SpaceX Finally Reveals Its First Real Starship Block 2! What's Different?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- SpaceX Static fires their Gigantic Super-Heavy Starship rocket Booster. How did it go? SpaceXs 2nd starship launch tower is going up faster than a rocket. But it's still running late? SpaceX's new Block 2 Starship is now under construction. Is it really that much better? And NASA’s SLS Moon Rocket arrives in Florida for its first launch with people!
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Will the upcoming Block 2 Starship perform a first payload deployment? What do you think?
Deorbit burn and pez dispenser tests are still to do.
Hello @Whataboutit. Thanks for the updates. Can you start using chapters, pretty please?
I think which ever flight is totally successful, prob next flight may
I am sure there is some system test that need to be done but supper structure is till being updated so hard to say but as they have made it to space at this point there is still testing to be done for in and out of orbit to insure it can do it's work . I feel once they have the lunch return as they want it then will see many more internal working systems testing , I am sure they are working on those system as well in the back ground , but being they have a operational capsule it will only take some fudging around to make those systems work for starship
Maybe after flight 7 they will first start with doing some Starlinks?
Bore Gel isn’t used for vertical drilling. It’s used for horizontal drilling. This means they will be running cables/pipes underground.
The pit you asked about next to the new tower is likely a retention pit for the drilling fluid (Bore Gel) that will be pumped in and back out of the bore hole before the pipe is installed. When directional drilling, the hole is fully drilled before the pipe is pulled through. The drilling fluid is used during the drilling process to keep the hole from caving in before the pipe can take it's place.
That sounds boring. :)
Cool story from this past week - a crew completed a simulated Mars mission of about 387 days. NASA put four or five people in a 3D printed habitat of 1700 sq ft to monitor their use of resources. Apparently it went well.
We have a skyscraper here, 115m high, every time I pass the building, I try to imagine, that building going up, too comparable to Starship. This must be a "holy cow" moment 😂
@@Bluelagoonstudios thinking about that the house i used to live in was just 28m high and had 8 stories
Can you send Google maps location of that skyscraper?
@@rajesh-ww9sm 49.648010157119586, 8.344402354151487
i miscalculated a bit at first it should be like 28-30m high depending on the thickness of the ceiling/floor
Watch out for those Fireflys, they tend to be manned with some rowdy characters.
nice haircut felix
Thank you! We're being BAKED here in Florida, so short it is!
@@Whataboutitmust be hard being under the Raptor Sun engine huh?
First thing I thought at the start of the video, lol.
😂😂
You beat me to it! It's a good trim!
Can you please add chapters to your videos?
Why???
@@BRAHHHHHH No, it doesn’t.
@@BRAHHHHHH why do you think that?
@@BRAHHHHHH Then don't watch it 😂🤡
@@BRAHHHHHH how
Firefly class: Serenity spotted @4:20
Good catch!!
Why not put heat tiles on the launch mount?
@@squashduos1258 wait he's got a point tho...
@@squashduos1258 They are very light, very fragile things; when holding one, you can (almost) crush it in your hand. - Dave Huntsman
@@dphuntsman are you saying the re-entry is just hot and has no pressure? I mean the space shuttle landed with it…shouldn’t it hold up to the rocket engines or is the thrust (not the heat) the big issue…?
The random firefly photoshopped in at 4:20 was a nice touch 😂
@@nightfox6738 HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THAT🤣!!!
I laughed at my desk when I saw it. Epic perfection.
"we were also able to spot some interesting developments around the launch site."
Yeah, Serenity landing between pad A & B is pretty damn interesting!
Thought I was going mad 😂
We all go mad from time to time@@johnmarrs7781
It’s funny how being local law enforcement gets you routine close ups with starship 😂
Guten tag Felix!
Just wanna say I remember your channel from the very first video and that it's incredible how it's grown. From a single enthusiast to a proffesional team reporting on Starship. I check in as soon as I get a notification to make sure im up to date on the journey to mars. Keep it up and I hope you and your family enjoy Florida.
Cheers from Schweden!
Lifted flaps on block 2 will make it easier go through reentry and advantage of mass
Absolutely! The main benefit is that the forward flaps are moved out of the plasma flow on reentry!
Smaller, thinner, lighter, further forward.
