We didn’t have to compare ourselves to anybody but movie stars. And we had to watch movies or buy magazines to look at them. No one got boob jobs or other Plastic surgery as a norm, MEN AND WOMEN WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE BODY HAIR. The world is broken.
All of this is sad as hell. I know no guys are likely to read this but: I'm happily married to a balding 5'6" man who is smart and kind and I think he's gorgeous. It's not about what other sad isolated men tell you, it's about who you are and how you relate to others, women, and men, and children, that makes you a person who's good to be around and frankly loveable.
No offense but you being happily married or married to a balding guy is not a unicorn, women have been thought to look at personality over looks ,so it's more common to see a beautiful woman next to a man that's not physically attractive,
Not offense,but you being happily married or being married to a balding guy is not a unicorn,women have been thought to prioritize personality over looks when it comes to men,while being told to look physically good for men ,so what you are doing is the norm not surprising
@@purplelove3666 Yet somehow these poor young men end up convinced that they have to hurt themselves so badly physically, while not prioritizing their mental health and personality! It's a real problem of messaging.
Some might turn even that toxic. As Caitlin mentions the idea behind many of these things isn't bad but how it's executed, ouch. And I'm afraid that some take that seriously 😲 E.g. the guy who didn't eat for one or two days. Bro, your body is flashing the "low battery" warning light! Get some fuel!
Loving that Catlin is bringing up the other side of this issue! Its so easy to think of body issues as being a female only problem the more we talk about this the easier it will be to center self-acceptance and non-judgement! (Also congrats on 70k) 🎉
As someone who finished their first year of psychology and sociology, I do think mental health issues regarding the body and social media are a genuine concern. It's why I uninstalled all social media like tiktok and instagram, because of the rotting of my perception of what's real and what's not. It's made me 'wake up' about the reality of my appearance. At first, it was hard because I thought I was getting ugly lol but it was actually because I was no longer enhancing my photos and using filters all the time. I had to get used to seeing my ACTUAL self which isn't necessarily ugly but isn't a fake version of myself. I'm starting to see how pretty I actually am, so I probably won't engage with instagram or tiktok again.
@@CaitlinPawlowski mewing actually works lol I've always have a bad underbite and it massively improves your teeth alignment and double chin. I found out about it before 'looksmaxing' became a thing, it originates from a real dentist. The results in the tiktok videos are hugely obviously overstated, but for mouth posture its very useful. Just finished the vid and wowww, i didnt know how deep the rabbit hole went
@@Llkoliigenerally I think mewing was started by a dentist to build good habits to prevent mouth breathing, which can lead to sleep problems and sinus/breathing issues.
Great vid! I'm a man and think a big issue is as a man we're shamed for talking about our insecurities due to largely patriarchal gender norms. As someone who is also in their early 30s I was deeply insecure, skinny, average heighted guy throughout my teens and early 20s. Never really had luck with girls until I was like in my mid 20s so I just carried on. I always say if I had access as a teenager to these communities it would've easily radicalized me, so I'm glad I grew up in a time where these communities didn't really exist or were readily accessible. Now that I'm 30, it's hard to tell a other younger men that things get better, when they feel constantly rejected and can't talk about it other than in a toxic echo chamber. My life is pretty great now with a loving partner who I find beautiful, good job, etc, it just took longer to get there.
@sighswoons with that thumbnail there's no way you are man. Real men aren't as sensitive and have thicker skin and we don't let social get to us like women do.
Requirements has shot up, regular / invisible men try to meet it to improve their chance on dating market, that's it bro, don't overthink or sugarcoat through political standpoint.
"patriarchal gender norms", "toxic echo chamber"...100% this commenter is a female sociology major, probably a sophomore. I predict she'll finally grow out of the marxist programming by 2040
Thank you for this video!! As a mama of a almost teen boy.....it is heartbreaking to hear some of these "trends"! Thank you for bringing these to light and making others aware!
I have a couple of friends who are so gorgeous, men and women still watch them walk down the street (alone or together) even in their 60s. What they told their kids (son and daughter) when he was concerned about their looks. You don't need to be the person who values you for how you improve the scenery. You need the person who values you for how your presence improves their life.
Meh, people predominantly choose both short-term and long-term partners on the basis of looks, so it's only natural that you should obsess with how you look, because it's predominantly this quality that people are going to evaluate you on when deciding if they want to be your partner.
I am absolutely shocked I never knew anything about this. As a mother of a young son I am just terrified of what's to come in the future. When are all of us men and women going to just draw the line and be happy and proud that we are all unique and that is what makes us all beautiful ❤
Stop copemaxxing you have to allow your son to invest everything into looksmaxxing or else he will be miserable. Women in this generation only care about your physical appearance. They won’t give you the time of day if you are unattractive. Spare your son the suffering of being average or below which was me for most of my high school and middle school years. Never getting female attention until recently and I’m 18 but it’s too late I’ll never have the experience of being a guy that girls like in high school or having a prom date or first kiss at homecoming.
@@mariadaly4673 yeah that’s what they “should” do but nobody does what they should do in this world. The world will never conform to people’s individual needs the person has to adapt to the world or they won’t succeed. Either you look good and have success with women and positive affirmations in your social circle or you see a sub 5 who will never have romantic interactions and have to rot inside their basement for their whole life if they don’t hardmaxx
A man's perspective: none of this would be happening if any of these men were able to score a date. I repeat, this would literally end overnight if these men were selected for dating relationships. Due to iphones, social media, and online dating (2008), and their influence on society - 40% of men aged 18-30 are now virginal in the west. You read that correctly, almost half of all young men in the west have never had even 1 encounter. Whereas women in that age group are at around 8%. The reason is because of women's selectivity on dating apps. Only the best men get chosen. The top 60% of women match with the top 10% of men on dating apps. When a man cannot get a date, he starts to question himself and the world around him. Looks maxing is the only answer.
@@mrmoe110 and if we say the most likely method of success, people will critize it because it does not consider in acope the many exceptions to the rule. Thing is, most times there is no inherent solution.
Just a common sense observation on the 15 yo starvemaxxing. He is growing. How is he supposed to heightmaxx if he isn’t giving himself the right amount of calories and nutrients? I mean starving yourself will stunt your growth. Especially at that age. Ok I felt stupid using those words lol
I missed this video because I was travelling but omg can’t wait to watch this. As a guy I’m always getting targeted with these ads and then I went down into a rabbit hole of how crazy this is!!
Thank you for covering this topic, Caitlin! This isn't talked about enough. I told my husband these kinds of things weren't reality. Brendan Fraser and Hugh Jackman blacked out during filming due to dehydration six packs. Tom Holland went through micro electric shocks to get his abs looking a certain way. It's barbaric what men are put through for the "look" and I as a woman hate it. It's abuse plain and simple.
Looksmaxxing is not only for men, it's for all people, men and women, you can call it glow up or self imrpove or anything you like, in the end it's the way to be the best version of yourself, lookmaxx was considered somthing only for men because everyone who talks about it are men, the reason is due to the difficulty of attracting a hot girls, while women have it easier, because men will fvck anything, so please women, have a certain awareness when talking about a topic
The thing about height is it’s not a dealbreaker but you’ll still be informed that taller is better somehow. I’m 5’8”. The girl I recently dated, who actually approached me first, told me after a couple months of seeing each other that when she was younger she would’ve never even noticed a guy my height. So even if you “get the girl” you still feel that she’d actually prefer someone taller.
Great video! Thank you! You've done an incredibly deep and thorough research on looksmaxxing. I've never heard of it before, but I swear it appears terrible and horrifying. God save our men!
It's weird how people will refuse to go to a doctor or a therapist, and get help through a safer and more regulated channel. But will drop hundreds and thousands on these unregulated stuff like peptides and supplements of do risky things like bone smashing. The amount of blind faith in these strangers online that perpetuate these insecurities is wild.
