I love my Pleasure Way. Yes $20,000 more. I took that different from my IRA. Didn't look back. I bought the quality of Materials and craftsmanship . Great video guys.
I like the features of the Elko and you can get it on the much more reliable Transit chassis. I was hoping the new 4 cylinder from Mercedes would be more reliable but so far that does not appear to be so. The quality of the Pleasureway portion of their rig would win me over if it was on say the Transit chassis.
I really like the Pleasure Way the best. I like having a black tank instead of a cassette toilet & I like having the TV in the bedroom area. I just wish it was in the Transit chassis.
I love that pleasure way. Quality is top notch. Love that dry bath! Like the porcelain toilet too. Black tank need to find dump station. But overall love it!
Appreciate your frequent tours. Very helpful. Glad to see you commenting on the Pleasure Way quality. You missed something though: PW is the only manufacturer that stands behind their products the way they do: 5 YEAR WARRANTY!
My Pleasureway is so well built! I have modified quite a few things for full time living. For over 3 years I put the bed down and up every night with no issues! The front bath layout felt too constricting to me, so I changed it to a hidden shower and composting toilet.
Good informative video! Just as a correction, the Leisure Travel Vans Twin Bed and Rear Lounge models DO fit your definition of B+, as neither floor plan has a slideout (although the other floor plans do). We have the Unity Twin Bed model (yes, waited 18+ months for it to be built), and it was worth every minute of anticipation, it's GREAT!
You really can’t beat the quality of a Pleasureway. However some prefer the sportier / off-road rvs like the Ekko. Pleasureway takes great pride in how they build their B vans for sure. No cutting corners. Also for those considering one. Their after sales support is amazing. You get the same people on the phone all the time that actually know their rigs well. They don’t give you any run around and helping you is always their priority. So glad to see a lot more manufacturers making these B+ now.
You're showing your favourite van again. Do you think they can tell how much you love that van, considering how much time you give it compared to all the other vans. 😂❤
I was wondering what location was this review done. There is such a good selection of RV’s and I am in the market for one. I love the honesty in your reviews. This helps me tremendously ❤
Another great review video! The Pleasure Way was really nice! The dry bath was quite beautiful. I’m not so sure it’s ready for the off road mods Bob has in mind, haha. 😉
They are so big! But I liked the third one best because it was so open on the inside. And I really liked the shower. I thought you guys would pick this one. When Hillary said she'd keep the beds at twin size, visions of "Lucy & Ricky Ricardo" sleeping in separate beds flashed in my head. You have to be old to remember that. 🤣
Oh loving the Condor. It's simple but very functional. My favorite feature is the bathroom. It's spacious and it has a window that opens! I can't understand why any Bs or B plus' have immovable sinks, totally unnecessary. I would rather have the space to shower. There are a lot of windows, entrance door and back window. Great for a cross breeze. Price point is a big plus too and the tv looks bigger than the average. Thank you for the review. Think I found my next rig, currently have a Sprinter Thor (eew) 19P 😂.
BtW you can get the Jayco Granite Ridge and Entegra Condor with a pop top also which is nice if you’re comparing it to the WB Ekko. The pivoting bath in the Ekko is great.
Great job Vancaskeys! Really like the Pleasureway. Last weekend the wife and I went to RV show in Tucson, checked out B’s and C’s. My beautiful wife says NO! All factors involved our course will be to go with a teardrop(Vistabule or TC) it just fits our needs and it’ll fit in our garage. Keep on rolling!
The Pleasure Way: I would remove the sofa and rework the back to be a bed with garage underneath. They don't seem to make a version like that. Of course, CCC might become more of a problem....
If you ever get the chance, review the Itasca Viva 23L or Winnebago Trend 23L (B+)..... No longer made but still around and honestly, probably should be brought back?
