Cornel West Tells the Grim Truth About COVID in the U.S. - Economic Update w/ Richard Wolff
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- Dr. Cornel West and Richard Wolff discuss the failure of the United States to implement a public response to a public threat in COVID-19. The sad, decayed state of the American experiment does not mean we can give up on fighting against capitalism, patriarchy and white supremacy!
"When you have a public life that is so debased, and degraded, and devalued that when there's a public threat, you're unable to provide an effective public response... It's clear that America is a colossal failure in terms of having a high quality, public life and therefore public response to public problems."- Dr. Cornel West
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“ Covid-19 is the public face of the effects of the complete marketization of the US health Care system “
@Seventh Anubis I suggest you verify that.
@Seventh Anubis yes there is. Many parts are traded.
Actually it's the face of government failure on multiple levels.
Dr Michael Hudson stated that the Ruling Class in the US uses the Health System for control of the people. Health Insurance is tied to employment, so going on strike means loss of Health Cover. One must accept working conditions offered to still have Health Cover. A serious illness can mean bankruptcy. It is a powerful means of control, as we have seen during this pandemic.
So has Prof Wolff
Yet the illegals crossing the border will get free health care while hardworking Americans are treated like parasites.
Exactly
@@rockyroad7345 they don’t get that
@@rockyroad7345 Yeah, blame the 'other' rather than go after the politicians like Manchin to fix the problem rather than kill any improvement to please their donors.
Two great minds of our time.... I could listen to them both all day!
Me too.
They are rather trusting of the CDC and CCP.
@@slmrcs sheesh
Was going to say the same but you beat me to it.
Was thinking the same. They spoke in four minutes on the disrespect the American government has for its citizens.
What a great man! Love Dr West 🐐
I have read the Proceedings of the Church Committee. You know those green books in the bowels of the university library. (Seems like most US academics don't spend much time with those books.) The last one who did and published was Ward Churchill. And we all know what happened to him. So, much for academic and free speech in the USA. We are not ruled by fear. We have free expression. I have read the U.S. and Chinese constitutions. The Chinese actually have an enumerated right and duty to vote. Yet, they are the "authoritarians." Meanwhile Americans have no enumerated right to vote, a House capped at 435, an oligarchic body the Electoral College controls who is president, the most people in prison and we know from the Church Committee that some of our "left" political leaders are FBI agents. And I will add the Snowden revelations about domestic surveillance. The US is much, much more worse than China. Cornel West knows what the government did to Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers and MOVE in Philadelphia. They even helped the South Africans capture Nelson Mandela. I think we need to be honest about who are the real authoritarians.
Well said
George Bush: They hate us for our freedoms: what freedoms? Freedom to do whatever they tell you to do.
Love these two truth tellers together❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Love how doc ended with: "my brotha." 🙌🙏🏼🙌
That gets olde quickly.
The Brazilians are looking at charging Bosanaro with the way he handled Brazil’s COVID response so … hello the US
It is called Greed and Selfishness😠
What is? Forcing others to do as you say because you've been brainwashed by corporate media and their doners big pharma? Take your "vaccine" (get your 2-3 months partial protection-lancet study) do some vitue signaling and leave everyone else alone.
you know what would be nice, President Wolf and VP West in 2024.
Yes.it would be the dream team but no more possible than Bernie in 2020. But I like the way you dream
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@@samwithoutlimits7766 Bernie won in 2020 just like he did in 2016.
Stolen primaries don't count as a win in my book
Wolff for DOL
@@nunyabizz50 he should certainly have been president! No steal, they said...
man i need more cornell west in my life
Cornell and Richard = Good Faith.
Thanks.
Best Wishes.
Found some more reality in here👍👍
In USA there are queues of refrigerated trucks outside hospitals to haul away dead bodies. Migrant workers have fled USA and return to their countries hence shortage of workers, empty shelves, soaring prices, etc..
2 Great Men. Normal. Decent. HONEST. 🎯
How I like to listen the Coronel. It’s a clean wind for everybody.
Nobody says it better.
Brilliant. Thank you, Dr. West and Dr. Wolff.
