Designing the TF2 Weapons My Fans Created

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  • @OPGrace2199
    @OPGrace2199 Год назад +1584

    Honestly the Hot! Bottle seemed a lot more like a beaker of Magma than a potion so my mind went to some kind of failed Saxton Hale hot sauce that was literally just lava but eventually recalled. Imagine if it was like a bottle of A1 or Tapatío instead of a Molotov

    • @Henrex2000
      @Henrex2000 Год назад +137

      A hot sauce bottle used as a Molotov

    • @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
      @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 Год назад +270

      Saxton Hale using lava as hot sauce is quite possibly the most on-brand thing I can imagine as well!

    • @AgentTasmania
      @AgentTasmania Год назад +29

      MANNbasco. Gotcha!jang
      Many options for name tags for the user's favourite brands, varieties, and puns thereupon.

    • @cetadel6597
      @cetadel6597 Год назад +68

      Real Mann's Flaming Sauce

    • @thanoid2373
      @thanoid2373 Год назад +29

      TBH it should have been a molotov in a soda can, some sort of "spicy" critacola or something

  • @dropkick9547
    @dropkick9547 Год назад +2682

    Funnily enough the Scout Molotov indirectly buffs the Volcano Stick, and actually gives it a purpuse

    • @darksuperganon
      @darksuperganon Год назад +328

      It could also pair with an Axtinguisher Pyro because ironically Scout's molotov is better at lighting lots of people on fire all at once than the Gas Passer. Scouts throws the molotov and then both him and a friendly Pyro go clean up with melees if that's a thing you really wanted to do.

    • @Goat_gamering
      @Goat_gamering Год назад +111

      It is sun on a stick but yes

    • @IM_ABYSSAL
      @IM_ABYSSAL Год назад +82

      @feketenorbert9421 "uhm actually it's sun on a stick" 🤓

    • @hankandianbrown7363
      @hankandianbrown7363 Год назад +81

      @@Goat_gamering honestly I like volcano stick better

    • @StitchPen
      @StitchPen Год назад +32

      @@IM_ABYSSAL Aaaahhhh SHAAADUP.

  • @BunnyNotFound
    @BunnyNotFound Год назад +447

    The curveball is a perfect name and it is on par with all of the valve names. Nothing wrong with it.

    • @AbruptAvalanche
      @AbruptAvalanche Год назад +2

      I feel like it would be kinda weird since the pitching machine doesn't actually throw curveballs though.

    • @doctormedic2682
      @doctormedic2682 Год назад +29

      @@AbruptAvalanche I mean they sorta do. Technically they (can) throw sliders, but in terms of naming; close enough

    • @RazzBeri1
      @RazzBeri1 Год назад +13

      also fits because the curveball is drastically different from all the other primaries, it’s literally throwing a spanner in the works.

    • @gabegunderman482
      @gabegunderman482 Год назад +6

      I also thought the name 'The Perfect Pitch' was a good idea.

    • @jc_art_
      @jc_art_ 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@gabegunderman482 that actually sounds great, but maybe itd be better suited as a scout cosmetic name. Idk what the cosmetic would be but something to do with being a singer i assume. Idk, tf2 names almost always have double meanings, and the phrase 'perfect pitch' already has 2 meanings, so itd just make sense to be used for something with relevancy to both meanings, rather than just the one.

  • @sgtpepper861
    @sgtpepper861 Год назад +227

    I’d say an interesting mechanic for the “All-Star’s cannon” could be that successive hits decrease charge time (maxing out at say 5 and a 5-10% increase per hit)

    • @Goat_gamering
      @Goat_gamering Год назад +18

      I think it would be a bit too dragon's fury with that

    • @jamesmorrison6204
      @jamesmorrison6204 Год назад +7

      I thought an interesting mechanic would be the reversed damage falloff like the Crossbow.

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад +6

      One idea that I had was to gain your shot back if you get a hit, which I think would be a better replacement for the faster firing speed Blue implemented on my weapon

    • @teddydaly-dh9bs
      @teddydaly-dh9bs 2 месяца назад

      @@Goat_gameringnot really a bad thing

  • @Caliburn_
    @Caliburn_ Год назад +132

    The Scout Molotov combined with the Sun on a Stick would actually be such a fun combo

  • @eliasdex1236
    @eliasdex1236 Год назад +208

    I think giving The Physician's Fix the stat "Removes debuffs from teammates" (similar to shield charges) would be a cool addition!

    • @Mai.Calico
      @Mai.Calico Год назад

      Nice animations.

    • @thealmightyidiot9574
      @thealmightyidiot9574 Год назад +2

      I think that would be a good addition
      I would also add the part that it would or wouldn’t (I don’t really know which would be better) gain UberCharge to compare it to the Ubersaw

    • @epicblue00
      @epicblue00 Год назад

      So just a fuck pyro tool

    • @AmaraTheBarbarian
      @AmaraTheBarbarian Год назад

      I don't think we can add anything to it, I think the idea is super OP as is, but I could be wrong. As a replacement for the secondary it's balanced by the crossbow and mostly fine, but as a replacement for melee it gives you, IMO, too much utility. You've got your short range team heal in the medi gun, your self defense plus additional self heal in the blutsager, and (while yes, on a cooldown) short range AOE team/self heal plus enemy damage.

    • @torgerthorkildson725
      @torgerthorkildson725 11 месяцев назад

      It would also just be an upgrade to the amputater

  • @rexanderson4585
    @rexanderson4585 Год назад +646

    I'm pretty sure that so-called suppressed carbine was actually a picture of a can Cannon which is basically a gun that fires cans out of it by you loading blanks into the magazine and a can into the enlarged barrel

    • @sorararah
      @sorararah Год назад +65

      I can now imagine a second variation of the weapon except, instead of shooting baseballs, it shoots cans of BONK! so it's a real weapon type

    • @epicassassin8502
      @epicassassin8502 Год назад +18

      @@sorararah charge it up to launch cans of crit o cola

    • @lukelofquist3734
      @lukelofquist3734 Год назад +1

      You are correct. But I'm pretty sure the can cannon was invented in the 2000's. Tf2 canonically takes place at around the ww2/cold war era.

