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YouTube Shorts, Videos, and Live Streams.. Put Them On 1 Channel or 3 Different Ones??
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What have you always been told about this topic? 3 channels or 1 channel?
3 channels
Honestly most advice I hear is kind of split down the middle but obviously some advice is from people without knowledge. "Don't take finance advice from poor people".
I lean toward your camp of keeping it on one channel.
If you are releasing tons of shorts every day, releasing your old catalog of videos in short form: New channel (Examples: DarkViperAU Shorts, JackSucksAtClips)
If you are releasing fewer shorts per day: Use your current channel (Examples: Linus Tech Tips, Colin and Samir)
And of course, if you are planning to create content that is very different than your current content, create a new channel! Like your example in the video: If your livestream is gaming but your channel content is vlog/tech, it is better to create a new channel, because if someone is subscribed to your channel for a specific content but then you release a content that is different than what they expect, they may unsubscribe from your channel!
For you, sure. For me, no. I need to grow my first and main channel first and then branch off into a 2nd and 3rd channel. Am I wrong?
Yo Harris, you do know that shorts show up in the “video” tab tho right? So the lack of thumbnails doesn’t look to great in that area.
the 3 points of why you make shorts, vids and livestreams is literally how i have been feeling for the last month to be honest and also very good video harris
Wow Harris! I'd say GET OUT OF MY HEAD, because I have been thinking a lot about this the last couple weeks, but No Please - Stay in there and keep answering the questions I don't know where to ask. :)
Thank you for this video Harris, you have essentially confirmed everything that I’ve been thinking recently for my channel. Much appreciated man, great video!
Midnight huge fan man
9:40 - Holy [bleep]!!! I've watched a ton of tips and tricks for using Shorts, and NOT ONE has mentioned that hugely important tip!!! Thanks, Harris! You rock! 🤘🏻
Streaming I can do, shorts I can do, making interesting 10+min content is where my brain dies. 😅
Set a goal with your stream and generally a video will formulate around it. Ludwig has very good advice about focusing streams.
Excellent video once again. Thank you! I was reluctant to post shorts for fear of diluting my content. Didn't realise you could choose to not have them publish to the subscription feed. Golden content mate!
Having it on one channel is obviously the ideal, so shorts help people discover you and live streams are there for people who already subscribe to you. But having everything can make the upload feed messy, which I don't like. Un-listing live streams is ok, but it would be sick if they made shorts, videos and live streams all appear in different sections rather than being all together in one upload feed.
EDIT: Side note, but for me personally (a gaming channel), having something like a 'sub-channel' would be cool, that can have different types content on - i.e. different game genres, different styles of videos, or to split up shorts, videos and streams - and allow people to mute if they don't want to see that type of content. Similar to how you can mute channels in a discord server.
Definitely, they need to change the upload feed
Not a second channel, playlists for each game. On the thumbnail name the game. Makes it easier for viewers to find what they want and skip what they dont.
@@WolfsHaven good option, but if I want I play different games from different genres you end up with a bad click through rate, as people may only subscribe for one game. I’d love to put everything on one channel but feel like it would have too many negative consequences.
Just make a shorts channel for shorts and a live channel for live stream playback. After live from your main channel, you re-upload it your live channel. Many large content creators like Nerdrotic do this.
Then you can add a Playlist on your main channel of your re-uploaded live content from your live channel.
@@DJSkandalous that defeats the points of shorts as Harris said in the video, as it’s a way of getting exposure. I’d like a way I could separate those content forms to different channels like you said, but when people click subscribe, they subscribe to everything all at once.
They key is definitely exposure. I have found that I had to increase the amount of shorts I post each week to really get the Algorithms attention though. Used to do 2, worked for a while but now doing 4 I seem to stay "relevant" in RUclipss eyes. Monetization is pretty poor so don't approach shorts in that aspect. Hoping it gets brighter in the future since its still early on.
Yeah I think they changed this around December 17th. Mine fell off a cliff then since I don't post consistently to it
Yeah I grinded out daily shorts in September and there were a few in a row that got in the queue but lately I've done a couple and none of them have picked up... So might have to do daily ones again
Great insight, as always! One thing I would love RUclips to implement alongside not showing shorts in the subscription feed (which should honestly be the default) would be for them to create a separate tab on the channel page. I don't want to scroll to 20 odd shorts to see the latest 3 longform videos a creator has posted.
