What is Tik Tok's "Girl Math"?

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  • @OtaconAmiibo
    @OtaconAmiibo Год назад +2414

    I do think a large part of Girl Math is general irony/humor as well as the mentality of “what’s the point of saving for a future that is not guaranteed.” Whenever I pay for anything in cash, that’s not real money because the banks don’t know about that.

    • @MaddyRose1998
      @MaddyRose1998 Год назад +298

      Absolutely, if I paid for something with the 20 I forgot I had in my wallet it’s basically free.

    • @BugCatcherGwen
      @BugCatcherGwen Год назад +109

      ​@@MaddyRose1998Yeah, that's why I stopped carrying cash. It felt free because I wouldn't account for it in my bank account. Now, I save money far better because I don't accumulate random cash and forget about it. Cash forgotten is cash lost unless you find it.

    • @dragon1512
      @dragon1512 Год назад +90

      why save for the future when i can just buy a $5,000 toaster for my $10,000 bath tub YEP

    • @Purriah
      @Purriah Год назад

      @@MaddyRose1998this checks out. One of my coworkers was in a precarious situation and I gave him $200 i had just sitting in cash app and he wouldn’t take it until I was like “yeah but I didn’t even know it was in there, I actually checked it for you”

    • @selearth3123
      @selearth3123 Год назад +24

      so real. and if i pay for something with card, it's free because i didn't physically hand anything over to the cashier.

  • @KeystoneAnglers
    @KeystoneAnglers Год назад +2089

    I don’t have a gambling problem I have a math problem.

    • @stevequack6923
      @stevequack6923 Год назад +12

      It’s me who has a gambling problem

    • @Luminousreign
      @Luminousreign Год назад +8

      Guy math really is just explaining why gambling is a problem.

    • @smitty99666
      @smitty99666 Год назад +7

      And I have a ripping people off addiction

    • @UtubeEnjoir
      @UtubeEnjoir Год назад +9

      I dont have a gambling problem gambling has a me problem

    • @kierancreighton96
      @kierancreighton96 Год назад +3

      If only 1970's wall street heard this

  • @DNeonLamp
    @DNeonLamp Год назад +1471

    "Boy math" is gamers buying Armoured Core before even finishing Bouldur's Gate, having upgraded their computer to be able to run them at specs they dont understand, still looking ahead to picking up Starfield, and having 200+ games in their Steam library they never installed after buying them in Summer Sales.
    They'll get through them eventually, it's just an investment.
    (note, just like girl math and men, boy math is absolutely also done by women)

    • @marcustecarro720
      @marcustecarro720 Год назад +146

      I've never been called out harder

    • @proredfly9410
      @proredfly9410 Год назад +17

      agreed although most do understand the specs lol

    • @CookieColt
      @CookieColt Год назад +25

      Man I have so many games off steam sales. And I realized after clocking a few hours here and there that I just loved the kick of buying a game. I didn't even enjoy games anymore as they felt more like chores or just downgraded versions of their former selves, graphics got better but gameplay got duller and more repetitive. When that hit me I just quit gaming altogether. It's been 3 years now, feels good man.

    • @K..C
      @K..C Год назад +7

      Humble Bundles absolutely ruined me, I have like 200 games I haven't even played once in my steam library

    • @pate7179
      @pate7179 Год назад +15

      I bought baldurs gate and clocked 100h on holocure and got 4 in bg

  • @AP-wc1kf
    @AP-wc1kf Год назад +737

    Imma tell my mom my C- minus is basically an A because I got ‘boy grades’ So basically it’s free grades

    • @atrioc
      @atrioc  Год назад +334

      based

    • @seantaylor8114
      @seantaylor8114 Год назад +165

      A C- is passing, so if you convert to a pass/fail, you passed, which is 100 percent, which is and A.

    • @codyhill2311
      @codyhill2311 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@seantaylor8114Yeah basically unless you're trying to get a scholarship or into a prestige College it's pretty worthless to try and get straight A's.