I could listen to them all day..Masters
This pandemic is a test of every nations leadership and competency, it has less of the political system adopted by each country. The success of countries that contain the spread of virus reflects on their abilities, leadership in managing crises, health care systems and trust by the people to do the right thing
Turns out the US is a failure needs a new system
@@qjtvaddict The US politican system is plutocracy, it is deeply embedded in the political landscape. Hence, changing is almost impossible.
@@ivanho7268 The French knew how to fix the problem 220 years ago.
@@L98fiero Yup the French Revolution !
@@wf645 It has to be recognized though that the government isn't necessarily the problem, it's the people that control the government.
Covid was the best thing that has ever happened to Pharma
He is a global treasure that we are so appeciative of but clearly dont deserve. Thank you Cornel West
I too wish so badly they would run for the White House!
And when the #publicEducation improves our #citizens can think our #WayForward in a #healthy and #sustainable manner.
Doc West is amazing...thats why they don't want him around...great job brother!
Maybe the COVID deaths in America are manufactured, inflated numbers? Like the unemployment data, like the quality of life data, and ect....?
He is right, absolute, totally egocentric freedom really is anarchy. You have to call a spade a spade. At the very least freedom has to involve respecting every other's human rights.
The only parts of that I would disagree with are your definition of anarchy and the exclusion of "other-than-human" from deserving respect. I think if anything humans have shown themselves the least of all Earth's beings to deserve respect ^_^ Let's be real.
@@noelliebtsie OK, Maybe anarchy wasn't the best choice of words. However having respect for others does not exclude anything, it just includes respect for others. And I did actually say the human rights of others meaning to respect the human rights of others who also respect other's human rights even if you don't respect the person. For example I could be in favor of the death penalty while you would not. But we would respect each other even despite our differences. It's like freedom of speech and mutual respect in spite of different opinions. How could we otherwise have a civil conversation?
Thank you🌎✊🌹🗽
As soon as I heard the key words freedom or rights chanted repeatedly... I know someone is trying to sell me something.
Or... maybe it's because the health of our people is so poor, with diabetes etc, when we get sick our bodies can't fight it off.
Toddlers also talk about their freedom to do as they like without mentioning their responsibilities and consequences that goes along with their freedom and liberties.
and their idea of freedom is trampling on others freedoms, freedom to not get sick for one.
@@misanthropyunhinged Mainly their freedom is to "own the Libs" without a thought about the consequences of their actions.
Freedom is a two edged sword. When a person makes a personal decision that goes against popular wisdom it does not necessarily mean it is done without weighing the consequence because you don't like their choices. You take a certain action or position because you are FREE to based on your beliefs, but so do those who disagree with your belief system.....they are not your enemy, lackwits, or dangerous heritics. Many are your friends and neighbors who are just exercising their freedom same as you
@@fredturner7787 You certainly have the right to choose what you put into your body when it doesn't affect others. But your argument is tantamount to claiming that it's also your right to drive impaired.
Both examples have a good possibility of eventually harming innocent victims. One with Covid and the other getting into a collision with another person while being physically impaired while driving.
@@alanw505 Driving impaired is as you say! It's a conscious choice to get behind the wheel.
That is why we have enacted laws against this behavior.
There is no law against not taking the jab yet number 1.
2. Those who receive the jab are also carriers, so no safer than the unvaccenated. So if I get the jab or not it won't effect your health.
3. That is why you elected to get the shot, to keep you safe.. good for you , you trust this process brought to you by your friends at Big Pharma
4 I choose what goes in my body it is the foundation of every other freedom, the right of personal physical integrity. My body My choice
There is absolutely no equivalency in your argument.
kudos to West
Cornel is a gem.
key word "debased"... precise description of the US.
Wonderful discussion!
Cornel West is so brilliant-he simply gets it.
He references the ccp and cdc as if they tell the truth. Love cornel but this take us a joke. The global damage from the covid response will soon be clear to all and covid will be the last thing everyones worried about.
Because, there are two Americas.
One is the rich America, who treat it seriously and protect themselves perfectly.
One is the poor America, who cares about the earnings much more than virus. And them keep on working and dying for the rich ones.