Watch this video again, he give the answer you need.
Worth watching till the end for the little notification setting. Thanks for another great vid.
I’ve been doing RUclips now for only a few months about sim racing and I’ve gotten 11 subscribers since. I see reactors and other similar channels getting thousands of subs in just a couple of weeks of creating their channel. It made me feel as though I was doing a bad job. Now I have all sorts of social media to help me grow and started live streaming. I really appreciate this video sir, I will use it to my advantage!
I really like the Shorts discussion.
Shorts have helped a lot in my niche. There are very few Gundam creators that actually become bigger channels. I've felt like I'm swimming against the current with how undiscoverable my content is in comparison to the 2 or 3 bigger niche creators who absolutely BURY all the little ones. It's almost like I'm too niche. Thank you for all these tips! I'm going to implement them immediately!
You are AWESOME! Thank you so much. I searched and searched 'Will Shorts ruin my algorithm?" and finally there you were with great tips. Appreciate you and Thank you!
The thing about shorts is the insane growth a channel can have with it. Yeah most people just keep swiping and don't subscribe. But if you look at most of the major players on the shorts tab, they are relevatively newer channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers. Maybe created in 2020 or 2021 with close to 1 billion views which makes the channel stats look ridiculous. But surely a shorts view isn't the same as a regular video view, and shorts have been boosted like crazy by RUclips.
I have tested it many times, sometimes a shorts clip will be dead for weeks and then get a instant boost in the middle of the night. Then the video explodes for a few hours and then plummets back again. This is a repeating cycle of it being on the short shelf. My one short has 27 million views and all 27 million came after 4 months after the upload.
So yeah there are many channels that got lucky by placing tiktok content here early on. RUclips boosted many of these channels to enhance this feature. But I have noticed that it is extremely hard for these channels to get monetized and also get views on regular videos. 500K plus channels that get millions of views on shorts are only getting 500 views for a regular video. However the other thing I noticed with many of these shorts channels is the insane activity in the community post. My shorts channel started beating my main channel in interactions, poll votes and Likes on the community post. Even if I did similar post or totally different post. A 30K channel beating a 800K channel.
In comparison, on these other shorts channels with 100K-900K Subs like Viral Queens, The Isaac...they are pulling in twice as many votes and likes as subscribers. Many of these channels would yield up to 600K votes on a single poll and over 500K likes. And the channel wouldn't even have that many subscribers. And even on the smaller end, I've seen 50-75K subscriber channels get over 200K votes in a single poll. I did more investigating and found that many of the commenter were saying they weren't subscribed or even know who this person is.
So in conclusion, I don't think it hurts to start a shorts channel. You might get insane growth but it doesn't always translate to regular RUclips growth and viewership. And RUclips will make your community post more visible if you are a shorts based channel, even to non subscribers. (I Assume though that the non subscribers saw a video or two and kept swiping without seeing the name of the channel, but still lol)
I only read one of these paragraphs, not gonna lie lmao
@@BigRobEnergy and that's okay. I only elaborated for the people really torn on what to do.
@Tadd Mencer that is the best way to go about it. I don't think shorts will ever be monetizable. Most won't want an add after every short video. It will kill the enormous growth of the videos and the feature itself. But yes, try some pinned comments to see if that draws interest anywhere else. And like I said in my post, if the influx of new growth is mainly from your shorts, you should see a uptick in activity on your community post. That may be also a way to get some new subscribers into longer forms of content from you.
Exactly
I really wish that RUclips would fix the pages on channels. Right now, all public shorts, livestreams, and videos are jumbled up under one tab (on computer at least). It would be extremely cool if they made a tab specifically for videos (that would look just like the videos tab now), one dedicated for shorts (that would bring you to a shorts player), and one specifically for livestreaming (maybe it could look a lot like a twitch homepage).
It would also be really cool if each creator had the ability to enable or disable these tabs. That way someone who never livestreams doesn't have to have a blank livestreams tab and same goes for the other two tabs. On top of that it would be perfect if the creator had the ability to order these three tabs as well. So if a creator was exclusively a livestreamer, they could put that tab first even before videos if they wanted to.
The tip for shorts not showing up in the subscribers feed is worth the price of admission. Great stuff man.