  • @Lekeing
    @Lekeing Год назад +654

    Due to inflation, girl dinner is now a piece of celery, and thinking about water

    • @lindseytaylor3793
      @lindseytaylor3793 Год назад +80

      i licked an apple for lunch today #girldinner

    • @K..C
      @K..C Год назад +24

      @@lindseytaylor3793 Eatin' Good Girl!!! The best I could get was sniffing my coworkers salad

  • @phenex5190
    @phenex5190 Год назад +405

    I lost it when the "Girl math" talkshow had a "Girl math" expert. Like they have the two hosts that talk to the guests and they have their "specialist" explain in girl math why it's free, hilarious
    Edit: NO SHOT they have MULTIPLE "girl math" specialists

    • @kevinplayslolalot
      @kevinplayslolalot Год назад +80

      The best part is in a later episode they have an actually economist come on and try to "debunk" girl math only for the girl math specialists justify the purchase. I think it's just a funny little segment that is blowing up to be more than just a bit at this point.

    • @Aritcheyy
      @Aritcheyy Год назад +12

      @@kevinplayslolalot Yeah the only problem is when instead of people seeing it as a bit they make it real and use it to justify spending money. Obviously it is not the people joking about its fault and it does not actually cause they person to do it. More just becomes some people hiding behind it as an excuse.

    • @donutreactions
      @donutreactions Год назад +1

      The game is rigged, there is no use playing it. Everything is free.@@Aritcheyy

  • @Pistolsatsean
    @Pistolsatsean Год назад +228

    The radio show hosts are actually so much funnier than the TikTokers

  • @maphay6992
    @maphay6992 Год назад +457

    As someone in gen z, my dislike of large corporations has nothing to do with the fact that I’m gaslighting myself into thinking spending 600 at the Lego store is fine

    • @Special3375
      @Special3375 Год назад +61

      The bionicles are not going to build themselves

    • @Trevorcraft71
      @Trevorcraft71 Год назад +27

      lego is justified every single time. im in that boat with ya my friend lmao

    • @markw1528
      @markw1528 Год назад +19

      the lego probably holds its value better tbh

    • @conallhirsch9372
      @conallhirsch9372 Год назад +6

      Lego is an exception

    • @Py687
      @Py687 Год назад

      Yeah just save your Legos for your kids to also play with

  • @baileyayyy5085
    @baileyayyy5085 Год назад +80

    "I'm using this 8 dollars I randomly found in my pocket so its basically like im not paying" is definitely my most common rationalization for unnecessary snacks when I'm high

  • @SenatorDodo09
    @SenatorDodo09 Год назад +117

    you gotta respect swift, theres no other fanbase that would spend $3k extra just for the secret surprise song at every concert, insane

  • @smolpener7430
    @smolpener7430 2 месяца назад +6

    Boy math is getting quoted $1200 for a repair, buying a tool for $200 to "do it yourself", fucking it up, returning the used tool, then paying $1800 because now they have to fix the thing you fucked up too.

  • @Mogswamp
    @Mogswamp Год назад +337

    He's all in on doge, she does girl math
    Can I make it any more obvious🎵

    • @LocalJon
      @LocalJon Год назад +6

      I see you everywhere Mog haha.

    • @esmeecampbell7396
      @esmeecampbell7396 Год назад +14

      Ah yes the two genders; Crypto coins and Swifty tickets

    • @t-caf5097
      @t-caf5097 Год назад +4

      I get what you were doing with the reference. SOLID!

    • @MilitaryMackes
      @MilitaryMackes Год назад

      woah!

    • @Bobin10101
      @Bobin10101 Год назад +1

      And together, they have no financial future

  • @picklenik9658
    @picklenik9658 Год назад +100

    The “guy gambling math” thing is too true.
    Like even if a guy loses or goes even (I’m guilty to doing this) we’ll say “well we just had two hours of fun at the blackjack table, so I didn’t even really lose.” Or the other classic “yeah tonight I’m down, but lifetime I’m still basically even” and my absolute favourite, it’s a very niche one “if you’re playing blackjack but not betting on lucky-lucky you’re just loosing out money at that point,“

    • @douggieharrison6913
      @douggieharrison6913 Год назад +13

      That last one is my fat guy logic when I see a combo meal or snack discount.
      Buy one get one free Big macs? I'm basically losing money if I don't buy at least 16

    • @Py687
      @Py687 Год назад

      Guilty of being even on my lifetime gambling tab 🙋‍♂️

    • @brandonmeens
      @brandonmeens Месяц назад

      Had a friend win less than the amount he even brought for the night on one machine, and he said holy shit I’m up in my career. Brother you won $150 and I watched you lose 100 on blackjack alone tonight what the fuck hahaha