    • @epicassassin8502
      @epicassassin8502 Год назад +3

      @@lukelofquist3734 china lake loaded with cans

    • @someoneyoudontknow1049
      @someoneyoudontknow1049 Год назад +4

      @@lukelofquist3734 some countries made rifle grenades that function similar to the can cannon as far back as the world wars

  • @angiovanni7356
    @angiovanni7356 Год назад +133

    The Molotov could be a scout AND pyro weapon, first because fire, obviously, but as a weapon for the fire of revolution cosmetic set added in the most recent case, as that has a Molotov too

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Год назад +26

      And be a lot less utter garbage than the Gas Passer.

    • @tosdy8480
      @tosdy8480 Год назад +7

      I think it would fit well on the heavy because it would work well with the huo long heater

    • @novaseer
      @novaseer Год назад +1

      @@Appletank8 meanwhile mvm

    • @monke7919
      @monke7919 Месяц назад

      Honestly I don't know if gameplay wise it'd be good but I could see a molotov working for demoman as something like the kaber but fire based

  • @adversarry
    @adversarry Год назад +619

    Designing weapons in TF2 have always seemed like a strange case to me

    • @darker8484
      @darker8484 Год назад +1

      I hate you, have my like and LEAVE.

    • @cheesepop7175
      @cheesepop7175 Год назад +54

      Top comments have always seemed like a strange case to me

    • @cheesepop7175
      @cheesepop7175 Год назад +36

      Replies have always seemed like a strange case to me

    • @3st3ban70
      @3st3ban70 Год назад +12

      this joke won't stop being funny

    • @muffinman9018
      @muffinman9018 Год назад +35

      @@3st3ban70 These jokes have always seemed like a strange case to me

  • @NuclearNecro
    @NuclearNecro Год назад +460

    i'm still shocked that we never had a molotov item for the scout, despite his personality and him having offensive throwables with the guillotine
    i actually had an idea similar to the one in the video for the molotov weapon in a dream, except it was named "The Extra-spicy Shake" and it had a 10 second recharge instead

    • @mrsentrybuster
      @mrsentrybuster Год назад +49

      Also the sun on a stick might actually not rely on other people to be almost-not-useless

    • @gabrielbarron7667
      @gabrielbarron7667 Год назад +21

      @@mrsentrybuster i didnt even think about the combos with the sun on a stick. with that you could oneshot any class thats not a heavy or a soldier and leave the soldier at something like 20 health after all the afterburn.

    • @Aibadenshi
      @Aibadenshi Год назад +15

      It's basically a AoE Guillotine that assist friendly Pyro with Free Crit and make the sun on the stick OP due to it being the Bushwacka combo for scout.

    • @mrsentrybuster
      @mrsentrybuster Год назад +6

      See, this gives the sun on a stick attention

    • @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708
      @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 Год назад +9

      Anarchist scout

  • @Epic-ft2bg
    @Epic-ft2bg Год назад +774

    The fact he found the baseball launcher image from a tf2 clone of all things is insane
    Edit: holy crap this blew up overnight

    • @RealErdenman
      @RealErdenman Год назад +40

      "Yeah!"
      -Scout

    • @Mai.Calico
      @Mai.Calico Год назад +45

      Funny how that those developers had the same idea as great blue

    • @odl3144
      @odl3144 Год назад +23

      Typical colors 2

    • @theflyingfish66
      @theflyingfish66 Год назад +47

      He also didn't recognize the weapon in the "All-Star Cannon" image the user posted, he thought it was a modern suppressed submachine gun when it's clearly a Can Cannon upper on an AR15 (a big tube you can put on an AR15 that fires soda cans and tennis balls using 5.56 blanks)

    • @smolbrendan5978
      @smolbrendan5978 Год назад +15

      the "baseball launcher" is actually just the default Snowball Cannon gear from 2009. they did not make that design

  • @hoofly1323
    @hoofly1323 Год назад +41

    Another way the Peaceful Protest (The Molotov) could be styled is as a Bonk! soda bottle, and it could be called "The Fanboy's Firebomb". I do really enjoy the look of the ale bottle but I just think it'd be another interesting styling

  • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447
    @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447 Год назад +150

    for the 2 medic weapons, I think one neat mechanic would be combining them both. what if you had the jar, then you can press right click to shake it or something and swap between the effects.

    • @rafouk6867
      @rafouk6867 Год назад +29

      and like you have a 3 seconds countdown to swap it back

    • @afasdfasafd314
      @afasdfasafd314 Год назад +12

      damn, i like that, but both would have to be nerfed bad to be balanced

    • @thepixelartists5756
      @thepixelartists5756 Год назад +39

      @@afasdfasafd314 the thing is, I don't think they need to be nerfed, *it would compete with the übersaw for the melee slot*

  • @smallangrycrab
    @smallangrycrab Год назад +59

    Scout being given a way to ignite enemies unironically provides more of a genuine use to the sun on a stick.