The Pleasure Way easily wins this comparison. Sure, it's more expensive, but you get what you pay for. Canadian built RVs tend to be FAR better quality than those made in Indiana. PW has the best build quality out of all the mainstream brands and I love the open interior and large bathroom. My only complaints are that I don't think it has double pane windows, fresh water tank is too small, and it needs generator delete/larger battery option. I do prefer a cassette toilet over a black tank for the ease and convenience of dumping, but that's not necessarily a deal breaker. The Ekko is overpriced with sub-par build quality...hard pass on that one.
Pleasure Way has more lithium (600 amp hours) and a 3kw inverter. You can actually run the AC directly off the inverter (I.e., without either the gender or shore power). For us, the cassette toilet is a non-starter. Also don’t like the fridge - MUCH larger in the PW Plateau TS.
just say NO to single door fridges!(tired of defrosting) my fav B+ is aeonRV- they use a unique construction style that certainly seems tighter/more waterproof/bring it to the artic. More off-road than any of these pavement princesses. Interesting tech like using waste engine heat to heat the water tank.
I agree with your choice here. However, I have avoided considering Mercedes due to occasional complaints about high routine service costs. Do you know anything about that? The comment here about Condor complaints should be heeded for sure. The subject problems were everywhere, including stuff not working, not connected or falling apart and excruciatingly slow accommodation for repair. Also, paid optional equipment never received though promised. Months waiting without the paid-for unit being available for use. Sounds like a nightmare.
In a rare moment of honesty, one of the salesman at that show admitted, he was going to trade his Mercedes sprinter B+ for a Ford Transit. He ran into a problem in Wyoming and could not find anyone nearby to service his Mercedes. Said he did not want that to happen again, so he was making the switch.
I keep thinking you guys are going to come away with a new RV and you don't. One of these days you will and I will be so shocked I will probably fall out of my seat. 🤣 Keep up the awesome videos, I look forward to you guys every week.
Thanks for all the GREAT videos. I think y'all are my favorite 🎉 Partly because you both are tall and also because of the very good informative content.😊 PS. Thanks for your ahnesty about Mr. Lemmon!
I have a friend with a Mercedes sprinter work van. All repairs cost a fortune. He would never get another sprinter. Also, the service technician who came to warranty repair my house windows told me the fleet of Sprinters are always breaking down in the middle of nowhere and he would never buy a sprinter!
@6:01 just remove that table and toss it in the garage or basement. That area will be great open to lounge on or spin the seats around and have your legs on that lounger
Thx for quick response. Saw your review of critter n going to jersey in a wk to pick one up after many yrs of deciding. Love u guys n your channel n content!! 💓 Bless your family. I'll never stop watching! So much education to gain here n yall adorable🥰can't wait to see what comes after mister Lemon. Travelsafely!! Thx again.
For the money, these seem better priced than vans. Supply & demand...? And didnt the last one have slide outs? 3rd def my favorite. Thanks for the video!
It is interesting but here in Canada when traveling in remote areas, Mercedes service is really a problem. There is Ford dealers everywhere. For example in Magdelene Islands there is no Mercedes dealer but they have Ford. This is the reason why I won't buy a Sprinter based rv.
Hello guys I like your videos, very informative. I have a question how many miles do you travel in a year and how much was your cost of gas for the year. Is insurance expensive? Do you have a video explaining the switches for generator and what it runs. A video explaining when running on batteries only how long and what it can operate? Can I use a Ecoflo Delta Pro Ultra back up battery unit? Thanks Miguel from Cape Coral Fl.
At this time I'd avoid the Condor. It's known for a water leak between the chassis and coach. Generally just poor build quality in general. Several lawsuits.
When I had my Airstream Interstate at the MB dealership they let me take a new Sprinter for a few weeks. The 4 cylinder diesel would spin the rear wheels when you'd step on it.
So B+'s are built just like a C, but with a B price! Of the ones you looked at, my favorite would be the Pleasureway. My question is... What CHASSIS would you prefer, all things equal?
As someone researching B's and B+'s, i find these videos extremely informative. Keep up the goos work!!
I appreciate that!