Yes, the freedom to act irresponsibly and put other lives at risk.
hot air... at least the chill is out of the room
The key word, public mobilization is everything
"we lied, we cheated, we stole." - pompeo
A conversation that not only stimulates the mind, it also re-ignites your subconscious.
Freedom but no unity.
Then why even call it a society? Call individualistic American anarchy.
Could it be Chinese are educated
Yes they literally starve for it the US is uneducated
We need to find out whether the numbers from China are accurate. If they are, we MUST find out why. We must demand answers.
When you have the statement or question, you are failing, you should trust the Chinese number and ask yourself what went wrong, or you never able find the answer. We have friends and relatives in China, they never told us people around them get infected and die after the first few bad months since the pandemic, and this is no need to lie to us, they have gone through fast lock down, completely test, isolated the infection and reopen for many times so far.
if you just follow your own media, you will never able to find out or trust the numbers from China are accurate.
Two brilliant minds in four minutes revealing the disrespect the American government has for its citizens. Americans have accepted this disrespect and often defend it. They believe demanding respect is asking for handouts from government. Instead it is the duty and responsibility of government to provide for citizens on. A single payer healthcare plan is not a free handout. It is taxpayer, citizen funded. Instead of paying premiums to insurance companies to skim off profits, what is paid in premiums could fund a single payer healthcare plan. It should include price negotiations. Be absent of co-pays and deductibles.
OECD healthcare to gdp has US #1, very sad.
I have said basically the same thing as Cornell. We are a society that has embraced hedonism and Sloth. So transfixed are we in our own individual insular lives. And in consumerism that basically eliminates solidarity of community. We have managed to put the shackles on ourselves and indentured the collective to unwanted bondage. We have become slaves to the unnatural and unacceptable box of a society. That can not know or understand what true freedom, liberty, or justice is. Equality is a fantastic concept we do not know or understand in the core. We virtue signal, while at the same time take the intolerable. Tightening the self imposed bonds that kills us. Whether in economic, personal, and collective down fall. We have lost the sanity and ability to enlightened communal self preservation. As individual blends into collective society. Which we have all become prisoners of.
An honest observation. All the platitudes and propaganda are found to be empty. A perverted understanding of freedom indeed.
the US' knows the price of everything but the value of nothing' Oscar Wilde
More empty gripes form Wolf and West.
Hello Richard, I enjoyed your conversation with Cornel West, thank you. With nothing but respect intended, the comparison with China is not a good one....they have a total covid deaths reporting problem I am afraid. India had much the same problems. In fact the amount of deaths in these countries really ran into the millions, multi millions. There are ways I know this that I can't share, suffice as to say information is now coming out that points to this severe under counting. The United States, like Canada, the EU, the UK, all have very regimented sophisticated reporting. TROTW (The rest of the world) I am sad to say do not. China has a severe Covid Zero policy, that eventually came home to roost. Once they opened back up their society it blew the lid off their daily infection rates becuase little to no one was vaxxed.....at one point there was 65 to 100 million infections per week. Crematoriums were overwhelmed....open burn pits in the country were being used. Anyway, just thought I would add to your basic understanding, take care. LarryC
"How do you make sense...?"
Two words: Central Planning
@Asherah 1147 Hur hur! Very puny. 🤓👌👎
Actually you mint them, that's how that actually works.
"Financial Planning" is just privileged BS.
There's my two cents for ya, Karen.
If American want total freedom and doing things their way and not following govt rules, orders etc, then why need a govt in the first place. Let dismantle the govt for good.
Have a free for all hellhole
anyone remember when Cornel said we should be rounding up the unvaxxed? Id love a link.
China is not obese.
yet
@@uttaradit2 True :) they should cleanse Mcdo and KFC ASAP
Yeah, that might contribute a fair bit too.
Most patients/victims were obesed middle-aged men, iirc.
Because they are starving
@@daddyleon According to the CDC, 78% of US hospitalizations were obese folks. That's why I'm in support of mandating veganism and mandatory minimum hydration levels!
:p
We have so much freedom here in the West... so much so that we have people needlessly dying of Covid-19.