  • @turnwheelman6375
    @turnwheelman6375 Год назад +41

    I literally just found out I had 2.5k in my Venmo for getting paid for food and shit over the last 4-5 years. Never felt so good to attach my bank account and move that shit in. That "free money" dopamine hit harddddd

  • @zazfish
    @zazfish Год назад +89

    if all of us atrioc viewers just start throwing bracelets at cashiers and running away, eventually people will just accept it as currency shes onto something here

    • @jcp1296
      @jcp1296 Год назад +2

      You fool, the braceflation is already in full effect, there's no need to print more just for a funny joke

    • @MrSqurk
      @MrSqurk Год назад +1

      I once got into a stupid debate with my friends. I was joking that I could reduce the amount of criminals by 90% in a single day by just getting rid of laws haha.
      This made one of my friends furious. He just couldn’t accept that if something is legal then the person isn’t a criminal.

  • @anoukk_
    @anoukk_ Год назад +49

    The energy/labor cost of a house not changing is true(in fact it probably goes down) but is missing how much the average person gets paid for their energy/labor. And when you look at the difference between those two it starts to be clear why people seem to be able to afford less and less.

    • @xxkildarxx
      @xxkildarxx Год назад +8

      Yeah he did kinda gloss right over that part. Which to me seems pretty key to the whole discussion.

    • @bonesaw1011
      @bonesaw1011 Год назад +3

      @@xxkildarxxthats what all capitalists do. They only debate strawmen

    • @xxkildarxx
      @xxkildarxx Год назад +9

      @@bonesaw1011 meh debates are for ego and entertainment anyway. Discussions are far more productive then striving for a "win" that does not exist outside a classroom.

  • @crediblesalamander8056
    @crediblesalamander8056 Год назад +168

    I mean she has a point about prices. They're really not based on demand, especially for basic goods like bread/flour or toilet paper which have relatively inelastic demand. If they were based on demand, profits wouldn't be rising this much. There is an argument to be made that there's cost inflation from dwindling supply due to things like the pandemic and the war in Ukraine. But this doesn't explain all of the increase in pricing. Companies are just increasing prices because they can blame it all on supply issues and rake in huge profits because people still have to buy these things and regulation is non-existent. There's also the classic inflation loop of prices rising because prices are rising.

    • @Tangnost
      @Tangnost Год назад +30

      Also, Atrioc pointed out a house costing around the same relative to barrels of oil, but how many barrels of oil can the average salary buy now compared to 40 years ago.

    • @camc7416
      @camc7416 Год назад +16

      @@Tangnostexactly. Also, who dictates the price of oil? Some of the biggest players in the oil/petroleum industry have decided to produce less oil in order to create an artificial “demand” to justify raising their prices. Due to this I feel that girl on TikTok was largely correct in that someone just “decides” the prices of everything. As Attioc said, we are exchanging money for the use of energy to produce something, but if the producers of energy are corrupt then wtf are we paying for??

    • @rookiereekie358
      @rookiereekie358 Год назад

      I can tell you why. Corporations aren’t stupid. They see that Covid or Ukraine tensions are gonna cause major supply shocks. When the supply shocks catches up to them, they’re gonna lose their (sometimes very thin!) profit margins. So, to avoid this, they raise prices. Essentially, the price of the supply shock has been laden onto the consumer. The reason their profits are so high is because the aforementioned supply shock hasn’t caught up yet. So in that short time, that have great profits, but soon they’ll be brought down to regular baseline by the negatives of the supply shock that’s been catching up to them, and other consequences of inflation.
      Supply and Demand is still taught for a reason; it works.

    • @rookiereekie358
      @rookiereekie358 Год назад +4

      Also, the whole idea of ‘Greedflation’ is really funny, because it implies corporations JUST learnt that they can raise prices and maximize profits.

    • @Fractured_Unity
      @Fractured_Unity Год назад +2

      @@rookiereekie358No, it’s implying corporations have resurged into their shamelessness of the gilded era days.

  • @jeffisorange3942
    @jeffisorange3942 Год назад +58

    Hitrioc, I think one of the aspects of Gen Z "not caring about the long term" comes from, as others have said, an unguaranteed future. I was born in '98 and I remember back in the oughts and early tens when people were still hopeful about helping the planet (shout out Al Gore). I also remember that sentiment largely growing into more of "yeah we are just fucked now." I think a lot of people my age share that sentiment because we are actively seeing the destruction of our future in real time.... so fuck it we ball

    • @NickyBlue99
      @NickyBlue99 26 дней назад +1

      Al Gore said we'd be underwater years ago.