I love my Pleasure Way. Yes $20,000 more. I took that different from my IRA.
Didn't look back. I bought the quality of Materials and craftsmanship . Great video guys.
I would take a Pleasureway over a Leisure any day of the week. The built quality and materials are far superior
I like the features of the Elko and you can get it on the much more reliable Transit chassis. I was hoping the new 4 cylinder from Mercedes would be more reliable but so far that does not appear to be so. The quality of the Pleasureway portion of their rig would win me over if it was on say the Transit chassis.
I really like the Pleasure Way the best. I like having a black tank instead of a cassette toilet & I like having the TV in the bedroom area. I just wish it was in the Transit chassis.
I love that pleasure way. Quality is top notch. Love that dry bath! Like the porcelain toilet too. Black tank need to find dump station. But overall love it!
Appreciate your frequent tours. Very helpful. Glad to see you commenting on the Pleasure Way quality. You missed something though: PW is the only manufacturer that stands behind their products the way they do: 5 YEAR WARRANTY!
Pleasure way makes great quality rigs - good replacement choice for mr lemon 😊
They really do. ❤️
My Pleasureway is so well built! I have modified quite a few things for full time living. For over 3 years I put the bed down and up every night with no issues!
The front bath layout felt too constricting to me, so I changed it to a hidden shower and composting toilet.
@@pianogal853mine too! 2021.5 Ontour 2.2 on Ford Transit chassis . Hard to beat
Good informative video! Just as a correction, the Leisure Travel Vans Twin Bed and Rear Lounge models DO fit your definition of B+, as neither floor plan has a slideout (although the other floor plans do). We have the Unity Twin Bed model (yes, waited 18+ months for it to be built), and it was worth every minute of anticipation, it's GREAT!
You are absolutely correct. That is Bobs favorite one but they didn’t have that model at the show. Thanks! So happy you love it!
I'm curious why you like the SprEkko over the Pleasureway?
Thanks for sharing!!! Would you happen to have a vid covering the cost of insurance on one of those, by chance?!?!
You really can’t beat the quality of a Pleasureway. However some prefer the sportier / off-road rvs like the Ekko. Pleasureway takes great pride in how they build their B vans for sure. No cutting corners. Also for those considering one. Their after sales support is amazing. You get the same people on the phone all the time that actually know their rigs well. They don’t give you any run around and helping you is always their priority. So glad to see a lot more manufacturers making these B+ now.
Pleasureway wins in the fit and finish and overall quality category but the EKKO is winter capable with a huge heated cargo bay that can hold 2 bikes
You're showing your favourite van again. Do you think they can tell how much you love that van, considering how much time you give it compared to all the other vans. 😂❤
At the end of the day. The best feature about the pleasure way is that it’s not made in Elkhart Indiana. They’re made in Saskatchewan Canada!
I was wondering what location was this review done. There is such a good selection of RV’s and I am in the market for one. I love the honesty in your reviews. This helps me tremendously ❤
Phoenix AZ La Mesa 😃
We're looking at a used Leisure with twins and no slide. Fingers crossed.
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Pleasure way wins for sure. Would of like to have seen an Airstream 😀
Another labor of love you guys. Thanks for taking us along!!! Pleasure Way was a cool new layout for sure. 🙏👍🏼❤️
Another great review video! The Pleasure Way was really nice! The dry bath was quite beautiful. I’m not so sure it’s ready for the off road mods Bob has in mind, haha. 😉
Hahahaha! Such a great point!
My choice ~ either the Leisure Travel Van Wonder Murphy bed or the Chinook on the Ford.
They are so big! But I liked the third one best because it was so open on the inside. And I really liked the shower. I thought you guys would pick this one. When Hillary said she'd keep the beds at twin size, visions of "Lucy & Ricky Ricardo" sleeping in separate beds flashed in my head. You have to be old to remember that. 🤣
Oh loving the Condor. It's simple but very functional. My favorite feature is the bathroom. It's spacious and it has a window that opens! I can't understand why any Bs or B plus' have immovable sinks, totally unnecessary. I would rather have the space to shower. There are a lot of windows, entrance door and back window. Great for a cross breeze. Price point is a big plus too and the tv looks bigger than the average. Thank you for the review. Think I found my next rig, currently have a Sprinter Thor (eew) 19P 😂.