If Starship ever returns with a significant payload mass, these flaps may have to be enlarged. (More header tank propellant mass for landing.)
I don't believe the hinge itself was the culprit in the last flight but the hinge gap. The low pressure area on the lee or upward side of the flap hinge resulted in plasma being sucked into the low pressure hinge gap, aided by the ram air effect on the direction of travel side, and with no static atmosphere in that space the plasma just kept adding energy to it till it found the material limits. I think either the hinge gaps will need to be tightened to resist flow or some sort of blocking device/material added.
The SLS as well as the Orion capsule may just be another NASA lemon 🍋
Maybe, but the first mission was amazingly successful.
Hey lemons are good, they're really just 💩
Being shipped for assembly now.
@@TheMoneypresident That doesn't mean it's good.
@smugfrog8111 the first one worked out. What evidence do you have that it won't be able?
I always think that these animations showing the Booster being caught, show the Booster coming down too fast ! I would expect the ‘vertical catch speed of the Booster’ to be much slower.
Maybe no more than 10 cms/sec at catch ?
The animations seem to show it travelling at about 5 meters per second vertically ! - Clearly far too fast.
Eventually, the arms may begin to close while the booster is still decelerating, but likely will not co-operate on the first attempt.
I expect that, at first, the early boosters will decelerate to a standstill, and adjust thrust to hover. Then arms will close and rise up to support. In later versions, the arms can close upon a descending booster with coordinated vertical arm motion.
I feel like it's going to need a hinge flange to keep the hinge protected.
It's a big problem when a super-compressed hot atmosphere rushes through the hinge gap, and also into every tile gap. Version 2 retracts the forward flap [hinges] out of the plasma stream, but the rear flap hinges will continue to stay immersed.
The elastic seal within the hinge gap is crucial.
im so happy i was born soon enough to see this starship start from a tiny can all the way to what it is now to what it will be in the future.! 🥳
I like the little man for scale , you should use him all the time he is very helpfull especial for us that have never seen it in person . great job!
Was Serenity meant to be some kind of easter egg for the chanel?
It was a nice touch anyway; and I myself love any opportunity taken to remember the brown coat spirit. Remember, even Gwynne Shotwell liked Firefly (!).
You realize you are encouraging to subscribe to not miss your videos, to people who are not subscribed but are nevertheless watching your videos, so apparently they are not in fact missing them, right?
It’s good to see SLS is getting ready to launch.
@whataboutit when you said "it finally happened" I thought Felix was gonna say he got a haircut 🤣
I think something many people dont yet realize is that every new Starship is kinda a completely new rocket. Like there are so many things that are changed and redesigned it is insane. And this is just the beginning. Starship will massively change in the near future. I wonder where the "landed" or lets say deorbited Starship is by the way. Did it just sink in the ocean?
Yeah. When Starships are recovered and post-op analyses can be applied, they can back-off on the "over-engineered" choices. Also, minor changes can be retrofitted to any recovered ship and booster, not just those new versions leaving the factory.
Starship and SH were likely scuttled by operating the explosive charges. Perhaps right after the video stream was cut.
@12:32 - thats no flap, its a 1/1000 scale mockup for the mars imperial cruiser.....
The haircut is Awesome!! Looks German enough lol. Thanks for the spaceflight update! We all love you and your team.
Just want to say I appreciate this channel and listen/watch so much of these videos while at work. I appreciate how much making these videos must take.
Are they currently using Raptor 2 on all launches, or are they still using up some old Raptor 1? When will Raptor 3 start getting installed?
Nice hair cut! Love the funny side comments and the bloopers. I agree with the hopes that on the 60th anniversary there will already be people on the moon. I was lucky to see the first moon landing live and I pray that I will be able to do the same with the first Mars landing!
At 12:02 what caused the dent in the ships skin?
I think you refer to the dimple at 12:03, right beside the two dark circles.
The curved nose-cone has less need for internal bracing, but this greater flexibility also allows thermal stresses during welding to pull it out of shape.
It will likely pop back out when internal air pressure is increased during leak tests.
That alien spaceship flying over was pretty cool. Futurism
Oh that’s actually kinda cool that they’re reusing space shuttle engines. It’s also kinda scary.
