I've been deeply in love with Company of Heroes from the moment I first saw the original. No RTS can compare. I think it's the ony rts I have almost 200 hours of gameplay on. Whereas I play almost exclusively story-based scenarios and campaigns in any other game, COH's gameplay is just so deeply engrossing and repayable that even one-off skirmishes keep me interested for hundreds of hours.
Good quality review thanks. About 10 years ago I was going into a game store (remember those) to buy a copy of age of empires 3 and the guy in the store highly recommended Company of Heroes (1) which I'd never heard of. So I bought it (it was a classic game by that stage) and it is my favourite game of all time and I wish I could find that store employee who recommended it.
Got the game for free a few months ago, now that I’ve started to play it, it’s quite fun. Downloaded a few new maps and realism mods and it got even better. Skirmish vs AI is all I really play.
Only thing I dont like about this game is the inability to zoom out more to see more of an overview of the map. I hate how zoomed in it is so you cant snap to the action as easy when something happens. Yes the mini map helps but I think an ability to zoom out maybe half as much more to get a better view of the map would make it perfect.
Yeah I know what you mean but I think it's an intentional design decision. I think having an overview of everything going on would make it a bit too easy. Just from a game design perspective, keeping the player focused and limiting the player forces them to make meaningful choices and tradeoffs and forcing you to have a small field of view means that your attention is another resource in the game that you need to manage and make trade offs for. That being said you can press zero and see the whole map.
This game is great, but i stopped playing it due to the absolutely worst community ive ever seen. Always so toxic towards new guys, going as far as destroying their own bases. Rage Quiting at the first slightest sign of defeat. These guys killed the game for me
It is a shame, but CoH2 isn't the only game which suffers from toxic players. I think it has something to do with our internet culture - it is far too egocentric and infantile. Even in Online Chess, you have far too many toxic players who will just rage quit or wait intentionally until their time runs out. My advice: Play with real friends or with players that you know from some decent matches. I really can't explain, why the situation got so worse. It is a far cry from my online experiences in the late 1990s and 2000s. If you are good in a game, then someone will complain about you being a "tryhard" (and then rage quits will follow), and if you are mediocre or bad in a game, then you get insulted as a bad player (most of the time in a misogynic or homophobic term). It is a real pity.
Self fueled toxicity. The bad and toxic players get paired with (still) bad new players. Either the new players quit, get toxic themselves or move up and play with better players. The higher the ranks, the less toxic the players are usually.
@@GoodOlKuro I moved on to Steel division 2 tbh. Although there are still some toxic people, it's happening much less often and i enjoy the games much more
My personal favorite is Men of War: Assault Squad 2, it's very similar to COH2 and I've just fallen in love with it. Never played the campaign though, only the skirmishes, but I have hundreds of hours in it. Replayability is awesome. Awesome video about COH2 though :)
Hey btw- the AI does cheat, unfortunately. If you watch a replay, you'll notice each player's resource pool. I play on Expert, when the game just starts, I'm gaining +273 manpower/minute, while the AI gets 435 manpower/min (approx). Even when they're at 80/100 popcap, they're still making 300+/min, so more than the max amount you would gain if you only had one squad, while they are nearly at their cap.
While true with practice even expert AI can be beaten fairly easily. While they do get lots of stuff as long as you can control the early game enough to build up a good force you can break their attacks. Generally the large field presence of the ai is more of a facade than anything, if you can just destroy that vehicle or tank and push back a couple of squads you'll find that behind their front line they aren't nearly as strong as they no longer have numbers. That being said it can be easy to be overwhelmed if you aren't careful here so it does take time and practice at the game to be capable
They also get a type of maphack as well, as they can always tell where your units are in the fog of war. That being said, the ai is still pretty bad, having no distinction whether they should build a certain type of unit, or if they should cap vp's instead of resource territories, or when to use an ability appropriately and etc. If coh3 is going to be focused on a total war-like campaign than this is a problem that Relic must fix asap. Imo, the best part of coh2 is its multiplayer.
I dont rly carem i personally 1v2 expert Al. U see helpinghans winning a 1v4 expert Al. The Al is not a big deal in this game because their build orders are quite. Outdated. With the soviet being the hardest i think
When I'm playing in "Theater of War" mode and I finally win the match. I just don't get the medal and I don't get points either. This also happens in "Skirmish" mode Detail: I'm not using codes (cheats)! Thank you attention!