  • @atkascha
    @atkascha Год назад +108

    People do this with Steam games all the time. "well if i buy it now, when its on sale, i've saved money" (then they never play the game.... so basically just gave Valve $20). and yes, the US has printed more money than ever in the last 30 years.
    if you were born in the last 30 years , you have 1,000x more access to "stuff" than someone today.
    pre-2006, smart phones, PC gaming, a million $10 apps, overpriced food delivery apps, boutique clothing brands, Marvel movies, etc... just didn't exist. wanted to "have fun" as a kid in 1998? you went to the mall and didn't spend anything other than on a slice of pizza and a soda at Sbarro, or road your bike around construction sites and got smacked by your mom when you cut yourself on rebar. maybe you spent $5 at an arcade. you didn't watch and dono to youtubers and twitch streamers. they didn't exist either. there were less concerts that were teen-friendly/teen-available as sure Brittany Spears and NSync were touring, but they didn't tour to the level that happens today.
    the knob has been turned to 11 on everything, in conjunction with consumer FOMO, people save less, spend more, as that's what been normalized. combine that with inflation being exacerbated by a shitty system... the price of everything will continue to rise. save your money. or invest in doge when it goes to the moon lol

    • @fatmatt6669
      @fatmatt6669 Год назад +2

      I feel called out xD

    • @crediblesalamander8056
      @crediblesalamander8056 Год назад +17

      of course, if a game is less than $5 it's basically free

    • @DNeonLamp
      @DNeonLamp Год назад +2

      My mate is barely half way though BG3 and just bought Armoured Core 6 instantly on release, no mark down and no plans to play it until they're done with BG3. But it's already in the library.

    • @samt3412
      @samt3412 Год назад +10

      Dude, I feel like I've had to rewire my brain to not get caught up in hype for every new product. I played the demo for Pikmin 4, really enjoyed it, then thought to myself, "Do I want to pay $60 for this game?" and realized that there is no good reason for me to buy it, especially when I haven't even beaten Persona 4 Golden yet. I've also become more interested in emulators as of late, which has essentially expanded my horizon of "games I can play for free" to an amount so large that even just playing the ones worth playing would take a lifetime. So, in summary, don't fall into a hype trap for Armored Core 6 or whatever and just play We Love Katamari on a PS2 emulator, it's a really great game.

    • @micha3l7
      @micha3l7 Год назад

      Bro said he got pizza at a Sbarro. Spin around the east coast your getting put down. Heretic fuck

  • @DonkeySean
    @DonkeySean Год назад +33

    as someone from gen z, the mindset i subscribe to is “experiences are worth the amount”. with parents that had a mentality of saving and working up the corporate ladder, i would rather just make memories than save up and have them way later.

    • @atrioc
      @atrioc  Год назад +18

      thats kinda based actually

    • @DonkeySean
      @DonkeySean Год назад

      @@atrioc ur kinda based big A

    • @DonkeySean
      @DonkeySean Год назад +13

      @@atrioc thank you, but to further that idea:
      some experiences wont be around when gen Z retires. musicians wont be touring, vacation spots might be closed down, ect. i guess gen z really adopted the “f it we ball” or “yolo” lifestyle
      memories are worth more than money: if i want to see a concert and spend $100 on a ticket, im not gonna remember where my money went but i will remember the concert.

    • @ArmanZaidi
      @ArmanZaidi Год назад

      yoo that's so true@@DonkeySean

    • @maxcohen4891
      @maxcohen4891 Год назад

      based and camuspilled

  • @EquatorAU
    @EquatorAU Год назад +20

    instructions not clear, bought 400 barrels of oil
    thanks atrioc you’re the man

    • @MiroredImage
      @MiroredImage Год назад +4

      Is that boy dinner?

    • @EquatorAU
      @EquatorAU Год назад +2

      yeah i mean what else are you gonna do with 400 barrels of oil
      if u bought them for food then they're basically free @@MiroredImage

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Год назад +1

      @@EquatorAU you could sell them at a futures delivery auction!
      You'll get 20 points per barrel I think 🤔

  • @goceystore
    @goceystore Год назад +33

    girl math is when i don't scan things for customers in the checkout line :)

    • @hellatubbies882yt
      @hellatubbies882yt Год назад

      you demon, how could you not scan something then watch me get harassed by the fucking door guy for trying to take something i thought i payed for?

