good video. my 2 cents: - draw 2 on awaken is a no go for non-red/blue decks. That supplementary energy on awaken is so important as nowadays decks already draw enough. - same goes for non-saiyan decks (except alternative wincon like cooler) because Vegito SCR is the best scr to steal games.
Thanks! :) I'm not a fan of draw 2 awakenings tbh. My favorite is restand 2 but we all know how absurd that one is. Restand 1 draw 1 should be the standard for non-aggro leaders.
What do you think of Red burst u7 with the new z extra card? I actually don't think its a terrible option, i just wish it got more support as its my favorite deck
I think that it isn't even rogue at this point. The biggest problem with the deck is that nothing except the boss monster is bigger than 19k and we're in a meta where most Z-leaders are 20k baseline so, once your opponent Z-awakens, you're on the losing end and you must waste card comboing with every attack to go above 20k with your attackers. If the 20k Z-leaders weren't meta the deck would have been a lot better! :/
@@TheLookoutDBS I agree, i still have fun playing it at locals but i also think that if it gets a z leader and some new cards, it can definitely be a contender, it's so aggro that most decks might not even get the chance to z awaken so thats why i think they're a little hesitant to give it support
Interesting that Dr. Hedo didn't make the list. With Explosive dance coming next set it isnt as weak to flood gates and can get past turn 4 more easily.
I think that Hedo is still too weak to floodgates, especially in a meta where other colors can deal with his board easily. Losing your attacking turns and losing your board is too much for him to handle. That being said, you might do reasonably ok if you take it just on the chance that your opponents don't see their floodgates lol
Thanks a lot, great video ! Two questions for you : (i) Vegito can play almost any arrival, right (thinking about the Kefla for U7 Goku) ? ; (ii) I don't see how Cooler, which lives and dies by activating effect on Battle Cards, is not dead to Goku U7 (flight of the great eagle only gives you time - by the way it can also play Pilaf I think to remove ds)
Thanks! :D - Yes, Vegito can play almost any arrival in the game! :) - Cooler will struggle against U7 game as Goku doesn't really leave you with targets on the field. You will have to rely on arrival during your opponent's turn as they will still have to swing at you with something but, as U7 has a smaller board than some other tier 1 in general (Gogeta is an obvious exception) your mill power will be lessened. It still has a good matchup vs some other tier 1 decks so it is worth considering :)
I finally got off my butt and put Broly swap together after like 2 years. The hand control part doesn't seem to matter all that much but, it's fairly aggro. Could be a good rogue option.
I believe it is tier 1 as well, I have tried your build and trimming it by two cards and it was a monster. even without the Frieza it is a viable option :)
@@kaioteo226 Red U7 Gohan for sure. Very strong deck, combos a lot, has a strong boss monster, and will have a free play, dual attack and remove 2 cards in rest mode Frieza with the TP
Pan's interactions just broken... ton of draw power , minusing everything alway controll the board, and heavy agro.. but i think the vegeta z battle card is better than the goku. I also play the promo broly in the deck its broken, turn 2 30k crit draw 2 or 1 and ko something... nonsense for 1 energy. And i use the beast gohan and his z battle card.. for 4 energy you have a 35k dual attack card , with the z extra he can go to 50k double , and he still has one more 35k swing (also minusing with gohan 30k and the z extra card too), still can draw and hit with the leader and if you play the vegito scr you can finish the game.
Here we are, the road to nats begins today!
Congratulations on your video. Your work is excellent. I can't wait to see what happens next.
Thanks! :)
I appreciate you The Lookout ❤
Thanks Mr. M! ❤
I love these kinds of videos very informative on what’s out there
Thanks, glad that the video was helpful :)
good video.
my 2 cents:
- draw 2 on awaken is a no go for non-red/blue decks. That supplementary energy on awaken is so important as nowadays decks already draw enough.
- same goes for non-saiyan decks (except alternative wincon like cooler) because Vegito SCR is the best scr to steal games.
