I used Barenbrug RTF tall fescue for a total renovation last fall and it did amazing! They have fantastic products. Glad to see the shade savant did magnificent.
I done a really slesy thing that makes my lawn actually look quite good. I mixed like 15 different kind of grass seed and just sprayed them around everywhere. The lawn is very uniformly uninformed, so it actually looks rather good. When going from a sunny spot to a shady spot one type of grass takes over gradually, making the border being pretty much invisible.
That's not just Fescue, that is creeping red which is a very interesting variety of Fescue. It's a fine Fescue that sends out runners. Most are the bunching variety, creeping red will get thicker over time. It will keep it's color very well even during the cold.
I just planted this shade savant a week ago and it grows in very hard areas. Most all the seed took off growing and covered massive bare spots in my yard.
I love Barenbrug seeds... I have their RTF seeds and they sprout quite quickly. It's the first year so I have not seen its spreading ability but I look forward to that next year.
Wow great results .Good thing it wasn't my in-laws .I was thinking rock garden and circular driveway but then again I am not The Lawn Tools. Good call :)
Should try out some KBG there under that tree at some point, because well trying to get grass to look good under trees is a constant battle of just putting seed down
There are newer Bermuda Cultivars in the works. But for right now, Celebration Bermuda is one of the best for shade tolerance but like you said that doesn't mean complete shade. Even though I have a degree in Turf Management I have no clue on the workings of breeding grasses besides for the common sense parts. If possible I would love to see a cross breeding of Bermuda and Zoysia, maybe Artificial Intelligence could figure that out and what would be best on swapping out DNA strains or genomes as some call it.
Will be interested to see if it thins out any as it matures with that amount of shade. That is what I ran into with mine for any shade mixes in the past. That would be amazing if it can keep healthy though under that!
I don't understand why people can't figure this out. Buy a dense shade grass. Newer zoysia cultivars or fescue blends are the best bet but even than they still NEED 3 hour of light. Best bet is to take down the tree or limb it up / thin it out.
I live in a trailer park in Alberta. I have a huge mayday tree in my yard that shades a big section of my yard. In the summer it is FULL shade. Like DARK DARK shade. Zero light, zero grass...lots of MUD. My lot gets very waterlogged, to the point where some parts of the lawn have decided to just trade grass for moss, but moss won't even grow under this tree. What are the chances that this stuff will actually grow? I'm so tired of dealing with the mud. If there's no snow on it, it's just mud.
Must have been planted in the fall in Florida. No way that grass seed survives 90 plus degree temperatures and 80 plus percent humidity. It will die hard. I've heard the only thing that will work in the summertime in such conditions in the shade is St Augustine and it requires regular watering regiment, especially under a tree where it's difficult for a normal rain shower to get to the ground.
I live in San Antonio TX. My front lawn has a lot of shade and my back yard has more sun. What type of grass seed should I buy? I have struggled with this lawn for 10 years with nothing much growing in the shade and the grass in the back yard getting burned. I am on a budget and would like the best solution possible. Thank you.
Yes! How much you water just depends upon how long it's taking to dry out...and that's different for everyone, in every area, at any time, depending on c limate and weather conditions. JUST KEEP IT FROM DRYING OUT! My next rant is about the fact that none of you lawn guys making videos seem to think it's important to talk about "where" you're located...and how the type of "shade grasses" you're using tolerate that climate over time. Just because it comes up, does not mean it will survive for long. I would LOVE to plant grass in my very shady front yard, but I've been advised by a local landscaping company not to even bother....but, rather, to plant things like hostas...liriope...pachysandra...etc....(create a shade garden rather than a lawn). I would "try" lawn seed if any of you guys provided enough information to satisfy my doubts, but that's just not happening for some reason. ???
Just water a couple minutes every couple of hours or 4 times a day. It really varies though depending on soil and location whether it's full sun or shade. Full sun yes you need to water more often. Same goes for sandy soils, on newly seeded greens or sprigged we usually water for 5 minutes every hour when the sun is up.
The PRG and the creep red fescue a when cut long and watered enough should survive. Especially without any of the sun evaporating the moisture. Just my thoughts
Almost a year later now... how's it looking? Do you need to overseed that area every year? How do we think this would hold up in the shade, but 100+ degree temperatures?
@@TheLawnTools Maybe you could add a note at the end of the video about this? I keep seeing videos about shade grass and no one ever tells you about a need to keep re-seeding. I hate to think of all the people out there going to the trouble of even "trying" to have a shady lawn only to be disappointed in a year or two.