I don't know anyone who died of Covid19 in Canada and US, research the statistics of Fentanyl overdose in US and Canada. Wake up sheeples to the truth, instead of parroting the Covid agenda and praising Chinese communist dictatorsip www.ama-assn.org/system/files/issue-brief-increases-in-opioid-related-overdose.pdf
Modern man is not the man who goes off to discover himself, his secrets, and his hidden truth; he is a man who tries to invest himself in something beneficial for the future.
money disvalue over time, so it's a stupid idea to keep money in banks... investment is the best way forward as it grows over time and country economy activity increase
It's not how much money you keep, but how much money you make, how hard it works for you and how many generations you keep it for.
The rich sees an economic crisis as a garage sale also the rich stays rich by investing and diversifying their portfolio with stocks, Crypto currency and Forex trading which is the wisest thing every individual needs to do and it's real profiting.
Who really knows how many people died in China. If you actually believe Chinese government reports it just shows how childish and naive you really are. You can't even believe Biden and the Democrats. Governments lie continuously. And with Democrats the truth is whatever they say it is. You two are a couple of dopes.
I invested $35,000 for a long term investment on Mr Albert Willie platform, and am very happy it was not a scam work thanks Mr ALBERT.
To presume that the China mortality rate is accurate and then to use that as the basis of comparison is disingenuous.
So many people are proud to stupid.
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Please seek to interview iamjohncullen!
In the 50's Polio deaths, in the US decreased due to Universal healthcare.
CHINA is ACTUALLY RICHER... IT'S PEOPLE ARE CARED FOR
I trust Chinas numbers.
Lost all respect for this formerly great man. He pushes the jabs rants about the unvaxxed. Jimmy Dore has it right. We are heading to a dystopian nightmare.
I love Jimmy Dore too, but keep in mind that he and Stef are vaccinated. He's one of the few who had a bad reaction, however, and is now in a study. He then began doing a lot of research on Big Pharma and all these cringe worthy mandates. Jimmy is NOT an antivaxxer, but he is against all these mandates used to further social control and create a more dystopian future that remind me of Black Mirror.
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't know how you can consider knowing China's covid numbers. Also, China doesn't have free healthcare. I've heard regular everyday people who have families and/or know people in China talk about the extremely cruel lock downs. Now, there are areas around China that report their numbers and some of the numbers are quite high. So, if the areas around China are some what high to me that give some indication that the numbers in China are also higher than reported by China. The US numbers are also unreliable. I agree the healthcare system needs to be re-hauled. If you want to solve the healthcare problem for the better then you have to oust the middle men/women. Dr. West rant on patriarchy and white supremacy is BS. It's not the patriarchy or white supremacy that is the cause of our problems in healthcare it's usury and classism. There are three areas where capitalism doesn't work and that's healthcare, education and housing. And, yes capitalism has failed in other areas as well but nothing like it has in the three areas I just mentioned. So, work on fixing those big three problems which is doable and stop talking about non-sense like the patriarchy or white supremacy. In other countries they have the same problems and it's not the patriarchy or white supremacy. Countries like China, India, Brazil, Japan, etc... it's usury and classism. And, it's always been usury and classism.
The only numbers coming out of China are filtered by their autocratic government first, so we have ignore them as noise. China's government will do anything to save face. There is no legitimate reason for the US not to have socialized medicine. The US doesn't have socialized medicine because the US government is bought by the wealthy. Public healthcare would eliminate a huge lever that businesses have to indenture and abuse workers. China's self-reported covid numbers and the US healthcare dilemma are not connected. Attempts to do so, weaken the argument.
The root is private property in the marxist sense. Society's productive forces are privately owned. A handful of people own everything required to produce the necessities and the vast majority working class must work/be exploited by and for the benefit of this relative handful. And when social labour is carried out to produce whatever, large surpluses of value (above worker's collective wages) are produced which the owners control. Social labor processes with private appropriation of the products/value. Those who actually physically produce don't control what they produce and those who don't, do. Cornell West (like Chris Hedges) is an ordained Christian minister who might throw out the words socialism or Karl Marx every now and again, but he ain't no revolutionary. Cornell West (like Chris Hedges) doesn't have/rejects a class analysis and thus does not support working class struggle to take state power to defeat the bourgeoisie. We must eventually hold humanity's productive forces as the common property of all and centrally plan in a rational way human economy. Working class struggle for socialism is the only way forward for humanity.