  • @lukizard9625
    @lukizard9625 Год назад +112

    Scout with the power to light enemies on fire would give the sun on a stick an actual use

    • @meeedicthethird6423
      @meeedicthethird6423 Год назад +3

      That basicly what jarate bushwacka combo is, but now insted of a slow sniper that you could outrun, you have a scout that always does crits. Maybe the sun stick from hell would need a nerf

    • @pacifistminigun3987
      @pacifistminigun3987 Год назад +5

      @@meeedicthethird6423 i personally think the "molotov" Simply shouldn't deal splash damage, but just set on fire. That way, the Stick can no longer one shot weak classes

    • @bitcidic
      @bitcidic Год назад +3

      ⁠@@meeedicthethird6423 the reason that combo is stupid on sniper is because sniper is intended to be weak in close range combat, wherease with scout it fits a lot better. For example, the axtinguisher works with pyro because he’s intended to be close range. Although I still agree with you that the sun on a stick even with the molotov is poorly designed. One weapon that basically relies you have one other specific weapon equipped to work is pretty bad design. Scout running at you with his melee is a lot easier to deal with than you’d think, and the crits have to be worth it over scattergun meatshots which is not easy to do without it being broken

  • @qcubic
    @qcubic Год назад +62

    Hey Blue, thanks for the mention for my weapon concept! I'll be sure to take the advice you've given for future weapon concepts!

    • @DRAGONFLAIR2008
      @DRAGONFLAIR2008 Год назад +5

      hello fellow concepter

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад +4

      @DRAGONFLAIR2008 Oh hey man!

    • @DRAGONFLAIR2008
      @DRAGONFLAIR2008 Год назад +5

      @@qcubic howdy

    • @ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk
      @ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk 8 месяцев назад

      I think you could do some good shit. Maybe try a Soldier primary? They're easy to balance, and it seems perfect considering your idea was a projectile.

    • @lambsauce5312
      @lambsauce5312 4 месяца назад

      He ruined ur weapon imo, not being able to 2 tap a medic (SCOUT'S BREAD AND BUTTER) is very stupid
      It should do like 70-120 damage, with huntsmanesque velocity and charge time, and maybe like a shot every second?

  • @cook_it
    @cook_it Год назад +56

    Imagine if he had made a molo-bonk instead of a molotov, that would fit scout way more and also explains the "explosion damage" with metal frags flying around (the can doesn't break afterall when thrown).

    • @Oxygen1004
      @Oxygen1004 Год назад +16

      "Bonk! Nuclear Blast"

    • @badideagenerator2315
      @badideagenerator2315 Год назад +1

      There's a tf2 inspired roblox game where the scout class has a throwable soda can that causes the target's head hitbox to expand

    • @jackhe760
      @jackhe760 Год назад +1

      @@badideagenerator2315flappy men

  • @FIVEBASKET
    @FIVEBASKET Год назад +81

    This will be a great series

  • @eloquence_4143
    @eloquence_4143 Год назад +27

    I think the All-Star’s Cannon was originally intended to be a T-Shirt Cannon, since the flavor text reads that it was “repurposed for the distribution of your favorite sports merchandise”, though baseballs would also make some sense in this context.

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад +15

      As the creator of it, it was actually meant to fire soda cans like some rifle accessories have. Just look up "soda can launcher" and you'll get a general idea whay I was going for

  • @aduckwalkeduptoalemonadestand
    @aduckwalkeduptoalemonadestand Год назад +22

    Source could break in Medieval mode if you replace the bone saw

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Год назад +11

    If there's any class that should get a molotov, it'd probably be demo. Seriously, they're literally weaponized alcohol that explodes, it'd fit perfectly for him.

    • @dovahkat9635
      @dovahkat9635 Год назад +11

      Counterpoint: Demo would never waste perfectly good alcohol by burning it. If he's burning it, that means he's not drinking it!

    • @badideagenerator2315
      @badideagenerator2315 Год назад

      @Dovahkat963 make it a lunchbox item that gives him incendiary grenades/stickies in exchange for being 50% more vulnerable to fire damage when he drinks it.

    • @monke7919
      @monke7919 Месяц назад

      And pyro because pyro. Those 2

    • @DRAGONFLAIR2008
      @DRAGONFLAIR2008 Месяц назад

      Or scout because sun in a stick

  • @kwableguy9795
    @kwableguy9795 Год назад +37

    For the first weapon, I think a better idea for increasing firing speed would be to take an idea from the Dragon's Fury and have the firing speed dramatically increase after you successfully hit someone, and keep the base firing speed slower like on the original concept. (Maybe there could be an additional stipulation, for example you only get the boosted firing speed if you hit a charged shot)

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад

      One of my first reworks to my idea was to gain your shot back on a successful hit, and I think that would've been the best approach since it's pretty simple

  • @alphabattack
    @alphabattack Год назад +10

    Scout's weapon SHOULD be a T shirt cannon so it doesn't overlap with the sandman

  • @Samael3110
    @Samael3110 Год назад +48

    Weapon Concepts in TF2 have always seemed like a strange case to me. On one hand there are a lot of great ideas floating around the community. But on the other hand, Valve never pays the game any attention, so these never have a chance of making it into the game.

    • @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708
      @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 Год назад +2

      Tf2 is a victim of valve's poor corporate structure

    • @phoonwax
      @phoonwax Год назад +5

      but tf2 classic exists and people are crazy enough to add custom weapons to that though most of the servers i see are pretty ridiculous

  • @keyboardspam1458
    @keyboardspam1458 Год назад +12

    For the medic weapon I tried to give a name that played off both of the submitted designs. Considering they are similar weapons I wanted to give them similar names that reflect their purpose, either supportive for the healing, or offensive with the crits. With that I mind I submit the twin names of The Therapist's Tonic for the healing, and The Tormentor's Tincture for the crits.

  • @nuherbleath461
    @nuherbleath461 Год назад +6

    You should name the Molotov “dads wine”

  • @diamond_assasion8291
    @diamond_assasion8291 Год назад +6

    Other people have said the first weapon is a soda can cannon but if we want to keep the sports motif of scout then mannco modified t-shirt cannon
    “Designed for even the largest of stadiums” “do not point at face”

  • @Zander2212
    @Zander2212 Год назад +15

    I think the intention for the launcher was to be like a Tshirt cannon (like you see at sports events), but I like the idea of launching Baseballs. Maybe one of those would have made for a more interesting base for the visual design?

