Building a Thien-baffle Separator (Small Dust Collector #3)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @watercushion
    @watercushion 9 лет назад +37

    I appreciate the amount of effort you put into making videos, they have got just the right amount of required details and explanation. Thanks for another great video!

  • @connorddenniss
    @connorddenniss Год назад +1

    Those outtakes are hilarious! Refreshing my memory on your design so I can mimic it as much as possible

  • @tonythomas951
    @tonythomas951 8 лет назад +1

    You are awesome. Its nice to see you are not always composed but all in all you are one talented man.

  • @royr327
    @royr327 7 лет назад +1

    Hi, Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your video's. Your attention to detail is greatly appreciated.

  • @diverrite
    @diverrite 7 лет назад +1

    Great job, nice to see a young person who is very skilled.

  • @archangel6415
    @archangel6415 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant idea and excellent build quality. I am very impressed by this young man.

  • @andrewwatkinson1548
    @andrewwatkinson1548 3 года назад +1

    ‘This one time, at bandclamp’ 🤣 Good build mate.

  • @jeffroberts930
    @jeffroberts930 7 лет назад

    Excellent video. And you speak English better than most native speakers. Keep up the good work!

  • @rla1000
    @rla1000 Год назад +1

    Great video, you have a great delivery and explain things very well.

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac 9 лет назад +1

    Excellent engineering, innovation and results! I appreciate the way you worked the ability to see the circulation and the barrel level into this project!

  • @reggiebraud5483
    @reggiebraud5483 7 лет назад +2

    Marius, I really enjoy your videos. Your attention to detail in your explanations is great. I particularly enjoy your theoretical approach to the physics involved in your projects. The outtakes are cool too!

  • @KSFWG
    @KSFWG 9 лет назад +3

    Great part 3 and just as entertaining as always. Theory, planning, technique, and skill shine bright once again in your videos. Thanks!

  • @mgrantom
    @mgrantom 2 месяца назад

    Wow, very nice separator. You have given me some great ideas for building mine.

  • @thumperman8490
    @thumperman8490 5 лет назад

    You should be on TV doing this stuff ..love it. Forsprung durch Techik.

  • @greatitbroke
    @greatitbroke 9 лет назад

    Thar is awesome Marius. When I get done renovating my shop I will see about making my own dust collector. Thanks for the inspiration. Greetings from Canada.

  • @hallays
    @hallays 9 лет назад

    That is one of the nicest dustcolectors i have ever seen. You do a wery good jobb

  • @michaelsmith-obrien3850
    @michaelsmith-obrien3850 5 лет назад

    Good detail and theory explanation; ending with humor is appreciated; minimal (very understandable) accent and very good command of English vocabulary as a non-native language. Superb repertoire of power woodworking tools and skills to use them. Keep it up.

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 9 лет назад +2

    Your videos are great, and show a lot of thought not just in the work, but in the video production. Enjoyed.

  • @Gramarrowsmith
    @Gramarrowsmith 9 лет назад

    Brilliant!! This is all the confidence I needed to tell me that my attempt at making my separator is at least on the right track! Thanks again Marius!

  • @scotty2307
    @scotty2307 9 лет назад

    Looks really good Marius. You can be proud to use it.

  • @ossianhaufe4671
    @ossianhaufe4671 5 лет назад

    Really nice, it looks professional, it works well and you were always sympathetic 👍

  • @TheShavingWoodWorkshop
    @TheShavingWoodWorkshop 9 лет назад

    I wonder what makes me laugh at the outtakes more, the seeing someone else stumble or the reflection of that really is how it goes for us some days :-)

  • @dedasdude
    @dedasdude 8 лет назад

    a little tip would be to point the dust inlet downwards so that gravity gets a little boost n the dust settles faster.

  • @ianspaintpot
    @ianspaintpot 5 лет назад +26

    that is a lot of work for something that is just goint to sit there collecting dust

    • @serv27438
      @serv27438 4 года назад

      XDDDDD LMAO

    • @Wendetta
      @Wendetta 2 года назад

      Ha.. Haha… hahahaha oh man😂

    • @mikewelch3903
      @mikewelch3903 Год назад

      Now THAT is funny!!! 😂

  • @simonaldridge82
    @simonaldridge82 9 лет назад +8

    well done again! you make great factual and entertaining videos, I have watched you for sometime and you are becoming a very knowledgeable maker. i look forward to your projects, and to see you develop further. try not to get angry with yourself if things do not go well patience and time are on your side

  • @spoon761
    @spoon761 9 лет назад

    Quality and precision from beginning to end. You make it look simple. Great work!!

