I feel the same way. Didn't want to say anything when those around me talked about it since they just wanted to insult her instead of thinking about her message (tbf she was having a breakdown so yeah).
@@skifzz1 exactly, these boomers worked at michaels craft store and could still afford a house while this girl works a decent 9-5 with 4 hour commute and has to rent a 1 bed. these old people are so unreasonable sometimes. people are working GOOD jobs and still living poorly. she has a degree she went to college and still is living poorly. it makes no sense she got hate.
She seems so nice nooo, the fact that she said “I know it could be worse” like we are conditioned to want to accept shitty ass schedules everything she said was completely accurate lol
Right? I really liked her honesty, even throwing in she's also on her period so that's why she's a mess about it. I felt like, yeah she might be a bit emotional and all but I agree with her too.
The worst part is, if you do have a more flexible schedule even if you are working the same hours as before. You get punished for it. Same job, same work hours, maybe a bit easier because of a flexible schedule, financial punishment. (Which this is the true reason why women make less, they are more prone to take the more flexible schedule. A person crunched all the numbers and got the Nobel prize from wish because of it. )
@@user-th1pv6ks5odamn. I work on Korea and its not even that bad. The company doesn't care about working hours, they only care about result. Which is good I supposed compared to being forced at a fixed schedule.
Ugly People just hate when pretty people complain how tough their lives are. She can totally marry and retire any time ahe wants, but most of the commennters are stuck in rat race until they die
It's genuinely weird to see how many people are so resistant to change. The mentality of "I went through x garbage thing so everyone else should too" is shockingly prevalent.
I get less empathetic every time I see Martha the Boomer or John from Gen X say this shit. And it's not like there's plenty of bootlickers in my own generation.
I think it has to do with how people were taught how “work” should feel like. I don’t know about other countries in the world but in the US some people have a mentality of not of a worker but a temporary embarrassed millionaire. Where they believe in meritocracy and instead of blaming a system for causing many of these problems it’s better to take out the individual that is just part of the system. That way it doesn’t threaten the system while feeling like change is taking place. “Having the feeling of change with no change” as I would like to put it. People in the US have always been more “conservative”. Just a small analysis on my part.
its 100% boomers and suck-ups. "Things were bad in my day and you should have to put up with it too" Yeah how about no. Productivity has 10X'ed since the 70s and wages have barely moved.
So im a 20 year old male that has been in the work force for a little bit. My first real job was at a plumbing company as a helper, and after i was let go, trying to find another job after that was damn near impossible. I applied to over 100 companies all in my area, and several of them were remote as well. Only recently did i finally find a job after like 4 months of searching. And i agree with her full heartedly. I get to work and clock in at 9, after i ly being awake for maybe an hour at most, i do my little front of house shenanigans at a fast food place, and i get home by 5:30 pm. I then don't have the energy to do anything i feel like id like to do, and it sucks. I dont hate the job, even as an introvert, i just wish there was more freedom in my day to day
@@user-th1pv6ks5o im not sure if its a genuine question but yeah its power. im not sure who the artist is since ive had this picture for like 2 years now
eat regularly and enough quality food, do excersice when you can without over doing it, get enough sleep everyday, socialise regularly without letting it disrupt you schedule and get some sunlight everyday. Don't drink or smoke everyday, if you drink 2 times per week is the limit to be sustainable. if you do this consistently for a year you will have energy after work. if you are still having energy issues go to the doctor, probably there is a problem with you diet or you have some sort of fatigue condition. you shouldn't be tired after an 8 hour shift. thats not normal.
It's pretty tragic that an emotional young woman can point out how awful the system is, yet, because she is an emotional young woman, people are shitting on her even though she is more correct than most of them ever will be
It's terrible, but it's been that way for a long long time, and even more depressingly, it will probably continue to be that way if not worse, for even longer.
@@MrMango-fz6uf misogyny (and ageism tbf) is definitely one of the major things to take away from this. a huge amount of the backlash is specifically because shes a young woman. its especially obvious in matt walsh's response, which is to be expected, but plenty of the other responses shown in the video were also laden with sexism
@@MrMango-fz6uf It is not the main thing I am taking away here, also I am not entirely talking about misogyny, it is also partly that she is young, and partly because she is emotional in the video. Misogyny is only about a quarter of what I talked about, maybe even less
@@christopherthompson5400 This is humanity, so long as there are differences between people, unfortunately people will continue to discriminate. However, if things do get worse, it would likely be in specific areas at specific times rather than things universally getting worse everywhere.
i work 8-5, i get a 1 hour lunch, i leave early if its quiet (salaried, doesn't hurt the checks) and I live 10 mins away from work. I am like BEST case scenario for the "9-5 work life" and it still sucks ass, 4 10 hour days would be 100x better, 5 days a week is brutal, that girl is 1000000000000000% justified
Also just looking at society in general, we have gotten so much more productive in general, we get so much more work done with less hours put in. There is no reason to still be working 40 hours a week, except none of that increase in productivity has given the workforce any benefit. I'm in pretty much the same situation as you, a best case scenario for 9-5, hell even working from home most of the time, and it's still miserable. No free time except for 2 weekend days and no realistic perspective of buying a house in the next 5 years at the least. Gen Z is completely justified in being doomers about the economy
in my opionion we should just cut down the 40 hour week to maybe 35 or even 30, with the same pay or more. as atrioc said in the video. You are more productive if you get less hours to do something so you cant fill the rest of the time with unnecessary tasks. say a 6 hour a day 4 or 5 days a week. Keeping the same pay. Companies might even see an increase in productivity. While a 6 hour day is much more managable than an 8 hour day. make that remote as well and you got the best case scenario
She just recognises the ridiculousness of the work structure. She's absolutely right. People are just too subservient to their corporate overlords to recognise what she did.
Anecdotally, I don't think it's necessarily that "people are just too subservient to their corporate overlords". I feel like the impression I get is that most people just genuinely do not give serious critical thought towards the things they experience and don't even consider that what they're doing might be inefficient, unnecessary, or broadly improvable, or they believe it simply cannot or will never be changed*. IDK if I think that's better or worse, just my two cents.
some of the people dunking on her worked trash jobs but still got paid decently and bought a house and started a family. shes out of college with a good job and cant afford anything with zero time. how are people this unreasonable.
@@AndrewRKennyI mean you're right. People end up unconsciously defending their corporate overlords because of their initial resistance towards the unknown/change. Of course Media figures like Matt Walsh isn't included in this. Those shitty pundits know what they're doing and they're entirely anti-labour.
The way people are so beaten down and brainwashed by corporate work culture is so pathetic but also sad. I see it online and I saw it when I was still working in the office. I remember once one of my co-workers complaining and they literally said they were afraid to rock the boat because they could be fired just like that. And like, we aren't burger flippers, we worked a white collar office job. A job where it would have cost the company easily $10,000 minimum in order to get a new employee to the point where they could start being trained to be a replacement. It's crazy to me how people have this slave driven mentality instilled into them. Where they think they have no rights. Where they're afraid to ask for a raise, or to say no to overtime, or even to tell co-workers they don't like to fuck off. And then they blame someone or something else for the state of their circumstances, as if they have absolutely no input or agency whatsoever. Where does it even come from? They can't ALL be former video game developers, right?
Agreed! Do not understand how any fellow 9-5'ers can feel anything but sympathy for her. Maybe the haters are more privileged with cushier gigs. In any case the stuff she is pointing out are factors in the increases we are seeing in depression, social isolation, financial stress, and declining birth rates.
I personally worked 42069 hours a day right out of kindergarten until retirement at 80 years old, so I have no tolerance for anyone not doing the same.
The fact that she is being attacked by people because she is unable to simply have time for herself to cook herself a decent meal or simply socialized her friends is absurd. What even more absurd is how her simple talking about how she feel is somehow being spin into a giant political debate. What even more absurd than that is that there is genuinely people who never even met the struggle she has that is trying to dunk on her.
@@wumbojet wait i get it now! he thinks she should have gotten pregnant at 16 (the ideal age according to him) because she wouldn't have had to worry about work in the first place!
@@wumbojet He at one point said we should treat 13 year olds like 23 year olds. Now note this guy has kids. 🤮🤮 Those poor babies, may they not get pregnant at 16, and may they not get child married by M.A.P. Walsh at 13.
I hate the old school mentality, this "Well I did it so you have to do it too." 100% agree with her, 4 hour commute takes so much of your life away. That is 20 hours a week lost that you will never get back. 20 hours of given away to a corporation because they get "warm feelings in their tummies", when you are in the office. If the CEO ain't in the office everyday neither am I.
Even punching just straight numbers, if you're losing 20 hrs a week, you're losing about 1040 hours in a year, meaning you've lost over a month during that year just to commuting. Now if you multiply that by 10, over the span of a decade, you'll lose over a year of your time that you'll never get back to just commute to your 9-5.
It boils down to a lack of empathy. That's why you see a lot of "I had to do it, so you should, too" mentalities. They absolutely do not care or factor in other people in their decision making at all.
the moment Big A showed a tweet from Matt Walsh trying to dunk on her I knew exactly what kind of people were hating on her and give her my full support
It's a major lack of empathy, 100%. It seems that many people want others to struggle as much as they did or have similar hardships as they did around the same age, all the while benefitting from prior progress to make the workplace a better environment for the workers such as when the shift to a standardized 8 hour work day occurred.@@IAmSilverlined
I don't get the controversy, she's right. I've been working for nearly 30 years now, starting from the service industry to corporate and now home-based. The hours can get crazy that you can't do anything else and when the weekend comes, you just want to go to bed and sleep until Monday rolls again. I did the grind, worked 6 days a week, averaging 14 - 16 hours a day for more than a decade as a corporate lackey. The pay was good but screwed up everything else. I remember even wishing I could go back to my first job with the terrible pay but lighter workload. Snowflake? Fck that.
Aw man I remember how miserable I was the first time I was introduced to 9-5. I was interning for a company that had a factory way out of town and had to get up super early, commute by bus and would reach back super late. I'd work for 8 hours and be commuting for 4 more. I remember being similarly frustrated. Not having time, energy or mindset to do anything. What that girl said is what all of us at one point went through. Dont see why she should be hated or called a snowflake for that. Its not like shes showing a lack of self awareness.
Right now I'm working a job in a frozen warehouse (-20 degrees) that is five 12 hour shifts with two days off. That doesn't take into account any commute time. So I wake up at 430 am to get ready for work at 6am, and I don't get home until 630 pm most days. My girlfriend already made dinner for her and her kid well before I got home, so by the time I change clothes and eat dinner, I have around 2 hours per day to unwind before I have to go to bed to get like 7 hours of sleep. Not really possible to get anything done on days I work. And I'm sure you can imagine what days off look like: grocery store trips, mowing the yard, doing laundry, paying bills, doing dishes, etc... Where the fuck is there any time to actually find any joy in life? I can play video games for like 3 hours a week. Am I supposed to be content with that until it's time to retire? Not even mentioning the amount of times I've gone in on my days off just because we were a little too close on bills for the month. This shit is absolutely untenable and I'm about to sell everything I own and move to the middle of the woods like fucking Matt Walsh suggested.