    • @totallynottoaster1114
      @totallynottoaster1114 Год назад +4

      The user’s intention was a can cannon, it’s an AR-15 with an enlarged barrel that you load cans into the barrel allowing you to take a magazine of blank firing 5.56 ammo to launch the cans, user likely wanted the projectile to be a Bonk! can.

    • @Zander2212
      @Zander2212 Год назад +1

      @TotallyNotToaster I figured Tshirt cannon based off of the description before the rebalance, which mentions it was used by Mannco to launch merchandise.

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад

      ​@@Zander2212 Nah, the dude's right. It was a can cannon

    • @Herr_T
      @Herr_T 11 месяцев назад

      @@totallynottoaster1114 Just from how Blue was talking it doesn't seem like he's familiar with firearms. But that didn't stop me from yelling at my screen for that whole section

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity Год назад +12

    I love how the picture for the first idea wasn't a suppressed AR15 but an actual can cannon. They are a blast to shoot!

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад +2

      Thanks man!

  • @oygemprime3864
    @oygemprime3864 Год назад +7

    The pneumatic rifle would probably hide a lot of its stats the way the Shortstop does, we think that's a remnant of Valve at some point intending to add more 'pepperbox' class weapons instead of 'scattergun' class weapons but that's based on pretty much nothing

  • @0ne678
    @0ne678 Год назад +7

    I feel like the Medic throwable would be incredibly helpful regarding uber pushes, as usually when you use stock uber or kritzkrieg you won’t have the chance to heal another teammates. What this does is allow Medic to essentially give his entire team constant healing before pushing in with an ubercharge, and not have to worry about any of them dying.

  • @lunchtime_mmmmmmm
    @lunchtime_mmmmmmm Год назад +9

    For the scout cannon maybe in order to avoid 3 uncharged shots being fired really quickly you could add a firing speed increase after every fully charged shot, or an increase just dependent on the charge

  • @meadnex331
    @meadnex331 Год назад +4

    crossbow, quick fix, and surgical solution/physicians fix. absolutely perfect loadout. if they let this weapon get in the game this will be my medic loadout

  • @InternetAnarchist
    @InternetAnarchist Год назад +1

    I like the idea of throwable AoE items for the medic. Ana's throwable in OW is really fun to use and adds some more depth to the gameplay.

  • @SkywayFishers
    @SkywayFishers Год назад +4

    I think in addition to the Curveball there should be a function that discourages charging and holding a full powered shot like how the Demoman's fully charged sticky bomb fires automatically. That function may have been implied, seeing as how you drew parallels between it and the sticky bomb launcher often, but I feel like I should explicitly say it just in case.

  • @uprank
    @uprank Год назад +4

    Would love for you to hire a source mod/vscript developer to actually visualize and make these useable!

  • @MrDrpoptart
    @MrDrpoptart Год назад +4

    For the first concept I think it would've been a cool idea if it was a shirt cannon like you see in big league games. Yes it was invented in the 90s, but they used slingshot versions before that (didn't have enough range originally) which could also be a downside too

  • @jaredparks4713
    @jaredparks4713 Год назад +4

    There's a medic melee on the workshop that's a beaker full of liquid complete with a shattered model like Demo's bottle. You could potentially take the Surgical Solution and make it a support melee akin to the Disciplinary Action, with splash healing as a "one-and-done" effect like the Ullapool Caber (probably with a recharge).

  • @zeehaye
    @zeehaye Год назад +3

    The medic jar seems op, specifically in a competitive environment. Medic is pretty vulnerable to being bombed in competitive settings and he rarely has the opportunity to use his melee anyway. The self heal would really help him survive being jumped and the bleed would be really annoying for spies to deal with. Especially on payload defense, where most spies sit and wait for an opportunity to stab the medic, him being able to randomly throw a bleed around whenever he wants seems a bit much.

  • @arsonistnpc
    @arsonistnpc Год назад +2

    fun silly goofy advice for making good molotov cocktails (in minecraft) that isn't illegal to know but is illegal to put into practice in the usa (in minecraft) so definitely dont:
    -if using alcohol, use the highest proof you can get your hands on (ideally 100%)
    ~gasoline isn't the best on its own cuz it burns well but doesnt last long- you'll get an initial explosion but not much else. mix with roofing tar or motor oil(?) for it to last longer (and get bonus points, cuz it'll stick to the target!)
    ~kerosene/paraffin works well, as you can guess cuz its a lamp oil
    ~you don't need to fill the bottle all the way. 3/4 should be enough
    -most wine bottles are designed to not break when dropped, so they aren't the best to use. beer bottles are better, or even mason jars! (you can always score a bottle first to make it weaker, though do be careful because you're cutting glass and if you go too far you might cause leaking or just break the bottle altogether)
    -the wick used (whatever rag you're lighting before throwing; avoid synthetic materials) should only be two or so inches long outside of the bottle, with most of it being inside soaking up the liquid. you just need the fire to last long enough to ignite the fuel when the bottle breaks! Make sure to pack the wick tightly in the mouth of the bottle so nothing spills
    -right before lighting and throwing the molotov, quickly turn (and then un-turn) the bottle upside-down to soak the wick a little. light it and then throw it IMMEDIATELY!
    ~when throwing, make sure to aim at hard surfaces instead of soft ones. Sure, a bush would be a good target for starting a fire, but the bottle is much more likely to break when it hits the ground beneath it instead of the thin branches. also, remember this is only for minecraft pvp so never do this in real life, but the pavement beneath a person's feet is a much better target than the person themself.
    ~throw overhand, like a throwing axe! you'll get more force compared to underhand.
    but remember this is all stuff that's only for minecraft and not real life and possession of a molotov cocktail is totally illegal so like never make one. but its totally cool to write this information down! (in minecraft, of course)
    edit: stupid youtube putting strikethroughs

  • @GGgentlemen
    @GGgentlemen Год назад +4

    I think a silenced shotgun for heavy would be epic. Like the one Anton Chigurh uses. No idea what the stats would be but it would be named something like The One Right Tool.