Thanks! :)
I'm not a fan of draw 2 awakenings tbh. My favorite is restand 2 but we all know how absurd that one is. Restand 1 draw 1 should be the standard for non-aggro leaders.
What do you think of Red burst u7 with the new z extra card? I actually don't think its a terrible option, i just wish it got more support as its my favorite deck
I think that it isn't even rogue at this point. The biggest problem with the deck is that nothing except the boss monster is bigger than 19k and we're in a meta where most Z-leaders are 20k baseline so, once your opponent Z-awakens, you're on the losing end and you must waste card comboing with every attack to go above 20k with your attackers. If the 20k Z-leaders weren't meta the deck would have been a lot better! :/
@@TheLookoutDBS I agree, i still have fun playing it at locals but i also think that if it gets a z leader and some new cards, it can definitely be a contender, it's so aggro that most decks might not even get the chance to z awaken so thats why i think they're a little hesitant to give it support
U7 = 🗑️
Interesting that Dr. Hedo didn't make the list. With Explosive dance coming next set it isnt as weak to flood gates and can get past turn 4 more easily.
I think that Hedo is still too weak to floodgates, especially in a meta where other colors can deal with his board easily. Losing your attacking turns and losing your board is too much for him to handle. That being said, you might do reasonably ok if you take it just on the chance that your opponents don't see their floodgates lol
Thanks for all this information. I like red, but none of these decks are the one for me. Let's see what's in blue 😉👍
You're welcome! 😉
Thanks a lot, great video ! Two questions for you : (i) Vegito can play almost any arrival, right (thinking about the Kefla for U7 Goku) ? ; (ii) I don't see how Cooler, which lives and dies by activating effect on Battle Cards, is not dead to Goku U7 (flight of the great eagle only gives you time - by the way it can also play Pilaf I think to remove ds)
Thanks! :D
- Yes, Vegito can play almost any arrival in the game! :)
- Cooler will struggle against U7 game as Goku doesn't really leave you with targets on the field. You will have to rely on arrival during your opponent's turn as they will still have to swing at you with something but, as U7 has a smaller board than some other tier 1 in general (Gogeta is an obvious exception) your mill power will be lessened. It still has a good matchup vs some other tier 1 decks so it is worth considering :)
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Great video
Thanks! :D
I finally got off my butt and put Broly swap together after like 2 years. The hand control part doesn't seem to matter all that much but, it's fairly aggro. Could be a good rogue option.
It could win you a good amount of games in Bo1 format, especially if your opponent's aren't prepared for it. :)
Seems like you forgot someone... 👀
I've left him out as TPs aren't legal on any Finals events in 2023 :( other than that, he is tier 1 without a doubt
Which deck? 🙃
I believe it is tier 1 as well, I have tried your build and trimming it by two cards and it was a monster. even without the Frieza it is a viable option :)
@@kaioteo226 Red U7 Gohan for sure. Very strong deck, combos a lot, has a strong boss monster, and will have a free play, dual attack and remove 2 cards in rest mode Frieza with the TP
@@evanallen4182 thanks for the answer!
Pan's interactions just broken... ton of draw power , minusing everything alway controll the board, and heavy agro.. but i think the vegeta z battle card is better than the goku. I also play the promo broly in the deck its broken, turn 2 30k crit draw 2 or 1 and ko something... nonsense for 1 energy. And i use the beast gohan and his z battle card.. for 4 energy you have a 35k dual attack card , with the z extra he can go to 50k double , and he still has one more 35k swing (also minusing with gohan 30k and the z extra card too), still can draw and hit with the leader and if you play the vegito scr you can finish the game.
Nice! :D
The Pan is really just overtuned. It should have been -15k max, not -20k on EITHER player's turn, it is insane.
Dont sleep on U7 Gohan
TPs aren't legal for the nats outside of NA and LATAM which is why I wasn't counting on Gohan :)
@@TheLookoutDBS if they were where would you rank it?
I'd rather play Hedo
Not a bad call, you either roflstomp fast or you lose horribly but at least you'll have fast games :)