@tylersdadx okay but doctors go through extensive schooling, clinicals and residence, plus they adhere to a board where they can loose their license and be sued for medical malpractice. These people aren't held to that same level of standard and scrutiny. It's therefore riskier and more costly down the road. EVERYTHING in life carries risk, so to say, "oh but this also has risk" is not fully valid as a reason. Therapy also isn't as expensive as people claim depending on different factors. But if you can afford to do these costly things that can be even more expensive upfront and down the road. You can get multiple sessions with a therapist. Besides, at least for me, my therapist is the same price as seeing my docto.
A lot parents aren’t doing their jobs at home, which is a good starting point to counteract these unhealthy behavior tendencies the youth are partaking
You don't need good personality when you have a good face. Haven't you heard of Ted Bundy, Charles Sobhraj, Richard Ramirez?? Also Jeremy Meeks. Try searching them and read about them. I used to think just what you said but when I read about them I realised looks>personality. That was the day my bubble bursted. The guys I have mentioned are literal serial killers.
*The lies don't work lady. Men know its all about looks first. Personality doesn't matter if you don't find him attractive. The sisterhood lies no longer work*
As a sensitive guy myself. The best thing that I did was to start weight training at the age of 14. It lowers stress, increases confidence and the increase in muscularity makes you carry yourself in a more masculine way. It's by far the easiest way for a boy to become a man in a healthy way.
Then raise him well to make sure he doesn't grow up to be a miserable little sh!t. make sure he eats healthy and sleeps well, make sure he stays fit, all in a balanced and healthy way ofc. Oh and if he starts showing signs of balding consider treating that too
My dude literally said he is 2 meters high and he is insecure about his height ... what? He is literally basketball player tall and he feels insecure about it. Like I'm sorry, but this is obviously not about height, not about your bone structure, not about your muscles, etc etc. These kids need therapy and I say that very lovingly. This aint right.
Compelled to comment as I am a speech pathologist for 22 years and this has the potential to change speech clarity, plus the position of the larynx which can change pitch. Vocal cord surgery is 100% NOT SAFE and could leave permanent vocal cord paralysis and loss of all vocalisation (no sound produced at all!). People have Botox to the jaw for tight maxillary muscles that cause bruxism (teeth grinding) and hoarse voice, and breathy voice due to aphonic periods. This breaks my heart that young boys, who don’t finish developing their brain’s executive functions until age 25, are undertaking actions that may leave them with no voice at all in the worst case, or with voice quality or speech clarity requiring intense speech therapy, all in the name of looks. Mewing has been a speech therapy exercise for years due to the effects the activity can have on swallowing and voice function. These boys don’t know they risk future swallowing or voice impairment if they pursue some of the practices you’ve mentioned in an adhoc, ill informed manner. I’m so glad I saw this as I’m honestly thinking I should raise concerns with my professional association to maybe get the Australian Government to collaborate on an information awareness campaign (RUclips ads maybe?) aimed at reaching vulnerable teens with constant access to social media. Can I please refer them to the information in your video? Thanks for your video as it may help spur action to prevent vulnerable young teens from developing swallowing and voice impairments! I am a Certified Practicing Speech Pathologist and member of Speech Pathology Australia for 22 years with significant additional training and qualifications in both voice and swallowing. Please let me know if I can refer to this video 🙏I think it will be vital in bringing attention to our Association’s management as you presented the information of concern in a well structured format and defined terminology and practices in an accessible way. I’d be so grateful for any chance to contact you re: research references that may help bolster my argument that our profession is uniquely positioned to petition for an awareness campaign over the significant dangers of these practices. Many thanks!
I’m also a Speech and Language Therapist in the UK and I 2nd everything said here. The trends seen here extremely disturbing the long term damaging effect to the facial structures vocal cords are not worth the procedures. 😢
I grew up on a remote farm, no television and no social media (im older...) and never knew that these things even existed before watching your videos. Exposing your kids to stuff like that and leaving them alone in a digital world is probably the best way to create insecurities that weren't there in the first place. btw Im 6'3" and 215 pounds, good shape and all... but you know what comes with being a tall man? Back and knee problems because you have to bent to do litterally everything. Teach your kids good values and self esteem. Live in the real world and care for what's really important. Family, childrens, health and you dont need much more. I'd be curious on how many of these mens grew without a strong father figure in the household
I think the most tragic thing about this trend is that they end up putting all this effort into themselves only to look pretty caricatural in the end. Not to mention that they develop a strong sense of superficiality which is not going to make their relationships, be it friendly or romantic, any easier.
Most romantic relationships are superficial. This is what all of the empirical research says on this topic. If people end up having less superficial relationships, where they have some compatibility with their partner in terms of personality, this is just by chance because all of the research suggests says that people predominantly pick partners on the basis of superficial characteristics, not things like personality.
Just to be clear. As a 5.2 girlie. A man being over six foot means nothing to me other than I need a step stool to kiss them lol and they can reach stuff I'd have to stand on the counter to get. Who gives a f about height... seems very shallow to me.
Even if you have preferences, it's usually a range that's attractive. And even then it the question if one really rejects someone only based ob that. The looks are more than one feature like height, jawline or whatever and a person is more than the looks.
I’ve never understood these short women wanting very tall men. I’m 5’7” and am dating a 5’6” dude. Height is sooo not even in the list of things I look for in a man lol
@@eunicee999they are trying to make up for their height maybe in hope that their kids won't end up as short as them, it's a deep rooted insecurity turned into a "preference"
Female bodybuilder here, young men on roids worries me a lot. They don't respect protocols and aren't at all mindful of what they take and the long term implication of it. They go heavy on the gears and end up fucked at 30, injectables are already pretty harmful when used like this but SARMs are worse.
Got 3 young kids, 2 boys, 8 and 4 (girl is 6.5), teach them to not live in other people’s opinions and eyes, just be good people, do good, learn and most importantly, be patient, work in your skills to succeed. Some things that matter to you now won’t in a few weeks, couple months… When you succeed doing things and learning things, you don’t care about the shape of your jaw or your teeth being crooked or far apart or whatever nor about what people think about you.
This is just devastating. Breaks my heart for these poor boys and men. I wish I could convince them that with age/maturity comes perspective, and a realization that looks are fleeting and the MOST superficial form of attraction. I wish I could say that what you prioritize is what you attract. If you are shallow and only focus on the superficial, who do you think you will attract? I wish I could say that you need to grow into your body and, by the time you get a bit older, you start to care less about what “doesn’t fit a standard,” or can make a more balanced and considered decision if there is still something that REALLY bothers you. I wish I could tell them that some of the MOST attractive men I have even met in my life were not necessarily “conventionally attractive.” Their intelligence, wit, generosity, work ethic and loyalty were what made them unbelievably, irresistibly sexy. Give me a 5”8’ intellect with wicked humour over a 6”5’ Gigachad any day. Give me guy with a panty-dropping personality over a guy who smashes his face with a hammer. But I realize that’s probably a more “mature” perspective from an older millennial who never had social media growing up (still only have RUclips) and had amazing influences like parents, etc. who taught me what matters in a husband. And I recognize parents are fighting a tough battle in the digital age. But it’s amazing when we step away from the excessive shallowness jammed down our brain stems on the internet, touch grass, meet people, realign our priorities with what really matters (less superficial “credentials”),… Suddenly men are seen for who they are and, in my experience, their physical appearance becomes simultaneously LESS important and MORE attractive, when the MOST important characteristics are prioritized. Thanks again for sharing! I had very little awareness in this topic.
We're just men giving women what they want because we understand the importance of being handsome and how it effects wether or not we'll get laid. We're tired of being the ugly guy watch the hot guys leave the club with all the girls so we've decided to become a hot guy so we can finally join in on the fun.
Problem is that younger women are more superficial. I had life on easy mode, I'm very attractive and getting the girl was as easy as saying I liked them. However, I've noticed a huge change from generation to generation and in 2017, things massively changed. Tinder started causing women's expectations to go through the roof. Now, here is the point where you attack me because I'm a man, thanks for the sexism. I worked in the fashion industry and I was surrounded by women of all ages and I can tell you exactly when it happened as I watched it in real time. I saw shy, innocent and kind women join the company, tell everyone they were going on Tinder and then 6 months later they are talking like a sailor about all the guys they've been with and how they think about guys and what their standards now are. I've seen it all, hundreds of times over from women of all ages and all levels of attractiveness. Tinder caused this.
looksmaxxing is a response to modern woman's superficiality, what are we supposed to do, be virgins forever? you're point of view is one of ignorance to young men's problems today and the harm social media has caused.