    • @iLoveMajima
      @iLoveMajima Год назад +1

      For the “silent” part I say either a pretty quiet firing sound, or no hit indicator.

  • @KeepCalmSoldierOn
    @KeepCalmSoldierOn 8 месяцев назад +2

    It's worth noting for weapon one that's a firearm called the "can cannon", it's a blank firing adapter for ARs that allows you to shoot cans

  • @livsbian
    @livsbian Год назад +3

    I think the molotov would make for a good alternative for the mad milk in mvm for a more damage focused scout

  • @geometrical007
    @geometrical007 Год назад +2

    Weapon generating is now done by humans
    And people are telling me that ai will take away our jobs

  • @bigmangeorgie7952
    @bigmangeorgie7952 Год назад +4

    I had this idea for a new snapper for spy
    Similar to the red tape recorder, the sapper does not kill the sentry, but instead after maybe 15 seconds swaps its team colour and becomes a new entity (as in the engineer cant destroy or buff it since it belongs to the other team).
    And then after maybe 30 seconds after it switches it would self destruct.
    And to make it more balanced, the sapper only works on sentries and removes the spies disguise or something.
    Sounds too op though
    They could figure out a way to balance it

    • @JarthenGreenmeadow
      @JarthenGreenmeadow Год назад +2

      I think it would be cool but I think a slight delay to its firing speed would be in order and slower holster speed too.
      That way you're having to aim/choose more carefully which building you sap and cant just spam into the engie nest like a regular sapper and then easily switch to a knife to stab and steal the sentry.
      Basically make it require slightly more skill and be easier to punish but have the new utility of team switching. Also make it so friendly engies can heal it but not upgrade it or move it, so if its a level 2 sentry thats all you get.
      I dont think it should last only 30 seconds because sentries without an engie to heal them are weak anyway.

  • @Gensolink
    @Gensolink Год назад +2

    i really love the physician fix concept, would be interesting to give medic more stuff he can do differently, like you would have the reliable but close ranged medigun, the long ranged crossbow and the jar that could be lobed around ledges and stuff. That's 2 different kind of projectile you have to train yourself to use and it could also mean that running crossbow might not be just as a default pick as now, I still think medic should have more interesting stuff on needle gun slots tho

  • @itscznben8728
    @itscznben8728 Год назад +6

    this needs a sequel.

  • @m3rcules580
    @m3rcules580 Год назад +2

    The AR thing is called a can cannon and it came before the nerf tennis ball launcher

  • @dexterity494
    @dexterity494 Год назад +4

    For the all-star's cannon, it feels like it's supposed to be based on the scattergun's 10x6 base damage. This is a little strange, because it doesn't mention a pellet reduction, which means technically it's supposed to be 10x5.4, but given it's based on a t-shirt launcher, I'm going to assume it's a single pellet projectile.
    So on the base stats, it's missing -90% pellets, +900% damage.
    edit: just realized the opening blurb about the projectile says "fires projectile... instead of pellets" so yeah, it's one projectile dealing 60-10% instead of 10x6-10%