@@mrb6206Jesus christ dude, I'm 20 and in university right now and i think if I end up in your situation after graduating I'm just offing myself, that is not a fulfilling life. Hope something changes for you brother, wish you and your family all the best
Maybe I could have been more clear. She makes dinner for the three of us, but by the time I get home they have already eaten and my food is cold, so I have to warm it up and eat it when I get home. Which makes even more sense with the added context that she works at 4 am and is in bed by 7 most days, so pushing their dinner time back isn't exactly feasible.@@goelalphonz8798
Erik did an excellent job on the editing today. I REALLY loved the pop up bubbles for the chat messages Atrioc is reading. That was super high quality.
I find it insane that people hate on someone because they don't have free-time, whilst trying to stay independent and live her life alone, and it's all to blame because of a work schedule
See that is the thing, all these young boys are crying, whining and b*tching about lonliness, and this girl speaks STRAIGHT FACTS on why so many people are lonely, and they hate??? If all these men were REALLY concerned with the dating crisis they would say, "go off queen you need to be available, and have time so I can hit that" but instead they sh*t on her. 🙄🙄 Perpetuating THEIR OWN struggles while doing so.
Ugly People just hate when pretty people complain how tough their lives are. She can totally marry and retire any time she wants, but most of the commennters are stuck in rat race until they die
@@mrebear9758 did you not watch the video....... and no i dont ghive a shit what your parents did for you they were miserable and hopefully less bitter of ppl
@@andrewvaladez1929 I have worked significantly longer hours for the past 7 years. I usually finish around 8.00pm these days. When I first started it was closer to 10.00pm or midnight. I have never enjoyed the hours, but for me the income and stability of my job as a lawyer make it worth it for me. Many people work longer hours than I do and for less money. At the end of the day, I have to make a living (and so does every other adult). So, from experience, I can say one can always make time if they're willing. Meet up with friends for drinks or dinner. Watch a film after work. Meet up for a run or swim during your lunch break. Get up early and do some exercise with someone. It's not that hard. You have more opportunities to be social because you have more money. Frankly, dating is much easier as well since most people at that stage of their lives are in the same boat. Yes, long hours are exhausting and a shock to the system if you're not used to it but you should plan your life accordingly. It's hard to find any corporate job where you can work as little as 9 to 5 these days. If you don't want to work those hours, consider becoming a teacher or a tradesperson. Of course, these lines of work have their own downsides. Anyone who has worked a full-time job (ie most adults) can relate to the fatigue associated with that. But it's everyone's responsibility to plan their life around their priorities. You have to balance your level of interest in the work, with the stability of the job, your income and the amount of free time you will have. No one else will do that for you.
@@Joem2648 Isn't it so fucking funny that conservatives call everyone snowflakes, yet conservatives are the ones offended by made up bullshit and/or the betterment of society?
The crazy thing is many of the people attacking her are enployed. But they get paid to write articles based on their feelings, not do much actual work, and occupy a higher income bracket. Working a 9-5 is a lot easier if your main contractual activity is dunking on college kids and you're making 200k or more a year. The amount of middle management telling hard working people to suck it up while simultaneously providing 0 productivity themselves is boggling.
9 to 5 for office/intellectual job is so draining, man. After 6 hours I become brain dead and start either doing stupid shit or not being productive enough to my taste half of the time. For having worked physical jobs most of my life, working 10 to 12 hours in the construction field a day, the big difference is that physical activity keeps you awake and ready for so much longer. The fatigue seeps in in a rush when you stop. I always dreaded the moment I sat down at that time because I knew I would just drop from the stacked fatigue while relaxing. Intellectual jobs to me seems to just keep pilling the fatigue through the day.
There are an incredible number of people who will aggressively dump on any idea that is even vaguely critical of the status quo of American capitalism, even if it's just boring, completely obvious stuff like "it sucks that it takes an hour to drive fifteen miles into the city." Why? Who knows. Some combination of "I suffered and turned out okay, therefore everyone else should suffer like I did," and just good old fashioned deference to authority. American cities are awful to commute through. People don't even want to acknowledge the alternatives and what's possible in part, I think, because of how painful it is to acknowledge how far behind this country is in terms of urban infrastructure.
And then there's that whole BS conspiracy theory surrounding "15 minute cities". Lotta people seem to make it their life's calling to ardently embrace & defend the status quo 😒
I was watching her express the emotions all of us go through when entering the workforce and realizing how hard it is to balance work and making time for personal things, and it only dawned on me at the end of the video why this video would get hate. A lot of people struggle to empathize with others they see to be in an advantageous position, such as this pretty girl. It hit me like a wall of sad, realizing yet again that the internet is full of people lacking empathy. We gotta do our part to shut down that negativity, more empathy is needed.
Yeah, it's tough. My current boss makes my life extra unenjoyable which is great. It feels like people are always looking for ways to take each other down in these moments but I think it would do a lot of good for people to be more empathetic towards each other.
My number 1 goal in life is to avoid the 9-to-5 slog. I don't want a house, I don't want a car, I don't want to be rich, famous or successful. I just want to be secure, comfortable and have time to do the things I want with the people I love. It's absolutely fucked that even this is somehow almost impossible for the vast majority of people. I'm in college right now and I've been thinking about this exact thing for a very long time. It's insane to me how few options you have when all I want is more free time and a livable wage. What's fucked is that if there was a button you could press to do it right now, it wouldn't even have any major negative consequences and I believe 99% of people would do it, but no, line has to go up so screw reality and the actual conditions of humans the line is supposed to be measuring.
Serious advice from someone who just graduated into the working world a few months ago; whatever it is you're doing in college, whatever you're doing in the degree every day is at least a rough example of what you will be doing in the working world every single day. Make sure to take the physical aspects of a job into account. I didn't and am paying for it with a job that requires me to sit in a windowless room and stare at a computer for 9 hours a day.
@@Ven-zg3fjThat seems like good advice. I'm currently studying Mathematics as a sort of stalling tactic (I do love it though). I still haven't decided exactly what I want to do, but I'm hopeful that a Maths degree is versatile enough to give me some decent options for the future.
Crab bucket mentality on full display from all those negative responses. Plus I think there's a really toxic undercurrent in our culture where people lean into hardship and treat it as proof of toughness. "I had to work long hours too and I sucked it up because I'm not WEAK like these kids who are asking for reasonable conditions!!" It's also cowardly: they find it too painful to face the fact that they live in a messed up world and had to do a messed up thing (because that's a criticism of the system, and their identity is tied up in tradition and pride with very little room to criticize the status quo), so they act like it was fine and you're the weak one for wanting change.
The brain rot from 10hr warehouse work is crazy. With paid and un paid breaks your looking at 11hrs at the warehouse, a 30 minute journey each way takes it to 12 hrs. Only 12 hrs left toa day, take away 8 for health sleep and you've got 4 hrs, some of which is then used to get yourself ready for work the next day. Pretty much makes you've existence just making millions for one man while you barely get enough to keep the place you spend the least amount of time in. Shits beyond fucked up.
Had a half hour commute to high school and I had a small mental breakdown junior year after I was asked to drive back to pick up my brother after I had just gotten back. The actual activities were perfectly fine, but the commute made me so unbelievably unhappy. She was absolutely right in the video, no if’s, and’s, or but’s.
Nothing wrong with that video, she's just being introduced to the bullshit 9-5 life the middle class live. Hopefully she gets into the groove of things or finds a better job that makes up for the grind.
I got a full time job recently. I have a ton of hobbies and friends I try to keep up with as well. I have to wake up at 6am, drive 40 minutes to my job, work till 3:30am, and drive 40 minutes back. I am gone for basically 10 hours. When I get home I have to worry about food, cleaning, hygeine, bills, etc. By the time everything is done I have very little time + energy to actually hang out with people and do any of my hobbies. The only time I do get to do all that is when I stay up late, sleep less than 8 hours, and then the whole process is worse. Existing just fucking sucks during that. I'm hunting for part time now because I would rather be poor and happy than "rich" and dead inside.
the people who shit on this girl and say "i went through this and i am fine" are gonna be the people that say to a happy and smiling 12 year old "enjoy it while it lasts" while chuckling and smiling
I've never been more aggressive in my life than when I used to commute 2 hours a day for $15/hr. It made me a genuinely bitter and volatile person. Now that I work 4s and have a 15 minute commute, I might as well be Ghandi.
It’s easy to say in hindsight but I’m genuinely shocked that there was any negative reaction to this at all. I am constantly in awe by my parents’ ability to just clock into work, go home, sleep, and repeat. I’m 27 (graduated with my bachelors at 22) and can 100% relate to her stress and anxiety. You feel like you did everything correct and your reward is a lifetime of slave labor to make ends meat.
It’s crazy people would disagree or hate on her like we all collectively agree that this system is ass. And any old head that is hating saying they did their time isn’t thinking about the time they lost with their kids, or a single person who could’ve found a partner, or someone who could’ve had a puppy to raise and love. I seriously despise the Twitter hate crowd go to a therapist.
In my experience, therapists are the ones promoting this "don't think about others", "don't try to change anyone's life but your own", "Life's ABSOLUTELY in YOUR OWN hands!" way of thinking that leads to people saying "I had to go through that too. Get over it" and other despicable verbal garbage
Yeah, too many therapists are very anti collective. They simplify the world for their patients to make it easier to feel better about it. No therapist is going to say you’re depressed because of capitalism, even though that’s the major reason for most of it imho.
This summer was the first time i was working a true 9 - 5 corporate engineering internship / job. I was 13 min drive away from where I worked and it was engineering at a pharma company so the money was nice for an intern. But i also felt this same dread, looking at giving up the next 1/3 of my work week and ~1/4 of my whole life just felt insane. I was so unmotivated to do my work at this job and it almost felt like i dont know what do to. I still feel passion about what i want to do and im in the fortunate postion where ill likly be able to by something like a house in the next 3 - 5 years out of college but it still just felt so wack. I am a person who really enjoys being in office and working with my team in person but it feels as though something has to give. I wont be able to have the time i want for myself, be happy in what im doing, earn what i feel im worth, or be close enough to my work. It instantly made me feel that i need to look for change. Europe just looks so enticing with less commute time more vaction days among other issues. Its just a hard time to be starting your life in america, all it feels like is scary and all anyone older than be wants to say is shut up, it just sucks get use to it. Its just sad and we need change.
I totally feel for her. I love my job, work from home, and even I sometimes feel like I don’t have time or energy to get anything outside of work done. Especially in my old apartment - the nearest coffee shop was 45 minutes away on foot. If I wanted to leave my apartment, I basically had to either uber or bus. And so I spent all my time inside. Biggest life improvement I’ve made is moving to a new apartment that’s 5 minutes away from a bunch if coffee shops, restaurants and grocery stores. Just being able to pop around the corner and grab lunch, or a couple of ingredients for dinner is so refreshing after feeling like a hermit for the past 3 years.
My least liked thing about "in office" work was the meetings where half the people are in the office and the other half were working from home, especially when the upper management were the people who rarely came into the office if at all. Made us not want to go in because if the higher ups dont have to why do we.
