Why Did the World Ignore This Island for 15 Years?
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I love how the Tatooine poster matches the Fallout theme.
How you doing 42 🐱
Nice alliteration at the beginning there.
We wuv it when one winds well woven words.. 😉😉
Fanks 42! J/K 1LOVE
Thank you again thoughty2 I have been following you for years now am a subscriber don't know why I didn't years ago like thoughty2 (42) years ago
Im from Mauritius, and it's refreshing seeing 42 covering this history. Absolute legend
42?
@@adesoladada thoughty2 = 42
@@ismailrannoo3498 thoughty2 sounds more like 32 to me lol
@@MindlessTube but maybe not to someone from Mauritius 😉
@@MindlessTube Turn on the youtube auto subtitles, even the bot thinks he says 42 when he says Thoughty2 lol
Mankind saddens me and inspires me at the same time
Living in the Fullness Of Humanity 💫 is important - The Wow, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - but mankind sure does like to pile on the in the ugly parts with it political BS.
It's quite problematic that it seems we only function well under pressure.
Even in a single one an obstacle releases some resistance, like when i was for half a year bound to the wheeel chair. I guess i haven't been so much outdoors as then (except work), you start to fight against this uncomfortable situation.
But the crazy thing is that in it lies a big danger, i can abuse this human behave for mass manipulation.
It's the classic setup, create an enemy image this will unite my ppl.
It will force them to do almost incredible things since all have a common target now.
And the "positive" results will drive it almost by itself, but one can call this fascism, i mean that it is.
That's a strong weakness if you think about.
But it isn't if you are aware of this weakness.
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Under pressure...
and now it follows me, turd ;)
Same with me.
@@openminds8765 "theres a good, bad and ugly in me, what separates me from the rest is that im aware of it" - me
@@karlhans6678I might steal that quote... So should I say I'm quoting Karl Hans or me???
An astounding feat to survive such a scenario. It's crazy that saving them these days would be like, a few short helicopter rides to the island and back. No sweat.
Search and rescue within 24 hours. HUGE difference :P
They were givin everything they needed to survive
Would they be there in the first place.
@FrancoAii that was my thought also as with modern maps and navigation the need for the rescue likely wouldn't be needed but still even today they have stuff go wrong and the is places still without access to these things (although they likely only small boats).
@@gypsyemperor7535 What do you mean, they had to dig for water and hunt for all the food and had to make their own bricks?
Hey Thoughty, I'm not really sure where you get your content to share, but your storytelling of all hidden gems are excellent and just wanted to say thanks.
Yes, the dynamic is very good in his speech, he knows how to fascinate with his voice.
I wonder if those 7 survivors have any descendants alive today
lol
They must. Definitely a muddled bloodline by now tho
Would certainly be interesting to find out.
I do appreciate your enthusiasm and energy you give the stories. A forgotten (almost) gift passed down through countless generations is the one of storytelling. It isn't as easy for people to pick up, it takes time, practice, and the ability to make other people "see" the events of the story. Keep up the good work, and pass it on!
The survivors were 7 women and an 8 month old infant. That means the last man survivor on the island died some time in the previous 17 months.
I wonder why only women survived. Seems somewhat odd.
Yes I'd like to know what happened, I suppose none of the survivors wrote a book about it. Maybe all the men killed each other with continual fights, and the women finished the last one off cos he was a pr*ck 😂
What happened to the rescued women? What a pity nobody thought to ask them how they survived for so long.
That’s what I was thinking. After all the effort to finally get them you would think there was some news report or some documentation of there story somewhere.
Never heard of this story before, those poor slaves didn't deserve this, they should never have been taken in the first place but they shown amazing strength to survive and hopefully this story will be told for more years to come. They're such an inspiration. ❤
How do you know they didn’t deserve it? I mean they probably didn’t. However, just automatically assuming that they were perfectly innocent is guessing.
@@dxb8086 True they may not all be innocent, but I just hate slavery in general
Thank you for not forgetting their story
“a bunch of these people being held as slaves drowned a horrible death” straight into a displate ad essentially mid sentence is definitely a choice
Had the same thought
Well yeah, it's designed to make you want to stick around until after the add
Or relate the corporate sponsor to something hideous 😅
Sponsored got to sponsor. At least your not watching mark felton talk about the holocaust and then go into ball shaving technology
Came here to comment the same, RIP script timing
I'm surprised Hollywood didn't make a film about this...unless they did?
They already casted Ryan gosling as one of the slaves
Blizzard made an older game about it, it's called starcraft.
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It’s stars Pedro Pascal and Zendaya. Ugh.
