Tiye: The Queen Who Murdered Her Pharaoh | Ramesses III | Queen Tiye

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @makeupboss3568
    @makeupboss3568 8 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks so much , I see anything pertaining to Ancient Egypt and I’m hooked. I appreciate good history , even the backstories and the ones that get forgotten. This was a rare treat, I knew so little of Queen Tiye .

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I don't do ancient history often, but I really love anything with Ancient Egypt. ☺

    • @makeupboss3568
      @makeupboss3568 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople how about Ancient Greece ? That would be amazing.

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 Год назад +20

    Oooh Ancient Egyptian history! A classic that never fails to glue me in

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +3

      There is something about Ancient Egyptian history, isn't there?

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 Год назад +1

      @@HistorysForgottenPeopleompletely mesmerising! I believe (together with Medieval history, of course😉) it was my first historical interest- I remember once my dad went to Cairo and he brought back some little things (including a stuffed animal which we sadly had to leave in Angola while leaving :(( ) that I cherish ‘till this day

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +1

      @@lfgifu296 Oooh, I love a David Suchet Poirot - either Death on the Nile or The Orient Express for me. Cosy evening in, Poirot on, heating on, mug of hot chocolate. Rock n' roll, haha!

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 Год назад

      @@HistorysForgottenPeopleTotally! As much as I went about my fav ones being in Egypt, the Orient Express one is my ultimate favourite- it’s perfect- the cold case, a heartbreaking one at that- Ratchett, who committed that and other atrocities yet seems to have regretted but not as much for actually being sorry as for wanting divine protection; the twelve murderers of Ratchett, who were undoubtedly ruthless yet understandably so- as one lady said, they were not murderers, they merely did what justice didn’t, and when a gentleman felt an urge to kill Poirot to keep him quiet that same lady stopped him, saying that if they did it they were no better than Ratchett himself; and, ultimately, Poirot’s own struggle in wether or not he should give them out to the authorities, and ultimately praying and holding his rosary while he walks away after deciding to let them go free- all in all, the psychology explored in that episode, of every.single.character, makes it something else for me- I deadass get emotional talking and thinking about it- not emotional like crying because it’s sad but because it is so well made it mesmerises me!

    • @disiluzhund
      @disiluzhund Год назад

      😂 😂 Oooh!

  • @lleonasantos9515
    @lleonasantos9515 Год назад +14

    I didn't think the Egyptian royals would do something like this since most feer and respect the sun god so much. But it's nice to know that women had a lot of power there, unlike their counterparts.
    Thanks for the video and I'm looking forward to more!

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +7

      You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 You're right, women didn't have complete equality, but in the ancient world, Egypt was the most liberal and allowed women a lot of rights.

    • @Philip-bk2dm
      @Philip-bk2dm Год назад +4

      It seems that throughout history ambition, greed, and ego supersedes fear of divine justice for the powerful. And a Born-Again Christian acquaintance tells me that all sins, even murder, are forgiven by simply proclaiming belief in Jesus as a "personal savior". Sounds like magic to me, but to each her/his own I suppose. Perhaps she had a similar formula.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +4

      @Philip Reminds me of a phrase that encapsulates that idea - "it's better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission". Not my personal mantra, but it explains a lot throughout history!

    • @writercode2910
      @writercode2910 6 месяцев назад

      The coup planners were composed of the people closest to the Pharaoh, i.e., the people who knew him to be nothing more that mortal.
      My hypothesis does hit a snag when it comes to explaining away the black magic bit though, but in my defense, i'd say it was all about covering all the bases

  • @judaprinxbeatz.8008
    @judaprinxbeatz.8008 Год назад +20

    GOTTA LOVE AFRICAN HISTORY OF KEMET 😉

    • @laythadrian5705
      @laythadrian5705 Год назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JustMe-no8el
      @JustMe-no8el 9 месяцев назад +2

      You know it! E1b1a is a sub Saharan African haplogroup. They said Ramses iii was that. So uh yeah African history of kemet

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 8 месяцев назад

      Will you do Rameses iii eventually?