I've been resisting 9 to 5 pretty much since I got in. I've quit 'great' corporate jobs a couple times to try figure things out. Just wanted to share that I got so relieved when Brandon said u can't put in more than 3-4 hours/day into cognitively demanding work, because that's what I have been averaging during this last year as I was running on savings to transition into coding (see if 9to5 coding is more fun than 9to5 management, even at the cost of the transition). The point is I have been so ashamed to be able to work only 15 hours a week, when I 'should' be studing and coding for fkn 40-60 hours a week. And we call that gap procrastination.. I am proud and I stand by the path I took.. can't say I have much to show for it so far.. for sure not money, and often not even 'happiness' (which is what hurts me the most) since pressure on mental health when u're outside the 'status quo' is real (at least for me).. But here I am, being part of this change Brandon's talking about and, I want to believe, I am wiser and wiser every year which I'll continue to transfrm into wellbeing. We need more conversations like this and more wisdom/ better mental health, I think should be humanity's bigest prio by far, way more than climate or anything else.. Richest countries seem to be the unhappiest, at least relative to resources available. Holly shit what a messy rant hahaha. We fkn got this, tho.. ez
I absolutely agree with her, I’m in a position where I adore my job but the commute is so hard. It’s way too expensive to live in the city so I have an hour’s worth commute via train. An hour itself isn’t the worst but what makes it worse is that I have to get up an hour before hand to get ready, I have to factor in the time to get to the train station, I then have to factor in the walk to my work building. On top of that once I finish work, by the time I get home? I’m still working. The fact I’m expected to take home work with me, to work when I should be having time to decompress is insane. And even then the times I don’t I’m still exhausted. It upsets me I can’t hang out with my small group of friends, it upsets me I can’t partake in hobbies I enjoy because I’m just empty when I get home. Then it’s just the same thing over and over again every single day. I get to maybe enjoy a weekend once and awhile when I’m not being stacked up to my eyes in work still. It’s not even a 9 to 5 at this point it becomes almost a 24/7 thing unless you’re sleeping. It’s not an effective way to live.
So Gen Z is getting into work now and experiencing what we as millenials did and the generations before us.... there's absolutely nothing to disagree with with what she says.... i've experienced the exact same thing and burned out almost a decade ago and through pure luck was i able to find a job that now actually fulfills me which i know is a giant privilege that most people don't have... the misogyny is crazy... she isn't weak... she isn't wrong.... she isn't a snowflake... i just hope Gen Z will do better and be able to change things.... 4 days work weeks are already finding some traction and more and more people are looking for places with good work culture and benefits rather than places with high pay or prestige.... maybe at some point most people will actually like their jobs rather than die inside doing them
The thing is gen z owns none of the capital. The people who established this problematic power structure are the ones most capable of changing it. Proportionally, from oldest to youngest generations, are the exact groups of people who are going to be most capable of reforming everything, and simultaneously the most jaded and least likely to care.
@@christopherthompson5400 Or put simpler, the ones capable of changing it are the ones who are actively benefiting from it in the first place, so why would they?
@@christopherthompson5400Well, some gen z have capital. They’re typically tech bros who have a puddle deep understanding of the humanities. This is how it’s always been though.
I totally agree with her. I’m in the same boat, just graduated in May and now working 8-5. It was totally a shock at first but I’m getting more used to it slowly. I also rent and have no spending money. Insurance, IRA, rent, groceries, dog food, and gym membership take all of my money. I totally agree
The concept of the 9-5 workday was also popularized by a doctor on COCAINE who forced his residents to keep up with his pace. If you compare a medieval peasant in Europe to a modern american, the peasant worked only about half the time and paid 20% of the equivalent taxes.
No literally I’ve been feeling exactly like her. It sucks we need change, idk how ppl live honestly. Time just feels like its being wasted and for nothing
@@WamaziTech you either didn't understand the tik tok and atrioc's explanation of it or are blatantly being ignorant about it. It's not that she works 9-5, it's that 4 hours of her life are spent on the train getting TO her job. That's miserable. 12 hours of her life are just gone. And her job doesn't even pay enough to cover rising costs of living! Think about the situation some more
I do not get at all why she would get 'dunked' on. She was 100% right, and expressed herself both with words and emotion. Hope we all may live happly someday❤
We spend over 3 months sleeping (on a 'proper' sleep schedule) and over 3 months working each year. so less than half the year is "left" to us but which ends up going to making food, appointments, shopping, etc. Nobody's schedules ever line up right so you hardly see friends, family, or whoever. It's horrible.
I feel like everyone has had this "you work til you die" moment, not everyone has their 'crisis' publicized. I had mine driving home at 4am at a drive thru. Shes valid, and the resentment is undeserved.
Im 25 and my granpa worked 9 to 5. This allowed my granma to be stay at home, with a large house, raising 4 kids, and retiring at an appropriate age. Times have changed
I'm a 22 year old Gen Z kid. I work a grocery store job making not great money, but I can take days off whenever with no pay OR vacation days, I have sick pay, I have work insurance, I can set my own schedule, I'm chill with all of my coworkers and superiors, grocery shopping is easy because I just grab stuff after work and I live within 15 minutes of the place and the work is all labor with no qualifications needed. The job itself is pretty whatever, don't love or hate it, but I am so worried about looking for a different job or going back to school to work towards a career because of how chill everything is with my current work. Every one of my friends hates their job and the people they work with, they need more money or they decided halfway through college they want other things. Meanwhile basically my only complaint is I make like $500 a week if I bust ass. I realize my contentedness is very rare and I'm scared that putting in the work to get better pay or a better job will only make me unhappy. What do I do? Where do I go from here? I had one quarter of covid classes all online and it was terrible and a waste of $2000. Literally no option is a guarantee.
At 00:28 the train station footage used is of Luz Station in São Paulo, Brazil. It's architecture is very distinctive, and it's very iconic in the entire state of São Paulo, hence why I was able to identify it at a glace. It is crazy how this girl can get to work on time when she's crossing the continent and back! In short, Brazil mentioned. Keep up the good glarketing, Dr Carbonation(to be read with a jamaican accent)
What she is going through is the most normal thing in the world. We've (most of us) been there. The jump from school/university to real world is a hard one, and not one that you get much preparation for. I went from being able to sustain 4+ days training for my sport per week, to struggling to deal with 2. You do geniunely have the least time available than you've ever had in your life, probably at the same point you gain the most additional responsibilities to handle. I remember many times in my first 2 years of work asking "how does anyone get anything done when all the services you need are only open when you're at work?" Of course, for the most part, things get better. Like anything, with practice, you aclimatise to it. It doesn't mean it's not hard or emotional. If you are lucky you enjoy the work you are doing, but that is not a given. The realisation that you will never get the same holiday time again is a hard one. It's a painful part of growing up. It doesn't often get better, but you can learn to live with it and feel functional again.
I have a great idea: what if your employer had to pay for your commute as though it was working hours, because it might as well be. There would obviously be some logistical issues (how do you determine the length of a commute and make sure no one cheats the system) but it would help alleviate the problem and give companies an incentive to switch to work-from-home, where they wouldn't have the problem, or try to hire people who live closer, which would give employees more pricing power on wages due to reduced supply.
I personally enjoy the physical disconnect between my living space and recreation vs my office dedicated for work. Working from home feels pretty bad. That being said, I get the majority of work I need to do in a day done in 6 hours, but because I'm expected to work 8 hours, I usually feel like I'm spending 2 hours finding stuff to do. I've talked with a few other people in office jobs and they say they spend about half their time on their phone or a different monitor, but they still have good metrics and get their work done. There's no reason to have 8 hour shifts for some jobs when the workload can be completed in 4. People shouldn't need to "act" like they're busy at work; if they are not busy then they shouldn't need to be there.
It's insane and really sad that a pretty damn reasonable question raised of traditional work culture said in a way that didn't come off as entitled at all, rather it came off as genuine, is attacked in social media. Social media really is just cancer in a jar.
This actually made me so fucking angry... Everything she said is so god damn true it really hurts me to see people spew shit out their mouth by trying to dunk on her. Anyone who has spent 50+ hours a week working or working+commuting knows just how miserable living like that is. You have no time for anything, the mental drain is so bad even on your day off you don't feel like doing anything just so you can get more rest, just to do it all again on monday.
What a lot of people don't realize is a Job isn't "9 to 5", it's an entire days worth of work. Depending on how far away you live from your job, you could be forced to be awake at 6 or 7 am, and then getting home you'll get there around 6 or 7 pm, turning your work day from 8 hours to 10/12 Four of those hours are unpaid as well, not to mention you have to pay for a Bus pass or Gas to get to work, so you're actually losing money on top of wasting your time, not to mention car payments since you'll be using your car 5 days a week, oil and gas, also you better pray nothing breaks or that small minute amount of savings in your back pocket goes down the drain. Lets also not forget almost every office-job and blue collar worker is expected to "Constantly be looking out for that bigger fish", a job that somehow pays better, is closer, and has a better working environment than your current job, but because of that sentiment your job is aware you could quit at any time to go work somewhere better, so now they're treating you like disposable garbage because the cycle we're in constantly gives everyone Psychotic level trust issues. Lord forbid they just pay you a better wage to keep you around longer, that might actually make someone's day better and we can't have that.
i clicked on this video to see a guy get loud and rag on people, and instead i've both a) realized how easy it is to let prejudice unfairly lead to a warping of my vision of people and b) began introspecting on my life and choices and plans after college great video, not what i thought i was clicking on, but pleasantly surprised
I actually just got a job 2 weeks ago with a 40-50 minute commute through traffic wake up at 6:45 get home around 6:00. Im doing alright with the limited time monday-friday, but I def find myself thinking how its kinda fucked everyone just does this for the majority of their life and just deals with it.
Why do people hate her? She spent thousands of dollars to get a degree that’s landed her in a situation where she has like an hour of free time a day at best for barely even enough money to live on that leaves her exhausted and unhappy at the end of the day. Sounds like she’s living the disillusionment of the American dream being the first generation in America’s history to be worse off than their ancestors in almost every way. I’m with her, life kinda sucks right now and complaining shouldn’t make you a public enemy.
I had this exact experience my first year out of college. I got a job at an AD agency I always wanted to work at. I remember going to work in the morning while it was dark outside and not leaving work until it was dark outside again. My commute was also an hour or more, if you drive into Dallas for work you know what I’m talking about. The whole experience was mentally draining. I used to get home and just sit in the driveway like “this can’t be life.” I changed my entire career trajectory after that.
Bro I literally work an HVAC in the summer I was pulling 120 hours every 2 weeks I really feel for this woman not everybody's built for this even I am getting tired of this and I'm Mexican
People are idiots. This is why student loan forgiveness is forbidden in the US. "I DID IT, WHY CANT YOU?!?" - all the while ignoring all the new problems this generation has. When I was 19, I worked at McDonalds, minimum wage - and with a single roommate we afforded a brand new, 2 bedroom apartment, bottom floor with a sick ass pool and a great location. That same apartment, 15 years later is roughly $2000 a month and looks pretty damn rough. My son is 14 and Im constantly reminding him the times have changed and to not feel pressured to move out - stay at home and let us help you. When I was a kid if you didn't instantly move out you were a bum - NOT ANY MORE.