@@ruzzianbot They want us to suffer while they go around telling us that classic lie "youre handsome, im sure some girl will want you" right before the turn around and laugh. Women understand competing for hot guys which is why they get the BBL, lip fillers and acrylic nails but they find it repulsive if a ugly guy get surgery to become the hot guys they actually sleep with. They want us to watch from the sidelines as time flies and we miss out on all the fun
There's nothing wrong with guys taking care of their appearance as long as they are pursuing natural improvements. Listening to both men and women acting like looks dont play a huge factor is laughable. Just pay attention to men and women's swiping on dating apps and you will see why men struggle. Granted, many factors beyond looks matter as well and you have to work on them too but you ladies set the tone for a lot of things.
Looks are by far the most important. I mean if you have a severe social impairment or something you're going to run into issues, but barring that, you can be the most boring person in the world - as long as you are good looking it doesn't matter.
This is such a great video. I’ve watched so many of these look Maxing videos, but they have never gone into this much detail. I’ve learned so much more new things.
Thank you for this. I'm the parent of two teens and I will be sitting down and watching this video again with them. I will speak to them about self security, the virtue in pursuing intellect and creativity and the danger of consumerism. Our youth are being poisoned and as an older person looking in, I find it absolutely terrifying.
Any time I start feeling insecure about turning 30 (which happens more often than it should), I've gotta remind myself that I'm LUCKY that I'm 30. I just know myself and I know that had I grown up in a time where we were chronically online and where there's such extreme beauty standards, I would've fallen RIGHT into that trap, and it would've been in a bad way. So next time I'm feeling like an irrelevant millennial, im just gonna learn in harder to my love for my skinny jeans and my side part.
looks have always been a huge issue, even in elementary school people are aware of who is attractive and who is not and they often don't even try to hide it, I know girls that bullied boys in my class because they were ugly (this is children ages 9 - 12) so it is a very natural part of being a human and appears very early.
The reason young men are doing it is because women select only the top 1% at best on dating apps while rejecting at least 80% wholesale. 35%-40% of the young Gen are getting zero. That is why they are doing it.
THIS. .. Can we PLEASE for the love of God stop pretending that people's behavior exists in a vacuum. Driven by biology, the sexes influence each other's behavior. Female superficiality drives male vanity, and the "hypergamy" that men love to complain about so much is CAUSED BY MEN and our tendency to sleep with everything we can get our hands on. If the "top 1%" of men didn't entertain every chick they could then it wouldn't be this way
People be like ‘just get off the internet and look outside and you’ll see alot of average and below average men in relationships’ .. but people forget about ‘dead bedrooms’ and alot of them are into serial monogamy which means they just jump around using people until they find something better. The rest of the pool for men like this are divorced and single parents looking for the lucky man to save them once their 20’s are over even tho these women still dream of the 1%. I think even tho most average men can lust after a 10/10 super model baddie, they are still realistic and know they will have to settle. Women on the other hand can be a literal 2 with 2-4 kids by different baby daddies and still demand chad. 😂
It used to be 80% of average men struggling to get dates while 20% have the best relationships and dating experiences and then progressively inflated to being the 90-10 rule. Now in 2024 it’s definitely 99-1%. You can definitely tell by the way men and women treat and talk about each other these days. Dont listen to what they say tho, instead look and listen to their actions. Their actions speak volumes. They want the top 1%.. its ho3 hyper inflation now just like the economy lmao
I'm a 38yr-old single, mostly straight, cis woman and have completely opted out of the looks rat race. I buzzed my hair last September, don't wear makeup but for the extremely rare occasion, dress 80% androgynously and am just living my life without worrying what other people think about the way I look. The time, money, and energy I save as a result is really freeing
Canthal tilt is just the male version of the Foxy Eye trend. These kids need to find a hobby and develop themselves to provide real value to the world their careers and society. Wayyyyyyyy too much time on their hands and too much time spent looking in the mirror and their phones.
Many Many Congratulations Dear Caitlin on 70K Subscribers and I wish one day you will reach 100K Subscribers very very very soon🙈🥹🥹♥️ and today you are looking just beautiful
! 29:42 I birthed twin girls vaginally and I was worried about down there. My husband is as……enthusiastic lol he says it’s the same house just the furniture is rearranged. I feel bad for those other women who don’t have that
What does that even mean though ? Same house with furniture rearranged.. I’m 38 no children and honestly mine has changed so much with just simply age. I started noticing around age 35. Interesting how it is not really talked about the natural normal changes due to child birth and simply just the aging V.
I’m surprised at how many people here don’t know about looksmaxxing? Especially the women here…it’s been around a longgg time but just caught up to men somewhat more recently. I don’t see how she thinks it’s worse for men than women, since it’s *always* worse for us … but ok 🤷🏻♀️
I saw RUclipss and a BBC documentary about incels so knew about it. It's still definitely worse for women but what makes this quite sinister is the trolling. They really can be quite f****** horrible to each other 😮
Mother of a 22 old young man. Only advise I could give is, spent time with your kids. Real time. No tv, no phone, nothing. Be open, be honest, do not judge. Let your kid know he is loved, cherished, let him know he can talk to you without you immediately judging or preaching. We do that often unconscious. Mind what you say but most of all. Spent time with your childeren. Quality time is so important. My boy is 22. Stable, healthy, non nonsense. He sees this idiocy and only shakes his head about it, knowing fully it is all bullshit.
WTH is wrong with these ppl,encouraging a child to starve himself is disgusting. Social media has completely messed up this generation, it's so sad to witness as an 80s child who didn't have all this pressure to look a certain way.😢😢
I mean, as a teenager, most of my peers just make fun of this concept & don’t actually take it seriously, so it’s not something to worry that much about
I have no idea what is happening in this world as I don’t even use social media or the internet. I can’t imagine this whole world of pressure that thanks to the internet our most vulnerable teenagers will be exposed to before they have developed executive functioning skills and aren’t fully developed until age 25! This is making me terrified! Thanks your commentary brings my attention to these issues and still allows me to avoid the internet!!
Congratulations on being free from addiction. It's something to be proud of. I hope that the focus for young guys will be what they want to do with their lives and role models who a participating in something that benefits the world. Be a plus for their local community, and learn something that isn't about them.
There is a saying, it rings true in my experience. "It's not the size of the ship, it is the motion of the ocean." -- you can be 12 in and still not get her to achieve the "goal" and achieving the goal is really all we care about.
I really want to say it's great that you've had this realization that men have struggles they don't speak about. Unfortunately a lot of men (especially the older ones) have been raised being told they should "man up" or some variation of that theme. What you see there is simply the result of this.
I watched a documentary on this and as a grandma to ten young soles aged from 14 down it absolutely terrified me. I'm lucky to have a really good and close relationship with in my family and we are all close. I asked my 14 year old grandson about this topic and he knew so much. He said boys he knew were actually hitting themselves and each other with hammers to increase the cheek and jaw bone structure. They are 14, they haven't stopped growing yet. He reassured me he thought that they where stupid. His words, not mine. All my children and their family have at least one board game night where everyone joins in. It builds strength in family and gets them away from their screens for a couple of hours. Friends and other family members are always welcome and it used to amaze me how wide a subject we discussed during play. How the h ell has this happened to our children!?