I know my man Harris can afford an iron... I know he can 😂
As a new creator on RUclips, I think combining regular videos and Shorts to gain some traction isn't a bad idea. That's what I'm trying at the moment and a friend who has a fairly successful channel also suggested. Once you start seeing some growth, I think it's situational based on your analytics whether you split the channels up or keep them together.
This is why Harris is a legend guys. a crash course for RUclips successes for free. the only problem is. It's longer than 10 Minutes 🤣🤣 Love your content and has been following your amazing tips for so long now. Thanks man.
This is soooo helpful, after looking for answers for the last hour you just covered them all in one video. Love your content, thank you!
Dude thank you so much, i was wondering exactly this very same thing, love ya dude
I've been wracking my head over this and your simple solution of unchecking the 'deliver shorts to subs' box is genius! Thank you for this
Thanks for all the advice and information. A few of my best performers are live streams that take off later. I personally don’t hide them from my regular video shelf.
Harris. I continue to learn everything I need about RUclips from YOU! Thank you so much. Uploaded my first video a month ago and got lucky w the algos. 8k subs! Anyway, thanks for this video. I'm re-organizing my channel now and will rethink through the shorts and live stream strategy.
holypoop, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for and MORE! Thank you my dude. Now I am not worried about any type of contens I upload anymore
Harris, I think it’s worth noting. Most people when they subscribe will rarely ever get live notifications, if they haven’t taken the extra step to enable ‘All Notifications’. That’s the ONLY thing I like about twitch.
This is actually make a perfect sense. Thanks for this!
watching your RUclips channel has been so helpful. While i do not have a youtube channel I'm so much more confident to start one as I now know a lot of the things that I otherwise would not have known! Keep the content up and I hope that more people discover you!
Thank you for the info! I had no idea that you could post shorts but not have them come up on subscriber feeds!
I'm almost ready to declare that you provide the most useful advice....in the Useful Advice category.
There was another guy who figured out how to get cats to not look down on humans.......so it is between the two channels.
I feel like I should be paying for this information, you really are the GOAT
I love the best practices section. Thank you!
You have that one Dev or team that made this mystery 'algorithm' sitting the in their office saying "THEY'LL NEVER FIGURE IT OUT"
This video makes a LOT of sense. Solid, REAL advice on stuff like this is so hard to come by, even for people familiar with the platform.
4:00 I always appreciate your Pokemon references. Its the only thing i understand.
I posted 30 shorts over the course of 2 months on days when I didn’t post a video. While they did get decent views they didn’t get hardly any subs.
To me there are people that watch shorts and people that don’t and even if you get subs from shorts it doesn’t mean they will watch your videos or live streams.
I ultimately decided to create a second channel for the content that would be shorts and for videos I just want to make but might not do well on my main channel.
The intro was so relatable like holy shit
Obviously not because my broke ass is building something its just the building near us is being demolished
Been watching your stuff for the better part of 2 years now and picked up a lot of very useful tricks, so just wanted to say thanks. This video particularly caught my eye because a month ago I decided to start a new channel for another project, so the timing here was super convenient haha
I have 3, but I have one for Gaming and IRL, while the 2nd one is for Reactions and the Third one is for Shorts! I do my streams on the main first one, and works out great! But having different channels with different “categories ideas” yes should be separated, good tips!
never considered turning off sub feed for shorts, great idea
Please add some tracks which do not use any instruments (virtual or real), but just vocals (or beatboxing). That'll really be helpful for so many people like me to choose them :)
Just started looking into doing RUclips content, this was perfect timing tbh lmao! Cheers senpai UwU
Also Ryan's song does things to me that not even my wife can do.
Great advice! Especially changing your livestream and shorts so that they don't bother your current subs
Advice here is golden. Thank you!
I wasn't thinking of doing shorts when I start actually making videos but now I might reconsider and do it the way you do it.
Everything in this video is spot on. Especially with shorts! For me and my channel’s content, everything on one channel makes way more sense.
Geat job as always, Harris!
The sound of progress at the start of a video ... Thumbs uP !!!
Having a strategy is the key! Thanks Harris.
It would be amazing if youtube let you customise your channel a bit more with tabs and such outside of your homepage. I would be pushing shorts more if they didn't clog up my uploads tab, but if they had their own tab there would be no reason for me to not post one per day, especially as what you mentioned that you can choose to not send shorts uploads to the subscriber feed. My regular videos and shorts can exist next to eachother without either annoyting the other - same could go for livestreams - without me having to manage multiple channels. Especially if you're small, you don't want to put half your effort in one of your two channels and only get half the audience in either, when you could have it on your one main channel.