I mean...just because shit is especially rough for the younger generations doesn't justify a solution that would only make things worse for everyone, including the student loan borrowers. All "student loan forgiveness" would do is further hyper inflate the dollar as the US government would have to print more money and or raise taxes to make up for the loss in revenue. The problem is the massive corruption at play due to the relationship between colleges, predatory student loan lenders and the US government creating a pseudo subsidy through federal student loans (which only incentivizes schools to raise tuition to collect more federal loan money, pretty much the exact same problem medical insurance causes). If schools and private lenders were properly investigated and kept in check through laws/oversight (because if you are receiving federal tax dollars, you don't get to also claim to be a "private" entity protected from random federal investigations in my book) then a lot of positive change would come down the pipeline. Otherwise fine private lenders for their predatory practices and pass that money on to the people who took those loans so their victims could be made somewhat whole. Forgiving student loans doesn't do anything to these student loan predators and in fact only encourages further predation. Getting rid of federal student loans in their entirety would also solve quite a few problems, but I am willing to meet in the middle and just say that institutions that have students who receive federal loans should be periodically and randomly investigated to ensure the intuition cost is priced correctly.
It's like crab mentality. Things were shit for me, they should be shit for you. Fuck that! I feel like if we're not making things better for the next generation, we're failing in a way.
The problem with loan forgiveness is that it doesn't cure the SOURCE of the problem. Which is that school are able to charge ridiculously high price due thanks to the loan system (the more you can loan the highernthe school charges, easy money, easy debt slave)
His point about the cost of living rings very true at the moment, all of these older generations, eg. older millenials, gen X and boomers all have this mindset of "I did X, you have to as well" when they did it at a point where there was a guarantee that working 1 9-5 job 5 days a week will make ends meet and allow you to have a retirement plan and put money aside for furthing your personal life. I find it very strange that they refuse to note how times have changed, and that societal structures need to change along with them.
the answer: work 3 hours brain intensive work in the morning. 4 hours physical labour in the afternoon. The division of labour was a mistake. The human body and soul needs to do both.
She is saying the same thing that I feel everyday, she is so fucking right I have to wake up everyday at 7h30, I don't have breakfast, I just get ready and go to work at 8h because I take 2 hours to get to my job and my shift starts at 10am. I get off my shift at 7h48pm, the 48 is because that's the maximum amount of hours that my job can give me without having to pay extra. I still go to the gym in my way home, I spend an hour there, so I get home at almost 11pm. When I get home I have to take a shower, eat something and there's no time left, I need to sleep at least 7 hours and its never enough, I'm exhausted all the time bc I sleep late since I wanna do more shit with my day than just work and bed, I barely see my friends and the reason I'm still at the job is because they pay me really well and give me good benefits, I have not found a better one yet and it's even more difficult because I never went to college (basically never had reliable parents, shitty childhood and no home structure) Still, I barely can make rent, I barely scrap by with enough groceries while also taking care of my brother who is recovering from severe depression. I hate the grind culture, I hate how jobs explore you to the last of your energies, we technically have an union but the leaders aren't doing shit (I'm from Brasil and the current unions we have are mismanaged and almost worthless) I just have to suck it up and keep going but that shouldn't be the answer, that shouldn't the fucking case, fuck you if you think this girl is being dramatic or exaggerating, fuck you to hell and back
I completely agree with his assessment of physical versus thinking jobs. I worked at warehouses for years, and I could get through an 8-10 how day easily. Now I'm a software developer, and I go through 3-5 hours before I feel I need a long nap. And if I take that nap, good fucking luck getting me to be productive for the rest of the day
I always like rich bros solutions to problems lol 'become an entrepreneur' in today's market? Where basically every other small business goes bankrupt? What money should she use to start her business? Because all these rich fucks make sure 9-5 workers get paid the absolute minimum required for their survival "Move to the woods" again with what money? With those prices on land? Haven't BlackRock and Bill Gates already bought all the cheap land. I'm a truck driver who earns way over minimum wage, and I can't even afford to live alone without living paycheck to paycheck. And here comes the real fun part, being able to move out and live alone. Basically it means I have to work so much that I have to live in my truck 5 days a week, only so I can afford a small apartment for the weekend.
I'm in school rn and this is the thing that terrifies me most about adult life. I had a job that I went to after school and on weekends for like 2 weeks and during those 2 weeks I would come home and be incapable of forcing myself to do anything. I was lucky that a lot of teachers got sick in those 2 weeks and I didn't have almost any homework cuz I probably wouldn't have done it.
This makes me laugh at myself because I'm just like....I figured out how shitty this is looooong ago...so is it just that my dreams were already shattered in that realization that no one gets to just vacation and have tons of time for fun and hobbies unless they hit the jackpot, come from wealthy families or catch a huge break and get into some wonderful high paying job by chance....but in most cases it's just hard work and dedication and the daily grind and we just accept it or we dont make money and it's sad but it's just cold hard facts....so my starry eyed dreams of any of that were crushed by the corporate world that dominates our time and I found out so long ago that it doesnt phase me anymore and its kinda tragic that we all just accept this but I guess that's how you learn to manage your time/take self care days/prioritize your mental health/accept that this is life. I literally heard the other day that the average working adult gets thirty hours a week to do what they want....that's actually disgusting....and the article was making it seem like a good thing. We are all just doing the best we can in the rat race 🙄 I have always thought a four day work week would be better for everyone and no I dont mean the kind where you cram more hours of work into those four days to accommodate for the missing fifth day. Like...are we mad????!!! I'm talking about LOWERING THE 40 hrs. work week nationwide instead of lowering our expectations for our own lives.
I had a quant finance internship in New York and boy it felt soul sucking; a combination of extremely intense mental work and long hours made me have no energy to do anything despite there being so much opportunity for fun in NY city
I dont get why people are hating her, i was in a similar situation as hers, a 9 to 5 job first year out of college where the commute and traffic was so bad it would take me an hour and a half to two hours to get there and back, a few times it took 3 hours to get back cause of how bad traffic is where i am, and it was awful, by the end of the day all i wanted to do is lay in bed and go to sleep and on weekends i just didnt have the energy to go out because the idea of driving became so exhausting cause of those awful commutes, my life was literally wake up 3 hours before my shift get ready for work, go through an hour and a half at minimum commute feeling like i went through a battle everytime i got to work, work for 8 hours staring at a computer all day, go back home going through a 2 hour commute and just crash in bed, without having any ebergy to do anything else like go to the gym or cook a nice healthy meal, after 1 year of doing this i just quit and now i've been working as an artist and never been happier and found more success than i couldve ever imagined if i stayed at that job. Ps: i even calculated how much time i was wasting every year waiting in traffic to get to that job, and it literally added up to a full month of time just waiting in traffic
Poor girl, she really is voicing the frustration of a generation. It's how I feel too. Life isn't meant to be spent slaving away for the goals of others.
The last part of the video I completely agree with. Everything is so expensive it feels impossible to ever own a home. I’m in a union job in DC but i live an hour away on a good day but with traffic it turns into a 2-3 hour commute. Also it is show business so I don’t work a 9-5 so I can’t always take the train or catch rides with coworkers. The worst part is I don’t mind the train at all but if I end up working later then the last train home I up shit creek without a paddle
Everyone always brags about how "I'm running on 2 hours of sleep bro" like stfu that's bad for you. The looks in their faces when I react like they just smoked a pack of cigarettes is priceless.
I completely feel this at my 9-5. Been there for 2 years, and I’ve not made a single friend in the town I moved to for work. If I didn’t have friends who like to hang out online, I’d go insane
I worked in a 9-5 job for 3 months last year where it took me 15 minutes via the tram to arrive to my job, but I would walk home for 35-40 minutes just to vent my head after work.
One of the best things my job did during covid was to tell us that "just because we always did it this way" is no longer a good excuse and its time to change up our processes.
She's completely right. How could anyone hate her?
People on the internet hate women.
People love to take hot stinky dumps on gen z complaining. Even if it is completely reasonable, if you are young then people never take you seriously
I feel the same way. Didn't want to say anything when those around me talked about it since they just wanted to insult her instead of thinking about her message (tbf she was having a breakdown so yeah).
People have convinced that the current system is fine. So they demonize anyone that complains.
@@skifzz1 exactly, these boomers worked at michaels craft store and could still afford a house while this girl works a decent 9-5 with 4 hour commute and has to rent a 1 bed. these old people are so unreasonable sometimes. people are working GOOD jobs and still living poorly. she has a degree she went to college and still is living poorly. it makes no sense she got hate.
She seems so nice nooo, the fact that she said “I know it could be worse” like we are conditioned to want to accept shitty ass schedules everything she said was completely accurate lol
Right? I really liked her honesty, even throwing in she's also on her period so that's why she's a mess about it. I felt like, yeah she might be a bit emotional and all but I agree with her too.
right?? I didn't find her annoying at all, I actually really thought it was heart-wrenching, the pain she was going through
The worst part is, if you do have a more flexible schedule even if you are working the same hours as before. You get punished for it.
Same job, same work hours, maybe a bit easier because of a flexible schedule, financial punishment.
(Which this is the true reason why women make less, they are more prone to take the more flexible schedule. A person crunched all the numbers and got the Nobel prize from wish because of it. )
@@user-th1pv6ks5odamn. I work on Korea and its not even that bad. The company doesn't care about working hours, they only care about result. Which is good I supposed compared to being forced at a fixed schedule.
Ugly People just hate when pretty people complain how tough their lives are. She can totally marry and retire any time ahe wants, but most of the commennters are stuck in rat race until they die
It's genuinely weird to see how many people are so resistant to change. The mentality of "I went through x garbage thing so everyone else should too" is shockingly prevalent.
I get less empathetic every time I see Martha the Boomer or John from Gen X say this shit. And it's not like there's plenty of bootlickers in my own generation.
I think it has to do with how people were taught how “work” should feel like. I don’t know about other countries in the world but in the US some people have a mentality of not of a worker but a temporary embarrassed millionaire. Where they believe in meritocracy and instead of blaming a system for causing many of these problems it’s better to take out the individual that is just part of the system. That way it doesn’t threaten the system while feeling like change is taking place. “Having the feeling of change with no change” as I would like to put it. People in the US have always been more “conservative”. Just a small analysis on my part.
It’s the same way with student loans
its 100% boomers and suck-ups. "Things were bad in my day and you should have to put up with it too"
Yeah how about no. Productivity has 10X'ed since the 70s and wages have barely moved.
It’s like saying we shouldn’t try to develop a cure for cancer because Bill from Nebraska had to get chemo
So im a 20 year old male that has been in the work force for a little bit. My first real job was at a plumbing company as a helper, and after i was let go, trying to find another job after that was damn near impossible. I applied to over 100 companies all in my area, and several of them were remote as well. Only recently did i finally find a job after like 4 months of searching. And i agree with her full heartedly. I get to work and clock in at 9, after i ly being awake for maybe an hour at most, i do my little front of house shenanigans at a fast food place, and i get home by 5:30 pm. I then don't have the energy to do anything i feel like id like to do, and it sucks. I dont hate the job, even as an introvert, i just wish there was more freedom in my day to day
Power pfp??