Just get some soil delivered to your house and spread it on the bare spots. Rack out the bare spots with a hard rake or rototiller, spread seed, rake out again, spread seed, water.
@@TheLawnTools Ok awesome sounds good , I for some reason had some bad luck here in New England with my backyard just didn’t have the time to water and also we have tons of wild turkeys
This was early spring. It will grow but you will have much better success of it staying alive if you wait until fall. It would be hard for roots to establish before high heat at this point
@@TheLawnTools awesome thanks for the reply. I just spread top soil on my hilly yard, and I am eager to get something rooted for erosion control, but I think it’s futile now. Just have to hope what is there spreads
Nope, that grass stops growing in temps over 85 degrees and will eventually die in the south. You'll need to reseed every year and water the area frequently. St augustine sod or zoysia seed is your best bet but zoysia seed is under a shortage right now so it might be more reasonable to go the zoysia sod route as well. Zoysia looks reasonably similar to Bermuda so it might not look terrible growing a high class zoysia under your tree and Bermuda everywhere else and you can treat them almost the same nutrient and maintenance wise. But another tip would be to make a large mulch ring for your tree. It's good for the tree and the yard as a whole.
I have about the same size area at the bottom of our deck that is shaded by a fig tree. Basically bare dirt. So, no cultivating is needed, right? I can simply put down a layer of topsoil, then seed it, right?
I used Barenbrug RTF tall fescue for a total renovation last fall and it did amazing! They have fantastic products. Glad to see the shade savant did magnificent.
Where did you buy a ton live here in Oklahoma
I done a really slesy thing that makes my lawn actually look quite good. I mixed like 15 different kind of grass seed and just sprayed them around everywhere. The lawn is very uniformly uninformed, so it actually looks rather good. When going from a sunny spot to a shady spot one type of grass takes over gradually, making the border being pretty much invisible.
This is actually really genius to me
Pro tip buried in the comments 😢
It would be interesting to know what these different kinds of seeds were.
What type of grasses did you mix?
That turned out amazingly!! nice work.
Wow!! So there is hope for my shaded backyard!!
Wow that just doesn't look like the same spot. What a change, there is grass where there was only dirty. Nice!
That's not just Fescue, that is creeping red which is a very interesting variety of Fescue. It's a fine Fescue that sends out runners. Most are the bunching variety, creeping red will get thicker over time. It will keep it's color very well even during the cold.
I’ve been using baking soda. I will see how it works.
First Aussie 😁. A great transformation, the toolsinlaws will be impressed. 😎👍👍
Looks good! Will be interesting what it looks like in two years. I seem to have good luck for a year or two in the shade, then it starts to thin out.
It's been 2 years and I'm curious as well
@@sk8infreekyeah what’s the update
I’d love to see an update on how it’s doing after another month or so
Yes, so do I. I have great success planting new grass and it looks good, but it never stays a full year, it just dies in summer.
@@Adi-Sya its bs
They have edging at Lowe's that you put on the ground and hammer in spikes , it's very easy.
I just planted this shade savant a week ago and it grows in very hard areas. Most all the seed took off growing and covered massive bare spots in my yard.
Where can you buy this grass seed at?
@@SouthernMuscleCo Their website.
@@SouthernMuscleCo Their website. I just planted some more today.
I love Barenbrug seeds... I have their RTF seeds and they sprout quite quickly. It's the first year so I have not seen its spreading ability but I look forward to that next year.
Wow great results .Good thing it wasn't my in-laws .I was thinking rock garden and circular driveway but then again I am not The Lawn Tools. Good call :)
Looks great! Please update us on how it's doing in a month or so.
Should try out some KBG there under that tree at some point, because well trying to get grass to look good under trees is a constant battle of just putting seed down
I am flabbergasted !
Turned out great! Impressive for how shady that is.
There are newer Bermuda Cultivars in the works. But for right now, Celebration Bermuda is one of the best for shade tolerance but like you said that doesn't mean complete shade. Even though I have a degree in Turf Management I have no clue on the workings of breeding grasses besides for the common sense parts. If possible I would love to see a cross breeding of Bermuda and Zoysia, maybe Artificial Intelligence could figure that out and what would be best on swapping out DNA strains or genomes as some call it.
That turned out amazing for Dense shade. 😎
DANG, that worked well. SOOO a fescue for my shady ares. Thanks, mate. And my neighbour's too, I suspect.
Many thanks! I am looking forward to have green grass in my shaded areas! Thank you for the video!