  • @TomasHORSKYcom
    @TomasHORSKYcom 2 года назад

    Amazing build, lots of great innovations. Thanks for awesome video 👏.

  • @roncooper6302
    @roncooper6302 9 лет назад +1

    Always a joy to watch and thoroughly entertaining. Regards.

  • @johndavis8684
    @johndavis8684 4 года назад

    Proceeds to walk over to his $2000 drum sander and then says I had to do a little bit of sanding. Nice shop man I love it

  • @HobbyGarageDIY
    @HobbyGarageDIY 5 лет назад

    Hi Marius, really remarkable is your simplicity and perfection. My most sincere congratulations. I have been following you for a long time and I find so much inspiration from your work ... a warm greeting from Italy

  • @T70781
    @T70781 9 лет назад +2

    Great video. I like the way you attached the plastic sheet more than any other methods I've seen.
    I'll share some information that I hope will be helpful. I tested a centrifugal vacuum system that I designed a while back using cheap Bissell cyclone vacuum parts and a 5 gallon bucket. (videos on my RUclips channel). Although I could not see or even smell dust escaping, when I tested the shop air quality using a Dylos laser particle counter I found that particle counts went from around 30,000 per cubic foot (good air quality) to around 1,200,000 (extremely poor air quality) for particles 0.5 microns and larger.
    The collector removed the largest particles but became a pump spewing out the dangerous small ones.
    So, I would recommend installing your filters before using the system. The dust that you cannot see is the most important to remove because the smaller the particle the deeper it can travel into your lungs before being caught.

    • @MariusHornberger
      @MariusHornberger  9 лет назад +2

      +Tony Shulthise That was the plan. For the little bit of testing, I did so far, I wore my dust mask.

  • @pierreggm1692
    @pierreggm1692 9 лет назад

    Hi. I'm watching Mathias Wandel since a year and I just discovered you today. "Man na"s comment is right !!! Realy nice to follow your projects and videos. Keep untertain us. Regards from Frence !

  • @jazvecisko
    @jazvecisko 9 лет назад

    hi marius, awesome build.
    i think it would be pretty cool to put a light in the wooden bucket so it would be much easier to see how full it is.

  • @MariusHornberger
    @MariusHornberger  9 лет назад +20

    Here is part 3 of the small dust collector build series. Enjoy it!

  • @ericoberbel1316
    @ericoberbel1316 2 месяца назад

    o melhor projeto de aspirador do youtube, congratulations

  • @henrysworkshop7477
    @henrysworkshop7477 9 лет назад +2

    Brilliant! Its coming together now :) Mathias needs to watch out, theres a new kid on the block haha

  • @bartoszjabonski4228
    @bartoszjabonski4228 8 лет назад +1

    Read the description on epoxy sometimes they don't want to glue materials like PP, PE, ABS and maybe PET too, hard plastic got special glue with activator. Have nice day

  • @veronica5896
    @veronica5896 9 лет назад

    The woodworking is always spot on, and the videos keeps getting better =) Which is pretty amazing, considering they were perfect to begin with =) Thanks for sharing, I really love your sence of humor =)

  • @contessa.adella
    @contessa.adella 2 года назад

    I was particularly interested in your neat design. A few thoughts occur (which you already mention). First I think more distance between the bottom of the inlet and the baffle would give more vertical drop for the particles to sink down and secondly I am wondering about the ideal depth for the outlet to intrude into the chamber. Some designs have no tube intrusion at all, others go deeply down to nearer the baffle. Thirdly, I wonder about the ideal diameter of the chamber…too small and the wall of moving particles will be near the outlet suction…too large and the rotational speed will drop hmmm. Great project and vid. Thank you.

  • @ConstantKouakou
    @ConstantKouakou 6 лет назад

    You share so cool works Marius , again have great success with your goals !

  • @ThumpertTheFascistCottontail
    @ThumpertTheFascistCottontail 9 лет назад

    Another great build, Marius. Thank you for the video.

  • @pcka12
    @pcka12 4 года назад

    Great little tool you have built, the only problem with your explanation is that there is no such thing as 'centrifugal force ' because as Newton pointed out bodies continue at rest or in uniform motion (in a straight line) and in order for them to spin round an axis a 'centripital ' force has to be applied.
    The air flow impinges on the walls of your separation chamber and so causes the spinning motion!

  • @specialk22tt
    @specialk22tt 8 лет назад

    Super clean build. Nice job.

  • @JohanTwinsen
    @JohanTwinsen 9 лет назад

    Good trick with the screw/dowels!

  • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
    @BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 года назад

    Your accent makes you sound very smart and a tiny bit evil. But in a nice way. Love the baffle separator-chamber, clear sides is a nice touch.