This is how I feel as a cook who mid 20s been here years, I don't hate it but it is work
Power pfp👌
@@user-th1pv6ks5o im not sure if its a genuine question but yeah its power. im not sure who the artist is since ive had this picture for like 2 years now
eat regularly and enough quality food, do excersice when you can without over doing it, get enough sleep everyday, socialise regularly without letting it disrupt you schedule and get some sunlight everyday. Don't drink or smoke everyday, if you drink 2 times per week is the limit to be sustainable. if you do this consistently for a year you will have energy after work. if you are still having energy issues go to the doctor, probably there is a problem with you diet or you have some sort of fatigue condition. you shouldn't be tired after an 8 hour shift. thats not normal.
It's pretty tragic that an emotional young woman can point out how awful the system is, yet, because she is an emotional young woman, people are shitting on her even though she is more correct than most of them ever will be
It's terrible, but it's been that way for a long long time, and even more depressingly, it will probably continue to be that way if not worse, for even longer.
I.....dont rly think masogony is the main thing to take away from here.......but yes she is 100 percent correct.
@@MrMango-fz6uf misogyny (and ageism tbf) is definitely one of the major things to take away from this. a huge amount of the backlash is specifically because shes a young woman. its especially obvious in matt walsh's response, which is to be expected, but plenty of the other responses shown in the video were also laden with sexism
@@MrMango-fz6uf It is not the main thing I am taking away here, also I am not entirely talking about misogyny, it is also partly that she is young, and partly because she is emotional in the video. Misogyny is only about a quarter of what I talked about, maybe even less
@@christopherthompson5400 This is humanity, so long as there are differences between people, unfortunately people will continue to discriminate. However, if things do get worse, it would likely be in specific areas at specific times rather than things universally getting worse everywhere.
i work 8-5, i get a 1 hour lunch, i leave early if its quiet (salaried, doesn't hurt the checks) and I live 10 mins away from work. I am like BEST case scenario for the "9-5 work life" and it still sucks ass, 4 10 hour days would be 100x better, 5 days a week is brutal, that girl is 1000000000000000% justified
my friend's work just switched them from 3 days 12 hours a week to 5 days 8 hours a week... :(
@@tortillachips3911Nooo wth, I feel for him
Also just looking at society in general, we have gotten so much more productive in general, we get so much more work done with less hours put in. There is no reason to still be working 40 hours a week, except none of that increase in productivity has given the workforce any benefit.
I'm in pretty much the same situation as you, a best case scenario for 9-5, hell even working from home most of the time, and it's still miserable. No free time except for 2 weekend days and no realistic perspective of buying a house in the next 5 years at the least. Gen Z is completely justified in being doomers about the economy
same, but im not salaried. but i still take off early sometimes cause id rather jerk off at home than jerk off at work.
in my opionion we should just cut down the 40 hour week to maybe 35 or even 30, with the same pay or more.
as atrioc said in the video. You are more productive if you get less hours to do something so you cant fill the rest of the time with unnecessary tasks.
say a 6 hour a day 4 or 5 days a week. Keeping the same pay. Companies might even see an increase in productivity. While a 6 hour day is much more managable than an 8 hour day.
make that remote as well and you got the best case scenario
She just recognises the ridiculousness of the work structure. She's absolutely right. People are just too subservient to their corporate overlords to recognise what she did.
Anecdotally, I don't think it's necessarily that "people are just too subservient to their corporate overlords". I feel like the impression I get is that most people just genuinely do not give serious critical thought towards the things they experience and don't even consider that what they're doing might be inefficient, unnecessary, or broadly improvable, or they believe it simply cannot or will never be changed*.
IDK if I think that's better or worse, just my two cents.
some of the people dunking on her worked trash jobs but still got paid decently and bought a house and started a family. shes out of college with a good job and cant afford anything with zero time. how are people this unreasonable.
@@AndrewRKennyI mean you're right. People end up unconsciously defending their corporate overlords because of their initial resistance towards the unknown/change. Of course Media figures like Matt Walsh isn't included in this. Those shitty pundits know what they're doing and they're entirely anti-labour.
The way people are so beaten down and brainwashed by corporate work culture is so pathetic but also sad. I see it online and I saw it when I was still working in the office. I remember once one of my co-workers complaining and they literally said they were afraid to rock the boat because they could be fired just like that. And like, we aren't burger flippers, we worked a white collar office job. A job where it would have cost the company easily $10,000 minimum in order to get a new employee to the point where they could start being trained to be a replacement.
It's crazy to me how people have this slave driven mentality instilled into them. Where they think they have no rights. Where they're afraid to ask for a raise, or to say no to overtime, or even to tell co-workers they don't like to fuck off. And then they blame someone or something else for the state of their circumstances, as if they have absolutely no input or agency whatsoever.
Where does it even come from? They can't ALL be former video game developers, right?
Blasphemy, all hail lord Bezos
I cant believe these people are like, "Omg, I had to work in these bad environments, so you should too."
What about feet binding? Or slavery?
"Back in my day we had polio and smallpox"
Ok, should we bring them back too?
They’re small minded idiots
I mean, there's a non-zero amount of these boomer f*cks that would love for the return of things like that.
I'm pretty sure Matt Walsh thinks slavery is pretty dope, he already thinks 13 to 16 year old girls getting pregnant is pretty cool too.
L take, 9 to 5 is not comparable to oppressive slavery
How can anyone be upset at this? She Is speaking nothing but facts right there wtf
Come on. Working isn't that hard.
@@yeetboi268have you ever worked a job before, yeetboi
Agreed! Do not understand how any fellow 9-5'ers can feel anything but sympathy for her. Maybe the haters are more privileged with cushier gigs. In any case the stuff she is pointing out are factors in the increases we are seeing in depression, social isolation, financial stress, and declining birth rates.
@@yeetboi268 You might try getting a real job other than making worthless comments on youtube first before you say that
I personally worked 42069 hours a day right out of kindergarten until retirement at 80 years old, so I have no tolerance for anyone not doing the same.
The fact that she is being attacked by people because she is unable to simply have time for herself to cook herself a decent meal or simply socialized her friends is absurd.
What even more absurd is how her simple talking about how she feel is somehow being spin into a giant political debate.
What even more absurd than that is that there is genuinely people who never even met the struggle she has that is trying to dunk on her.
"I don't have time for dating"
"Get married and become a stay at home mom"
Common Matt Walsh L
Famous Nazi diaper fight organizer MAP Walsh with his common Ls in literally anything
(I'm not making any of this up btw)
@@wumbojet wait i get it now! he thinks she should have gotten pregnant at 16 (the ideal age according to him) because she wouldn't have had to worry about work in the first place!
@@angrychickengod3831 I think 16 is too old for his liking, because he's also an advocate for arranging child marriages
tbh when matt walsh criticizes you your probably doing something right
@@wumbojet He at one point said we should treat 13 year olds like 23 year olds.
Now note this guy has kids. 🤮🤮 Those poor babies, may they not get pregnant at 16, and may they not get child married by M.A.P. Walsh at 13.
I hate the old school mentality, this "Well I did it so you have to do it too." 100% agree with her, 4 hour commute takes so much of your life away. That is 20 hours a week lost that you will never get back. 20 hours of given away to a corporation because they get "warm feelings in their tummies", when you are in the office. If the CEO ain't in the office everyday neither am I.
Even punching just straight numbers, if you're losing 20 hrs a week, you're losing about 1040 hours in a year, meaning you've lost over a month during that year just to commuting. Now if you multiply that by 10, over the span of a decade, you'll lose over a year of your time that you'll never get back to just commute to your 9-5.
Dude how is everyone dunking on her? She is saying what we all have experienced and thought.
the people who are attacking her are definitely projecting
That's how they get us
It boils down to a lack of empathy. That's why you see a lot of "I had to do it, so you should, too" mentalities. They absolutely do not care or factor in other people in their decision making at all.
the moment Big A showed a tweet from Matt Walsh trying to dunk on her I knew exactly what kind of people were hating on her and give her my full support
It's a major lack of empathy, 100%. It seems that many people want others to struggle as much as they did or have similar hardships as they did around the same age, all the while benefitting from prior progress to make the workplace a better environment for the workers such as when the shift to a standardized 8 hour work day occurred.@@IAmSilverlined
I don't get the controversy, she's right. I've been working for nearly 30 years now, starting from the service industry to corporate and now home-based. The hours can get crazy that you can't do anything else and when the weekend comes, you just want to go to bed and sleep until Monday rolls again. I did the grind, worked 6 days a week, averaging 14 - 16 hours a day for more than a decade as a corporate lackey. The pay was good but screwed up everything else. I remember even wishing I could go back to my first job with the terrible pay but lighter workload. Snowflake? Fck that.
Aw man I remember how miserable I was the first time I was introduced to 9-5. I was interning for a company that had a factory way out of town and had to get up super early, commute by bus and would reach back super late. I'd work for 8 hours and be commuting for 4 more. I remember being similarly frustrated. Not having time, energy or mindset to do anything. What that girl said is what all of us at one point went through. Dont see why she should be hated or called a snowflake for that. Its not like shes showing a lack of self awareness.
Right now I'm working a job in a frozen warehouse (-20 degrees) that is five 12 hour shifts with two days off. That doesn't take into account any commute time. So I wake up at 430 am to get ready for work at 6am, and I don't get home until 630 pm most days. My girlfriend already made dinner for her and her kid well before I got home, so by the time I change clothes and eat dinner, I have around 2 hours per day to unwind before I have to go to bed to get like 7 hours of sleep. Not really possible to get anything done on days I work. And I'm sure you can imagine what days off look like: grocery store trips, mowing the yard, doing laundry, paying bills, doing dishes, etc... Where the fuck is there any time to actually find any joy in life? I can play video games for like 3 hours a week. Am I supposed to be content with that until it's time to retire? Not even mentioning the amount of times I've gone in on my days off just because we were a little too close on bills for the month. This shit is absolutely untenable and I'm about to sell everything I own and move to the middle of the woods like fucking Matt Walsh suggested.
@@mrb6206Jesus christ dude, I'm 20 and in university right now and i think if I end up in your situation after graduating I'm just offing myself, that is not a fulfilling life. Hope something changes for you brother, wish you and your family all the best
@@mrb6206respectfully why doesn't your girlfriend have dinner made for you when you get home? You just worked 12 hours. That's ridiculous.
Maybe I could have been more clear. She makes dinner for the three of us, but by the time I get home they have already eaten and my food is cold, so I have to warm it up and eat it when I get home. Which makes even more sense with the added context that she works at 4 am and is in bed by 7 most days, so pushing their dinner time back isn't exactly feasible.@@goelalphonz8798
it stems from a lack of education on how to live a sustainable life. the hours aren't the problem.
Erik did an excellent job on the editing today. I REALLY loved the pop up bubbles for the chat messages Atrioc is reading. That was super high quality.
I find it insane that people hate on someone because they don't have free-time, whilst trying to stay independent and live her life alone, and it's all to blame because of a work schedule
See that is the thing, all these young boys are crying, whining and b*tching about lonliness, and this girl speaks STRAIGHT FACTS on why so many people are lonely, and they hate???