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад

      Yep, all stats were based off of the scattergun

  • @mwahjahoocha
    @mwahjahoocha Год назад +1

    Weapon Reskins in TF2 have always seemed like a strange case to me. On one hand if you like how a weapon works but hate how it looks it's nice to have another option to choose from. But on the other hand, reskins usually look like they would function differently from their counterpart. And I've always thought it would be neat if cool looking weapons like the maul had more of an identity than "Its the Homewrecker but for rich people" So I took a large number of weapon reskins currently available in the game and gave them their own set of stats ranging from "Slightly modified sidegrade to the original" to "Completely new weapon idea that's not balanced at all but a ton of fun."
    For this video at least I'm only going to be modifying weapons that are relatively cheap and easily obtainable so it can keep the pay 2 win to a minimum. Basically if its under a key in backpack.tf (tm) or it's directly craftable then its gonna be fair game. I'm also not going to be touching the Original, either of the pyroland weapons, or the Holy Mackerel since even though they're technically reskins, they have enough unique functions that make them notably different from their counterparts. All right lets go.
    The Three-Rune blade is a really cool looking weapon that just doesn't do it for me. Like sure if you hit somebody with a sword in real life they're probably gonna bleed. But if you made a sword that's so poorly weighted that you're guaranteed to hit yourself if you miss your target then you'd probably be better off not even forging the sword in the first place and just hurling chunks of iron at people. So hear me out, we've already got Demoknight but we don't have Scoutknight. I've always thought it would be really cool if the Three-rune made scout functioned kinda like Demoknight. You have a lot more health, better damage and range, and a slight movement speed buff in exchange for scout taking his medieval roleplay very seriously and refusing to use any non-medieval weapons. Scoutknight would effectively be a sidegrade to Demoknight by trading off health and shield resistances for better movement and secondary utility. I'm actually surprised we don't have a second melee subclass in TF2 already with how much time went into Demoknight. And the Three-rune seems like the most obvious weapon change to make to make that a reality.
    The Holy Mackerel is notably different enough from stock because the killfeed tracking hits function. However, the Unarmed Combat does basically the same thing as the Holy Mackerel so it does count as a reskin. The Unarmed Combat's basically a meme weapon so I'm not too concerned about making it competitively viable or anything, but I do wanna make it fulfill its role as a funny weapon by giving it funny stats. Since you're slapping people around, why not give it a knockback effect. The knockback wouldn't be much, but you'd be able to get kills with this pretty well just by juggling people around. It would be kinda annoying to fight against but the idea of slapping people off a cliff is funny to me, so I personally like the changes regardless of how effective they may be.
    The Nostromo Napalmer is technically not a reskin from stock because if you have the entire item set equipped you do more damage against scouts who are wearing the entire alien set, but only like 5 people have ever gotten use out of that specific stat so I'm willing to make an exception. Most of the flamethrowers right now reward you for being as close to your target as possible. So I thought it would be interesting to make a flamethrower that's the opposite, where it has increased flame distance but reverse falloff so you have to keep your target at the maximum possible distance to get the most damage. The increased flame speed would also give the flames more range since their calculation is based on time in the air instead of distance, so essentially its not as much of an ambush tool as much as it is a spacing tool. I have no idea how good or bad this would end up being because its such an "out there" concept, but I think this would be more of a high skill ceiling flamethrower to add to the game, and it would also work well in the Nostromo due to how the original version works in Alien.
    The Postal Pummeler has such a random design for an Axtinguisher reskin. Like sure, a mailbox as a melee is cool and all, but why make it a reskin to the Axtinguisher of all things. So if not an Axtinguisher reskin, what would a mailbox do? Mail has to travel to reach its destination and a lot of mail travels by air and yeah this is a pyro market gardener. There's not much explanation with this one, the only thing in note is that I added a deploy speed bonus to both negate the jetpack's long holster animation and to give you more time to hit targets with the detonator's smaller jumps. Other than that, I feel like pyro could use a market gardener and these are stats that would be a lot of fun in TF2. And it would make it doubly function by making the mailbox theme make more sense.
    The Maul is another really cool looking weapon that ends up being boring because of its stats. Because of how futuristic this thing looks, I'd expect it to do something more high-tech than just being a building smasher. So what if we inverted the homewrecker's damage against enemy buildings to provide buffs to friendly buildings instead? What I'm thinking for the Maul is that you'd be able to whack friendly buildings to make them operate a little bit faster. That means sentries would fire faster, dispensers would regenrate ammo and heal faster, and teleporters would take a little bit less time to recharge. This is of course a significant buff to Engineers, so just to make it a bit harder to keep buildings overclocked, the firing speed penalty would probably be necessary. Pybro's currently a great niche that's limited to a single weapon type, and since teamwork based playstyles should be widely encouraged in a game called "Team Fortress 2", getting pyros more option to help out friendly engineers would be a super great addition.

  • @itscznben8728
    @itscznben8728 Год назад +3

    you should continue your random weapon generator drawing series.

  • @jobot0114
    @jobot0114 Год назад +1

    I think the Physician's Fix was a better name for the third weapon than the Surgical Solution, but if I had to come up with one, I would go with the Terrible Tonic

  • @LimeonCandy
    @LimeonCandy Год назад +4

    The curveball's final design kinda seems something like a scout's huntsman

    • @qcubic
      @qcubic Год назад

      I didn't realize that in the making of it until now

  • @jadynandchara640
    @jadynandchara640 Год назад +1

    a pretty fun idea for the scout molotov I had was a throwable with 60 extra switch speed (in general like the old degrease), sets enemies on fire and deals 20 damage in the radius of a rocket or the jarate. It recharges every 20 seconds and damage dealt decreases the timer (50:1, a full meatshot would decrease the timer by around 12.50 seconds) and the main idea is to run in and out of battle dousing enemies in the molotov and running back in to pick them off with your scatter. This would be a good alternative playstyle for scouts wanting to have some effect on a whole group of enemies rather than being a 1v1 master. It would also pair really well with the soda popper and soas, since melee covers the soda popper's low sustainability and the molotov validates the stick's schdict. It's trade off is worse 1v1 duels since 20 damage isn't all that much considering the reason you've switched to your secondary is because you beefed your scatter shots. It would also work worse in competitive formats since people will generally be more spread out to reduce splash damage, and most comp lobbies are 6v6 or 7v7 anyway. It would lose the mid to long range harrassment capabilities of stock, but it could work around this by being spammed mid-1v1 if you can manage to aim the splash away from the person you're fighting, meatshot the guy, then throw it again.

  • @RedFragmentation
    @RedFragmentation Год назад +4

    Custom weapons are always such an interesting thing to explore, I just wish Valve handed over the games updates to the community but part of me knows it's too good to be true.

    • @Aibadenshi
      @Aibadenshi Год назад +2

      Good idea. But it will be somewhat horrible on practice.

    • @jey5806
      @jey5806 Год назад

      Custom weapons in the tf2 community has always been a strange case to me

    • @RedFragmentation
      @RedFragmentation Год назад

      ​@@Aibadenshi Depends how it's done y'know? I would love to see more community made maps brought into the rotation. Custom weapons may just be too much for the base game though

    • @RedFragmentation
      @RedFragmentation Год назад +1

      @@jey5806 You'll need a 5$ key to unlock it, sorry

    • @Aibadenshi
      @Aibadenshi Год назад

      @@RedFragmentation Yes. But the community it's own worst enemy on how thing should be done. So I don't have high hope for them to work.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Год назад +1

    I don't know about the pressure gauge. Seems like a detail that's too.. I don't know, _smart_ for Scout? I'm also a little surprised you didn't actually keep the theme of a Nerf tennis launcher and gave it some in-universe toy branding similar to Bonk, Criticola, and the Atomiser.

  • @minekraftminer
    @minekraftminer Год назад +4

    9:03 As a typical colors player, seeing the game make any kind of cameo in a video, makes me really happy for some reason.