Thanks for the thorough reviews! Now I want a B + lifted AWD Ford.
Good choice!
My favorite was prob the Pleasureway. And I do enjoy this type of video.👍🏻😁
Hi Bob and Hillary🤗
I really liked the pleasure way👍
Yes ..good quality!
Excellent video you guys ..
Thank you 😁❤️
BtW you can get the Jayco Granite Ridge and Entegra Condor with a pop top also which is nice if you’re comparing it to the WB Ekko. The pivoting bath in the Ekko is great.
Great job Vancaskeys! Really like the Pleasureway. Last weekend the wife and I went to RV show in Tucson, checked out B’s and C’s. My beautiful wife says NO! All factors involved our course will be to go with a teardrop(Vistabule or TC) it just fits our needs and it’ll fit in our garage. Keep on rolling!
The Pleasure Way: I would remove the sofa and rework the back to be a bed with garage underneath. They don't seem to make a version like that. Of course, CCC might become more of a problem....
If you ever get the chance, review the Itasca Viva 23L or Winnebago Trend 23L (B+)..... No longer made but still around and honestly, probably should be brought back?
Ok! We would love too!
I liked the Pleasure Way. It seemed much roomier.
The Pleasure Way easily wins this comparison. Sure, it's more expensive, but you get what you pay for. Canadian built RVs tend to be FAR better quality than those made in Indiana. PW has the best build quality out of all the mainstream brands and I love the open interior and large bathroom. My only complaints are that I don't think it has double pane windows, fresh water tank is too small, and it needs generator delete/larger battery option. I do prefer a cassette toilet over a black tank for the ease and convenience of dumping, but that's not necessarily a deal breaker.
The Ekko is overpriced with sub-par build quality...hard pass on that one.
The EKKO has the Froli bed system - keeps good airflow underneath the mattresses. :)
Thanks again guys. You both are very good at explaining stuff.
Pleasure Way has more lithium (600 amp hours) and a 3kw inverter. You can actually run the AC directly off the inverter (I.e., without either the gender or shore power). For us, the cassette toilet is a non-starter. Also don’t like the fridge - MUCH larger in the PW Plateau TS.
I wish I had the space to park a class B. Great video!
Thanks! 😊
You know you looked at the used one after the camera was off. 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha! 🤫 🤫🤫
Great choice. I agree. Pleasure Way 2nd choice
Thanks Barbara!
I follow you closely, tks for your reviews, very helpful as getting ready to purchase a new van for part time use.
Glad to help! How exciting!
just say NO to single door fridges!(tired of defrosting)
my fav B+ is aeonRV- they use a unique construction style that certainly seems tighter/more waterproof/bring it to the artic. More off-road than any of these pavement princesses. Interesting tech like using waste engine heat to heat the water tank.
Unfortunately the Aeon also have the strangest floor plan having you enter the coach walking through the bathroom.
@@John-ve6ms agreed! unusual layout fer sure.
But the construction tech is so much better than conventional it's worth a look.
The pleasure way was awesome You need to buy this one
I agree with your choice here. However, I have avoided considering Mercedes due to occasional complaints about high routine service costs. Do you know anything about that?
The comment here about Condor complaints should be heeded for sure. The subject problems were everywhere, including stuff not working, not connected or falling apart and excruciatingly slow accommodation for repair. Also, paid optional equipment never received though promised. Months waiting without the paid-for unit being available for use. Sounds like a nightmare.
In a rare moment of honesty, one of the salesman at that show admitted, he was going to trade his Mercedes sprinter B+ for a Ford Transit. He ran into a problem in Wyoming and could not find anyone nearby to service his Mercedes. Said he did not want that to happen again, so he was making the switch.