Cue the Vsauce theme
The timing of this video is crazy!
I have been homeless a long time but for the past 5 years I have enjoyed a bit of stability as I lived in a small shed type building I built myself. I have worked and during covid was invaluable.
And then comes the eviction notice.
The rug is pulled.
This story is the inspiration I needed.
Back to the drawing board!
💜💜 keep onkeeping on 💪
All this talk of 15 years got me thinking about how long I've been enjoying your videos! I don't know if I would have survived all this time stranded on an island, but I know I would have stuck a flag in it.
Absolutely insane! The strength of will those people had!
Thanks for remembering these brave people.
The island you get trapped on when the minnow gets capsized on just a 3 hour tour.
niiiice, Lil Buddy
No movie stars please
...A threeeee hour tooour....
The weather started getting rough... the tiny ship was tossed!
@@guytitanichow about The Professor or Maryanne?
Retiree on a fixed budget here! Been watching for years. Thank you !
Enjoy retirement, old timer.
You know it’s a good day when Thoughty2 posts!
Its actually an extra good day because Brewstew posted too!
Learned more in watching you then any teacher ever taught me. Usually on topics i didn't know to begin with. Wholeheartedly thank you.
Well, tbh this is entertainment... in school you are learning stuff for your future professional life.
@@soundscape26 That's the theory anyway.....Most people learn nothing about life while in school anymore.
I always learn something amazing about a subject that I had no idea about until I get my notification about a new Thoughty2 video. Thank you for educating me one video at a time.
I’m still one of these old guys that just have upon whatever RUclips plays but it’s nice to see that you’re back into their happy place because I hadn’t seen you in a while and it was very nice. Great job always blessings to you and yours.
Always a good day when thoughty2 posts a video. You know you’re in for a ride and a heck of a story every time. This one was especially good. What a story.
You're one the best story tellers.
Please don't get too crazy with titles/thumbnails man!
All love
I was about to correct you in that they weren't taken into slavery by a great power, but instead were slaves sold into further slavery, which happened to be to a great power... But then remembered this is the French, and had to look it up. Turns out, in Madagascar in particular, the French would often engage in slave raids, or partake in local conflicts to capture slaves.
French gonna French.
Good that you tell this remarkable story !! I appreciate it a LOT 👍
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱, TW.
Wonderful Video . Can't imagine the suffering those people went through . Thank you for the time and effort that you put in to create all of your Videos for us to ponder . I hope you're doing well and staying safe . 🎸
I've never heard this story before. What an amazing group of people. ❤thanks thoughty 2
This event has escaped my world knowledge. World History is such a diverse learning task. Thank you for making this video..
I love all your videos dude ! I enjoy and share all the time. Keep up the great work! You are appreciated more than you know.
The island can be viewed on maps. It now has a small airfield, and apparently a few buildings.
The shipwreck should be found nearby in the reef, artifacts removed, and a memorial placed.
i know i shouldnt care but at 8:35 on the newspaper the other writing includes "lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" which translates from latin to "the internet itself is a pain". thought you guys might like to know that
thats literally just the default string of text used as a placeholder, it was designed to mean nothing while being grammatically correct
@@3FourFour5 OMG THIS MAKES SM SENSE THANK YOU
You expect us to believe there was a Latin word for the internet!
Loren Ipsum ( look it up) is the default text that typesetters have been using since the 50s. It was popularized by advertisements for Letraset transfer sheets. It is thought to be a corruption of a Cicero passage from the 1st century.
Remember “ The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog”? Like that for long text and layout packages.
LI was introduced to the digital world in the mid-1980s, when Aldus employed it in graphic and word-processing templates for its desktop publishing program PageMaker. Pages and Microsoft Word, have since adopted Lorem ipsum, LaTeX and web content managers such as Joomla! and WordPress, and CSS libraries such as Semantic UI.
The graphic design world it is simply referred to as “Loren Ipsum”
Also, doesn’t really mean that. There is no Latin word for Internet. I think it’s an inside joke from the team behind Google translate.
Lorem is short for Delorem and the phrase loosely translates into “the pain of an average man”
Bravo to them. And thank you for presenting their story to me.
Thank you very much Mr. Thoughty2 for taking the time making this video. Sincerely Sid
Thank you so much for such a great video! These poor people deserve to be remembered... My heart goes out to them
Nice one Thoughty that was superb👍
Love your show and the style with which you present it!!
Thank you and God bless your mission!