Indeed looks amazing! Now they will want to overseed the dorm of Bermuda as to not have a green spot in the winter. 🙃
Rofl 👍
Thats awesome looking great job in-laws and right tool!!! Looks beautiful
Will be interested to see if it thins out any as it matures with that amount of shade. That is what I ran into with mine for any shade mixes in the past. That would be amazing if it can keep healthy though under that!
I’ve experienced the same thing.
looks great. next time you're there can we see the line where it switches from bermuda to fescue?
I bought my property because it has lots of really nice shade trees and I have grass growing under them. You just have to use the correct grass seed
The west side of my house does the same thing. I might have to convert it to a shrub bed.
For that much shade the results are great!
That’s amazing. I’ll be using that next season. Thank you!
I guess you could get that to survive in Texas if you watered it consistently. I’ve just settled with dirt under my pecan.
Is there an update on this yard? I’m wanting to plant fescue in a thinned out wooded area for my sheep, but idk if it gets enough sunlight
That is insane. I know what I am getting. WOW
Thx sir. If I ever get to work on the lawn this year I may have to try that blend.
hmm may be just the ticket for one of my project lawns.
Hi can you do another update on how is standing now... I've used seeds before and after a few month it dies out.
That's a really cool transformation!
Great results indeed! What zone is this? and how's it holding up?
That looks way better than the Bermuda that's there
Ya pnw is what im looking for. Grass in the south is so much easier
It’s the intro for me 😮💨🤣
I don't understand why people can't figure this out. Buy a dense shade grass. Newer zoysia cultivars or fescue blends are the best bet but even than they still NEED 3 hour of light. Best bet is to take down the tree or limb it up / thin it out.
What does it look like now? My experience with deep shade mix is that it dies by July. (Ontario, Canada)
I live in a trailer park in Alberta. I have a huge mayday tree in my yard that shades a big section of my yard. In the summer it is FULL shade. Like DARK DARK shade. Zero light, zero grass...lots of MUD. My lot gets very waterlogged, to the point where some parts of the lawn have decided to just trade grass for moss, but moss won't even grow under this tree. What are the chances that this stuff will actually grow? I'm so tired of dealing with the mud. If there's no snow on it, it's just mud.
Oh no! The purchase link does not work anymore. Trying to find this product. Amazon says it’s no longer available too.
Pennington makes a version as well, look for the creeping red fescue that’s the main shade ingredient.
Must have been planted in the fall in Florida. No way that grass seed survives 90 plus degree temperatures and 80 plus percent humidity. It will die hard. I've heard the only thing that will work in the summertime in such conditions in the shade is St Augustine and it requires regular watering regiment, especially under a tree where it's difficult for a normal rain shower to get to the ground.
Pretty cool 😎👌🏽
Very nice!!!
Wow! Impressive.
Looks good. 🙂
I live in San Antonio TX. My front lawn has a lot of shade and my back yard has more sun. What type of grass seed should I buy? I have struggled with this lawn for 10 years with nothing much growing in the shade and the grass in the back yard getting burned. I am on a budget and would like the best solution possible. Thank you.
It looks so great...thanks for the help.
Yes! How much you water just depends upon how long it's taking to dry out...and that's different for everyone, in every area, at any time, depending on c limate and weather conditions. JUST KEEP IT FROM DRYING OUT!
My next rant is about the fact that none of you lawn guys making videos seem to think it's important to talk about "where" you're located...and how the type of "shade grasses" you're using tolerate that climate over time. Just because it comes up, does not mean it will survive for long. I would LOVE to plant grass in my very shady front yard, but I've been advised by a local landscaping company not to even bother....but, rather, to plant things like hostas...liriope...pachysandra...etc....(create a shade garden rather than a lawn). I would "try" lawn seed if any of you guys provided enough information to satisfy my doubts, but that's just not happening for some reason. ???
Amazing results !! Looks awesome ! Nicely done
Omg! Love it!
Could you do an update on how it's looking now?
Just water a couple minutes every couple of hours or 4 times a day. It really varies though depending on soil and location whether it's full sun or shade. Full sun yes you need to water more often. Same goes for sandy soils, on newly seeded greens or sprigged we usually water for 5 minutes every hour when the sun is up.
Great results! 👍
Won't the rye die off when the temps hit the mid 100s?
I'd like to know the answer to this too. My thinking is it will definitely die.
The PRG and the creep red fescue a when cut long and watered enough should survive. Especially without any of the sun evaporating the moisture. Just my thoughts
mid 100s 😲
How can i reach this product plz I need a lot of this because my park is in complete shadow
Will the fescue over take or dominate Bermuda grass ??