To this day, at 34 years old and married, I’ve never understood these insane height requirements girls/women have. The super short girl who said a guy “has to be” 6’6”?!?! Does she not understand the possible physical incompatibilities she could have with a man that tall?? 🥴 As a 5’2” woman, I dated a 6’2” guy once and after that I preferred guys 5’10” and under. Not that it was a deal-breaker, and the relationship with the taller guy didn’t end because of his height (obv). But a lot of physical… activities are much easier to enjoy when there isn’t a whole foot of height difference between us. And it’s for sure a bonus that my man isn’t breaking his back bending over to kiss me, and I also don’t have to be in heels or on tip-toe to reach him all the time 😅 Just my 2 cents 🤷🏻♀️
People attempting to enhance their appearance is a response to OTHER PEOPLE'S superficiality, not their own. If you know (and all the empirical research demonstrates) that people predominantly choose their partners on the basis of physical appearance, and you want to be other people's partners, then what else are you supposed to do but predominantly focus on your appearance? It would be irrational and misguided to do anything else.
As a survivor of Ana ED - starvemaxxing is just having Ana and giving a more masculine sounding name. It breaks my heart to see young men going through the same pressures and tortures I and many other women did in the 2000s.
Interesting video! My 10 year old son, who is legitimately model good looking already (objectively, not just parental pride 😂) has already asked me several times if he’s ugly 😟 I’m so happy I grew up before social media ruined peoples self perception. When I grew up, the beauty standard was a much lower bar…just being moderately attractive, clean and presentable, and funny made you a catch 😂
Thanks for the detail in this video. My 10 year old son mentioned "mewing" and i kept saying "no it's pronounced meowing." 😂 I had no idea what mewing was. I'll definitely be taking this seriously now.
Part of what is making some of this is that all of our media is 2d. At some point when 3d becomes standard some of these trends will die or change. As a simple example, I saw a celebrity being discussed who was a beautiful woman. However, she was girl next door beautiful, which meant her features were flattened on video. She got plastic surgery tweaks to make her features more defined. And then she was better received.
As a young female, I would agree that those things don't matter to me. If your intentions are to just have regular hookups, maybe your height and size P would make a difference, but in looking for a genuine, long term relationship, I wouldn't say there's much reason to worry. Yes there will be people who don't like you or are mean, but just remember they do not represent everyone. When I first met my current boyfriend, I didn't start by asking his height and P size as I didn't care. I wanted to get to know him. His hobbies, interests, family, etc. We've been dating for years now and I still couldn't tell you his exact height as I've never had a reason to memorise it 😂
The looksmaxxing community is dead on about women rejecting men predominantly based on looks. That clip of all the girls wanting 6 ft minimum is reality. The problem isn't with boys or looksmaxxing.
I have been teased, even, physically, challenged about my masculinity due to my high voice, which have led to people assuming I must be gay or effeminate. I HATE to hear my voice. I don't listen to voice recording. voice messages I leave for people, I NEVER took voice notes at Uni., even today post 40s I still dislike my high voice but NEVER considered surgery. Vocal lessons, yes, singling lessons, sure, acting and how to throw ones' voice, definitely, SURGERY!!!! HELL NAH!!
I am very glad to be a millenial that is out of the dating pool but from perspective of men, this is a response to the trend that on dating apps, a large amount of women are matching only with a small amount of men. This is what men try to do to get themselves to become that small amount of men.
Looksmaxxing is great as long as you don’t overly obsess over it and also improve yourself in other aspects Ps chewing gum isn’t to spot reduce fat it is to train your masseter muscles therefore making your jaw wider
The only thing that beats my insecurities is my laziness to do anything about it :D But on a more serious note, quite a lot of these boys, especially the more extreme ones, on these forums displays symptoms of body dysmorphic disorder, a clinical disorder that shares some underlying characteristic with anorexia nervosa. Good for you to highlight this later on in the video. For people who suffer from BDD, a cosmetic surgery doesn’t solve their insecurities as the focus of perceived deficit will shift to a different part of the body/bodypart they are obsessing with.
I feel its important to mention that it's the healing of MICROfractures (such as those formed by activities such as running or parkour or gymnastics) that cause the bone to grow back stronger, and that it's a process that happens over years of getting small micro fractures and having them heal for the bone to strengthen. Also, I would be incredibly apprised if the medical studies they used were about facial bones and not the limbs, and as previously stated, may not be relevant to the fractures created by bonesmashing.
There's a serious lack of soul in this world; we're in superficiality overload.
People are superficial by nature, pretty privilege didn't exist just now, it exists with the existence of humsns
90% the fault of postmodern women.
It’s an unfortunate reflection of how people really are
So wanting to take care of yourself is soulless? Interesting take
With every day that I'm getting older, I'm becoming happier with growing up during the 80s and 90s.
The years before things hit the fan 😂😅
Amen!!!!!❤❤❤ I actually love my imperfect body ❤
We didn’t have to compare ourselves to anybody but movie stars. And we had to watch movies or buy magazines to look at them. No one got boob jobs or other Plastic surgery as a norm, MEN AND WOMEN WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE BODY HAIR. The world is broken.
Same. Those were the decades when there was perhaps least pressure for any sick beauty ideals.
Same!
All of this is sad as hell. I know no guys are likely to read this but: I'm happily married to a balding 5'6" man who is smart and kind and I think he's gorgeous. It's not about what other sad isolated men tell you, it's about who you are and how you relate to others, women, and men, and children, that makes you a person who's good to be around and frankly loveable.
I love this Thankyou ❤️
I'm so sick of these 5'0 women talking about 6'0 guys!!!!
No offense but you being happily married or married to a balding guy is not a unicorn, women have been thought to look at personality over looks ,so it's more common to see a beautiful woman next to a man that's not physically attractive,
Not offense,but you being happily married or being married to a balding guy is not a unicorn,women have been thought to prioritize personality over looks when it comes to men,while being told to look physically good for men ,so what you are doing is the norm not surprising
@@purplelove3666 Yet somehow these poor young men end up convinced that they have to hurt themselves so badly physically, while not prioritizing their mental health and personality! It's a real problem of messaging.
I’m proud that you threw away your luxury shopping addiction. You don’t need to wear expensive stuff to be happy.
Yes! Thank you!
They should start smartmaxxing
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Some might turn even that toxic. As Caitlin mentions the idea behind many of these things isn't bad but how it's executed, ouch. And I'm afraid that some take that seriously 😲 E.g. the guy who didn't eat for one or two days. Bro, your body is flashing the "low battery" warning light! Get some fuel!
Or valuemaxxing: developing themselves to provide ACTUAL value to the world, society, their careers, family and friends. Theses kids are lost 😢
The whole world needs it !!! 🤓
😂😂😂😂😂
Loving that Catlin is bringing up the other side of this issue! Its so easy to think of body issues as being a female only problem the more we talk about this the easier it will be to center self-acceptance and non-judgement! (Also congrats on 70k) 🎉
Thankyou so much Ella ❤️
As someone who finished their first year of psychology and sociology, I do think mental health issues regarding the body and social media are a genuine concern. It's why I uninstalled all social media like tiktok and instagram, because of the rotting of my perception of what's real and what's not. It's made me 'wake up' about the reality of my appearance. At first, it was hard because I thought I was getting ugly lol but it was actually because I was no longer enhancing my photos and using filters all the time. I had to get used to seeing my ACTUAL self which isn't necessarily ugly but isn't a fake version of myself. I'm starting to see how pretty I actually am, so I probably won't engage with instagram or tiktok again.
This is so interesting and I think its more common than we are willing to admit Thankyou for raising this
@@CaitlinPawlowski mewing actually works lol I've always have a bad underbite and it massively improves your teeth alignment and double chin. I found out about it before 'looksmaxing' became a thing, it originates from a real dentist. The results in the tiktok videos are hugely obviously overstated, but for mouth posture its very useful.
Just finished the vid and wowww, i didnt know how deep the rabbit hole went
You look fine. If you spent a day single, it would be because you wanted to.
That's ass shaking worthy news.... excuse me ,😊 ALEXA!!!!!! IM TRYNA GET NASTY!!!!!😂...Playing NASTY by Tinashe
@@Llkoliigenerally I think mewing was started by a dentist to build good habits to prevent mouth breathing, which can lead to sleep problems and sinus/breathing issues.