As others have said, the ai does cheat on expert but also, the expert AI varies between factions. I've found the expert AI as Soviet is much harder than US and UK. Granted, Soviets live or die based upon their commanders - get two+ Soviet AI with propaganda artillery and you're going to have a bad time
I personally. 1v2 expert Als. And.. i dont think they rly cheat. However. The most painfuk al is the sov. But the build orders are extremely repetitive. Do u know a mod to make the Al more painful?
Was surprised to hear the SA accent! Have this game in my Steam Library but haven't downlosdedit yet. Not BIG RTS games but have been exploring them lately. Also turn-based RPGs like Xcom and Divinity: Original Sin
when coh 2 came out it was considered shit. now i prefer it more than coh 1, hipefully coh 3 will be freat from the get go since they have more exp with this game
Wish a triple A studio like creative assembly would take a shot at “realistic” ww2 company-level tactical combat. The close combat series has fallen on hard times and its time to pass the torch. Fixed forces with real TO&E, real engagement ranges, armor angles and pen values for tank combat, morale, etc.
I've been deeply in love with Company of Heroes from the moment I first saw the original. No RTS can compare. I think it's the ony rts I have almost 200 hours of gameplay on. Whereas I play almost exclusively story-based scenarios and campaigns in any other game, COH's gameplay is just so deeply engrossing and repayable that even one-off skirmishes keep me interested for hundreds of hours.
Good quality review thanks. About 10 years ago I was going into a game store (remember those) to buy a copy of age of empires 3 and the guy in the store highly recommended Company of Heroes (1) which I'd never heard of. So I bought it (it was a classic game by that stage) and it is my favourite game of all time and I wish I could find that store employee who recommended it.
Got the game for free a few months ago, now that I’ve started to play it, it’s quite fun. Downloaded a few new maps and realism mods and it got even better. Skirmish vs AI is all I really play.
Going on 2000 hours and still love this game
It was free the other day, and the Master Collection bundle was on a 91% discount. Best deal of my life so far, next to Minecraft.
This is one of those games that I always come back to, and all I do is play against hard and expert AI with other players.
Only thing I dont like about this game is the inability to zoom out more to see more of an overview of the map. I hate how zoomed in it is so you cant snap to the action as easy when something happens. Yes the mini map helps but I think an ability to zoom out maybe half as much more to get a better view of the map would make it perfect.
Yeah I know what you mean but I think it's an intentional design decision. I think having an overview of everything going on would make it a bit too easy. Just from a game design perspective, keeping the player focused and limiting the player forces them to make meaningful choices and tradeoffs and forcing you to have a small field of view means that your attention is another resource in the game that you need to manage and make trade offs for. That being said you can press zero and see the whole map.
That would be cheating in multiplayer, game supposes that you use the minimal or tactical map
You can download mods to change that
I believe it is intentional. Thats why the game has more micro than coh1.
Still. There are mods for zooming out. Enjoy
This game is great, but i stopped playing it due to the absolutely worst community ive ever seen.
Always so toxic towards new guys, going as far as destroying their own bases. Rage Quiting at the first slightest sign of defeat.
These guys killed the game for me
It is a shame, but CoH2 isn't the only game which suffers from toxic players. I think it has something to do with our internet culture - it is far too egocentric and infantile. Even in Online Chess, you have far too many toxic players who will just rage quit or wait intentionally until their time runs out.
My advice: Play with real friends or with players that you know from some decent matches. I really can't explain, why the situation got so worse. It is a far cry from my online experiences in the late 1990s and 2000s. If you are good in a game, then someone will complain about you being a "tryhard" (and then rage quits will follow), and if you are mediocre or bad in a game, then you get insulted as a bad player (most of the time in a misogynic or homophobic term). It is a real pity.
Self fueled toxicity. The bad and toxic players get paired with (still) bad new players. Either the new players quit, get toxic themselves or move up and play with better players. The higher the ranks, the less toxic the players are usually.
@@GoodOlKuro
I moved on to Steel division 2 tbh.
Although there are still some toxic people, it's happening much less often and i enjoy the games much more
Toxicity and coh2
bruh
No offense. But . Go back to league of legends of u think coh2 is toxic
@@Recker1125 self reflection ain't your forte eh?