Flipping heck, Thoughty!! The last time I watched one of your videos was over 9 years ago! You was smooth skinned, clean shaven and looking about 18. And look at you now, with over 5 million subs. We used to chat a lot back then! So pleased to see you doing so well. Great videos!
Love this guys content, not sure why I haven't seen you more in my feed, keep up the cracking work brother ❤😊
You can learn something new every day!
1 of My Top 5 favourite RUclipsrs, up there with Vsauce, Jon Solo, Simon Whistler with his like 20 channels and Matthew Santoro
Johnny Harris, why files, moon, and barely jake tran(he is a con artist but I like the videos tho)
I love Simon Whistler too and Lemino for these kinds of videos
Simon whistler would have to be the most annoying and greedy RUclipsr ever.
@@MAMethven have you seen Jake tran videos? Just one example, he makes a video about how something is lowering mens testosterone levels and then for his sponsored ad he tells you about his friend who is selling testosterone supplements. He presents a problem and then sells you a bs solution, usually by a 'friend'...i especially don't like him pushing one of his friends as some sort of guru. It's really bad. I like Simon, he's pretty honest about how he's doing it. But I only watch brain blaze anymore
@@KorintheCat yes and I stopped watching him because of things like what you mentioned. I like thoughty2 and a couple of others that I just can't think of at the moment.
A man of history, Science, educator and story teller all rolled into one! Brilliant, love watching, keep them coming. History is filled with all kinds of interesting facts. You obviously must do a lot of research work to dig out all these historical events, even the almost completely forgotten ones.
Thank you!
What a mind blowing story!!! thank you for bringing it to my attention :D I'm a little surprised that you're not running out of material after all this time to be honest
I put in a few hours to dig for more answers and it turns out there were 14 survivors in total. And that 18 of the people left on this island by the French did leave in another crafted boat a few years earlier. Noone knows if they made it and then there was one that left with like 6 people 15 months before they got saved off that place that did not make it for sure as there was a French guy on that one and had they made it we'd know. The fire turned out to not ha been burning all that time also, in the last expedition there to dig they found tools to make fire with. Also 1/3 of the surviving (off the ship) slaves died the first month because before the well was dug after one month the French did not share any water with the slaves and kept it guarded in their camp. 88 made it off the ship, slaves. 120 French. All of the French survived. About 30 slaves died of dehydration in days and few weeks directly after the wreck. At least 24 tried to leave none of which isco firmed to have made it. Only two has been found buried on the island yet but in the 1800s a sailor inspected the place and reported that there was a bunch of graves made that time since has erased so that pretty much takes care of the head count I guess. But still, what happened is not known in detail. The surviving women and child got freed and disappeared into the black community soon after their rescue with Noone knowing anything about them. The kid got adopted by the governor that sent the rescue ship in the end but it was more like a pet adoption than a child as he was lost... Later as a child, presumably when the he moved back to France he just left him behind. So Noone knows or could follow up on this story through the survivors. That's pretty much what is known. The French were not very keen on documenting this one might imagine. The slave trade in the Indian ocean was outlawed by all European nations since before this happened so the ship was an illegal slave transport done illegally by a company. And the reason most slaves died in the wreck was that their deck was not possible to open. It was not locked but nailed closed so all slaves was left behind by the French who all survived. 72 slaves died in the wreck, 88 made it out when the ship got torn in half the second day. They got no help to the island though so most of those who died did so because they were taken from a mountain area far from the ocean so none of them could swim. The 80m from the ship to the island for them was enough for most of the 72 that died the first 24 hours to die when trying to get to dry land without help. 2 got cut in half as the ship after it was torn in half slammed back together with everywave making the wreck into a bit of a hazard. A few drowned early on but most of the slave deck was above water they just could not get out. And the French only tried to get them out for a very short time before they left them. Later when the ship was empty they went back to it though for supplies. So yeah, we don't know a lot because it was an illegal transport of slaves by the French that acted a LOT worse than it sounded like in this video. And it was not far to go to resque them for the French. A mere 2-3 days sail. But they still didn't go those 2-3 days to get them for 15 years. So, since all survivors ended up on French colonial territory as much information about the events as possible got buried. The women were interviewed the only info from their stories about luge on the island that the French made public was that 18 people built a boat and tried to make it off the island many years before the rescue. Of course they were asked about a lot as 3 of the women lived in the governor estate for quite some time after their rescue and it is impossible this was not something people asked them about a lot. Nothing made it out of there though. Which can only be because of that information painting the French in a horrible light. 15 years! With 2-3 days to go there and save them, sure the actions of the sailors was bad but those 15 years was only because the governor did not want to tie up a ship for a hole week when he could use it to make profitable transports of goods instead. Noone was charged with illegal trade and transport of the slaves even after. Nor was the company. The French stayed on the island for 2 months with zero deaths. When the well was finished they still had water left from the ship, under guard in a tent in the white camp. That alone cost 30 slaves their lives. 15 years! 2-3 days away without getting rescued...