    • @leodaoust8035
      @leodaoust8035 Год назад

      im just wondering how the fuck he landed there

  • @charlesmieth2467
    @charlesmieth2467 Год назад +2

    Missed opportunity to call it the Teutonic Tonic

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Год назад +1

    I think that cough syrup throwable for medic should have had something in German on its label.

  • @Kool65Dude
    @Kool65Dude Год назад +2

    I just realised with the medic bottle. TF2 might be in violation of the geneva convention

    • @lunarpitch
      @lunarpitch Год назад

      i was looking for this comment

  • @crashmasterj0837
    @crashmasterj0837 Год назад +1

    For the medic bottle why not mix the two mixtures like medic swishes it around and it changes it’s effects

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bro really channeled his inner 2020/2021 with that molotov name. Also, the launcher image wasn't a suppressed rifle, it was something called a "can cannon" which uses blanks to launch FILLED soda cans 100+ yards.

  • @LydCal999
    @LydCal999 Год назад +1

    Uh yeah if a weapon says something like “-10% damage” that’s usually relative to... yknow... the base damage of the weapon. The base damage for the scattergun is 6 damage for 10 pellets AKA 60 damage. That would mean the projectile at 0 charge deals 54 damage (60 - 6) and at full charge would deal 90 (~=54*1.67)

  • @OMEGARunner-C.AMI.EXE_ORCA
    @OMEGARunner-C.AMI.EXE_ORCA 11 месяцев назад +1

    I feel like The Surgical Solution seems like the kind of thing you would throw out of panic while a screaming trolldier just commits an air raid on you lol (I feel like The Ludwig Solution [Just like Benedict's Solution] could be a good rename for it)

  • @Oooze3424
    @Oooze3424 Год назад +1

    I've thought of several spy secondaries that would be like... ya'know like how solider has his banners 'n' boots, demo has shields, scout has throwable, but spy has only one secondary and it's just the normal sapper but worse at everything except frontier justice engi's so here are some that would shake things up a little:
    -The Daily Doctor Deterrent, a throwable apple that reduces medic uber if you can hit them or their patient.
    -The Deadly Dosage. a vial of poison that can be used to poison medkits, making anyone who picks them up marked for death for 8 seconds. the poisoned medkits have their blue replaced with red and their red cross replaced with the marked for death symbol so that you can tell them apart.
    -and The Fake Friend, a deployable that would create one of the wooden class cutouts that for the enemy appears as a rival teammate of your choosing standing still with their primary out. if it's a heavy, its revving and if it's a sniper, it's scoped.

  • @BenTheMelon
    @BenTheMelon Год назад +1

    I personally think having the ‘surgical solution’ replace the melee instead of the syringe gun is overpowered. Allowing for both the insane long-range single target healing of the crossbow, the AOE healing of the solution and the ubercharge all in one package would be overpowered and would completely shake up the balance.
    I’d have it replace the syringe gun and give it (and the crossbow if it was ever added in an update) a slower holster speed. And if you really don’t want it replacing the syringe gun why not throw a curveball in and have it replace the Medigun. Maybe give it increased healing and a faster cool-down. Just a thought tho

  • @moritamikamikara3879
    @moritamikamikara3879 Год назад +1

    The All-star's cannon appears to be a can-cannon.
    It's an AR-15 modification with a cup on the front end.
    You stick a soda can or beer can in the end and load a blank into the chamber, the gasses from the blank yeet the soda can through the air.
    So not quite a pneumatic gun, it's still gunpowder, but it's cool as shit, and yes, it can fire baseballs.

  • @ItsEvanHere
    @ItsEvanHere Год назад +1

    Honestly I think BiNC would have been a really cool weapon concept of it got tweaked a bit.
    Not only would it completely Scout’s Soda trilogy, but it would add a unique effect that would be well utilized.
    Here are my tweaked BiNC stats:
    + Dealing damage increases BiNC meter +
    + On Full BiNC Bar: Drink to gain +15% movement speed and +50% damage resistance vs sentrys for 10 seconds +
    + Dealing damage under BiNC effects will give recharge to all meters +
    - Dealing damage under BiNC effects increases damage vulnerability vs players, capping at 50% -
    - -50% BiNC recharge when Dealing damage with BiNC -
    • BiNC recharges based on damage output, taking less damage to recharge depending on damage output with last BiNC effects •

  • @EerieGourd
    @EerieGourd 10 месяцев назад +1

    For the Medic weapon, what about medieval mode? Sure, you can run the crossbow, but there's no guarantee someone will use that (or even have it at all).

  • @KOTK11
    @KOTK11 Год назад +1

    How about the “Mischung Mess”? Mischung, according to Google translate, is German for concoction, and it maintains the alliteration.
    Also, given that it would be his melee, perhaps throwing it is the right alt fire, and the basic melee attack is just the worst option. Also no random crits, because then it might hit hard enough to get a kill in the situation’s where the bone saws are supposed to be important in.

  • @MFlari
    @MFlari Год назад +1

    Some words on the jars: I think that, if you do a second episode, should totally remix the minicrit medic jar, as I think it could be an interesting challenge to differentiate it from the prescription. Another idea of mine was having the medic throwable able to replace either the secondary or melee. This move would pair well with my previous idea: perhaps the blue jar would give minicrits to the medic, who would then ubersaw a nearby demo to death or smth. The throwables for medic in general just open up so many doors.

  • @glad16252
    @glad16252 Год назад +1

    Designing TF2 weapons have always seemed like a strange case to me. On one hand if you like the playstyle a weapon or class promotes but hate the stats it's fun to think of a more balanced version of it in the form of a new weapon. On the other hand why not use that new weapon idea to promote a completely new and unique playstyle while buffing or nerfing the existing weapons?