If SpaceX can’t get tile cooling good enough to protect the flap hinges I wonder if it might consider transpirational cooling for just the hinge areas. In the early Starship concept stage transpirational cooling was mentioned as a possible total replacement for a traditional heat shield but rejected due to weight (it would use a lot of LOX or whatever gas was used) but maybe just for the hinge areas a possible solution if other solutions fail?
I also look at active cooling as a supplement to thermal tiles. However, the early flap designs have plenty of room for improvement, with large gaps between internal braces that allow the sheet metal to bend inwards.
Version 2 flaps are far thinner and likely already are far stiffer to retain the rigid tiles without peeling off the tile adhesive.
Flaps for v2 ships are placed outside of the plasma flow, so that should already be fixed for S33 onwards.
@@Mynnhos
Only the forward flaps are repositioned. The rear flaps continue to stick out in the plasma constantly, but even the front flaps need to engage in the hot plasma occasionally.
@Felix schlang @what about it Segment 3 is already stacked on the 18th 2 days after segment 2 was stacked on the 16th and today installed what appears to be an elevator shaft segment inside tower 2 today between 7 and 8am on the 19th
I like the idea of installing raptors from a cartridge to rocket transfer and use of lift mounts built into the install cartridge in order to reduce time setting up rigging.
4:20 Whoa those Redline Helis look pretty sweet
It's probably a mud pit for the drilling (all of the stone and sand has to go somewhere)
Would hope Space X is planning a successful water landing and a controlled virtual catch of Starship.
They should make a chopsticks out of pool noodles for the simulated landing
10:46 It looks like an Orca jumping out of the water
Was thinking about the Size of Starship Booster -- maybe 240 feet by 27 feet Diam is a BIG CYLINDER. WIND LOADS of 30 to 40 mph Could bring 5 or More TONS OF LATERAL WIND LOAD. while attempting Tower Catch.
Good report, Felix. - Dave Huntsman
Felix you always make everything sound exciting. Your presentation style was what attracted me to your channel many years ago. Keep up the great work!
I really do think they'll need some form of rail transport system to move Starships to and from the launch and test sites. It'll be quicker, smoother and reduce the need for road closures.
The road has little room for being made wider, much less installing a rail right-of-way beside it. These are State and Federal protected wildlife sanctuaries. SpaceX would end up paying for berm expansion, while rail is hundreds of times more expensive.
@@imconsequetau5275 where there's a demand there's a way. Its not a problem now, but once you're producing 1 starship a day as planned the road closure system will not work.
@@Codysdab
LOL, the ships can all be transported on the road at night, that's not a problem to me. But how does one batch-launch 7-14 Starships in one day, and how does one fill up the propellant storage tanks? That's an insane number of tanker semi-trucks, so I suppose an off-shore pipeline and propellant transfer from tanker ships is necessary.
@@imconsequetau5275i agree they'll need incredible infrastructure just to fuel the Starships, trucks are not fit for the job. An offshore terminal to allow methane and LOX offloading is most likely, but again you hit the national park thingy. Same with a huge methane/oxygen production plant and pipelines nearby.
Apollo XI landed on the Moon on 21 July, not the twentieth. I listened to it live at about 5 or 6am, and watched Armstrong and Aldrin, along with everyone else at my school, a few hours later. All 50 or so of us, on Monday 21 July. In Australia, where the future happens earlier.
Not an engineer, just some guy on the internet, but I wonder if the Orion heatshield didn't ablate like it was expected to because it had to wait almost a decade for SLS to be ready to launch. Then again while I know the Orion capsule was ready and waiting, I don't know when the heatshield itself was manufactured. Maybe they held off on that until it was certain they were gonna get the green light after years of waiting. If it was waiting as long as the capsule itself then maybe the abnormal ablating was just a result of sitting around for years waiting on a pork project to waddle up to the pad and get going.
I was thinking that the ablative material just wasn't made consistently over the entire heat shield.
It should be mixed and applied in one long continuous batch job. Also, any bubbles in the liquid resin composite would need to be removed with a hard vacuum in a section of plumbing on the path to the pressure injection mold.
Finally, the baking process might not have been uniform enough. Temperature gradients during curing could lock strain into the structure.