Could someone please answer those question… could I lay thsi seed in February?? As long as it gets the water it needs
Wonderful. Thank you
Almost a year later now... how's it looking? Do you need to overseed that area every year? How do we think this would hold up in the shade, but 100+ degree temperatures?
Have to over seed each fall. 100 degree temps it needs cooled down (watered) very regularly
@@TheLawnTools Maybe you could add a note at the end of the video about this? I keep seeing videos about shade grass and no one ever tells you about a need to keep re-seeding. I hate to think of all the people out there going to the trouble of even "trying" to have a shady lawn only to be disappointed in a year or two.
Great grass! But as a videographer, you should consider making way more eye contact with the camera
Wow just Wow
What part of the country will this grass grow in? I'm in Texas will it do well? Isn't ryegraas a cold season grass?
Does it matter the kind of dirt that is below the new dirt that was spread? Will this work for N Texas clay dirt?
Just get some soil delivered to your house and spread it on the bare spots. Rack out the bare spots with a hard rake or rototiller, spread seed, rake out again, spread seed, water.
Great video
Was that Left Tool at the end?
I noticed you didn’t spread hay after seeding; is that cause it’s a shady area or do you usually not do that?
I'm looking for a grass type that will work under trees, use very little water like LM Berea and can stripe. Any ideas
How long before you did they did the first cut on that grass? How long would you recommend to wait?
Looks awesome! Out of interest how to did you keep the birds away from eating the seeds?
I’ve never had too much of a problem with that
Well done! Totally blown away! What day and time of month did you do that?
Looks like a Tuesday around hate it thirty.
Wow that’s looks great !, so you put down top soil and then the seeds ? Did you mix in the seeds with the top soil?
Thanks
I just put them on top
@@TheLawnTools
Ok awesome sounds good , I for some reason had some bad luck here in New England with my backyard just didn’t have the time to water and also we have tons of wild turkeys
Where can I find this Shade Savant grass seed ???looked on Amazon and nothing, same on google
Nice ❤
Wow what a result. what time of the year was this? I have the exact problem but I don’t think fescue and rye will grow in Virginia until fall.
This was early spring. It will grow but you will have much better success of it staying alive if you wait until fall. It would be hard for roots to establish before high heat at this point
@@TheLawnTools awesome thanks for the reply. I just spread top soil on my hilly yard, and I am eager to get something rooted for erosion control, but I think it’s futile now. Just have to hope what is there spreads
Nice
Be nice if you could actually find this other than Amazon for a hefty price.
2 Weeks? Thats hard for me to believe.
I live in NY half of my yard haves shade and other does not. My grass is brown haves spots. Which best seed do you recommend
this is awesome ! can i use this for st augustine grass? thanks in advance
So will this work in places like South Texas all year long? I have a spot by my gate which gets 0 sun... this could be a great alternative.
Nope, that grass stops growing in temps over 85 degrees and will eventually die in the south. You'll need to reseed every year and water the area frequently. St augustine sod or zoysia seed is your best bet but zoysia seed is under a shortage right now so it might be more reasonable to go the zoysia sod route as well. Zoysia looks reasonably similar to Bermuda so it might not look terrible growing a high class zoysia under your tree and Bermuda everywhere else and you can treat them almost the same nutrient and maintenance wise. But another tip would be to make a large mulch ring for your tree. It's good for the tree and the yard as a whole.
Would it do well with kids in the backyard?
What if you have hybrid Bermuda and now reel mowing? Would you just go with ryegrass? Memphis area
Going to get me some of this for under the tree. Does it blend pretty well with Bermuda?
I tried several times to grow grass in sandy shady areas under maple no success ☹️
Will this grow in Central Florida in Polk County
4 times a day for 20-30 min?
Would this work in Ohio? Same shade problem, didn’t know if Zones mattered.
that is 2021, what does it look like now?
B e a utiful
I have about the same size area at the bottom of our deck that is shaded by a fig tree. Basically bare dirt. So, no cultivating is needed, right? I can simply put down a layer of topsoil, then seed it, right?
Yep!
How do they play together.......?
What does the grass look like
What hardiness zone are you in?
So you dont need to use peat moss?
I can NOT find this seed. I like he blend and that you specify in Bermuda grass territory. Any Ideas?
It's on their website. I just bought 2 20lbs bags of it a few months back.
My tree looks bare underneath just like that spot