TF2 | The Most Underrated Weapon
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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In this video I explain why the Brass Beast is the most underrated weapon in TF2 and how to use it effectively.
Let me know what you think!
0:00 Intro
0:10 Bad weapons in TF2
1:02 Brass Beast most underrated?
5:32 Damage comparison
6:00 Pubber's reaction to Hale's Own Brass Beast
6:14 How to make the Brass Beast work
11:58 Summary
12:39 Outro
Minigun damage comparison video:
• Minigun | Brass Beast ...
Using ToonHUD
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I didn't even go into the stupidest argument of the soyboys talking down the Brass Beast:
They say miniguns in general deal such a high amount of damage at point-blank range anyway, that the 20 % damage increase of the Brass Beast doesn't matter. This upside allegedly doesn't do anything, because all miniguns deal very high damage anyway at a very close range.
True, you might not see that much of a change at point-blank range, but the damage increase shines more with the distance to the target getting longer. Most of the time with Heavy, you don't kill at point-blank range, but at medium ranges, this is exactly where the Brass Beast's damage increase becomes apparent. Check out the damage comparison video for proof.
Teal opal's entire brass beast segment in a nutshell
Not to like completely rain on your parade, but don't we have a significantly better mingun that specializes in medium range?
Surely hitting more shots is around the same as hitting fewer but more damaging shots right? While also not being slow as a snail?
Just food for thought
Weapons that require you to play around them rather than already enhancing the way you should actually play are bad. There's a reason Brass Beast isn't used in competitive.
@@dazeen9591 heavy in general doesn't see much use in competitive anyway since he's an offclass
@@VagueCastle649 Highlander exists. But brass beast isn't even used for last defense, despite that scenario suiting the weapon.
GRU with chocolate has a funny interaction, where you regain all your lost health during eating animation (if you dont take damage from other sources). And if you like being heavier than heavy, the max hp is fun .
I never knew that, gotta try that out!
In my opinion the downsides aren't that bad. As my grandfather once told me
"A fish in a barrel is just a vulnerable standing still as it is squirming."
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12:06 Engineer takes flight lol
FishStickOnAStick made a cool video where he recommended using a shotgun with the brass beast. Because the brass beast requires so much commitment, it's good idea to use a shotgun until you get into a good position. I've used this loadout for a while, and it's pretty fun.
Fantastic video man! I’ll check out more of your stuff! The brass beast absolutely shreds especially in MVM. I actually just got done playing in a highlander match with a guy using the brass beast 💀. The biggest problem is he’s more vulnerable to projectiles and headshots since he’s basically at a stand still.
As a heavy main that loves both the tomislav and the brassbeast though i do need more practice with it, but brass beast is no joke I do remember a chad heavy with it and we were both at a long distances, having the tomi thought I could easily kill him at a distance but then HE WON! that damage resistance is no joke never fight a brass beast heavy one on one. Though the advantage tomislav does have against brass beast user is well the silent rev and faster spin up, repositioning is key to fight against a brass beast, always surprise BB never leting them rev, it should be a battle of positioning.
Also there's some people recomending the chocolate with the GRU, but as someone who does use that combo quite often as I'm experimenting with it, you're better off using the banana as it is, if anything the bar is better with fists of steel for extra hardiness.
But Banana is too good yes there is this glitch but... 200 health every 10 seconds beats 100 health specially if you recieved more than a 100 damage, and it's a way more selfish lunchbox item, since outside of that small benefit you're going to have to take a lot more health packs, which why is a heavy taking health packs from the team come on get a sandvich or eat more chocolate wich is a lot less time fighting and more oportunities for spies, trust me they'll learn you have a patern and exploit that weakness.
If you want to do something different go ahead but there is a good reason why heavy players prefer the banana over the chocolate EVEN with the GRU, it's self suficient at a very low cost.
I wholeheartedly agree.
When using the Brass Beast, there were some long distance 1on1 fights with a Tomislav heavy. I can't say I won all of those fights, but a good number of them.
You didn't mention how heavy can also look up while spun up so that his big hands block his head. Very useful if you are expecting to get headshot by a sniper. This makes you especially hard to kill with the half hp dmg resistance!
Yeah I didn't mention it, because I didn't know. Thanks, I will try it out.
@Hardinator Yay, a heart and I brought something useful to the conversation! Thanks and gl in your games!