  • @MarkThomas123
    @MarkThomas123 Год назад

    It would seem that forcing the dust down, once inside of the Thien-Baffle via a semi slow arc at the entry to get the particles to go down, then, on the bottom, another small arc going back up, about 2/3rds to 3/4 around, before the entry again, would force the particles down into the catch basin faster, which, if the arc at the bottom was at the top(bottom of the thein baffle), should bring back cleaner air. It needs a down draft for the lighter dust. The bigger chips work fine with gravity only.
    If it did not work perfectly, once the air/dust flow was lower in the drum, (not to upset the dust already in the base), another thin directional baffle could be used to keep the lower air circulating horizontally around the base, and still allow the air above it to be cycled back up. Seems the key is to get the dust/chip into the bottom area of the drum/base faster, and not circulating up top.

  • @honeyy79
    @honeyy79 8 лет назад

    Outtakes love them :D This is very nice dust collector

  • @edheide7229
    @edheide7229 6 лет назад

    THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD QUALITY VIDEO AND INFORMATION.

  • @Ivan_Baev_45
    @Ivan_Baev_45 9 лет назад +6

    Хорошая работа!

  • @jackmarashlian2463
    @jackmarashlian2463 8 лет назад +8

    Hi Marius, great video... If I may, I wish to help you with few pointers, please do not be offended....I am qualified in M.Eng but that is not the point.
    Do not use Epoxy with Acrylics specially you are using a thin sheet maybe 3/32? as the unit in operation, produces constant vibration due to compression and pressure, epoxy is too rigid for this vibration plus you are only attaching a thin surface layer with the glue and not proper chemical bonding adhesive.
    If you go to the suppliers of acrylic or poly-carbonate they will assist you with the appropriate chemical bond glues. for acrylics or Poly-carbonate. If you will join them by overlapping a special glue is available, "is not super glue" that can be added between the joints with a hypodermic needles which is activated within 20 to 30 seconds max.. UNFORTUNATELY epoxy will fail in a very short time.
    Furthermore if I may suggest 2 design changes, although you are talking about theory I do not know where you find it... as your vertical cylinder is far too tall you have to keep it as short as possible, the bottom of the dust outlet pipe must be very very close to the lower buffer or the conical cyclone.
    The central tube " suction pipe MUST BE NO LESS THEN 2 TO 3" PROTRUDING DOWN BEYOND THE LOWER BUFFER, in the vortex that suction creates no centrifugal force is pushing the particles down, this way the suction created in the cyclone is being sucked down and does not get sucked upwards.
    For your safety you must add a SAFETY VALVE in case you create for any reason a large vacuum pressure " such as blocked pipework" you do not have any accident, I have seen in my professional life to many tanks been reduced to a crumbled junk, simplest way to explain if you have a tank full of liquid and a valve in the bottom and you open this valve theoretically the liquid should not flow but if you have a vent on top of the tank the surface pressure together with surface tension will push the liquid down. In a dust extractor the pressure is fairly high as it is produced by mechanical means.
    The safety valve is a very simple home made device , will not cost you more then $5 if you interested let me know I sketch one and email it to you.
    As they say measure twice and cut once which is the same, do research first then make... I know fun is in making.
    Kind regards AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
    Jack from OZ

  • @TexasGTO
    @TexasGTO 9 лет назад

    The outtakes! OH THE OUTTAKES!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!

  • @benspens
    @benspens 9 лет назад

    love the blooper reels at the end...Keep up the good work!!!

  • @matus158
    @matus158 9 лет назад

    very nice job! It also looks good and neat.

  • @Shopbuilt
    @Shopbuilt 9 лет назад +5

    Very impressive!

  • @blackceazar1
    @blackceazar1 9 лет назад

    Very nice job Marius!

  • @bsergio96
    @bsergio96 9 лет назад

    Great job Marius your videos are really entertaining and informative keep them coming greetings from sunny California !!!

  • @PlywoodCreative21
    @PlywoodCreative21 3 года назад

    Thank for sharing video inovatif and inspiratif🙏

  • @thebeoworg8759
    @thebeoworg8759 5 лет назад

    P1V1=P2V2
    Therefore,
    (P1V1)/V2=P2
    Where P=pressure and V=velocity
    You've already bestablished you require more velocity to benefit from centrifugal force. Let's assign arbitrary values to the velocity to test this principal. V1=10 m/s and V2=14 m/s (the desired effect). Let's assume the vacuum pulls 5psi, so P1=5 psi
    We can now calculate for P2,
    P2=(5*10)/14 which comes out to be 3.57psi.
    This result tells us in order to increase the velocity, we will need to reduce the pressure. This can be achieved by reducing the diameter of the outlet. This is defined as the Venturi effect.