Ho, fancy seeing you here Ezzy. And I agree with all you said, have same worries of shorts clogging the upload tab.
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Totally agree. It just looks unorganized to have regular uploads and shorts on the same tab. At least with livestreams you can create thumbnails to make them look like published videos, but more tabs would be fantastic
It looks like that day has finally come.
Geez this ad read was one of the few ones that made me actually want to buy the thing
It's the way Ludwig still playing pogostuck is in the scroll through of recommended videos for me
This video is literally so good, thanks 💯
I'm new to how things work, ty for the amazing insights!
You and your group keep making bangers 🔥
This was a life saving vid for me....Thanks Harris...I was super confused but not anymore
Your content is *so fire* , always learning something new from you. Been using the Past Livestreams one for a while now but will start implementing the RUclips Shorts one now as well!
I’ve been thinking about this as well. Since making shorts and trying to find good content, I didn’t want to overload one channel. But I think it would be easier for me to load my content to one channel. Since having a slow growth on twitch I’m going to be going to RUclips soon, and having to manage 2-3 channels by myself would eat up more of my time than trying to manage one channel by myself. I just have to find out a good schedule with streams, recording, and shorts. But thankfully RUclips has made the option for clips from streams, and I can pull snippets from recordings to make shorts for new audience. Nonetheless, this video helped me understand it better and easier decide what I should do. Thank you Harris!
I see you changed the thumb. GJ! This one is way better!
Geez this was the first time an ad read actually made me want to buy the product
I was having trouble maintaining a weekly upload of long form content, as I know many others do with commitments, so I pivoted solely to shorts for a while to ensure I had videos up weekly in the alogrithm, which I've had some decent success. I have already and highest rate of subscribers over a 3 month period. I am now doing long form videos once a month as it's more manageable and using the shorts (2 a week) to drive people to that. I really do believe in Harris' three pronged approach but sometimes you have to pick what keeps you consistent when life gets busy as well.
Great video. Always find your content useful, same as one on lighting you did. First time I found something interesting in regards to shorts. for a while I've been thinking of stopping this channel, it's my food review band recipe channel. Hasn't grown in many years even thou I out so much work into it... Your video gives me some ideas for bthis channel and my other ones.. I have 3 other channels filmmaking, exploring and a film pitching channel which all kind of slow too. Lol but basically all my hobbies.
I also uncheck the subscriber feed box when I post shorts for the same reason!
Loved the explanation :) Great work; ty.
Good stuff Harris. You nailed it. I mean it's in perfect match with the way I thought about this topic. I loved the hint to unlist live videos (I wish we would be there yes)... smart and logical thinking. The same goes for "do no notify subs" when you upload shorts. I hope this video is going to get tons of views.
By the way... I like the idea of this video's thumb but I think you could visually somehow display it better. I had to look at it for a short time until I realise what you want to tell me :D
Dropping the knowledge as always! Great stuff. Thanks Senpai!
Going to try an start doing daily streams and 3 videos a week so this has been really informative.
"you know that USB mic ive been a fan of?"
me: Yea, I got it...
That last part was the best thank you for that information!
I like how you organize the videos. It's overwhelming to have shorts + long form and feel like each one is diluting the other.
So what I’m hearing here is if my shorts/streams are relevant to my content then a single channel is okay. Cool! Thank you o7
I think increasingly you are probably right about combining everything into one channel. However, many of the largest names in podcasting (e.g. Diary of a CEO, Hubberman Lab, MKBHD's Waveform Podcast, etc.) all created one RUclips channel for full episodes and a separate RUclips channel for clips and shorts. I wonder if this was because right when RUclips released shorts, RUclips hadn't worked everything out yet, and large creators thought they had more to potentially lose than to gain, so wanted to test it in a more protected setting. If they were making the decision in 2023, I wonder if they would have combined everything into one channel instead. What do you think?
You’re a legend for stream beats btw
In my experience if your shorts, streams, and videos all cover the same topic there's no harm in keeping them all in the same place. Just utilize the momentum you get from shorts to promote your videos as you said. I've seen my long form videos get an insane boost in views ever since I started doing consistent shorts since my shorts target the same community my long form videos do.