    • @Magneto4191
      @Magneto4191 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@laythadrian5705what’s funny? Ramses direct descendants is a black man in Atlanta Georgia so like he said African History

    • @jaimecurtis
      @jaimecurtis 7 месяцев назад

      Ramsey III was not black he was European his mother was European and many of his w

  • @sunniblacc78
    @sunniblacc78 10 месяцев назад +7

    My DNA test says I share a paternal lineage with Ramses iii 👑✊🏿

  • @Philip-bk2dm
    @Philip-bk2dm Год назад +8

    It's off topic, but I was struck by the contrast between the formal art of the royals with its ridged stylization and the freedom and spontaneity (and more natural perspective as we understand it today) of the marvelous painting you show at 8:44-9:00. It proves that not all Ancient Egyptians were born sideways. Anyway, great video. Many thanks.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +3

      Haha, you're right, some of them we definitely born the right way around! 🤣 The artists of the day definitely had a good handle on how people should actually look and move, a lot of less formal statues are usually very life-like. If you look for the little wax or clay figures that were put into tombs (I think they were called Ashanti off the top of my head?) are often very detailed and highly observant of real postures and movements. But for whatever reason, someone decided the sideways look was in for more important art. Although, of course, that has a beauty of its own, too, in my humble opinion. 😊

    • @Philip-bk2dm
      @Philip-bk2dm Год назад +1

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople I agree!

    • @reneedailey1696
      @reneedailey1696 Год назад +1

      ​@@HistorysForgottenPeopleUshabti figures!
      The Ashanti are an African people who ate pretty interesting themselves!

    • @TheKoolbraider
      @TheKoolbraider 6 месяцев назад

      People were shown with what would look "regular". Shoulders were more recognizable when seen full on, the face in profile, hips and legs also shown pointing forward, etc. Learned this in art classes in college. Heads turned a bit were much more difficult. And forget about perspective! Big ears were a symbol of the pharaoh being able to hear everything. Symbology plays a very large part of Egyptian art.

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 Год назад +9

    I didn’t know there was more than one Egyptian Queen named Tiye. My favorite Queen is Tiye but she’s Amenhotep iii’s wife.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +4

      THAT Tiye (Amenhotep's) was definitely an interesting figure, I can see why she's your favourite! For a period in which you hardly ever se Pharoah's wives in the record other than 'as his wife', Amenhotep's Tiye was a really important advisor and courtier in her own right. I think I'll definitely have to do a video on her at some point. 😊

    • @PerfectlyImperfect93
      @PerfectlyImperfect93 Год назад +1

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople Yes, Please do so if you can! ☺️

    • @reneedailey1696
      @reneedailey1696 Год назад

      I actually clicked wondering how that Tiye killed a later king- NGL, this ended up being a neat video.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 11 месяцев назад

      How many egyptian queens were named time.

    • @cristina6427
      @cristina6427 9 месяцев назад

      Nk you. Divine blessings

  • @yodon6867
    @yodon6867 Год назад +6

    That's why you never piss off a black woman

  • @lindahouston5635
    @lindahouston5635 Год назад +1

    Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing it!

  • @clareharrison3361
    @clareharrison3361 Год назад +3

    That was was really good.

  • @Lukefederella
    @Lukefederella Год назад +2

    I need this to be a movie!

  • @eranaheke8370
    @eranaheke8370 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love the kemet history and the beginning of true kings and queens.

  • @kitkat2263
    @kitkat2263 Год назад +2

    Wow this one was pretty gory. 😬 Humanity can be so brutal!

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад

      Oh, it really can - one of the downsides of looking at history, sadly. It's a good thing all the other better stuff happened, too!

  • @ReVelopers
    @ReVelopers 11 месяцев назад +5

    I’m a direct descendent of pharaoh Rameses iii 😊

    • @ReVelopers
      @ReVelopers 11 месяцев назад +2

      And I’m black in case your are wondering

    • @ReVelopers
      @ReVelopers 11 месяцев назад +3

      Imagine I was serving the marines and visited Egypt twice not knowing this is the land of my ancestors

    • @jobethrico
      @jobethrico Месяц назад

      @@ReVelopers- r u Dexter's cousin?

  • @buttercxpdraws8101
    @buttercxpdraws8101 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love this ✌️💕🌻

  • @mortimusmaximus8725
    @mortimusmaximus8725 Год назад +6

    Tiye time 🍵

  • @cristina6427
    @cristina6427 9 месяцев назад +1

    Tiye was Amenophis III's wife and my past incarnation

  • @elizabethmurphy3832
    @elizabethmurphy3832 Год назад +3

    Ironic that T's daughter married Ramsees and so ...did all that T had wanted. I guess I'll go Google to see if she had a son??

