combat
@@dekaynine6347and style meter
@@dekaynine6347I’d kill for that
@@dekaynine6347 and make the abilities be input related like dmc instead of pressing to use abilities ;;
@pekostudio yeeees that's what I'd love to see the most, I'm so sick of newer character action games abandoning this design philosophy. I love 16 but this and the cool down are two things I'd def change
now this is devil may cry Final Fantasy
Fantasiless Zone Zero
Clive be like after the combo video: Turns into Stone
The Fans: "Clearly it's an ambiguous calcification because Clive WILL return from that. 🤓"
It could be easily the most ingenious spoiler I've ever read this year, haha
*STAAAAAR LIIIIIIIIIIiiiiIiiiIGHT SAAAY GOODNIIIiiiIiiiIIiIIIIGHT*
🌠🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌
I don't want to live where an Imperial Captain could survive being juggled in the air by a literal God wielding all kind of elemental powers for a straight minute.
Everyone in FF16 is a tank with tons of HP
There's probably a mod for damage scaling out there. Too bad all JRPGs throw damage sponges at players instead of quality enemies.
Don't use the term god just say anything else
@@thechugg4372 everyone if FF in general. And it is even kind of canon with some cinematic stuff and movies that came later. (except some cases) People in FF worlds are just built different in general
@@user202-gp9fjgod damn boy.
It’s crazy how much that changes the gameplay. They should have done MP or SP instead of cool downs if they wanted to balance it.
Or simply not balance it at all since that makes the game more fun. Nothing about DMC4 Dante was balanced and he was hands down the peak of the genre back then, and then he spawned DMC5 Dante and Pandora's box was opened. Developers need to unleash their imagination not meticulously research how to curb the players' balls.
@ytnukesme1600 dmc4 dante has 3 gauges to manage, and 5 adds another one as well as a delay on jump cancels and a cancel that requires SSS
Honestly yeah Mp and SP should have been a thing. Don't agree with the guy on top we need more RPG mechanics not less.
What are you talking about? This was only possible because of a mod. The combat is balanced.
@@Tangvu reread my comment, I think you misunderstood my point.
I hated the cooldown mechanic. I'd much prefered if we had something like this, where maybe using the same attack in a combo scales it's damage, or maybe each attack depletes your mp and you have to deal damage to regen magic. I dunno, but this seems way more fun
Should've been default ngl
So you like comboing forever without actual challenge or any rhythm in the combat? So pathetic lol, even DMC has more variety compared to this shit
This would get old soooooo fast without cooldowns
@@tomaszsotysik9438 It still got old for me though, not hating or anything cause I think the base is pretty solid, but it feels more like dmc1 than dmc3 if you know what I mean
@@tomaszsotysik9438 This gets old the first 2 minutes, the people that enjoy it often happen to be people that didn't bother playing hack and slash games of the past, any of the first god of war games does what this game does 10x better.
We have "rpg" mechanics for no absolute reason in this game, they only act as numbers for the sake of seeing them instead of them having any actual impact to how the game plays.
We have no actual combo mechanics and the air combo starter is absolute clunk fest compared to the most basic press triangle hold from the FIRST god of war installment in the WHOLE series, we unlock grab attacks 25 FUCKING HOURS in the game, we have grab attacks in god of war at the VERY START, the limit break is literally absolutely NOTHING new, it just looks flashy.
This game gets old WAY TOO fast at the beginning either way, any guy saying "get rid of CD's" in this case is right, if they got rid of eikonic abilities CD's, implemented an actual combo multiplier system, and a bar that you could use as MP, and didn't fucking abandon any sort of REAL party system, this would've at least had the chance to call itself a itteration of ff 7 remake combat but on the latest ff.
How can people be so delusional about how utterly fucking mediocre this game's combat is, I cannot for the life of me fathom ANY reason at all to enjoy this.
The story was probably the only good thing about this game and even that fucking drags, what a fucking joke that people actually enabled the devs to make some garbage like this next year.
Dante : the floor is lava challenge ?
Clive : Sure
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
That JUDGEMENT CUT at the END was the cherry on top
Yes it's Devil May Cry 6.