The pit may be for any employees who don't want to work hard enough for Elon.
It finally happened…..Felix had a hair cut!
Haha
During the catch, what if the booster's catch points are off by 90" or some amount of Deg...... How do they rotate the booster to line up the catch points? Have we seen any tests of this?
They have attitude control thrusters for this. I build them everyday at work. Not for this company but for a lot of other ones so I believe this is a solved issue as they can pivot it while it's in the air
The booster has 13 (15) main engines with thrust vector control. Just the center cluster of 3 (5) Raptor engines can "rotate" the booster during the landing burn.
Even the earliest test vehicles (with only one main engine) had cold gas thrusters for "roll".
If the engineers find it necessary, thrusters will be added to Starship to supplement the main engines [during the landing flip]. But the booster likely is already agile enough.
I don't think you guys are understanding my question.
I am NOT talking about thrust vectoring that will pivot the ship. Or roll it over many Km's while accelerating during a launch.
I am referring to very fine control while approaching the tower. No amount of thrust vectoring will "spin" the ship in place.
It would require some sort of gas/cold gas thrusters mounted horizontally on the ship.
Does the ship have anything like this installed? Have we seen this in use?
Has the ship ever demonstrated "spinning" while moving at sub 10KM/H over a distance of sub 100 meters?
@@roderickroderick7216
Thrust vectoring can indeed twist the craft in roll. The engines merely need to all tilt clockwise or counter-clockwise. Look for up-skirt videos, and you can find adjacent engines that tilt in such a way.
If a pair of center engines tilt in opposing directions, they create a twisting force. A trio can twist clockwise or counter-clockwise and roll the craft.
The chop stick landing could be a way off.
Eventually I am sure it will be perfected.
Couldn't help to notice Fire Fly was making a delivery
There all test mules early success make it so small things until the big reveal , first mars lunch . looking good
Well, however it goes, catch or not, it will guarantee some heart pounding moments. Boom or bust.
Honestly, if I were in charge of the launch schedule, I would wait for a catch until OLM 2 was completed and launch a dummy ship on top of a booster and test the booster alone in the catch sequence of OLM 1.
Why bother with a dummy ship? If you're going through all the trouble of flying one why not do a full test and get more data?
What we are missing from SpaceX for Starship is how it can carry big cargo. I have seen nothing to say they can make a ship strong enough to have a large opening to deploy cargo to space. All they have done so far is the pezz dispenser and that was not a great start for that. Anything they do to create a large opening is going to require a lot of strenghtening and therefore reduction in to LEO or deep space mass. Would be nice if we saw more action on that. I bet their customers would as well. Not doing the initial trials with this in mind seems like all we are going to get is a water tank to space with stuff inside. But it will not have been developed to carry large structures and deploy them.
You're looking at low fidelity test articles. Development is not done yet.
17:52 What about that moon flag!? Must've been a windy day
What are you talking about?
1:55 Looks like a music video set from the eighties -just put up some neon lights and then it's good to go.
I still dont understand how the ablative layers can be under standard tiles - how can that aid rapid reusability if you have to remove tiles to replace the ablative layer?
The ablative layer must be on top rather than underneath - the tiles are the ablative/sacrificial layer - the underneath blankets are the permanent layer
'Without further ado' is what you say when you want to take a moment to tell everyone that you don't want to wait any longer. Then after and only after you say that, you proceed to do the thing that you are in a hurry to do.
5:20 maybe that is a staging area for the tower sections?
Maybe the pond is a reservoir for the water cooling system.
One who asks a question is a fool for five minutes; one who does not ask a question remains a fool forever.
It’s a mud pit for all that Baroid Bore Gel and drill cuttings.
I saw that. 4:20, is that Serenity from Firefly?
nice haircut felix 👌
Great haircut Felix 💇♂️ 👌🏼
This is the cleanest and tidiest booster we have seen
I think it's a great idea if you started calling them towers Alfa and Bravo instead of just A and B, would elevate the quality a little
Hi Felix, lots of good news. It still looks as though this new Starship is still a test article for launching and recovery and not something that could be used for cargo or humans. When do you guys think something man-mission appropriate might be seen?