If all these men were REALLY concerned with the dating crisis they would say, "go off queen you need to be available, and have time so I can hit that" but instead they sh*t on her. 🙄🙄
Perpetuating THEIR OWN struggles while doing so.
I really hope AI will replace all of us. That's the only solution at this point.
So we’re just gonna forget he deepfaked female streamers?
@@Duramaa yep
Ugly People just hate when pretty people complain how tough their lives are. She can totally marry and retire any time she wants, but most of the commennters are stuck in rat race until they die
“LMAO, SHE ISNT NUMB TO OUR SHIT WORKING CONDITIONS AND IT ACTUALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, ENTITLED SNOWFLAKE!!!!”
She is right a 9 to 5 can be draining she has a right to express her pain its a good way to relieve stress.
Is stupid if you are doing that in the internet
@@eunn6949 You're right, she should just vent to her friends! Oh wait, she doesn't have time to see her friends...
@@FiishGamingeveryone can make time.
@@mrebear9758 did you not watch the video....... and no i dont ghive a shit what your parents did for you they were miserable and hopefully less bitter of ppl
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I have worked significantly longer hours for the past 7 years.
I usually finish around 8.00pm these days. When I first started it was closer to 10.00pm or midnight. I have never enjoyed the hours, but for me the income and stability of my job as a lawyer make it worth it for me. Many people work longer hours than I do and for less money. At the end of the day, I have to make a living (and so does every other adult).
So, from experience, I can say one can always make time if they're willing. Meet up with friends for drinks or dinner. Watch a film after work. Meet up for a run or swim during your lunch break. Get up early and do some exercise with someone. It's not that hard. You have more opportunities to be social because you have more money. Frankly, dating is much easier as well since most people at that stage of their lives are in the same boat.
Yes, long hours are exhausting and a shock to the system if you're not used to it but you should plan your life accordingly.
It's hard to find any corporate job where you can work as little as 9 to 5 these days. If you don't want to work those hours, consider becoming a teacher or a tradesperson. Of course, these lines of work have their own downsides.
Anyone who has worked a full-time job (ie most adults) can relate to the fatigue associated with that. But it's everyone's responsibility to plan their life around their priorities. You have to balance your level of interest in the work, with the stability of the job, your income and the amount of free time you will have. No one else will do that for you.
If Matt Walsh disagrees with you, you're very, extremely correct
@@Joem2648 Isn't it so fucking funny that conservatives call everyone snowflakes, yet conservatives are the ones offended by made up bullshit and/or the betterment of society?
@@Joem2648I take my misogynistic coworker's rants more seriously than Walsh, because they at least have an actual job.
"Don't like working 9 hours and commuting 3 hours everyday? Stop crying and toughen up, welcome to the real world princess" - Unemployed twitter user
The crazy thing is many of the people attacking her are enployed. But they get paid to write articles based on their feelings, not do much actual work, and occupy a higher income bracket. Working a 9-5 is a lot easier if your main contractual activity is dunking on college kids and you're making 200k or more a year. The amount of middle management telling hard working people to suck it up while simultaneously providing 0 productivity themselves is boggling.
9 to 5 for office/intellectual job is so draining, man.
After 6 hours I become brain dead and start either doing stupid shit or not being productive enough to my taste half of the time.
For having worked physical jobs most of my life, working 10 to 12 hours in the construction field a day, the big difference is that physical activity keeps you awake and ready for so much longer. The fatigue seeps in in a rush when you stop.
I always dreaded the moment I sat down at that time because I knew I would just drop from the stacked fatigue while relaxing.
Intellectual jobs to me seems to just keep pilling the fatigue through the day.
There are an incredible number of people who will aggressively dump on any idea that is even vaguely critical of the status quo of American capitalism, even if it's just boring, completely obvious stuff like "it sucks that it takes an hour to drive fifteen miles into the city." Why? Who knows. Some combination of "I suffered and turned out okay, therefore everyone else should suffer like I did," and just good old fashioned deference to authority. American cities are awful to commute through. People don't even want to acknowledge the alternatives and what's possible in part, I think, because of how painful it is to acknowledge how far behind this country is in terms of urban infrastructure.
It shouldn't be easy to drive into cities from suburbs
And then there's that whole BS conspiracy theory surrounding "15 minute cities". Lotta people seem to make it their life's calling to ardently embrace & defend the status quo 😒
I was watching her express the emotions all of us go through when entering the workforce and realizing how hard it is to balance work and making time for personal things, and it only dawned on me at the end of the video why this video would get hate. A lot of people struggle to empathize with others they see to be in an advantageous position, such as this pretty girl. It hit me like a wall of sad, realizing yet again that the internet is full of people lacking empathy. We gotta do our part to shut down that negativity, more empathy is needed.
Yeah, it's tough. My current boss makes my life extra unenjoyable which is great.
It feels like people are always looking for ways to take each other down in these moments but I think it would do a lot of good for people to be more empathetic towards each other.
My number 1 goal in life is to avoid the 9-to-5 slog. I don't want a house, I don't want a car, I don't want to be rich, famous or successful. I just want to be secure, comfortable and have time to do the things I want with the people I love. It's absolutely fucked that even this is somehow almost impossible for the vast majority of people. I'm in college right now and I've been thinking about this exact thing for a very long time. It's insane to me how few options you have when all I want is more free time and a livable wage. What's fucked is that if there was a button you could press to do it right now, it wouldn't even have any major negative consequences and I believe 99% of people would do it, but no, line has to go up so screw reality and the actual conditions of humans the line is supposed to be measuring.
Serious advice from someone who just graduated into the working world a few months ago; whatever it is you're doing in college, whatever you're doing in the degree every day is at least a rough example of what you will be doing in the working world every single day. Make sure to take the physical aspects of a job into account. I didn't and am paying for it with a job that requires me to sit in a windowless room and stare at a computer for 9 hours a day.
@@Ven-zg3fjThat seems like good advice. I'm currently studying Mathematics as a sort of stalling tactic (I do love it though). I still haven't decided exactly what I want to do, but I'm hopeful that a Maths degree is versatile enough to give me some decent options for the future.
Crab bucket mentality on full display from all those negative responses. Plus I think there's a really toxic undercurrent in our culture where people lean into hardship and treat it as proof of toughness. "I had to work long hours too and I sucked it up because I'm not WEAK like these kids who are asking for reasonable conditions!!" It's also cowardly: they find it too painful to face the fact that they live in a messed up world and had to do a messed up thing (because that's a criticism of the system, and their identity is tied up in tradition and pride with very little room to criticize the status quo), so they act like it was fine and you're the weak one for wanting change.
The brain rot from 10hr warehouse work is crazy. With paid and un paid breaks your looking at 11hrs at the warehouse, a 30 minute journey each way takes it to 12 hrs. Only 12 hrs left toa day, take away 8 for health sleep and you've got 4 hrs, some of which is then used to get yourself ready for work the next day. Pretty much makes you've existence just making millions for one man while you barely get enough to keep the place you spend the least amount of time in. Shits beyond fucked up.
I’m 19 and also have a two hour commute both ways from my full-time job and can confirm it has brought my soul to the tattered edge of sanity
BRO! Find a new job! JESUS! That is fucking killing you slowly!
Had a half hour commute to high school and I had a small mental breakdown junior year after I was asked to drive back to pick up my brother after I had just gotten back. The actual activities were perfectly fine, but the commute made me so unbelievably unhappy. She was absolutely right in the video, no if’s, and’s, or but’s.
Nothing wrong with that video, she's just being introduced to the bullshit 9-5 life the middle class live. Hopefully she gets into the groove of things or finds a better job that makes up for the grind.
as a raging misogynist myself i actually found myself agreeing with alot of her points
what da hell!
Bro same
lmfao
Ayo?
He a little confused, but he got the spirit
I got a full time job recently. I have a ton of hobbies and friends I try to keep up with as well.
I have to wake up at 6am, drive 40 minutes to my job, work till 3:30am, and drive 40 minutes back. I am gone for basically 10 hours. When I get home I have to worry about food, cleaning, hygeine, bills, etc. By the time everything is done I have very little time + energy to actually hang out with people and do any of my hobbies. The only time I do get to do all that is when I stay up late, sleep less than 8 hours, and then the whole process is worse. Existing just fucking sucks during that. I'm hunting for part time now because I would rather be poor and happy than "rich" and dead inside.
4:31 is literally everyone in my family and unsurprisingly they’re all miserable, mean and self centered ALL THE TIME.
the people who shit on this girl and say "i went through this and i am fine" are gonna be the people that say to a happy and smiling 12 year old "enjoy it while it lasts" while chuckling and smiling
I've never been more aggressive in my life than when I used to commute 2 hours a day for $15/hr. It made me a genuinely bitter and volatile person. Now that I work 4s and have a 15 minute commute, I might as well be Ghandi.
It’s easy to say in hindsight but I’m genuinely shocked that there was any negative reaction to this at all. I am constantly in awe by my parents’ ability to just clock into work, go home, sleep, and repeat. I’m 27 (graduated with my bachelors at 22) and can 100% relate to her stress and anxiety. You feel like you did everything correct and your reward is a lifetime of slave labor to make ends meat.
She's a young girl. I think anyone in a middle to low class situation has felt this way at some point. Give her a break.
Old people out there gatekeeping suffering and theyre the only ones in office
It’s crazy people would disagree or hate on her like we all collectively agree that this system is ass.
And any old head that is hating saying they did their time isn’t thinking about the time they lost with their kids, or a single person who could’ve found a partner, or someone who could’ve had a puppy to raise and love.
I seriously despise the Twitter hate crowd go to a therapist.
In my experience, therapists are the ones promoting this "don't think about others", "don't try to change anyone's life but your own", "Life's ABSOLUTELY in YOUR OWN hands!" way of thinking that leads to people saying "I had to go through that too. Get over it" and other despicable verbal garbage
Yeah, too many therapists are very anti collective. They simplify the world for their patients to make it easier to feel better about it. No therapist is going to say you’re depressed because of capitalism, even though that’s the major reason for most of it imho.
This summer was the first time i was working a true 9 - 5 corporate engineering internship / job. I was 13 min drive away from where I worked and it was engineering at a pharma company so the money was nice for an intern. But i also felt this same dread, looking at giving up the next 1/3 of my work week and ~1/4 of my whole life just felt insane. I was so unmotivated to do my work at this job and it almost felt like i dont know what do to. I still feel passion about what i want to do and im in the fortunate postion where ill likly be able to by something like a house in the next 3 - 5 years out of college but it still just felt so wack. I am a person who really enjoys being in office and working with my team in person but it feels as though something has to give. I wont be able to have the time i want for myself, be happy in what im doing, earn what i feel im worth, or be close enough to my work. It instantly made me feel that i need to look for change. Europe just looks so enticing with less commute time more vaction days among other issues. Its just a hard time to be starting your life in america, all it feels like is scary and all anyone older than be wants to say is shut up, it just sucks get use to it. Its just sad and we need change.
I totally feel for her. I love my job, work from home, and even I sometimes feel like I don’t have time or energy to get anything outside of work done. Especially in my old apartment - the nearest coffee shop was 45 minutes away on foot. If I wanted to leave my apartment, I basically had to either uber or bus. And so I spent all my time inside.