  • @staticfanatic6361
    @staticfanatic6361 9 лет назад

    I was wondering where to plan to take your hobby/business? Have you a woodworking career planned for the future? What do your parents think of your endeavors and what do they think about the noise and dust?

    • @MariusHornberger
      @MariusHornberger  9 лет назад

      +brian nelson No, I don't have a woodworking career in mind, it's just a hobby. My parents really like it and are ok with the noise. Dust doesn't really leave the shop.

  • @chicocardoso7613
    @chicocardoso7613 6 лет назад

    You are genius young man.

  • @naseeransari8006
    @naseeransari8006 4 года назад

    REQUEST
    By combining the mechanism of Flip Top table & Murphy Table , can you please create the Table saw , jigsaw table, etc,etc ...on wall ??????
    Especially for space saving purpose
    👍👍👍👍👍👍& Thankful for your tutorial

  • @gamingSlasher
    @gamingSlasher 9 лет назад

    What a nice and ambitious project. About the small dust getting sucked out. What would happen if you placed the white tubing under the outlet, maybe 2/3 height. Wouldnt that improve the centrifugal action but still allow air to be sucked?

    • @MariusHornberger
      @MariusHornberger  9 лет назад

      +gamingSlasher maybe, but I didn't try all possibilities yet

  • @contessa.adella
    @contessa.adella 4 года назад

    A smaller diameter cyclone chamber will spin the airflow faster, increasing the efficiency of dust separation. However making it too small will bring the particle laden flow closer to the low pressure outflow pipe. Cyclone vacuum cleaners like Dyson have a cyclone chamber around 8 inches diameter. However there are efficiencies of scale to consider and in truth some experimentation is the only way to find out the correct size for spinning out the finest possible dust with any particular blower. Other considerations are the depth to which the outflow pipe drops into the chamber and also the height of the chamber wall. A smaller secondary cyclone of just a few inches diameter, to deal with the finest dust could be attached to the outflow pipe. This would almost negate the need for filtration, although it is not worth taking the risk of breathing in microsvopic lung damaging particles....so best advice is no matter how good your cyclone set up always use a final filter....or exhaust the blower to the outside.

  • @karolh2
    @karolh2 9 лет назад +1

    Finally part 3. Waiting for it was a real pain. Besides, another great video!

  • @ZK-999
    @ZK-999 8 лет назад

    Klasse Video! Und super Erklärung der Funktionsweise :). Macht echt spaß deine Videos zu schauen und man bekommt auch lust mal ein handwerkliches Projekt zu beginnen!

  • @secondwind75
    @secondwind75 9 лет назад

    It's looking good, Marius. Another entertaining video. Keep it up, buddy. Troy

  • @brucemcnally3924
    @brucemcnally3924 5 лет назад

    You are a genius my friend.

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers 8 лет назад

    I think the outlet tub needs to extend through the baffle. Then the baffle could be suspended bu the tube with a thin slot all around the outside.

  • @serv27438
    @serv27438 4 года назад

    Wow, really nice job. Verywell explained.

  • @lorisverde844
    @lorisverde844 9 лет назад

    you are a genius ! and I like Very much you videos! !

  • @malcolmoxley1274
    @malcolmoxley1274 9 лет назад

    you must be really pleased?well done mate

  • @lamiallegerald3341
    @lamiallegerald3341 9 лет назад

    Nice one. I like your style keep up the good work

  • @2ndrunraidshadowlegends631
    @2ndrunraidshadowlegends631 5 лет назад

    Maybe add a particle filter will stop the fine dust from entering the suction chamber ?

  • @BaNuj
    @BaNuj 9 лет назад

    Cuttoffs in the end like in Jackie Chan movies :D

  • @TesserLink
    @TesserLink 9 лет назад

    the downside to having clear plastic walls is that they wont be clear forever. the bits of dust and sawdust will slowly act like sand paper to the walls and give it a frosted look over time.

    • @MariusHornberger
      @MariusHornberger  9 лет назад

      +brandonhughes7 True, but they will stay clear enough to see the inside.

  • @jamesthepuerilis
    @jamesthepuerilis 9 лет назад

    Nice work Marius, very interesting videos

  • @virutillaspino
    @virutillaspino 9 лет назад

    Muy buenos todos tus videos Marius,saludos desde Tenerife España.