Can you please add chapters to your videos
I enjoyed the "In thrust we trust" comment, nice one! 😄
Smooth haircut there Felix! Get singed by standing too close to static fire? 😂
Hey Felix!👋
At 14:54
Sounds like " Craptastic Fire Stand" ! 😁
Mike in San Diego. 🌞🎸🚀🖖
Yep I saw that too they inserted firefly space ship= tv show or from the Serenity movie.
Felix rockin those new eyebrows too
Great show, Felix! I am still amazed how NASA still wastes engines, dumping them and rocket bodies into the ocean.
Great job reporting! Thanks Felix.
They are probably going to anchor the tower with cables against the bending stress of a booster catch.
WOW ! love The Red Line Heli ! D-Ultimate Super Cool ! Super Yeh !
That pit is totally going to be a swimming pool so folks can have a pool party during future launches.
How sad to be dumping the RS-25 engines. Do they even make replacements? I'd heard that they were simply using warehoused engines, and when they were gone --- ???
Well, what would you expect? It's a government program.
I would like to lay money on the fact that starship will deploy version two Starlink satellites before the next SLS takes off
The open pit seems to have protective environmental bags around it.
Possibly a slurry pit for the Bore-Gel?
I assume just like other drilling operations.
I was going to ask if it were the location of the launch pad. Possible? Then that would be for foundation. Maybe the delayed launch tower is redesign of blast tunnel and this new outline may be part of it.
I’m interested to know and will stay tuned
You are the best sir!
Keep up the great work Felix.
So a completely wild guess.
First and foremost they will dig slightly deeper still. And then put a tank farm with straight piping. Reducing the bends of the pipe( complexity) and not needing such a high deflector wall. Just a guess. But why not
Cryogenic piping actually requires periodic jogs in the run to cope with metal contraction.
5:15 - SpaceX Mud Wrestling
still do not know why SpaceX do not use ceramics finish on the pad. This will help to contain de heat and avoid fire exposed directly to the metal.
They burn a lot of paint off the metal during launch. Is ceramic more durable?
When it comes to SpaceX, define "late."
"NASA has its own super-heavy launch vehicle, the SLS." ...Does it really, though?
Why don't they put an inflatable balloon in the Starship payload bay so it will inflate after reentry and stop the Starship from sinking? This way the Starship can be recovered and inspected - they would learn so much!
When is the launch of the starship?? I think 15 August correct??
I think it's just a pool with an amazing view
Ship 30 needs a static fire since they replaced a vacuum Raptor since they static fired it initially. 30 will go to Masseys before 31
The pit is jut a giant latrine for the booster!
Can the booster fly on it's own? I am thinking a low fuel launch, hop, catch test...
Hey Felix - another great show - you Rock! Question for you - is there a backup plan if the Superheavy has engines go out or other issues when coming in to land back at the launch pad?
Why didn’t you touch base on the falcon 9 incident.
I wonder why the hottest parts of the flaps aren’t upgraded to titanium (it’s lighter than steel and handles much higher temperatures).
I'm sure they are focused on both cheap and light practical solutions.
For example, the first flap design had excessive gaps between the internal braces that supported the sheet metal skin. You can clearly see the internal braces, and spacing, during the IFT-4 descent as the flap evaporated and burned up.
These gaps allowed too much metal surface movement, so the adhesive layer on tiles broke away.
The new flaps are much thinner and must have tightly spaced internal braces (a honeycomb, I suspect). The version 2 flaps should be much more rigid, so the adhesive layer will not be pulled apart.
Random question, and it's probably dumb, but i'm tired of pretending that I know. How come the starship stage needs a heat shield, while the booster bit doesn't? Don't they both leave the atmosphere before coming back?
@@johnlusumpa9025 yes, but the booster is significantly slower and therefore the steel is enough to handle the heat, if there even is some, i am not sure
Well, the new hairdo is quite noticeable. Being a helloween fan I think it wouldn't take much work to rework that to Dr. Who's "The Master".
Exactly how long was the static fire? Looked rather long. As in almost as long as the first lift off that tore up the launch pad ...
I wonder if they could stack pairs of tower segments, then lift them onto the tower being assembled. That would allow to do some work in parallel to make for lost up time ... weight limits?
The crane cannot handle the weight of two sections.
Felix rocking a fresh haircut! You and your team rock!