Great vid! I'm a man and think a big issue is as a man we're shamed for talking about our insecurities due to largely patriarchal gender norms. As someone who is also in their early 30s I was deeply insecure, skinny, average heighted guy throughout my teens and early 20s. Never really had luck with girls until I was like in my mid 20s so I just carried on. I always say if I had access as a teenager to these communities it would've easily radicalized me, so I'm glad I grew up in a time where these communities didn't really exist or were readily accessible. Now that I'm 30, it's hard to tell a other younger men that things get better, when they feel constantly rejected and can't talk about it other than in a toxic echo chamber.
My life is pretty great now with a loving partner who I find beautiful, good job, etc, it just took longer to get there.
Thankyou for sharing your experience as a man ☺️
@sighswoons with that thumbnail there's no way you are man. Real men aren't as sensitive and have thicker skin and we don't let social get to us like women do.
Wtf
Requirements has shot up, regular / invisible men try to meet it to improve their chance on dating market, that's it bro, don't overthink or sugarcoat through political standpoint.
"patriarchal gender norms", "toxic echo chamber"...100% this commenter is a female sociology major, probably a sophomore. I predict she'll finally grow out of the marxist programming by 2040
I am 44 and scared for them. Starvemaxxing, bonesmashing🤦♀️🤦♀️
The starvemaxxing is just pro-anna content aimed at men. I thought we left heroine chiqe in the 00s? It's absolutely concerning
@@KeaganZ2737everything from 00's is coming back.
@@KeaganZ2737my thoughts exactly, just pro ana but make it "manly" bc of the feminine stereotype of anorexia (and eating disorders in general).
And theyre young like under 18 and still growing, so body is stressed and harmed in the process.
Thank you for this video!! As a mama of a almost teen boy.....it is heartbreaking to hear some of these "trends"! Thank you for bringing these to light and making others aware!
Don't give birth to ugly person and he will not blame you for his genetics
I have a couple of friends who are so gorgeous, men and women still watch them walk down the street (alone or together) even in their 60s. What they told their kids (son and daughter) when he was concerned about their looks. You don't need to be the person who values you for how you improve the scenery. You need the person who values you for how your presence improves their life.
OK, so they dated each other because they were good-looking. What's your point?
I think once someone (male or female) starts down this road, they will keep finding things to "fix" and never be satisfied with their body.
Meh, people predominantly choose both short-term and long-term partners on the basis of looks, so it's only natural that you should obsess with how you look, because it's predominantly this quality that people are going to evaluate you on when deciding if they want to be your partner.
I'm tired of what social media is doing to us.
I agree!! We should fcuk to solidify our mutual hatred for social media,🍆
Social media ?? Keep being delulu
Social media is a side effect or symptom, not the cause.
Got nothing to do with social media. People picking their partners on the basis of appearance precedes the advent of social media.
I am absolutely shocked I never knew anything about this. As a mother of a young son I am just terrified of what's to come in the future. When are all of us men and women going to just draw the line and be happy and proud that we are all unique and that is what makes us all beautiful ❤
Stop copemaxxing you have to allow your son to invest everything into looksmaxxing or else he will be miserable. Women in this generation only care about your physical appearance. They won’t give you the time of day if you are unattractive. Spare your son the suffering of being average or below which was me for most of my high school and middle school years. Never getting female attention until recently and I’m 18 but it’s too late I’ll never have the experience of being a guy that girls like in high school or having a prom date or first kiss at homecoming.
People who have nothing nice to say should just say nothing at all
@@mariadaly4673 yeah that’s what they “should” do but nobody does what they should do in this world. The world will never conform to people’s individual needs the person has to adapt to the world or they won’t succeed. Either you look good and have success with women and positive affirmations in your social circle or you see a sub 5 who will never have romantic interactions and have to rot inside their basement for their whole life if they don’t hardmaxx
Warning: Bluepill Overdose !
You are a highly empathetic and intelligent individual. This is an excellent video.
Thank you for your very detailed video. I think this is a very important topic for men especially if they are silently suffering.
I agree!
Thankyou so much for watching
A man's perspective: none of this would be happening if any of these men were able to score a date. I repeat, this would literally end overnight if these men were selected for dating relationships.
Due to iphones, social media, and online dating (2008), and their influence on society - 40% of men aged 18-30 are now virginal in the west. You read that correctly, almost half of all young men in the west have never had even 1 encounter. Whereas women in that age group are at around 8%.
The reason is because of women's selectivity on dating apps. Only the best men get chosen. The top 60% of women match with the top 10% of men on dating apps.
When a man cannot get a date, he starts to question himself and the world around him. Looks maxing is the only answer.
Yep, optimize, adapt and overcome
Exactly this. People will say “ohhh it’s so sad that these guys have to deal with this.” But don’t say anything about what the real solution is.
@@mrmoe110 that's because men's problems aren't as significant as women's problems. Women go through a lot more.
Also, there are more men on dating apps
@@mrmoe110 and if we say the most likely method of success, people will critize it because it does not consider in acope the many exceptions to the rule.
Thing is, most times there is no inherent solution.
Just a common sense observation on the 15 yo starvemaxxing. He is growing. How is he supposed to heightmaxx if he isn’t giving himself the right amount of calories and nutrients? I mean starving yourself will stunt your growth. Especially at that age.
Ok I felt stupid using those words lol
I missed this video because I was travelling but omg can’t wait to watch this. As a guy I’m always getting targeted with these ads and then I went down into a rabbit hole of how crazy this is!!
Thank you for covering this topic, Caitlin! This isn't talked about enough. I told my husband these kinds of things weren't reality.
Brendan Fraser and Hugh Jackman blacked out during filming due to dehydration six packs. Tom Holland went through micro electric shocks to get his abs looking a certain way. It's barbaric what men are put through for the "look" and I as a woman hate it. It's abuse plain and simple.
Our society has devolved to new sad lows. 😒
Looksmaxxing is not only for men, it's for all people, men and women, you can call it glow up or self imrpove or anything you like, in the end it's the way to be the best version of yourself, lookmaxx was considered somthing only for men because everyone who talks about it are men, the reason is due to the difficulty of attracting a hot girls, while women have it easier, because men will fvck anything, so please women, have a certain awareness when talking about a topic
The thing about height is it’s not a dealbreaker but you’ll still be informed that taller is better somehow. I’m 5’8”. The girl I recently dated, who actually approached me first, told me after a couple months of seeing each other that when she was younger she would’ve never even noticed a guy my height. So even if you “get the girl” you still feel that she’d actually prefer someone taller.
I love how he told him, “ I do agree with the theory but I don’t agree with your concept” before walking away
Great video! Thank you! You've done an incredibly deep and thorough research on looksmaxxing. I've never heard of it before, but I swear it appears terrible and horrifying. God save our men!
Thankyou so much for watching ❤️
Most women rate men below average. I'm not really surprised this trend became more popular as of recent...
It's weird how people will refuse to go to a doctor or a therapist, and get help through a safer and more regulated channel. But will drop hundreds and thousands on these unregulated stuff like peptides and supplements of do risky things like bone smashing. The amount of blind faith in these strangers online that perpetuate these insecurities is wild.
It’s absolutely crazy
Thanks for watching!
Looksmaxxing is free
Bone smashing? That sounds nasty.
Trusting a doctor is blind faith too. Therapists are risky for the wallet.
@tylersdadx okay but doctors go through extensive schooling, clinicals and residence, plus they adhere to a board where they can loose their license and be sued for medical malpractice. These people aren't held to that same level of standard and scrutiny. It's therefore riskier and more costly down the road. EVERYTHING in life carries risk, so to say, "oh but this also has risk" is not fully valid as a reason. Therapy also isn't as expensive as people claim depending on different factors. But if you can afford to do these costly things that can be even more expensive upfront and down the road. You can get multiple sessions with a therapist. Besides, at least for me, my therapist is the same price as seeing my docto.
Omg! This is sick and scary!! I didn’t know there is such a thing😢 Heartbreaking😰
A lot parents aren’t doing their jobs at home, which is a good starting point to counteract these unhealthy behavior tendencies the youth are partaking
I wish people put this much effort into their personalities
You don't need good personality when you have a good face. Haven't you heard of Ted Bundy, Charles Sobhraj, Richard Ramirez?? Also Jeremy Meeks. Try searching them and read about them. I used to think just what you said but when I read about them I realised looks>personality. That was the day my bubble bursted. The guys I have mentioned are literal serial killers.