Biggest life improvement I’ve made is moving to a new apartment that’s 5 minutes away from a bunch if coffee shops, restaurants and grocery stores. Just being able to pop around the corner and grab lunch, or a couple of ingredients for dinner is so refreshing after feeling like a hermit for the past 3 years.
My least liked thing about "in office" work was the meetings where half the people are in the office and the other half were working from home, especially when the upper management were the people who rarely came into the office if at all. Made us not want to go in because if the higher ups dont have to why do we.
I've been resisting 9 to 5 pretty much since I got in. I've quit 'great' corporate jobs a couple times to try figure things out. Just wanted to share that I got so relieved when Brandon said u can't put in more than 3-4 hours/day into cognitively demanding work, because that's what I have been averaging during this last year as I was running on savings to transition into coding (see if 9to5 coding is more fun than 9to5 management, even at the cost of the transition). The point is I have been so ashamed to be able to work only 15 hours a week, when I 'should' be studing and coding for fkn 40-60 hours a week. And we call that gap procrastination.. I am proud and I stand by the path I took.. can't say I have much to show for it so far.. for sure not money, and often not even 'happiness' (which is what hurts me the most) since pressure on mental health when u're outside the 'status quo' is real (at least for me).. But here I am, being part of this change Brandon's talking about and, I want to believe, I am wiser and wiser every year which I'll continue to transfrm into wellbeing. We need more conversations like this and more wisdom/ better mental health, I think should be humanity's bigest prio by far, way more than climate or anything else.. Richest countries seem to be the unhappiest, at least relative to resources available.
Holly shit what a messy rant hahaha.
We fkn got this, tho.. ez
I'm in college and like, the idea of a standard 9-5 every day no lie makes me want to just game over. I don't know how I'm going to do it
I absolutely agree with her, I’m in a position where I adore my job but the commute is so hard. It’s way too expensive to live in the city so I have an hour’s worth commute via train.
An hour itself isn’t the worst but what makes it worse is that I have to get up an hour before hand to get ready, I have to factor in the time to get to the train station, I then have to factor in the walk to my work building.
On top of that once I finish work, by the time I get home? I’m still working. The fact I’m expected to take home work with me, to work when I should be having time to decompress is insane. And even then the times I don’t I’m still exhausted. It upsets me I can’t hang out with my small group of friends, it upsets me I can’t partake in hobbies I enjoy because I’m just empty when I get home.
Then it’s just the same thing over and over again every single day. I get to maybe enjoy a weekend once and awhile when I’m not being stacked up to my eyes in work still.
It’s not even a 9 to 5 at this point it becomes almost a 24/7 thing unless you’re sleeping. It’s not an effective way to live.
So Gen Z is getting into work now and experiencing what we as millenials did and the generations before us.... there's absolutely nothing to disagree with with what she says.... i've experienced the exact same thing and burned out almost a decade ago and through pure luck was i able to find a job that now actually fulfills me which i know is a giant privilege that most people don't have... the misogyny is crazy... she isn't weak... she isn't wrong.... she isn't a snowflake...
i just hope Gen Z will do better and be able to change things.... 4 days work weeks are already finding some traction and more and more people are looking for places with good work culture and benefits rather than places with high pay or prestige.... maybe at some point most people will actually like their jobs rather than die inside doing them
The thing is gen z owns none of the capital. The people who established this problematic power structure are the ones most capable of changing it. Proportionally, from oldest to youngest generations, are the exact groups of people who are going to be most capable of reforming everything, and simultaneously the most jaded and least likely to care.
@@christopherthompson5400 Or put simpler, the ones capable of changing it are the ones who are actively benefiting from it in the first place, so why would they?
@@SeeMyDolphin
The class struggle is real
@@christopherthompson5400Well, some gen z have capital. They’re typically tech bros who have a puddle deep understanding of the humanities. This is how it’s always been though.
I totally agree with her. I’m in the same boat, just graduated in May and now working 8-5. It was totally a shock at first but I’m getting more used to it slowly. I also rent and have no spending money. Insurance, IRA, rent, groceries, dog food, and gym membership take all of my money. I totally agree
The concept of the 9-5 workday was also popularized by a doctor on COCAINE who forced his residents to keep up with his pace. If you compare a medieval peasant in Europe to a modern american, the peasant worked only about half the time and paid 20% of the equivalent taxes.
No literally I’ve been feeling exactly like her. It sucks we need change, idk how ppl live honestly. Time just feels like its being wasted and for nothing
On a serious note I’m so happy to have guys like atrioc call out misogyny when they see it. People shit on her because she is a woman.
Agreed. It's sad, though, how someone in Atrioc's position calling out misogyny is so rare that it's deserving of this much praise.
No, I just disagree because she makes it seem like her life is so hard. A 9-5 job where u usually have the weekends off isn't really all that bad.
@@WamaziTech you either didn't understand the tik tok and atrioc's explanation of it or are blatantly being ignorant about it. It's not that she works 9-5, it's that 4 hours of her life are spent on the train getting TO her job. That's miserable. 12 hours of her life are just gone. And her job doesn't even pay enough to cover rising costs of living! Think about the situation some more
Women wanted this, and this is where we are
@@MrJingles7091 Welcome to society.
The only thing she is guilty of is noticing the cage that we were all born into
I do not get at all why she would get 'dunked' on. She was 100% right, and expressed herself both with words and emotion. Hope we all may live happly someday❤
We spend over 3 months sleeping (on a 'proper' sleep schedule) and over 3 months working each year. so less than half the year is "left" to us but which ends up going to making food, appointments, shopping, etc. Nobody's schedules ever line up right so you hardly see friends, family, or whoever. It's horrible.
I feel like everyone has had this "you work til you die" moment, not everyone has their 'crisis' publicized. I had mine driving home at 4am at a drive thru. Shes valid, and the resentment is undeserved.
Im 25 and my granpa worked 9 to 5. This allowed my granma to be stay at home, with a large house, raising 4 kids, and retiring at an appropriate age.
Times have changed
I'm a 22 year old Gen Z kid. I work a grocery store job making not great money, but I can take days off whenever with no pay OR vacation days, I have sick pay, I have work insurance, I can set my own schedule, I'm chill with all of my coworkers and superiors, grocery shopping is easy because I just grab stuff after work and I live within 15 minutes of the place and the work is all labor with no qualifications needed.
The job itself is pretty whatever, don't love or hate it, but I am so worried about looking for a different job or going back to school to work towards a career because of how chill everything is with my current work. Every one of my friends hates their job and the people they work with, they need more money or they decided halfway through college they want other things. Meanwhile basically my only complaint is I make like $500 a week if I bust ass.
I realize my contentedness is very rare and I'm scared that putting in the work to get better pay or a better job will only make me unhappy. What do I do? Where do I go from here? I had one quarter of covid classes all online and it was terrible and a waste of $2000. Literally no option is a guarantee.
At 00:28 the train station footage used is of Luz Station in São Paulo, Brazil. It's architecture is very distinctive, and it's very iconic in the entire state of São Paulo, hence why I was able to identify it at a glace. It is crazy how this girl can get to work on time when she's crossing the continent and back!
In short, Brazil mentioned. Keep up the good glarketing, Dr Carbonation(to be read with a jamaican accent)
That's why we do remote work twice a week because majority of the job can be done at home and we are more productive at home than in the office
What she is going through is the most normal thing in the world. We've (most of us) been there. The jump from school/university to real world is a hard one, and not one that you get much preparation for. I went from being able to sustain 4+ days training for my sport per week, to struggling to deal with 2. You do geniunely have the least time available than you've ever had in your life, probably at the same point you gain the most additional responsibilities to handle. I remember many times in my first 2 years of work asking "how does anyone get anything done when all the services you need are only open when you're at work?" Of course, for the most part, things get better. Like anything, with practice, you aclimatise to it. It doesn't mean it's not hard or emotional. If you are lucky you enjoy the work you are doing, but that is not a given. The realisation that you will never get the same holiday time again is a hard one. It's a painful part of growing up. It doesn't often get better, but you can learn to live with it and feel functional again.
I have a great idea: what if your employer had to pay for your commute as though it was working hours, because it might as well be. There would obviously be some logistical issues (how do you determine the length of a commute and make sure no one cheats the system) but it would help alleviate the problem and give companies an incentive to switch to work-from-home, where they wouldn't have the problem, or try to hire people who live closer, which would give employees more pricing power on wages due to reduced supply.
I personally enjoy the physical disconnect between my living space and recreation vs my office dedicated for work. Working from home feels pretty bad.
That being said, I get the majority of work I need to do in a day done in 6 hours, but because I'm expected to work 8 hours, I usually feel like I'm spending 2 hours finding stuff to do. I've talked with a few other people in office jobs and they say they spend about half their time on their phone or a different monitor, but they still have good metrics and get their work done. There's no reason to have 8 hour shifts for some jobs when the workload can be completed in 4. People shouldn't need to "act" like they're busy at work; if they are not busy then they shouldn't need to be there.
It's insane and really sad that a pretty damn reasonable question raised of traditional work culture said in a way that didn't come off as entitled at all, rather it came off as genuine, is attacked in social media. Social media really is just cancer in a jar.
This actually made me so fucking angry... Everything she said is so god damn true it really hurts me to see people spew shit out their mouth by trying to dunk on her. Anyone who has spent 50+ hours a week working or working+commuting knows just how miserable living like that is. You have no time for anything, the mental drain is so bad even on your day off you don't feel like doing anything just so you can get more rest, just to do it all again on monday.
100% agree
What a lot of people don't realize is a Job isn't "9 to 5", it's an entire days worth of work.
Depending on how far away you live from your job, you could be forced to be awake at 6 or 7 am, and then getting home you'll get there around 6 or 7 pm, turning your work day from 8 hours to 10/12
Four of those hours are unpaid as well, not to mention you have to pay for a Bus pass or Gas to get to work, so you're actually losing money on top of wasting your time, not to mention car payments since you'll be using your car 5 days a week, oil and gas, also you better pray nothing breaks or that small minute amount of savings in your back pocket goes down the drain.
Lets also not forget almost every office-job and blue collar worker is expected to "Constantly be looking out for that bigger fish", a job that somehow pays better, is closer, and has a better working environment than your current job, but because of that sentiment your job is aware you could quit at any time to go work somewhere better, so now they're treating you like disposable garbage because the cycle we're in constantly gives everyone Psychotic level trust issues.
Lord forbid they just pay you a better wage to keep you around longer, that might actually make someone's day better and we can't have that.
i clicked on this video to see a guy get loud and rag on people, and instead i've both
a) realized how easy it is to let prejudice unfairly lead to a warping of my vision of people and
b) began introspecting on my life and choices and plans after college
great video, not what i thought i was clicking on, but pleasantly surprised
I actually just got a job 2 weeks ago with a 40-50 minute commute through traffic wake up at 6:45 get home around 6:00. Im doing alright with the limited time monday-friday, but I def find myself thinking how its kinda fucked everyone just does this for the majority of their life and just deals with it.