Honestly I understand why people tends to stay away from using the gun.But to me,Oksana is a really good gun to use whenever I'm rolling with my Shotguns,which I don't think should be picked over for Heavy who prefers lunchbox items,cuz not only I get to play safely,I also get to mow down enemies as the most lethal forces to be reckon
in 6's regarding last defense with uber disad, brass heavy is meta and far stronger than either stock or tomi. having both a lvl 3 sentry + brass on either side of the cap point is extremely good at wasting the enemies uber duration advantage. he also does so much damage that you have to shoot him but at the same time you don't want to because he can tank upwards of 700+ dmg if his med is behind him buffing + arrows, so it's a catch-22 for the aggressors. he ends up making enough space and time for his team to defend the cap point post-uber without them having to die for it, and if he happens to survive the post uber he will mow you down anyway. the further decreased mobility isn't relevant because people could always shoot at you when you're spun up, in-fact, you're relying on it as a heavy to make space for your team
The intro got you a new sub
to put it simply: tomislav minizes heavy's weaknesses, brass beast maximizes heavy's strengths.
I'm pretty sure the main point the other tf2bers are making (and I've watched a lot of them, even the more obscure tf2bers) is that they acknowledge that of course you have to adapt and play the brass beast differently then the other miniguns, but the issue is that the adapted way you have to play is an inferior way to play in comparison to the standard playstyle of other miniguns. Having to always pre-rev early or be even more cautious of sniper sightlines due to the reduced mobility, etc. is slowing down the gameplay. I forget which tf2ber it was that said it best but he had said something along the lines of that heavy is good because unlike a sentry gun the heavy is a MOBILE high damage source that allows him to push the enemy team physically back by his existence, which of course is something the brass beast won't be doing at the ridiculously slow speed you move at.
Now that being said I agree the brass beast isn't bad and you are correct that it is a good weapon. I use it myself in certain scenarios (and of course in MvM where the game is primed to take advantage of it's abilities best since higher damage is the #1 important stat in that mode over anything else pretty much). However I don't think the other tf2bers are mistaken or giving out false information about it. Sure they might have a hot take or two (kind of like this video which one could argue in and of itself is a hot take) but for the most part they acknowledge the weapons strengths and weaknesses pretty fairly. In most of the vids I've watched about it, they make the same points I listed above that you have to change your playstyle for it, and that playstyle change isn't as good of a playstyle as the standard playstyle since you're just too slow while revved up.
Anyway all that rambling aside, good video with good tips in any case. It's good for people to understand that heavy doesn't have bad miniguns and the brass beast and is in fact underrated.
Here's my own free brass beast tip: the Dalokohs bar/Fishcake is good with it if you don't have a medic with you since by increasing your max health, it means that the damage resistance will kick in at a higher health threshold than with other lunchbox items (175 health instead of at 150) which means it will also technically be blocking damage for longer due to this (this same tip also works with Natacsha which has the same damage resistances).
I think that this is a good video but you said that 20% is the biggest damage bonus but that’s incorrect the direct hit has 25% and the warriors spirit has a 30% increase. Otherwise enjoyed the video keep it up!
You are right, thanks! The right way to word it would have been: a high damage increase resulting in the highest DPS in the game.
"Holy shit! The Brass BEAST!!"
My medic after I wiped the enemy team on dustbowl with one Kritz boost.
I don’t care what anyone says, the Brass Beast is my favorite minigun in the game. It kinda changes your playstyle as Heavy and it really teaches you how to play defensively. However, it can be useful on offensive situations, like on payload maps.
You can also use the chocolate with the GRU to basically get back to full health. If you swap to the GRU over and over till you have minimum health, then eat the chocolate, youll have about 250 health which will very quickly come back to 300, along with some minor regen for a few seconds after that.
I usually score 90-100 points each game using brass beast with the family business
Ever heard of that one bad game that used to be good?
It had this character, who could turn into a massive chaigun that mowed down anything it was pointed at, at the cost of his movement... Sadly he was reworked and no longer does this, and the game and it's creators went down the drain
Yeah, the brass beast is basically the same, exept people don't complain when you use it.
Ah, yes, the Lego guy
Ironically enough the slower rev speed is a reminder of how Heavy originally had the same rev speed on his stock minigun when the game first came out plus it had worse accuracy as well.
I unironically use the Hibernating Bear set just because I can see the potential of the combo, the primary is defensive while the secondary and melee or offensive juggle, if it wasn't for Valve screwing up the steak and warrior's spirit.