We are both on the Same page family
I just started posting shorts (regularly) and I've seen MASSIVE growth. 60K subs this month. You never know when one of those shorts will pop off. I still stream on a second channel but Long form and Short form content on the same channel has worked for me.
Damn 60K in a month is impressive, I am happy if I can get 2 per month HAHA! I am still unsure if to run a "shorts" channel or not to be fair. I know that YT will likely change their ideas and monetize a shorts channels because tiktok does. I feel posting once a fortnight isnt really giving me the traction I would like, but I also dont want to be uploading every 4-5 days.
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Love this video, the only thing I can't get passed is you saying 'Shorts make no money' which may be true on the wider scale but with the shorts fund youtube introduced you can definitely make a living wage from their bonus scheme alone. However monetisation is low for most as theres no ads on the shorts feed.
How exactly does the monetization on shorts work?
thank you, your tips helped my channel to grow from 0-200 SUBS in 2 months, thx man!!! i hope all people who need help get where they wana be. keep up!
Thanks for this vid, I needed this!
Great tips and tricks! Thanks Harris!
Lewitt is a low-end professional brand. Not sure I'd be raving about how they partnered with Lewitt Audio. They make great mics sure, but they're not Neumann.
Goated. Had a Shorst Channel that's doing alright and the sub pass through was alright. So now maybe I can do that on one channel without being obnoxious.
I think with shorts it is okay to put in the same channel especially when channels are beginning, because it can help the channel with exposure. And the unlisted thing is golden advice! In the end it depends on how you wanna organize your channel.
Glad I found this video. I am trying to decide whether to start a new channel for my live streams. People come to my channel for easy and quick paperclip ring tutorials, but I enjoy doing one to two-hour live streams where I troubleshoot designs for more complex wire art designs. I have a smaller audience for the live streams but they are fun and interactive. Do you think I should start a new channel for the lives called "Wire Lady TV" (the name of the series)? I'm still stumped! Thank you!
I always wondered why I'd go to your personal channel and see a bunch of shorts I never had seen in my sub feed lol
thank u man
If what you describe is the statistical norm for consumers of RUclips, I am doing it wrong. I add videos to my watch later playlist. Most videos are from channels I subscribe to, others I find through RUclips suggestions. I rarely watch a video that is not on my playlist. But this is why I have 4,800 videos on my playlist going back years. The new shiny gets placed above the existing list. I try to curate my RUclips viewing. Don't get me wrong there are times I get into a rhythm and keep watching suggested videos, such as 80s cartoon intros for nostalgia. Or times when I watch how to start a RUclips channel video after video. But never getting over feeling unsure of what I am doing, so I never start a video. I use RUclips like the podcasts I listen to as a means to keep up with technology and current events.
Thank you Senpai. Learning a lot here :)
One is caught up playing the impassioned protagonist in one’s Subjective Narrative of Self 🎈
Man love the tips about how to use the three formats together! Thanks!
Depends on your current size already. If you're just starting and trying to grow having 3 channels with low numbers helps nobody. Other channels should be started as your 1st or main channels reaches certain heights/numbers.
Great breakdown dude. 👍🏻
it looks like 4 giant nails/ spikes painted white coming out of your ceiling
Thank you for this great video! As a person that believes in achieving that perfect balance in life, you’ve nailed it with this video! Everything has its purpose, not everything has to be “better” than another thing. Why can’t everything just have its place, working harmoniously together 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Preach bro! A superb video! 💯💯💯
Im at the point that im so confused as to what to do with shorts and live streams and videos that I just decided to upload all the above on the same channel. I dont see the point of growing 3 channels when I dont even have 1 channel with at least 1k subs. As always tho great video and great info and I hope the baby aint keeping you up to much at night lol
I used to do shorts on a shorts channel, but this video motivates me to do it on my main channel instead… hmmm , but I feel like I should upgrade my shorts a bit haha
I didn't know that visibility option for Shorts - easily the most valuable part of the video for me, you should make a short just about that part!
Doesn't unlisting streams cause watch time to go with it, getting closer to the 4000 mark, sitting around 3300/4000 which is exciting because I've been working off and on the channel for a little over a year now.
This is exactly what I have been thinking about for the last week. This makes the choice much, much easier
Amazing tips thanks so much man love what you do!!