  • @OlaftheGreat
    @OlaftheGreat Год назад +1

    I don't have access to Adobe programs but I do have copies of Affinity Photo and Designer...I wonder if I can pull off stuff like this? Would be fun...

  • @SnaksiXD
    @SnaksiXD Год назад +1

    Great Blue, you have this all wrong. The All-Star's Cannon should be a weapon name that goes on the Heavy, obviously it shoots american footballs at the enemies and works on an overheat system.

  • @avalzon4497
    @avalzon4497 Год назад +1

    OKAY HEAR ME OUT.
    Make The Surgical Solution act like ullapol caber. It'll be awesome and would allow to use broken glass bottle as melee.

  • @alligatorswollower8848
    @alligatorswollower8848 Год назад +1

    My reaction of that Information, a Revelation, of something wich i cannot comprehend , how did you come up with something so bizarre, making me repulse from my thought now.

  • @snipuhh__enthusiast2736
    @snipuhh__enthusiast2736 Год назад +1

    Ngl the first weapon concept is begging to be a PvZ GW2 Z-7 Imp type weapon, where people will start playing with a modified controller to shoot out those things at the speed of light

  • @girlie_p0p
    @girlie_p0p Год назад +1

    Recommending the name The Fifth Humor for the Medic throwable, as a reference to the four humors of older humoral theory, in a fun twist, they’re actually real and Medic discovered a new one!

  • @matsuringo24
    @matsuringo24 Год назад +1

    Some ideas for the medic thrown name:
    Traveling Treatment
    Dousing Dose
    Volatile Vial
    Ranged Remedy
    Sailing Solution (also sounds like saline solution lol)

  • @mangomelody5044
    @mangomelody5044 Год назад +1

    The thing with the peaceful protest is it can combo with sun on a stick, which would be fun to do kind of being like the old sandman combo but without the stun and insane damage all at once it dealing 114 damage and if it does 4 seconds of after burn and combo with sun on a stick it could do 146.

  • @martinemoolenkamp2282
    @martinemoolenkamp2282 Год назад +1

    The HOT! Wud be great if combine with the sun on a stick
    🔥SCOUTS SUPER HOT FIRE LOUDOUT🔥

  • @Draslyn
    @Draslyn Год назад +1

    just something I noticed that you may not have, unless I'm mistaken the 1st scout weapon is based off of a can cannon but with a charge mechanic. hope this helps.

  • @TheBerryVids420
    @TheBerryVids420 Год назад +1

    "Molotov Cocktails make the most sense for Scout"
    What about Pyro? The guy who's name is literally another way to say fire? Besides, the beaker design is much more interesting for a Scout fire-based throwable.

  • @benthebamboozler4104
    @benthebamboozler4104 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think the all-star cannon was supposed to be a T-Shirt cannon, the kind you see mascots using

  • @Aibadenshi
    @Aibadenshi Год назад +1

    I have no hate on any custom make weapons.
    But most of the time, I just see them just being slight stats adjust or complete bonker like too broken to use or broken on use.

  • @PinkBroBlueRope
    @PinkBroBlueRope Год назад +1

    >doesn’t actually model it and code it and upload it to the workshop and test it
    Cringe, what’s the point

  • @MayoTF2
    @MayoTF2 Год назад +1

    "and other types of books that have words in them" ah yes, my favourite reading book, pictures.

  • @Luka-prisma-ravencroft
    @Luka-prisma-ravencroft Год назад +1

    I'd still keep the physicians fix on the primary to contest the crossbow that thing is too strong

  • @Spubbily01
    @Spubbily01 Год назад +1

    When you said graphic design is your passion I thought you were just being funny

  • @MrLozone999
    @MrLozone999 Год назад +1

    "Should look like it works realistically."
    Hmmmmmmmm * Loch and Load * Hmmmmmmmm

  • @dvon9392
    @dvon9392 7 месяцев назад +1

    I would've made the fire throwable into a jar of salsa personally

  • @josefherman6392
    @josefherman6392 2 месяца назад +1

    Making it a generic molative is hardly in the whacky spirit of TF2, and the name is hardly a joke.
    Make it a bucket of chicken called the "Hell fire Mannhocks" With saxton hale's face on the front done in the same style as the Kernal sander's KFX bucket. Then make an alternate skin for it called the "Lemons that burn your house down" with the apurture science logo on the side of a similar looking box.

  • @PantheraLeo04
    @PantheraLeo04 Год назад +2

    I really love these weapon design/rebalance videos.

  • @CentipedeChan
    @CentipedeChan Год назад +1

    The design stuff is my favorite tbh. There's lots of things I never thought about with my own ideas for weapons and how they'd affect the rest of the game and the class

  • @HyperlinkBlocked97
    @HyperlinkBlocked97 Год назад +1

    All-stars cannon Alt fire for the projectile maybe?

  • @thecluckster3908
    @thecluckster3908 Год назад +1

    Make a medigun that when you Uber it gives a speed boost

  • @miticjack7658
    @miticjack7658 7 месяцев назад +1

    the medic throwable breaks geneva's conventions

  • @poppip10
    @poppip10 Год назад +1

    babe wake up new great blue video just dropped

  • @Epic-ft2bg
    @Epic-ft2bg Год назад +1

    An idea I've had for a scout weapon is "the pothead" it would have:
    +10% damage bonus
    +50% faster holster speed
    +'potted' enemies take +10% more fire damage
    -25% deploy speed
    -'potted' enemies cannot be headshot
    -25% less damage dealt to 'potted' enemies
    'potting' an enemy blinds them for 5 seconds
    (Keys: += positive -=negative)

  • @theepicone100
    @theepicone100 Год назад +1

    GREAT BLUE, NO, YOU'RE GOING TO ANGER THE RED CROSS!