Dear God, you are a Chad for using the Bear Gloves.
ah yes, another fellow brass beast enjoyer. What a delight. I enjoy preamtive gameplay rather than reactionary one, so i love the gamesense and map knowledge required to set up a defensive hold - not camping tho - or just revving early. Classic is nice too, but the brab was my first hale's own of all time, in like 130 hours gametime. Great Fun with kgb crits tho arguably ineffective due to 5 sec only crits. On the note of becoming immobile, once you crouch while firing, you can no longer move while crouched as long as you are still revved. very frustrating when minimizing hitbox behind cover, since heavy shoots out his eyes. I prefer Fists of Steel for malee and dalokohs personally. And actually, unless you push into the awaiting team, quickfix works wonders with brab, getting pumped with 100 health/ sec while hovering at half health under fire means your resistances are up permanently for the uber duration - and noone expects you to survive for that long :) also, buff banner mini crits are neat-o
Add me on steam for some brass beast bros gameplay :)
I think the video itself is underrated
Good stuff
What future videos do you plan to make?
Vaccinator and Black Box gameplay as well as a new challenge video and a weapon analysis video coming up.
The Your eternal reward is criminally underrated.
It definitely is, it's my favorite knife. The Brass Beast is a little more underrated than the YER in my opinion, because you see it even less being used. Many people have done a video on why the YER is good and underrated, so I won't do that. I got another weapon analysis planned, though :)
@@Hardinator Through my 26 hours of spy I've used the YER the most
What about the reserve shooter?
Im relatively new to tf2 (100 hours but mostly on like 3 community servers) and recently started using the brass beast. I loved it and couldnt tell why people hated it lmao
Meta slaves hate it when peopple have fun / play well with weapons they heard are bad :)
Don’t hate on my main man the pompson
Based. Sorry to hate on it, I used it a lot, too, but now I'm done with this when playing seriously.
i tried it once when i got it and never changed it to any other
Big respect! Most people do the opposite, try it once and never use it again :)
What's the song name at the start
Getting Dirty - Silent Partner
The music is slightly too loud and it drowns out your voiceover a little bit.
Personally, I think it works best with a Family Business. Brass Beast with a sandwich is very vulnerable to corner peeking, long range spam and flanks, plus its long spin-up time makes it dangerous to spin up while enemy is aware. A shotgun, used basically as primary, allows you to be both mobile and dangerous while getting into positions where Brass Beast can shine the best.
So, basically you're switching between a fat scout and a mobile sentry constantly
@@This-is-not-K Accurate. I also often use Fists of Steel, too, for an additional switch-up of a wall.
You do lose a lunchbox item, but I personally don't experience it as that much of a downside. There are plenty of healthkits around the map and if medic is pocketing then you can always route near one.
I have never been a Shotgun kidna guy, at the end it comes down to personal preference. I need those Bananas...
I use it but i like Amanda better
The brass piss
Weapons that require you to play around them rather than already enhancing the way you should actually play are bad. There's a reason Brass Beast isn't used in competitive.
Not here to glaze but as a highlander heavy player, the brass beast does have it's niche's on payload especially
its called fun, i know its difficult for meta slaves to understand
@@switZ7Q you aren't going to even reach the cart with the Brass Beast and you'll just get sniped or backstabbed. Or even get hit by a crit sticky across the map since defense runs kritz usually.
@@nuhrii3449 we are not arguing fun here. We are arguing viability. That's the whole point of this video. But honestly even viability aside, the Brass Beast is really not a fun weapon to use. At that point just play another game.
Bastion from Overwatch and Ruckus from Paladins are way more fun than Brass Beast heavy, sorry not sorry.
The Frontier Justice, the Gunslinger, the Huntsman and the Loose Cannon (just to name a few) all require to change up your playstyle drastically from stock and play around them. None of those weapons are considered bad.
I know what you mean, though. For weapons that function differently from stock you obviously need to play around them. The fallacy, that the Brass Beast functions like stock and therefore is bad, because it needs big adjustments when using it, is a common problem people have with the Brass Beast. This weapon does not function like stock you are fkin immobile while you shoot.
grrrrr....
Worst Heavy primary
Womp womp
Like you said it makes you an extreme heavy which makes the downsides of heavy also extreme. I don't care what weapon I am using my shotgun pilled brain tells me to shove whatever weapon I am using in to the enemy no matter what for max damage ramp up and to kill those who dare to escape. It is cool that you have found a weapon that most would just disregard as trash to be the best weapon for you as variety is what makes tf2 tf2.
Yooo medic has a youtube chanel
where do you edit your videos
OpenShot Video Editor
Good stuff