Then why don’t you date some of the men in your friendzone since personality matter?
@@rigojin2615facts they are all terrible people but get women want them simply for there looks jfl. Personality only matters after the looks
*The lies don't work lady. Men know its all about looks first. Personality doesn't matter if you don't find him attractive. The sisterhood lies no longer work*
If you realised how clueless this comment really is, I hope you never would have said it.
As a mother to a 10 yr old sensitive son this scares the 💩 out of me 😢😢😢😢
As a sensitive guy myself. The best thing that I did was to start weight training at the age of 14. It lowers stress, increases confidence and the increase in muscularity makes you carry yourself in a more masculine way. It's by far the easiest way for a boy to become a man in a healthy way.
Teach him to not be jealous of women
Then raise him well to make sure he doesn't grow up to be a miserable little sh!t. make sure he eats healthy and sleeps well, make sure he stays fit, all in a balanced and healthy way ofc. Oh and if he starts showing signs of balding consider treating that too
The ideal look is a changing style. Imagine getting surgery or braking your own facial bones and then the stule passes.
Chiseled jawline and being tall will never go out of style, agree that smashing bones is stupid tho
What is attractive has being that way for tens of thousands of years.
This is sad. The only maxxing anyone should be doing is shopping at TJ Maxx.
My dude literally said he is 2 meters high and he is insecure about his height ... what? He is literally basketball player tall and he feels insecure about it. Like I'm sorry, but this is obviously not about height, not about your bone structure, not about your muscles, etc etc. These kids need therapy and I say that very lovingly. This aint right.
Looksmaxxing community already knows
So why does he not feel secure, what's driving the insecurity ? I already know the answer.
Compelled to comment as I am a speech pathologist for 22 years and this has the potential to change speech clarity, plus the position of the larynx which can change pitch. Vocal cord surgery is 100% NOT SAFE and could leave permanent vocal cord paralysis and loss of all vocalisation (no sound produced at all!). People have Botox to the jaw for tight maxillary muscles that cause bruxism (teeth grinding) and hoarse voice, and breathy voice due to aphonic periods. This breaks my heart that young boys, who don’t finish developing their brain’s executive functions until age 25, are undertaking actions that may leave them with no voice at all in the worst case, or with voice quality or speech clarity requiring intense speech therapy, all in the name of looks. Mewing has been a speech therapy exercise for years due to the effects the activity can have on swallowing and voice function. These boys don’t know they risk future swallowing or voice impairment if they pursue some of the practices you’ve mentioned in an adhoc, ill informed manner. I’m so glad I saw this as I’m honestly thinking I should raise concerns with my professional association to maybe get the Australian Government to collaborate on an information awareness campaign (RUclips ads maybe?) aimed at reaching vulnerable teens with constant access to social media. Can I please refer them to the information in your video? Thanks for your video as it may help spur action to prevent vulnerable young teens from developing swallowing and voice impairments! I am a Certified Practicing Speech Pathologist and member of Speech Pathology Australia for 22 years with significant additional training and qualifications in both voice and swallowing. Please let me know if I can refer to this video 🙏I think it will be vital in bringing attention to our Association’s management as you presented the information of concern in a well structured format and defined terminology and practices in an accessible way. I’d be so grateful for any chance to contact you re: research references that may help bolster my argument that our profession is uniquely positioned to petition for an awareness campaign over the significant dangers of these practices. Many thanks!
I’m also a Speech and Language Therapist in the UK and I 2nd everything said here. The trends seen here extremely disturbing the long term damaging effect to the facial structures vocal cords are not worth the procedures. 😢
I grew up on a remote farm, no television and no social media (im older...) and never knew that these things even existed before watching your videos. Exposing your kids to stuff like that and leaving them alone in a digital world is probably the best way to create insecurities that weren't there in the first place.
btw Im 6'3" and 215 pounds, good shape and all... but you know what comes with being a tall man? Back and knee problems because you have to bent to do litterally everything.
Teach your kids good values and self esteem. Live in the real world and care for what's really important. Family, childrens, health and you dont need much more. I'd be curious on how many of these mens grew without a strong father figure in the household
You really don’t understand the struggle. As a man if you don’t have the looks, women will never truly desire you.
Facts she doesn’t understand the bp . It’s just greys trying to speak on what they don’t understand
I think the most tragic thing about this trend is that they end up putting all this effort into themselves only to look pretty caricatural in the end. Not to mention that they develop a strong sense of superficiality which is not going to make their relationships, be it friendly or romantic, any easier.
Most romantic relationships are superficial. This is what all of the empirical research says on this topic. If people end up having less superficial relationships, where they have some compatibility with their partner in terms of personality, this is just by chance because all of the research suggests says that people predominantly pick partners on the basis of superficial characteristics, not things like personality.
Just to be clear. As a 5.2 girlie. A man being over six foot means nothing to me other than I need a step stool to kiss them lol and they can reach stuff I'd have to stand on the counter to get. Who gives a f about height... seems very shallow to me.
Totally agree 5’0 myself and people that are 5’7 seem tall to me! To pick and choose a partner based off height is so odd.
Even if you have preferences, it's usually a range that's attractive. And even then it the question if one really rejects someone only based ob that.
The looks are more than one feature like height, jawline or whatever and a person is more than the looks.
I know! It's ridiculous when short women talk about the tallest guys!!!
I’ve never understood these short women wanting very tall men. I’m 5’7” and am dating a 5’6” dude. Height is sooo not even in the list of things I look for in a man lol
@@eunicee999they are trying to make up for their height maybe in hope that their kids won't end up as short as them, it's a deep rooted insecurity turned into a "preference"
Female bodybuilder here, young men on roids worries me a lot. They don't respect protocols and aren't at all mindful of what they take and the long term implication of it. They go heavy on the gears and end up fucked at 30, injectables are already pretty harmful when used like this but SARMs are worse.
Reminds me of the pro ana/mia tips and tricks forums i used to frequent when i was a teenager
If you do not teach our precious youth to stand for something, they will fall for everything.
😂😂 the squinting. Why?? People are killing off their beautiful unique features and it’s so sad.
Got 3 young kids, 2 boys, 8 and 4 (girl is 6.5), teach them to not live in other people’s opinions and eyes, just be good people, do good, learn and most importantly, be patient, work in your skills to succeed. Some things that matter to you now won’t in a few weeks, couple months… When you succeed doing things and learning things, you don’t care about the shape of your jaw or your teeth being crooked or far apart or whatever nor about what people think about you.
Man said hes 198cm saying thats "short" is fucking crazy at that point 8feet is considered just right 😂😂
Maybe foids shouldn't write books about 7'2 guys. Also he's fucking larping.
15:31 I’m black & im cackling lmaoooooooo love you girl
This is just devastating. Breaks my heart for these poor boys and men. I wish I could convince them that with age/maturity comes perspective, and a realization that looks are fleeting and the MOST superficial form of attraction. I wish I could say that what you prioritize is what you attract. If you are shallow and only focus on the superficial, who do you think you will attract? I wish I could say that you need to grow into your body and, by the time you get a bit older, you start to care less about what “doesn’t fit a standard,” or can make a more balanced and considered decision if there is still something that REALLY bothers you.
I wish I could tell them that some of the MOST attractive men I have even met in my life were not necessarily “conventionally attractive.” Their intelligence, wit, generosity, work ethic and loyalty were what made them unbelievably, irresistibly sexy. Give me a 5”8’ intellect with wicked humour over a 6”5’ Gigachad any day. Give me guy with a panty-dropping personality over a guy who smashes his face with a hammer.
But I realize that’s probably a more “mature” perspective from an older millennial who never had social media growing up (still only have RUclips) and had amazing influences like parents, etc. who taught me what matters in a husband. And I recognize parents are fighting a tough battle in the digital age. But it’s amazing when we step away from the excessive shallowness jammed down our brain stems on the internet, touch grass, meet people, realign our priorities with what really matters (less superficial “credentials”),… Suddenly men are seen for who they are and, in my experience, their physical appearance becomes simultaneously LESS important and MORE attractive, when the MOST important characteristics are prioritized.