My personal favorite is Men of War: Assault Squad 2, it's very similar to COH2 and I've just fallen in love with it. Never played the campaign though, only the skirmishes, but I have hundreds of hours in it. Replayability is awesome. Awesome video about COH2 though :)
Newbie here and planning to buy this game, but i have question please. If i buy the us force dlc, can i use the faction in offline skirmish?
Absolutely!
Is this on pc xbox or PlayStation?
bought the master collection for 2 dollars last year Definitely worth it!
Bought it for 6 dollars last year for me
Hey nice, pls make more coh gameplay :))
Hey btw- the AI does cheat, unfortunately. If you watch a replay, you'll notice each player's resource pool. I play on Expert, when the game just starts, I'm gaining +273 manpower/minute, while the AI gets 435 manpower/min (approx). Even when they're at 80/100 popcap, they're still making 300+/min, so more than the max amount you would gain if you only had one squad, while they are nearly at their cap.
That's a bit disappointing. On harder difficulty settings the AI can be really hard to beat in this game, I guess that explains why.
While true with practice even expert AI can be beaten fairly easily. While they do get lots of stuff as long as you can control the early game enough to build up a good force you can break their attacks. Generally the large field presence of the ai is more of a facade than anything, if you can just destroy that vehicle or tank and push back a couple of squads you'll find that behind their front line they aren't nearly as strong as they no longer have numbers. That being said it can be easy to be overwhelmed if you aren't careful here so it does take time and practice at the game to be capable
They also get a type of maphack as well, as they can always tell where your units are in the fog of war. That being said, the ai is still pretty bad, having no distinction whether they should build a certain type of unit, or if they should cap vp's instead of resource territories, or when to use an ability appropriately and etc. If coh3 is going to be focused on a total war-like campaign than this is a problem that Relic must fix asap. Imo, the best part of coh2 is its multiplayer.
@@ChucksIndieGalaxy Not really important the focus of the game is multiplayer, see you in automatch
I dont rly carem i personally 1v2 expert Al.
U see helpinghans winning a 1v4 expert Al. The Al is not a big deal in this game because their build orders are quite. Outdated. With the soviet being the hardest i think
When I'm playing in "Theater of War" mode and I finally win the match. I just don't get the medal and I don't get points either. This also happens in "Skirmish" mode
Detail: I'm not using codes (cheats)!
Thank you attention!
As others have said, the ai does cheat on expert but also, the expert AI varies between factions. I've found the expert AI as Soviet is much harder than US and UK. Granted, Soviets live or die based upon their commanders - get two+ Soviet AI with propaganda artillery and you're going to have a bad time
I personally. 1v2 expert Als. And.. i dont think they rly cheat. However. The most painfuk al is the sov. But the build orders are extremely repetitive. Do u know a mod to make the Al more painful?
@@Recker1125 a mod to make it more painful? You alright mate? Lol
Hey Chuck, are you South African?
Hey buddy! I am indeed :)
@@ChucksIndieGalaxy Been playing some Company of Heroes 2 lately myself and had a look around for recent videos. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, I'll definitely be checking out your videos then!
Was surprised to hear the SA accent! Have this game in my Steam Library but haven't downlosdedit yet. Not BIG RTS games but have been exploring them lately. Also turn-based RPGs like Xcom and Divinity: Original Sin
4:15 that's not entirely true, if you play Expert mode the AI has twice the income you do 😂
when coh 2 came out it was considered shit. now i prefer it more than coh 1, hipefully coh 3 will be freat from the get go since they have more exp with this game
I love this game
900 hours in the game fun to meme with the lads
i AM going to play it first time wish me luck i love rts games
Who likes the original better?
game is cool but this spammers on ranked battels : (
Multiplayer Is good single player Is bul shit
Wish a triple A studio like creative assembly would take a shot at “realistic” ww2 company-level tactical combat. The close combat series has fallen on hard times and its time to pass the torch.
Fixed forces with real TO&E, real engagement ranges, armor angles and pen values for tank combat, morale, etc.
creative assembly sucks tho
Have you checked out Graviteam Tactics games? It's not quite company-level, more like a battalion, but it might be what you're looking for.
it's good because the fucking standards of back then don't exist anymore
imho mowas 2 is by far superior.
for me coh 2 was to arcadey , but nice review nevertheless.