To quote Barnabas:
"Your body does not answer for its avarice."
How this game should have been designed. Now we need a mod that allows you to equip all abilities at once and rebalances the ultimate attacks.
Also a mod that changes Clive regular sword combos and movements entirely in style of other eikons, like Odin sword combos. And of course RPG mod revamping gear progression, crafting system, and finally having damage types and resistances.
I was so sad when I got my 4th Eikon and realized I had to pick only 3.
That's just too much power Clive holds.
Having access to all 8 eikons at once is just overkill tbh. I get the idea, but for a lot of the time, you’d just be fumbling between the eikons and it could be really clunky to make work.
Could be more like a "set switch" button, where you can completely switch to a different loadout mid battle
Now we need a mod that allows us to use all of the movesets
what do you mean? - Someome who havent touched this game yet
@@AssassinXMod the game only allow you to use up to 6 moveset slot as you can see in the bottom right corner
Lore accurate Mythos mode
There's like 40 good luck with that
some crazy autist is working on that as we speak, trust me
Using Clive the mythos way makes him look terrifying
looked kind of dull to me. not using any of the cool flashy powers.
Noctis: our Battle Will be Legendary !
Either THIS should've been the standard gameplay, or they should've impletented the ATB Meter System, if they wanted to balance it out.
Cooldowns suck the fun out of it and force you repeated combat with Clive's sword. It wouldn't be a problem, if Clive at least had more weapons to use, than just his sword and his 12 moves with it.
All four eikonic skills should've been available at all times. There's no reason to leave out R2 + X and R2 + O, besides the obligatory RPG identity.
An "Eikon-Wheel" for all 9 Eikons is more than managable, Dante in DMC5 prooved how circling through 7 weapons is no problem. The RPG identity is most likely the reason for having only three at a time.
Combo variations like Nero has in DMC would've allready made a huge difference in making the combat less stale
Find the Flame.... but! Song is performed by Casey Edwards and Victor Borba.
So basically find your flame from Sonic Frontiers
@@Xerzene NGL when I first read that title ingame that's what I thought of. Not sure what'd make a better AMV for Clive, Find Your Flame, or Avenged Sevenfold's Shepherd of Fire, I got hit the other day reflecting on the lyrics "I am your Wrath, I am your Guilt, I am your Lust", and from that perspective Titan and Garuda feel a lot like Wrath and Lust, lol.
Whole DMC chars: finally a strong opponent that is not Bayonetta
Cause they know they not beating Bayonetta 😭
Now this makes me want to buy the game again on PC. Now it it truly Like Devil may Cry and Kingdom hearts zipping around.
Now spam Will o' the Wykes and you're invincible.
That one should have a cooldown still, too OP unleashed lol.
i desperately need a mod for more than 3 eikons, imagine the combos....
Great combo vid bro. Imagine being able to do this to certain bosses (your size) in-game. That would've been pretty cool😮
itd be cool if there was a mechanic called "eikon trigger" that just deactivated cooldowns for a few seconds and you could charge it back up with good combat.
Amazing, for a moment i thought that i saw Vergil there, being 100% motivated
Now we just need a combo mod that let's you use all eikons at once.
I get why they added the Cooldown, but honestly by the time you beat Bahamut it barely matters anymore. I say after you beat Odin take all the limiters off and let us become as gods.
Mimics half of KH2/3 combat, mimics 1/4 of Devil May Cry combat. Awesome.
That’s the point
@@FagatronUchiha it’s just an observation of something super awesome that makes me look at it in awe
Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry series
Final Fantasy : The big chungus
Yep lol. I played the PS5 version last year. Now I'm replaying on PC with no cooldown and the combat is ridiculous lmao
WeMod?
@@Seraphim_1172 Who uses WeMods? Usually for PC Games it's Nexus or Gamebanana.
@@Seraphim_1172Yup
idk how a normal person sees clive fight and think "yea i can take him"
1:11
I am the Storm that is approaching.