Thanks again for sharing! I had very little awareness in this topic.
Thankyou for sharing this I hope your comment reaches more people ❤️
We're just men giving women what they want because we understand the importance of being handsome and how it effects wether or not we'll get laid. We're tired of being the ugly guy watch the hot guys leave the club with all the girls so we've decided to become a hot guy so we can finally join in on the fun.
Problem is that younger women are more superficial. I had life on easy mode, I'm very attractive and getting the girl was as easy as saying I liked them. However, I've noticed a huge change from generation to generation and in 2017, things massively changed. Tinder started causing women's expectations to go through the roof. Now, here is the point where you attack me because I'm a man, thanks for the sexism. I worked in the fashion industry and I was surrounded by women of all ages and I can tell you exactly when it happened as I watched it in real time. I saw shy, innocent and kind women join the company, tell everyone they were going on Tinder and then 6 months later they are talking like a sailor about all the guys they've been with and how they think about guys and what their standards now are. I've seen it all, hundreds of times over from women of all ages and all levels of attractiveness. Tinder caused this.
looksmaxxing is a response to modern woman's superficiality, what are we supposed to do, be virgins forever? you're point of view is one of ignorance to young men's problems today and the harm social media has caused.
@@ruzzianbot They want us to suffer while they go around telling us that classic lie
"youre handsome, im sure some girl will want you" right before the turn around and laugh.
Women understand competing for hot guys which is why they get the BBL, lip fillers and acrylic nails but they find it repulsive if a ugly guy get surgery to become the hot guys they actually sleep with. They want us to watch from the sidelines as time flies and we miss out on all the fun
The only maxxing I want is HBOmax
There's nothing wrong with guys taking care of their appearance as long as they are pursuing natural improvements. Listening to both men and women acting like looks dont play a huge factor is laughable. Just pay attention to men and women's swiping on dating apps and you will see why men struggle. Granted, many factors beyond looks matter as well and you have to work on them too but you ladies set the tone for a lot of things.
BUT looks are the most important. That is why for many men like me, it's the only option to... well... maxximize our chances of success in dating
It's mostly looks
*Looks are 90%*
Looks are by far the most important. I mean if you have a severe social impairment or something you're going to run into issues, but barring that, you can be the most boring person in the world - as long as you are good looking it doesn't matter.
This is such a great video. I’ve watched so many of these look Maxing videos, but they have never gone into this much detail. I’ve learned so much more new things.
This video was well done. Thank you!
More and more women are starting to see men's issues and hear men when they talk about their struggles. This is awesome. Thank you for the video.
This is like a teacher finding out about looksmaxxing i was listening to this with a grin on the whole time loool hilarious
Thank you for this. I'm the parent of two teens and I will be sitting down and watching this video again with them. I will speak to them about self security, the virtue in pursuing intellect and creativity and the danger of consumerism. Our youth are being poisoned and as an older person looking in, I find it absolutely terrifying.
Any time I start feeling insecure about turning 30 (which happens more often than it should), I've gotta remind myself that I'm LUCKY that I'm 30. I just know myself and I know that had I grown up in a time where we were chronically online and where there's such extreme beauty standards, I would've fallen RIGHT into that trap, and it would've been in a bad way. So next time I'm feeling like an irrelevant millennial, im just gonna learn in harder to my love for my skinny jeans and my side part.
I'm a proud unattractive male. Women ignore me so I get to keep my money to myself. I do not envy the attractive male. I only wish you godspeed
That's wild
looks have always been a huge issue, even in elementary school people are aware of who is attractive and who is not and they often don't even try to hide it, I know girls that bullied boys in my class because they were ugly (this is children ages 9 - 12) so it is a very natural part of being a human and appears very early.
‘Pretty hip’ 😂
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The reason young men are doing it is because women select only the top 1% at best on dating apps while rejecting at least 80% wholesale. 35%-40% of the young Gen are getting zero. That is why they are doing it.
THIS. .. Can we PLEASE for the love of God stop pretending that people's behavior exists in a vacuum. Driven by biology, the sexes influence each other's behavior. Female superficiality drives male vanity, and the "hypergamy" that men love to complain about so much is CAUSED BY MEN and our tendency to sleep with everything we can get our hands on. If the "top 1%" of men didn't entertain every chick they could then it wouldn't be this way
People be like ‘just get off the internet and look outside and you’ll see alot of average and below average men in relationships’ ..
but people forget about ‘dead bedrooms’ and alot of them are into serial monogamy which means they just jump around using people until they find something better. The rest of the pool for men like this are divorced and single parents looking for the lucky man to save them once their 20’s are over even tho these women still dream of the 1%.
I think even tho most average men can lust after a 10/10 super model baddie, they are still realistic and know they will have to settle. Women on the other hand can be a literal 2 with 2-4 kids by different baby daddies and still demand chad. 😂
It used to be 80% of average men struggling to get dates while 20% have the best relationships and dating experiences and then progressively inflated to being the 90-10 rule.
Now in 2024 it’s definitely 99-1%. You can definitely tell by the way men and women treat and talk about each other these days. Dont listen to what they say tho, instead look and listen to their actions. Their actions speak volumes. They want the top 1%.. its ho3 hyper inflation now just like the economy lmao
It's over for most men
It’s time for us to see our individual beauty just enhances our collective beauty. Love ourselves. We are miracles.
I'm a 38yr-old single, mostly straight, cis woman and have completely opted out of the looks rat race. I buzzed my hair last September, don't wear makeup but for the extremely rare occasion, dress 80% androgynously and am just living my life without worrying what other people think about the way I look. The time, money, and energy I save as a result is really freeing
Canthal tilt is just the male version of the Foxy Eye trend.
These kids need to find a hobby and develop themselves to provide real value to the world their careers and society. Wayyyyyyyy too much time on their hands and too much time spent looking in the mirror and their phones.
Many Many Congratulations Dear Caitlin on 70K Subscribers and I wish one day you will reach 100K Subscribers very very very soon🙈🥹🥹♥️ and today you are looking just beautiful
Thank you so much 😀 you are so sweet 🥹 ❤️❤️ I hope you’re having a wonderful week!
! 29:42 I birthed twin girls vaginally and I was worried about down there. My husband is as……enthusiastic lol he says it’s the same house just the furniture is rearranged. I feel bad for those other women who don’t have that
What does that even mean though ? Same house with furniture rearranged.. I’m 38 no children and honestly mine has changed so much with just simply age. I started noticing around age 35. Interesting how it is not really talked about the natural normal changes due to child birth and simply just the aging V.
I’m surprised at how many people here don’t know about looksmaxxing? Especially the women here…it’s been around a longgg time but just caught up to men somewhat more recently. I don’t see how she thinks it’s worse for men than women, since it’s *always* worse for us … but ok 🤷🏻♀️
I saw RUclipss and a BBC documentary about incels so knew about it. It's still definitely worse for women but what makes this quite sinister is the trolling. They really can be quite f****** horrible to each other 😮
@@miakilroy1239newsflash: people troll on the internet
@@miakilroy1239 welcome to the internet, first time with trolling?
@@notsojharedtroll23 Yes! You're my first ever real-life sighting of a troll in the wild! Thank you for trolling! 😊🥰🫡
Dating and relationships are much much harder for men. Pressure to look good is higher on women though, much more pressure.
I suppose that I do live under a rock since I had no idea that this even existed! Consider my mind completely blown 🤯
Mother of a 22 old young man. Only advise I could give is, spent time with your kids. Real time. No tv, no phone, nothing. Be open, be honest, do not judge. Let your kid know he is loved, cherished, let him know he can talk to you without you immediately judging or preaching. We do that often unconscious. Mind what you say but most of all. Spent time with your childeren. Quality time is so important.
My boy is 22. Stable, healthy, non nonsense. He sees this idiocy and only shakes his head about it, knowing fully it is all bullshit.
thank you for your genuineness and for the great content! It’s very much appreciated I learned so many new vocabulary! ✨
Welcome to the black pill.