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Scheduled maintenance on my Transit costs me $90 at Ford dealer.
For 50 K less though the coachman 20xg is still my go to
I keep thinking you guys are going to come away with a new RV and you don't. One of these days you will and I will be so shocked I will probably fall out of my seat. 🤣 Keep up the awesome videos, I look forward to you guys every week.
Looking for a B Plus with no slides. Hard to find - at least at this particular show.
Thanks for all the GREAT videos. I think y'all are my favorite 🎉 Partly because you both are tall and also because of the very good informative content.😊
PS. Thanks for your ahnesty about Mr. Lemmon!
I have a friend with a Mercedes sprinter work van. All repairs cost a fortune. He would never get another sprinter.
Also, the service technician who came to warranty repair my house windows told me the fleet of Sprinters are always breaking down in the middle of nowhere and he would never buy a sprinter!
@6:01 just remove that table and toss it in the garage or basement. That area will be great open to lounge on or spin the seats around and have your legs on that lounger
Wondering why you prefer this over the crosstrail 20 extreme.
Great question. We only were picking between the ones we saw at this show.
Thx for quick response. Saw your review of critter n going to jersey in a wk to pick one up after many yrs of deciding. Love u guys n your channel n content!! 💓 Bless your family. I'll never stop watching! So much education to gain here n yall adorable🥰can't wait to see what comes after mister Lemon. Travelsafely!! Thx again.
@@krislynch7454 congratulations!!!! We are so excited for you!!! It’s an amazing RV! We really loved it! And it’s priced very well. Happy travels! 😊❤️
Thanks for the videos .Enjoyed your presentations.
I would like the Transit ecko.
Great overview 🎉well done
Thank you! 😊
For the money, these seem better priced than vans. Supply & demand...? And didnt the last one have slide outs? 3rd def my favorite. Thanks for the video!
Can you take out the induction top to use outside ?
It is interesting but here in Canada when traveling in remote areas, Mercedes service is really a problem. There is Ford dealers everywhere. For example in Magdelene Islands there is no Mercedes dealer but they have Ford. This is the reason why I won't buy a Sprinter based rv.
Hello guys I like your videos, very informative. I have a question how many miles do you travel in a year and how much was your cost of gas for the year. Is insurance expensive? Do you have a video explaining the switches for generator and what it runs. A video explaining when running on batteries only how long and what it can operate? Can I use a Ecoflo Delta Pro Ultra back up battery unit?
Thanks Miguel from Cape Coral Fl.
Hi thank you again great show as always from Virginia God bless
Is there a reason you don't tow a cargo trailer on bigger trips to take more stuff and have more room? Have you considered it?
At this time I'd avoid the Condor. It's known for a water leak between the chassis and coach. Generally just poor build quality in general. Several lawsuits.
Oh really? We had no idea.
@@Vancaskeys Yeah Liz Amazings channel just had an episode on it.
When I had my Airstream Interstate at the MB dealership they let me take a new Sprinter for a few weeks. The 4 cylinder diesel would spin the rear wheels when you'd step on it.
Have you looked at the Coachmen Cross Trail?
So B+'s are built just like a C, but with a B price! Of the ones you looked at, my favorite would be the Pleasureway. My question is... What CHASSIS would you prefer, all things equal?
Hope the Mercedes ekko has a great drivetrain warranty because that 4 cylinder is going to fail hard
Where is the induction P
Burner ?
Check the difference in cargo carrying capacity
Good show!
It's cool. But I think Thor bought Jayco. I know some people that haven't had problems with Thor but I have to admit I'm leary of it now. Dangit!
I’m telling ya, my next C will have twin beds
Does Bob prefer a Sprekko or a Storyteller?
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Boring, boring, boring, storage etc etc etc loving ect etc etc bla bla bla...etc etc etc
Great choice in the SprEKKO! Gorgeous!
I’ll take the pleasure way please 😄