Always Love Your Videos, They are like story time for me haha
Thank you for the high quality and effort you put into each one
Thanks for spending time doing research and making these videos.
This is probably pretty weird and random but at least once a week I spend an hour on google maps looking across the globe at random isolated island/atolls then trying to find pics of them on the internet
Pretty insulting that the Malagasys survived on the island for 15 years and then the island is named after the guy who only at the end came to rescue them. I think it should have been named after the survivors not a guy who only after 15 years agreed to help.
Same
It would have to have 7 names.
I was thinking the same thing.
It’s a French thing.
I thought exactly the same thing. I think they should've named the island after whatever name the surviving women named the baby.
Thought it was going to be about Epstein for a minute
Great work Bud 😊. Thanks
Awesome story. Hopefully there will be a follow-up with details of how the survivors lasted so long on such a barren land.
About that 15 yo fire: No. On an island with relatively frequent storms and rainfall, there is no way that fire could have burned continuously for 15 years. The fire site may have been the same for 15 years, but it obviously had to be relit frequently.
Why? Were you there? 😀
@@mornmorn Go and make a bonfire outside. Now for 15 years, make sure the fire doesn't go out. How you negotiate that with wind, rain, tornadoes, hurricanes on an island that's almost completely flat, I wonder... 😀
@@TinmanHUI already did. For 15 years 🤣 Need I say more?
@@mornmorn Yeah, and I'm Santa's 7th child.😆
I do wish Thoughty would figure out the art of creating a sensible segway into promotional blurb for a sponsor - often having no association with the theme of the video - or put these at the start or end. As it is, they break off the narration just as it gets interesting. That's always a downthumb for me.
I'm definitely not in a good enough place financially to support you on Patreon right now. So thank you for the video. It earned my like and comment.
Top work as usual @thoughty2. Thank you for all the work that you do.
They were probably healthier than 90% of modern Americans.
Here before the title changes
You always have the best stories and are a great story teller! Thanks again!
So enjoyable, thank you!
Different title already? Bruh
here during the first thumbnail!
Yeah I really don't get why it gets changed like daily for 3-4 days straight, and the title too. And this is not the only channel which does it.
to get those who already watched the vid to click it again or to reach different types of yt viewers ig
@@CerberusHD In marketing it's a sort of A-B testing. For statistics and seeing what does better. Veritassium has a good video about this.
@@error3624 If you already watched the video you won't watch it again I'm sure. This is a feature that RUclipsrs have in which they can upload several thumbnails until sticking with the one that performed better.
@@soundscape26 but you’ll click it more likely. by clicking it you give the vid engagement.
Thank you, for all your Videos.
I love to watch them.
Hey man this was a good one!!!! Thanks for the research and for sharing!!
At least Gilligan wasn't on that island to mess things up further.
What is that AI thumbnail?
The content is genuine, but that thumbnail...
Thank you. I love your stories. ❤
Once again a amazing story, thank you man !
Almost never been this early to a video. 😂
i love how optimistic these illustrations, slaves and frenchmen working together as team xD .. we all now who dig the whole and who cary the stuff around
It's sad when people assume that everyone were douchebags during that time.
Yet no-one is talking about those who did the most human trading in Northern Africa for over 1000 years.
I tell you this much, it wasn't white people, that's for sure.
@@Schmorgus you would call someone who bump you on the street and not apologize douchebag, or cut you in traffic. You dont call people who trade or own slaves douchebag. i probably would own slaves if i live in the past, i am not full of ethics anyway, however for a person to say douchebag for slavetraders in 2024 is some other kind of achivement. but looking at your profile picture i can say you are obsessed with these kind of things. almost everone did those horrible things, and who ever had the most power and resources, made most harm. and guess who was the most powerfull, yep europe, and your ancestors did the most harm. period
Oh grow up 🤦🏻♂️
@@Schmorgus
You’re discussing the Umayyad Caliphate.
The greatest intro on RUclips “Hey thoughty2 here”
A fascinating history that shows the "slaves" had more knowledge and warewithal than the "masters". Excellent work Thoughty2! Thanks!
I mean, your heart is in the right place but the “masters” built a boat and spent those 15 years back home In France while the slaves lived stranded on an island dying off one at a time. You did hear the story right? Also do you know how quotation marks work… they were in fact slaves.