I WAS FULLY HOPING FOR THIS!! What a missed opportunity for a true hack and slash experience
My guy taking attacks from every single Eikon and living for that long is a compliment to how strong those Soldiers actually are
its like dark soul without stamina bar is a different game.
Close enough, welcome back Devil May Cry 6
Honestly can’t wait to see all the mods that will be made for this game.
People:" Oh no there is cooldown"
Parry master: " What cooldown are you talking about ?"
From Clive to Dante
I think the real credit should be given to the Imperial Captain for taking as much of a beating as he did.
I'm not complaining about cooldowns, but it's really a shame that basic sword moves are so limited. I wouldn't mind for example three different combos on ground and two aerial combos.
At that point, you need to add a DMC combo rank system which doesn't reward the same string twice.
Sepheroth: How does it feel to have a fraction of my power?
CalebCity as one of the imperial legionaries: "You must be the main character huh? Run them hands!"
If the combat was more like this, I would have enjoyed FF16 a lot more
Cooldowns clearly held the combat back, looks waaaaaay better
It should have input based attacks like dmc rather than CD based.
one of the descision made with casuals in mind. Like game's overall difficulty and "help" accessories
@@zenixvampirchik652 yeah most likely but it feels bad to play an action game with CD based skills
Finally makes the game's combat semi-playable
My personal game of the year 2023. Will get it on PC asap!
Tying this to a KH mp bar would do wonders I wonder if that’s too much though
They could have done this and added an mp system to not make it feel too op. It looks majestic regardless
Mind y’all, Ryota Suzuki ,the combat director for DMC 5 worked on this game…
If FF16 was made by Platinum Games.
They actually helped making the game. U know the clashes between eikons like Ifrit vs Bahamut and such? Well they worked on that
The issue with a mod like this, as unbelievably cool as it is, is that it only further trivialize the enemies who couldn't keep up with Clive at all even with cool downs. Now they may as well just be punching bags.
There's a mod for that as well. Look up modular combat rebalance.
Give modders another year to cook and this will be a completely different experience.
Ultima be crying if he saw
Bro. The most beautiful thing about the different worlds in ff is not having to remember what happened in the prior game 😢
Ultima has been real quiet since this dropped
Pretty cool and honestly I would not mind it being part of the actual game. Hmm abilities that stop time, I would only make them have cooldown example the "odin" ability. It's more like a ultimate lol.
well the mod seems to attempt to replicate the slasher feel.
In those kind of games instead of CD "ultimate" attacks have some kind of activation condition, more often than not tied to some Power BAR needed to be filled with energy or whatever.
And game already has Limit Break bar which is traditionally was used in FF for some cool and powerful attacks/moves
honestly, the game would have been completely balanced if it had an MP system that regens like stamina, sharing a cooldown pool to manage between all of the abilities would make the game way more balanced, thus an actual RPG.
lower enemy HP, give more attacks with more nuanced mechanics to dodge and such, attacks that need to be parried or blocked. make enemies more lethal and larger longer lasting combo attacks that require more precise dodges instead of just dodging AOEs and walking.,
The game doesn’t need a MP system, just remove the cool down and nerf the damage output, It could’ve worked better if it was straight up an action game
@@FagatronUchiha cool down is fine, you just need access to all the eikon abilities at once, that's the problem
@@eclisis5080 exactly. Or at least have two main sets you can switch in combat. Both with three eikons.
no, go play rpg game or any other game
Or have cool down still, but be able to use a powered down version of the skill during cool down period
I wish after beating the game or dong a certain hard challenge there was a accessory that gave you no cooldowns
It's a better game, hands-down. The cooldowns are such a huge limiter on how expressive you can be with your combos, especially when it comes to air combos. Modding them away *does* make the game a little too easy for normal difficulty, but it feels great in Final Fantasy mode.