WTH is wrong with these ppl,encouraging a child to starve himself is disgusting. Social media has completely messed up this generation, it's so sad to witness as an 80s child who didn't have all this pressure to look a certain way.😢😢
Now we see the real things
I can't get over how they add "maxing" to the end of normal words and trying to make it sound new. Like no, you're not special.
ok, mouth breeder
It's trying to make it "less femme"
@@alexilaiho321💀
It’s not trying to make them sound new or special. It’s just modern slang.
This!!!!
Getting LOTS of dates is not how you find the one. I had three boyfriends in my life and the third is my lifetime partner.
I mean, as a teenager, most of my peers just make fun of this concept & don’t actually take it seriously, so it’s not something to worry that much about
These forums and the amount of active users makes me worry
@@CaitlinPawlowski true, they do prey on insecure, vulnerable people…
I have no idea what is happening in this world as I don’t even use social media or the internet. I can’t imagine this whole world of pressure that thanks to the internet our most vulnerable teenagers will be exposed to before they have developed executive functioning skills and aren’t fully developed until age 25! This is making me terrified! Thanks your commentary brings my attention to these issues and still allows me to avoid the internet!!
You don't use social media? 🤔
Congratulations on being free from addiction. It's something to be proud of.
I hope that the focus for young guys will be what they want to do with their lives and role models who a participating in something that benefits the world. Be a plus for their local community, and learn something that isn't about them.
There is a saying, it rings true in my experience. "It's not the size of the ship, it is the motion of the ocean." -- you can be 12 in and still not get her to achieve the "goal" and achieving the goal is really all we care about.
I really want to say it's great that you've had this realization that men have struggles they don't speak about.
Unfortunately a lot of men (especially the older ones) have been raised being told they should "man up" or some variation of that theme. What you see there is simply the result of this.
I watched a documentary on this and as a grandma to ten young soles aged from 14 down it absolutely terrified me.
I'm lucky to have a really good and close relationship with in my family and we are all close.
I asked my 14 year old grandson about this topic and he knew so much. He said boys he knew were actually hitting themselves and each other with hammers to increase the cheek and jaw bone structure.
They are 14, they haven't stopped growing yet. He reassured me he thought that they where stupid. His words, not mine.
All my children and their family have at least one board game night where everyone joins in. It builds strength in family and gets them away from their screens for a couple of hours.
Friends and other family members are always welcome and it used to amaze me how wide a subject we discussed during play.
How the h ell has this happened to our children!?
To this day, at 34 years old and married, I’ve never understood these insane height requirements girls/women have. The super short girl who said a guy “has to be” 6’6”?!?! Does she not understand the possible physical incompatibilities she could have with a man that tall?? 🥴
As a 5’2” woman, I dated a 6’2” guy once and after that I preferred guys 5’10” and under. Not that it was a deal-breaker, and the relationship with the taller guy didn’t end because of his height (obv). But a lot of physical… activities are much easier to enjoy when there isn’t a whole foot of height difference between us. And it’s for sure a bonus that my man isn’t breaking his back bending over to kiss me, and I also don’t have to be in heels or on tip-toe to reach him all the time 😅 Just my 2 cents 🤷🏻♀️
Finally someone who understands this
People are way to superficial they forget to live
It called real life
Ask yourself the questions, Why do they feel they have to do this in the first place ? and Are they really the superficial ones, what's driving this ?
@@Man-Of-Sorrows-2056 why shall I do that? Its their problem
@@sandraankenbrand Its a rhetorical question.
People attempting to enhance their appearance is a response to OTHER PEOPLE'S superficiality, not their own. If you know (and all the empirical research demonstrates) that people predominantly choose their partners on the basis of physical appearance, and you want to be other people's partners, then what else are you supposed to do but predominantly focus on your appearance? It would be irrational and misguided to do anything else.
As a survivor of Ana ED - starvemaxxing is just having Ana and giving a more masculine sounding name. It breaks my heart to see young men going through the same pressures and tortures I and many other women did in the 2000s.
Personality > Looks is what these people need to stumble upon on.
Interesting video! My 10 year old son, who is legitimately model good looking already (objectively, not just parental pride 😂) has already asked me several times if he’s ugly 😟 I’m so happy I grew up before social media ruined peoples self perception. When I grew up, the beauty standard was a much lower bar…just being moderately attractive, clean and presentable, and funny made you a catch 😂
Thanks for the detail in this video. My 10 year old son mentioned "mewing" and i kept saying "no it's pronounced meowing." 😂 I had no idea what mewing was. I'll definitely be taking this seriously now.
Part of what is making some of this is that all of our media is 2d. At some point when 3d becomes standard some of these trends will die or change. As a simple example, I saw a celebrity being discussed who was a beautiful woman. However, she was girl next door beautiful, which meant her features were flattened on video. She got plastic surgery tweaks to make her features more defined. And then she was better received.
As a mom who nursed 3 children, I’ve gotta say…stretching my boobs, did not create perkier or sexier effects.
As a young female, I would agree that those things don't matter to me. If your intentions are to just have regular hookups, maybe your height and size P would make a difference, but in looking for a genuine, long term relationship, I wouldn't say there's much reason to worry.
Yes there will be people who don't like you or are mean, but just remember they do not represent everyone. When I first met my current boyfriend, I didn't start by asking his height and P size as I didn't care. I wanted to get to know him. His hobbies, interests, family, etc. We've been dating for years now and I still couldn't tell you his exact height as I've never had a reason to memorise it 😂
Your self-reporting on what you look for in partners is unreliable and therefore irrelevant.
The looksmaxxing community is dead on about women rejecting men predominantly based on looks. That clip of all the girls wanting 6 ft minimum is reality. The problem isn't with boys or looksmaxxing.
Exactly she put in a clip saying what women want then right after she goes against it like what ? She’s coping
Thank you for sharing this super interesting! Honestly I felt like an 80 year old, I had no idea!!
I have been teased, even, physically, challenged about my masculinity due to my high voice, which have led to people assuming I must be gay or effeminate. I HATE to hear my voice. I don't listen to voice recording. voice messages I leave for people, I NEVER took voice notes at Uni., even today post 40s I still dislike my high voice but NEVER considered surgery. Vocal lessons, yes, singling lessons, sure, acting and how to throw ones' voice, definitely, SURGERY!!!! HELL NAH!!
I’m over here shaking my head, and kinda laughing a bit, at the same time seriously contemplating the craziness of this reality….
Your opinion does not alter how Reality functions. Please do not disrespect True Alpha Male Leonardo DiCaprio ever again.
I am very glad to be a millenial that is out of the dating pool but from perspective of men, this is a response to the trend that on dating apps, a large amount of women are matching only with a small amount of men. This is what men try to do to get themselves to become that small amount of men.
Looksmaxxing is great as long as you don’t overly obsess over it and also improve yourself in other aspects
Ps chewing gum isn’t to spot reduce fat it is to train your masseter muscles therefore making your jaw wider
You don't know how important height is
if you are under six foot it's difficult out there
explaining medical concepts to a doctor that confidently like "do you know what that is" is so male coded and wild lol
The only thing that beats my insecurities is my laziness to do anything about it :D
But on a more serious note, quite a lot of these boys, especially the more extreme ones, on these forums displays symptoms of body dysmorphic disorder, a clinical disorder that shares some underlying characteristic with anorexia nervosa. Good for you to highlight this later on in the video. For people who suffer from BDD, a cosmetic surgery doesn’t solve their insecurities as the focus of perceived deficit will shift to a different part of the body/bodypart they are obsessing with.
I feel its important to mention that it's the healing of MICROfractures (such as those formed by activities such as running or parkour or gymnastics) that cause the bone to grow back stronger, and that it's a process that happens over years of getting small micro fractures and having them heal for the bone to strengthen. Also, I would be incredibly apprised if the medical studies they used were about facial bones and not the limbs, and as previously stated, may not be relevant to the fractures created by bonesmashing.
Absolutely agree about Zac 😢
This is a great video