@@joeyalen275 They weren't allowed to build a boat with the finest salvage because the "masters" took it all for themselves and left. But the "slaves" thrived anyway where the " masters" would have resorted to cannibalism. The quotation marks are there because they weren't actual slaves but people stolen illegally and not yet sold or indentured. "Masters" were anything but. DID YOU WATCH THE EPISODE?
@@davidlancaster8152 just because YOU don't think they were Masters, doesnt mean they were not. Cry harder.
@@StevenHawkingsSpitrag they were nothing but thieves. They were falsely entitled white people who thought they were superior because their paranoid white ancestors told them so, exactly like yourself.
Your unjustified protest proves it. Would you like a Kleenex?
@@davidlancaster8152They were enslaved already by rival tribes in Madagascar and sold to the French. How do you think they got the men? They would have died of diseases long before finding a settlement to enslave. Also, they likely did resort to some cannibalism. Why do you think only women survived? If they werent wating the bodies they would need a man to dig the graves.
Love the vids🤌🏼🤌🏼
Thank you for the work you do it's been an educational 6 years
Thank you for the amazing upload 😊
Tromelin Island sounds like an island of bards. Sand Island is much better.
Great story told by a great storyteller. Life doesn't get any better than Thoughty2🙏
Another incredible video Thoughty! Thank you for all that you do, your subscribers are truly appreciative!
A small critique though, the AI thumbnails are a bit excessive. And they detract from the uniqueness and authenticism of your channel. You always illustrate your videos with the best animations. I think it would be interesting if your thumbnails fit a similar aesthetic to the art within the videos! Nevertheless, love your content!
I was debating if this was a scam channel posing as thoughty2 because of the ai pictures?? I almost blocked it but decided to give the video a chance if this was the real channel.... and to my shock, it was.
Here before the assbots!
Great story. Thank you for making folks aware of this history. 😊
Very interesting and very entertaining, keep up the good work 👊👍
A.I. image...
Time to retiree IA thumbnails. It feels so outdated to use these.
Totally agree. I'm starting to block AI channels and those that rely on it. At least his voice is real.
Huh? Lol
Can’t wait for artists to go bankrupt due to the superior nature of AI artworks. in like a year or two
I was just going to comment the same things it’s so annoying
Time to hire English in your sentences
Another great video! Thanks!
Thank you this was such an awesome part of history that I did not know about.
The AI thumbnails are so bad. Please go back to the old style, or literally anything else.
You pay attention to thumbnails? Have you considered its probably 100x quicker for a content creator to make?
You click for thumbnails, i click for content.
Agreed100%
Blah blah blah blah it makes no difference to the content and it’s almost identical to what he already did. Get real problems.
@@benjaminstevens4468 that’s some shallow surface level shit right there. It has nothing to do with the content and when he didn’t use AI he use the same exact style of thumbnails.
I haven't been complaining about the AI thumbnails but this one's so bad I feel like I have to say something
Thank you, great video!
Thank you sweetheart...
Another interesting and well researched and presented video.....❤
PLEASE stop with the AI thumbnails
Yeah I hate them too
Plese stop whining.
@@onlychangeiscertainstfu these thumbnails are shit
@@onlychangeiscertain
in my opinion the AI thumbnails on any video just shows the lack of effort the creator may use in their video. its judging a book by its cover, but I am very able to whine about what I don't like, and (as you have shown) so are you. have a good day!
i couldn’t imagine being this bothered 💀💀
Stop the ai thumbnails pleaseee
Why does it matter? Watch and enjoy the video as normal.
I do really like this channel...and the story telling is beatytiful. :)
Been a while since I tuned, good to see popyey still making content for us.... Great videos I must say
Shitty AI thumbnail = downvote no matter how good the video is
1 view in 43 seconds? Bro fell off
Can we stop this, it’s annoying
This is more cringe than “first” comments!
You are an amazing storyteller. Keep up the good work. Stay blessed you all.....
Thank You Thoughty for the Unknown History! Love your channel, God Bless 🙏🙏🏽🙏🏿✝️
From Tennessee US
Thanks for the video
42, there's an idea, of you covering some WWII stories. Namely, reminder of digging wells... Poles did it in 1944, after Warsaw Uprising. 2000 Varsovians remained in Old Town and surroundings , with all round litteral inferno, burning all buildings to the ground, some 40 men, women and children hiding in the building basement, digging for water for few weeks as deep as over 20 meters, scavenging for food at night, fighting german soldiers, with inventive hidden entrance clutching their way to be undetected.