Shes doing 2 hours both ways thats insane, maybe thats why im doing alright and im not on tik tok in tears myself lmfao.
Istg I’m so happy seeing this type of class conscious content around
Why do people hate her? She spent thousands of dollars to get a degree that’s landed her in a situation where she has like an hour of free time a day at best for barely even enough money to live on that leaves her exhausted and unhappy at the end of the day. Sounds like she’s living the disillusionment of the American dream being the first generation in America’s history to be worse off than their ancestors in almost every way. I’m with her, life kinda sucks right now and complaining shouldn’t make you a public enemy.
She was so real
I had this exact experience my first year out of college. I got a job at an AD agency I always wanted to work at. I remember going to work in the morning while it was dark outside and not leaving work until it was dark outside again. My commute was also an hour or more, if you drive into Dallas for work you know what I’m talking about. The whole experience was mentally draining. I used to get home and just sit in the driveway like “this can’t be life.” I changed my entire career trajectory after that.
Bro I literally work an HVAC in the summer I was pulling 120 hours every 2 weeks I really feel for this woman not everybody's built for this even I am getting tired of this and I'm Mexican
4:06 POLAND MENTIONED!!!!
People are idiots. This is why student loan forgiveness is forbidden in the US. "I DID IT, WHY CANT YOU?!?" - all the while ignoring all the new problems this generation has. When I was 19, I worked at McDonalds, minimum wage - and with a single roommate we afforded a brand new, 2 bedroom apartment, bottom floor with a sick ass pool and a great location. That same apartment, 15 years later is roughly $2000 a month and looks pretty damn rough. My son is 14 and Im constantly reminding him the times have changed and to not feel pressured to move out - stay at home and let us help you. When I was a kid if you didn't instantly move out you were a bum - NOT ANY MORE.
I mean...just because shit is especially rough for the younger generations doesn't justify a solution that would only make things worse for everyone, including the student loan borrowers. All "student loan forgiveness" would do is further hyper inflate the dollar as the US government would have to print more money and or raise taxes to make up for the loss in revenue.
The problem is the massive corruption at play due to the relationship between colleges, predatory student loan lenders and the US government creating a pseudo subsidy through federal student loans (which only incentivizes schools to raise tuition to collect more federal loan money, pretty much the exact same problem medical insurance causes).
If schools and private lenders were properly investigated and kept in check through laws/oversight (because if you are receiving federal tax dollars, you don't get to also claim to be a "private" entity protected from random federal investigations in my book) then a lot of positive change would come down the pipeline.
Otherwise fine private lenders for their predatory practices and pass that money on to the people who took those loans so their victims could be made somewhat whole. Forgiving student loans doesn't do anything to these student loan predators and in fact only encourages further predation. Getting rid of federal student loans in their entirety would also solve quite a few problems, but I am willing to meet in the middle and just say that institutions that have students who receive federal loans should be periodically and randomly investigated to ensure the intuition cost is priced correctly.
Speaking facts bro, thank u for ur story
It's like crab mentality. Things were shit for me, they should be shit for you.
Fuck that! I feel like if we're not making things better for the next generation, we're failing in a way.
The problem with loan forgiveness is that it doesn't cure the SOURCE of the problem. Which is that school are able to charge ridiculously high price due thanks to the loan system (the more you can loan the highernthe school charges, easy money, easy debt slave)
@@chasewilson3693 orrrrrrr just forgive the student loans and see the economy even out from the newly edycated and not fucking broke workforce
His point about the cost of living rings very true at the moment, all of these older generations, eg. older millenials, gen X and boomers all have this mindset of "I did X, you have to as well" when they did it at a point where there was a guarantee that working 1 9-5 job 5 days a week will make ends meet and allow you to have a retirement plan and put money aside for furthing your personal life. I find it very strange that they refuse to note how times have changed, and that societal structures need to change along with them.
the answer: work 3 hours brain intensive work in the morning. 4 hours physical labour in the afternoon.
The division of labour was a mistake. The human body and soul needs to do both.
it gives “WHY ARE YOU BOOING ME IM RIGHT?” vibes
She is saying the same thing that I feel everyday, she is so fucking right
I have to wake up everyday at 7h30, I don't have breakfast, I just get ready and go to work at 8h because I take 2 hours to get to my job and my shift starts at 10am. I get off my shift at 7h48pm, the 48 is because that's the maximum amount of hours that my job can give me without having to pay extra. I still go to the gym in my way home, I spend an hour there, so I get home at almost 11pm. When I get home I have to take a shower, eat something and there's no time left, I need to sleep at least 7 hours and its never enough, I'm exhausted all the time bc I sleep late since I wanna do more shit with my day than just work and bed, I barely see my friends and the reason I'm still at the job is because they pay me really well and give me good benefits, I have not found a better one yet and it's even more difficult because I never went to college (basically never had reliable parents, shitty childhood and no home structure)
Still, I barely can make rent, I barely scrap by with enough groceries while also taking care of my brother who is recovering from severe depression. I hate the grind culture, I hate how jobs explore you to the last of your energies, we technically have an union but the leaders aren't doing shit (I'm from Brasil and the current unions we have are mismanaged and almost worthless)
I just have to suck it up and keep going but that shouldn't be the answer, that shouldn't the fucking case, fuck you if you think this girl is being dramatic or exaggerating, fuck you to hell and back
I completely agree with his assessment of physical versus thinking jobs. I worked at warehouses for years, and I could get through an 8-10 how day easily. Now I'm a software developer, and I go through 3-5 hours before I feel I need a long nap. And if I take that nap, good fucking luck getting me to be productive for the rest of the day
I always like rich bros solutions to problems lol
'become an entrepreneur' in today's market? Where basically every other small business goes bankrupt? What money should she use to start her business? Because all these rich fucks make sure 9-5 workers get paid the absolute minimum required for their survival
"Move to the woods" again with what money? With those prices on land? Haven't BlackRock and Bill Gates already bought all the cheap land.
I'm a truck driver who earns way over minimum wage, and I can't even afford to live alone without living paycheck to paycheck.
And here comes the real fun part, being able to move out and live alone. Basically it means I have to work so much that I have to live in my truck 5 days a week, only so I can afford a small apartment for the weekend.
Misery Loves Company...
Some people just come online and look for reasons to get angry I gave that shit up at 16 still grown ass men doing it smh
I'm in school rn and this is the thing that terrifies me most about adult life. I had a job that I went to after school and on weekends for like 2 weeks and during those 2 weeks I would come home and be incapable of forcing myself to do anything. I was lucky that a lot of teachers got sick in those 2 weeks and I didn't have almost any homework cuz I probably wouldn't have done it.
so when Dolly Parton says it she’s adored but when random tiktok girl says it she’s threatened for her safety? Smh internet! (joke)
Not to sound rude, but why is this a joke?
@@taelib1425 Dolly Parton’s song isn’t just “a 9 to 5 is unsustainable”. But yes don’t threaten the girl. that shit sucks
Makes sense, I don't listen to Dolly Parton so didn't know that was the joking part. Thanks@@smoov22_sonic
It's so funny to me when people say "I went through this so you should too" when they themselves are tired and bitter with bags in their eyes.
I had a minor mental breakdown after working my first 9-5 for about 3 months. Seems common.
This makes me laugh at myself because I'm just like....I figured out how shitty this is looooong ago...so is it just that my dreams were already shattered in that realization that no one gets to just vacation and have tons of time for fun and hobbies unless they hit the jackpot, come from wealthy families or catch a huge break and get into some wonderful high paying job by chance....but in most cases it's just hard work and dedication and the daily grind and we just accept it or we dont make money and it's sad but it's just cold hard facts....so my starry eyed dreams of any of that were crushed by the corporate world that dominates our time and I found out so long ago that it doesnt phase me anymore and its kinda tragic that we all just accept this but I guess that's how you learn to manage your time/take self care days/prioritize your mental health/accept that this is life. I literally heard the other day that the average working adult gets thirty hours a week to do what they want....that's actually disgusting....and the article was making it seem like a good thing. We are all just doing the best we can in the rat race 🙄 I have always thought a four day work week would be better for everyone and no I dont mean the kind where you cram more hours of work into those four days to accommodate for the missing fifth day. Like...are we mad????!!! I'm talking about LOWERING THE 40 hrs. work week nationwide instead of lowering our expectations for our own lives.
I had a quant finance internship in New York and boy it felt soul sucking; a combination of extremely intense mental work and long hours made me have no energy to do anything despite there being so much opportunity for fun in NY city
My friends went to college in NY briefly and it was assss
One of the pillars of a modern society is free time. This is what creates strength in the citizens.
Atrioc is for the people. I love how he is talking about people who are experiencing hardship that “shouldn’t be.” Thank you man.
Dude you're Sigma male segment was a wonderful demonstrtation as it was comical and eye-opening at the same time. damn.
I'd love to meet someone who hates her irl and have them explain what points she makes that they hard disagree with and why.
I dont get why people are hating her, i was in a similar situation as hers, a 9 to 5 job first year out of college where the commute and traffic was so bad it would take me an hour and a half to two hours to get there and back, a few times it took 3 hours to get back cause of how bad traffic is where i am, and it was awful, by the end of the day all i wanted to do is lay in bed and go to sleep and on weekends i just didnt have the energy to go out because the idea of driving became so exhausting cause of those awful commutes, my life was literally wake up 3 hours before my shift get ready for work, go through an hour and a half at minimum commute feeling like i went through a battle everytime i got to work, work for 8 hours staring at a computer all day, go back home going through a 2 hour commute and just crash in bed, without having any ebergy to do anything else like go to the gym or cook a nice healthy meal, after 1 year of doing this i just quit and now i've been working as an artist and never been happier and found more success than i couldve ever imagined if i stayed at that job.
Ps: i even calculated how much time i was wasting every year waiting in traffic to get to that job, and it literally added up to a full month of time just waiting in traffic
Poor girl, she really is voicing the frustration of a generation. It's how I feel too. Life isn't meant to be spent slaving away for the goals of others.
The last part of the video I completely agree with. Everything is so expensive it feels impossible to ever own a home. I’m in a union job in DC but i live an hour away on a good day but with traffic it turns into a 2-3 hour commute. Also it is show business so I don’t work a 9-5 so I can’t always take the train or catch rides with coworkers. The worst part is I don’t mind the train at all but if I end up working later then the last train home I up shit creek without a paddle
I think men have a major sense of pride in the amount suffering they go through for their job and think it’s a flex to tell everyone about it
Everyone always brags about how "I'm running on 2 hours of sleep bro" like stfu that's bad for you. The looks in their faces when I react like they just smoked a pack of cigarettes is priceless.
I completely feel this at my 9-5. Been there for 2 years, and I’ve not made a single friend in the town I moved to for work. If I didn’t have friends who like to hang out online, I’d go insane
Great edit very nicely done thankyou eriksenchee... and very interesting thought provoking discussion thank you atrioc
I worked in a 9-5 job for 3 months last year where it took me 15 minutes via the tram to arrive to my job, but I would walk home for 35-40 minutes just to vent my head after work.
One of the best things my job did during covid was to tell us that "just because we always did it this way" is no longer a good excuse and its time to change up our processes.