How many Chinse you have talk to, try to talk to 100 Chinese, but not just trust that 1-2 because that was fitted to your prejudice.
@@jxmai7687 I watch/read Chinese medias like CGTN, Global Times and Xinua, listen to and read Economic professors sch as Richard Wolff, David Harvey and Michael Hudson as they have first hand knowledge working in China. I examine and analyse data, like poverty numbers or deaths from SARS-CoV-2 In China for example.
@@d.russellmoros7841 That is good for you, but my question was not for you. 🤣
4:00 minutes of pure bullshit
I like both of them but we still need a vaccinated population. I can be a Socialist & believe in science at the same time. The economic system may not work but I still believe in science, as a physiologist.
No we dont... People will decide for themselves what goes in their own bodies...
You "believe" in religion not science, dude. Science is made to be questioned and debated and questioned and debated some more. The science is far FAR from settled on c0vid and the mRNA j@bs so let's throw that out there. The system is corrupt our regulatory agencies are bought-and-paid-for. Media's biggest financial contributor is pharma. Let's get real. No we do not need to all be vaccinated and sure as f*** not against our will with this c0vid authoritarianism bullshite pushed by democrats and Bush Republicans on behalf of WEF and big pharma.
yeah, you have to add “authoritarian” in your comments about China, don’t you.
Because it's true.
@@Sinleqeunnini yeah, don’t bring you liberal bs to a Marxist channel.
I agree. He mentioned public and civic life as something that reduced the spread of covid and yet inserted "authoritarian." People just don't understand that China has played the capitalist game better in order to be a player in world markets. While on the other hand, has reduced sanctions and embargoes from the capitalist West being a socialist country. Furthermore, the Chinese people are free to travel anywhere. I don't believe in Western propaganda.
@@Sinleqeunnini America has a vaccine mandate, China does not. America is the authoritarian, rogue nation not China.
@John Hackney well we don’t have Vax mandate while having some buffoons running around protesting masks, so I would say it’s not quite accurate
You are ignoring that the number of covid deaths and cases are enormously overblown (PCR has 50% to 95% false positives AND flu, pnemonia, cancer and even motorcycle accidents are counted as covid). Perhaps China is simply NOT counting flu and pneumonia as due to covid.
China has less fat people. Simple
Virus thrives in fatty environment. Vegan baby - all the way!!
没完没了的给自己找借口有意思嘛！一年多以前，中国就几乎没有新冠了。要不是国外拉胯，导致无数次被进口产品传染，我们连后面这些小的outbreaks 都不会有。
Come back to reality they are not counting flu and motorcycle accidents as covid deaths lmfao Maybe do a cursory search on China covid protocol.. One person tests positive they lock down the radius, no public transport in or out, no private cars on the road, all schools and stores shut down except food and medicine, everyone locked in their apartments with only one family member allowed to get food every 2 days, guards outside the apartment building checking everyones temp... Then there is the US "lockdown" which is just wearing a piece of cloth over your face at target , we can't even get the hogs to do that. Even worse these people are organizing to protest the piece of cloth instead of the deteriorating material conditions of the workers in this country.
Youre obviously a reich wing nutbag because you have exactly the opposite of reality.
most test show on average 20% false NEGATIVE not positive. False positives are actually almost non existent because of the type of test that Covid test are. They are whats called "highly specific" which means they almost never give false positive results, flu or flu shots can not trigger a covid test. If a covid test was the type that was "sensitive vs specific" then it would be just the opposite and have lots of false positives but that isnt the case.
None of the above is ever counted as covid because every single mayor of every city and every governor of every state are all working and spinning as hard as they possibly can to HIDE as many covid deaths as possible to make themselves look better for re-election, this is a known fact because several have been caught red handed doing so. For instance we have no clue how many have died in Floriduh but you can bet its at least double what that lunatic Desantis claims, same with that crook Cuomo in NY
The real death toll for covid in the US is easily way over 1 million and within 10 years because of the damage to heart lungs kidneys etc from long covid the death toll is going to be many millions.
youre just spreading reich wing political propaganda.