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +2

      She did - Ramesses V, I think! It was quite a messy dynasty, off the top of my head, as a lot of the pharaohs died quite young or only a few years into their reign. So there was quite a bit of fifth-son-of-the-third-wife-of-the-fouth-pharaoh going on. 🤔

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 Год назад +3

    Btw, how would your “favourite to least favourite Tudor monarch” list go and why? Have a nice weekend!

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +1

      I'm so sorry, you did ask me this last week, and I forgot to answer it! I don't have a list as such, but my least favourite is probably Henry VIII - maybe an obvious answer, I don't know! As a person he was fairly horrible, and as a king he made decisions that created religious war in his kingdom, so...not the best monarch.
      My favourite is actually (although I liked pointing out her cruel flaws in another video) Elizabeth I. Although I don't think she was a very nice person personality-wise, she was the most successful monarch of the Tudor dynasty, and she stabilised the economy, prevented invasion, and ensured the security of England and Scotland through making James VI of Scotland her heir. She also put her country first.
      The others I feel are all in the middle, in one way or another. Not enough about Edward to really go on, Mary probably had the nicest personality, but wasn't the best queen (although to play Devil's Advocate, only got a few years at it), and Henry VII was a competent ruler, but may or may not have been involved in the murder of the two princes in the Tower.

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 Год назад +1

      @@HistorysForgottenPeopleHello! Sorry for only answering now! (guess I’m the one who didn’t answer now haha😭) If you are in England the timezone is the same as in Portugal so it’s past 23 :’)
      I must agree- I feel like I have to divide them in two categories: personality and kindness wise and reign wise.
      When in comes to how good their reign was, it’d probably go
      Elizabeth- she was, indeed, a good ruler ( though I find the whole Spanish Armada victory a tad overrated- it was mostly due to weather luck)
      Henry VII- despite his later greed, he was competent
      Mary I- not the best, though it’s good to emphasise her good points, her care for the poor (she took time to hear the complaints of her people)
      Henry VIII- Ig hadn’t he been so egocentric he might have been a competent ruler, but due to all you mentioned plus his libido he was not.
      Edward VI- though the part he actually took on the actions during his reign is debatable (at least in its beginnings) his reign was, to my mind at least, atrocious😭
      As to personality:
      -Mary
      -Henry VII
      -Edward VI
      -Elizabeth
      -Henry VIII

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад +2

      @@lfgifu296 Basically, we can all agree Henry VIII was the worst-all-round king of the Tudor dynasty, possibly in the running for worst-all-round-king EVER. 🤣

  • @chiaze
    @chiaze Год назад +1

    8:26 Is that actually a picture of what Tiye (or Tyti, historians are unsure) looked like? Like the outfit and all?

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад

      There are no actual known images of Tiye as she would effectively have been removed from history, so I've used an image from iStock as a stand-in! Once I have the BBC's budget one day, I'll have more accurate images. 😊

    • @chiaze
      @chiaze Год назад +1

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople Oh so who were those images of that Egyptian queen of? I'm trying to envision what she would look like :)

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  Год назад

      @@chiaze They were (I think) just your generic Eypgtian queen/priestess type images. 😊

  • @Moneyman-lx3nw
    @Moneyman-lx3nw 7 месяцев назад +1

    My relatives

  • @Ravenproctor2966
    @Ravenproctor2966 11 месяцев назад +1

    How do we know for certain she'd killed her husband.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  11 месяцев назад +1

      Because of the court rolls, which also are basically the only proof we have of her existence, as well.

  • @alisasky-eaglesmith7172
    @alisasky-eaglesmith7172 Год назад +1

    But we do know what she looked like - she was identified in 2010 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiye

  • @yahusefbenyisrael8705
    @yahusefbenyisrael8705 Год назад +4

    Europeans tells everyone history interesting

    • @mamabear71234
      @mamabear71234 Год назад

      because they rule the world. it's not like it's a bad thing.

    • @cocoaorange1
      @cocoaorange1 9 месяцев назад +2

      I don't think only Europeans are gifted storytellers, that is unfair, but this narrator is good.

  • @stargazer5073
    @stargazer5073 Год назад +3

    A devious woman, who knew????????????