  • @vdsmade
    @vdsmade Год назад

    Great job 👷👍

  • @Gramarrowsmith
    @Gramarrowsmith 9 лет назад

    Ha ha! Awesome build! Love the out takes!

  • @mikeyork3871
    @mikeyork3871 8 лет назад

    your outtakes are hilarious! THANKS following.......now.

  • @changjaelee5892
    @changjaelee5892 2 года назад

    I enjoyed the honest video. What thickness dimension did you use for the material that appears to be transparent polycarbonate?

  • @filmsoundno
    @filmsoundno 9 лет назад

    wow! just wow! I'm really impressed by your skills. how old are you again? The creativity and attention for details you show us is mind boggling. Don't you ever stop making videos, in no time at all you have quickly become one of my top five presenters☺ thumbs up for you sir, and greetings from Norway☺

  • @toolify
    @toolify 9 лет назад

    It looks great!

  • @halemm
    @halemm 9 лет назад

    very cool video marius!

  • @chinslip1
    @chinslip1 Год назад

    A quick question…would a smaller diameter separator increase the velocity for improved fin dust removal?

  • @Erosgenuino
    @Erosgenuino 7 месяцев назад

    y esta maquina no lleva ciclon?, es más eficiente que una con ciclon?

  • @chrishartman7061
    @chrishartman7061 Год назад

    Doest inlet restrict the flow ? Basically reducing the flow by .5

  • @videotube8114
    @videotube8114 7 лет назад

    Hello Marius, can you please explain why is there a need for a thien baffle? and also, why are there two different types of thein baffle? (one that's all empty on the sides usually made for shop vacs and the one that you made in this video.) Please answer this. Thank You!!!

  • @joepiejaapie
    @joepiejaapie Год назад

    Centrifugal force does not really exist. The air speed decreases as it goes to the centre, and spirals towards it creating a longer path. This gives the dust time to settle down. Why it probably didn't work as well with the large amount of dust, is due to all the particles bumping into eachother causing some of them to pass in front of the centre where the air is sucked in, causing them to be sucked in aswell. I know this video is over 8 years old, but maybe you still didn't know this, so I thought let's just post a coment.

  • @corinev.d.2615
    @corinev.d.2615 6 лет назад

    wow you did it so easy.. i can´t even build a closet of ikea...

  • @aticafloorable
    @aticafloorable 4 года назад

    What type of motor did you install in the vacuum cleaner and its characteristics please

  • @Loosehead
    @Loosehead 8 лет назад

    Nice design that I may well adopt for my workshop, so thank you. I currently have a clear fishfood container as my cyclone with the baffle cut in its bottom and a dust barrel underneath, but the dust stream comes in so fast it completes more than one circuit of the cyclone before reaching the baffle, and bounces. I wonder if that is happening with your design - the dust appeared to be making at least 360 degrees before dropping to the baffle, by which time it missed the slot in the baffle. Cyclone height and baffle position are largely a matter of trial and error anyway.

  • @PieterHansma77
    @PieterHansma77 9 лет назад

    when in use, does it suck air around the pvc inlet shute? by using some silicone it might create a little better vacuum in the separator or it doesn't bother you at all? Great video's!

    • @MariusHornberger
      @MariusHornberger  9 лет назад +2

      +Pieter Hansma No, it's a tight fit there. But a silicone sealing is planned. But I'll do that to all parts simultaneously when everything is finished.

  • @stefandebruijn3167
    @stefandebruijn3167 4 года назад

    I was really wondering how much sound the thing makes, because the air flow will hit the blades. Any insight?

  • @jussibara
    @jussibara 9 лет назад

    Nice build, well done sir 😊

  • @Blenderite
    @Blenderite 5 лет назад

    I love your channel. Very inspiring. My only observation. With the amount of Birch plywood you use, here in the US buying a professionally made tool would be cheaper! I can't get Birch plywood for any less than $40 a sheet. Birch must be more readily available over there.

  • @gunterannee7844
    @gunterannee7844 9 лет назад

    gutes Video wie immer :) ein Top am Rande : wenn du nochmals dünnes plexi schneiden musst nimm ei. hm Blatt von fein. kaum vibration und bessere Kontrolle. Versuchs mal

    • @MariusHornberger
      @MariusHornberger  9 лет назад

      +Günter Année Das hab ich sogar. Nur hatte ich das feine Holzblatt von Fein eingespannt.

  • @vsavoldi
    @vsavoldi 9 лет назад

    Nice vid, I really like your style.

  • @adamquincey4371
    @adamquincey4371 9 лет назад

    Excellent job and video...!
    Cheers...

  • @Pr0v0rny
    @Pr0v0rny 8 лет назад

    Thank You and thank Your parents!