Honestly I've always thought these types of super long cooldowns are a shit mechanic especially in the stylish action/hack and slash subgenre, and I was really surprised to see them in a game where a former lead designer of Devil May Cry ( a game with no "cooldowns" longer than like 15 frames) was in charge of combat.
totally, i would've taken fighting style controls over the slow burn waiting for you abilities to return.
waiting is as easy, as being able to spam abilities.
if you would want to say "earn the moves" then it would make more sense to make it special button cominations, like in a devil may cry game.
and it's not like it's hard to evade the enemies, until your abilities have regend, it's just time wasting.
and in some cases, you can make some cominations of skillsets, which count down exactly in a row so that you can almost spam them anyway.
once i was done, i was especially done cause there was no depth in the battle system, cause 6 moves and your 2 or 3 basic combos.
with this, i'm really thinking about just playing hard mode like that, so that i can try out diffrent sets of builds in a fun way.
ok thats Devil may cry
Honestly, if they did this and balanced it by adding an MP system, I would love the gameplay in this game even more
They shoudve put the combat abilities on button combinations and put the buffs and ultimates as the trigger abilities 😭😭😭 They could’ve easily made it so you could access your entire moveset 😭
Yes the combat of FF16 better than FF VII
Now he fights like someone worthy of the peoples fear
me getting this power: spams gigaflare constantly
hoping for mods that lets u equip more eikons and skills
6 is too little
Guard: I thought he was a Bearer, how is he doing this?
Soldiers: We're out here getting styled on!
I want a Ifrit Ultimate form that lets you turn into Ifrit.
Now, is a true Devil May Cry game 😅
It's really a good Final Fantasy games if they doesnt mess up about "cooldown" thing.
Is there a download for this mod?
The suit mods for this game is great might have to buy it just for that
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROOAACH- ah wait, wrong game.
This is how i thought the game was gonna be plus all abilities on command at once
They could have made it so the ultimate attacks had cooldowns but everything else didn't
Devil May Fantasy has arrived!!!
Yeah. The CD system is bullshit. It feels so limiting.
Thats the point 😂
@@RR-ze1kmand a very dumb point at that
I'm shocked to see so many people say this. I definitely prefer it to having an MP bar or something and it's not hard to manage at all unless you're just spamming skills
Whats this game should have been:
Ever try fighting wlemental slimes without knowing how? It’s not fun. Immune to most stuff except the matching element or something and i didn’t have any elements on my weapons or anything lol.
where to get this cooldown mod?
Uhm why is it so damn blurry? I need whole lot more pixels.
What’s that other element? Is that Ultima power?
Dmc 5 Style battle
Though i am happy to see dmc combat director joined square enix. But also sad to know dmc itself is now in limbo itsuno san left, matt walker left, combat director joined square. Than what about dmc?😢😢😢😢
Now mod in playable party members, add elemental weaknesses and resistances, dungeons, cities, airship, and minigames.
You just want a remake of the game at that point
@@Xerzene The game is so awful that a remake is necessary for it to be playable.
@@vorpalinferno9711Not really. I think ppl should critique the game for what it is and not what they wanted it to be. As an RPG it is mediocre at best, as a hack and slash game is ok. The game is clearly not an RPG so they should have doubled down on making a 20 hrs long hack and slash instead of poorly implementing RPG mechanics and making the game 60 hours long, which makes it a slog to get thru
@@Xerzene Its called Final Fantasy. That means it is supposed to have Final Fantasy elements. It markets itself as an RPG. And it barely has any RPG elements. Why am I not supposed to judge a product by its advertisement?
@@vorpalinferno9711never said u can't judge the game for the misleading advertisement, just that I think u should judge the game for what it ended up being instead. It's called Final Fantasy that's true, but they have always tried different things with both mainline entries and spinoffs. With that said this one is a big departure to the point Stranger of Paradise is a better action rpg than this game. My point is that it could have been a really good mainline FF game even without it being an rpg but at the end it fails to be both genres it tries to be
If base game was like this and was balanced to allow this, the game would have been actually fun
Just imagine doing all they just to kill a wolf 😂
Trickswordtrickswordmasroyalguardgunslingtricksword ahh moment😂
The only way for square to hold back the combat director of DMC from turning FF16 into a medieval DMC was placing cooldowns 😂
"Lore accurate Clive"
Clive is such a cool dude.
I was hoping mastering skills other than max attacks would allow for no cooldown