    • @Abuqital2000
      @Abuqital2000 2 месяца назад

      Not all heroes wear capes

  • @novanay8000
    @novanay8000 Год назад +27

    I'm down for girl math. Nothing's guaranteed, everything's just getting more and more expensive- if girl math lets me buy candles, anime figures and plushes then I'm down no questions asked

  • @Dracna9
    @Dracna9 Год назад +33

    I do this sort of mental gymnastics to justify my purchases all the time. Does this make me a girl?

    • @bibubbletea
      @bibubbletea Год назад +36

      Yes, welcome to womanhood my sister 💕

    • @polygontower
      @polygontower Год назад +3

      If you're a girl, yes. If not, cat pic. You're an exception because of your cat pic.

    • @ChicaneryBear
      @ChicaneryBear Год назад +3

      Only if you wanna be

  • @dropspindle
    @dropspindle Год назад +30

    I spent like 5 minutes crafting a wicked response to a “women be shopping” style comment but by the time I went to post it the original comment was removed 💔
    My girl dinner was going to be making futile attempts to cure sexism in youtube comments but I guess I’ll just eat regular dinner instead

    • @MiroredImage
      @MiroredImage Год назад +9

      I don't even try curing that shit anymore, I just make fun of them as much as I can lol. It's at least some petty enjoyment watching misogynists finally drop the act and just say the quiet parts out loud

    • @adrianliung8374
      @adrianliung8374 Год назад +9

      I notice when men make jokes, they realize they're joking/being ironic and laugh. But when men see women make jokes, they think they're being serious/hysterical/stupid. Somewhat noticeable even in Big A's Twitch chat with the "????".

    • @selearth3123
      @selearth3123 Год назад

      @@adrianliung8374 unfortunately there's still a pretty sizeable part of his audience that's like that, even though he is pretty openly for lgbtq+ rights and such. they delude themselves into thinking he's doing it for the bit so the ""woke left"" don't come after him. (read: they don't understand there are consequences for your actions and words)
      everything a woman does has to be hyperanalysed by men, and they are incapable of seeing it as anything other than being deadly serious or a hysterical woman moment. it reminds me of that girl who people say cheated in poker because she did a stupid thing and ended up winning a hand because of it. it absolutely does not occur to men that.. maybe she just did something stupid and tried to bluff her way out of it, and that she wasn't cheating and didn't know this incredibly unlikely series of events were about to unfold. men do similarly stupid things in poker and it is NEVER scrutinised anywhere near that level. gets so tiring to have my every word and move be judged by men (whos opinion of me i do not value. fuck off men.) when i was just doing a bit or some shit.

    • @MiroredImage
      @MiroredImage Год назад +5

      @@adrianliung8374 Oh yeah, absolutely. Classic misogynist tactic to forcefully ignore women's sarcasm so that you get to pretend they're just cRaZy. It's what keeps the "women aren't funny" thing going strong

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Год назад +2

      @@MiroredImage ahh I see 👀 as a mysogynist I didn't know these things 🙊
      🧐 Toodles pip! gotta find my bish n teller to make me a sammich 🥺

  • @Chronas264
    @Chronas264 Год назад +16

    It doesn’t matter that I paid 1,000 dollars on poker if they gave me 4 free drinks. It evens out. if ANYTHING they made ME money

  • @an_ab_6380
    @an_ab_6380 Год назад +41

    hey big a! just letting you know YOU are my girl dinner. i will not elaborate

  • @carlo11
    @carlo11 Год назад +238

    I cannot believe Atrioc discovered the Marxist labor theory of value today. So happy for him. The next chapter looks bright.

    • @killersmile7180
      @killersmile7180 Год назад +17

      I just would like to know how the massive increase in productivity over the decades fits into the equation with the house and the barrels.

    • @2010AZ
      @2010AZ Год назад +6

      ​@@killersmile7180We don't build more houses. There's little to no increase in productivity in thay field.

    • @adamboh393
      @adamboh393 Год назад

      The overall jist is that in real terms you’ve been paid less despite productivity increasing. In Marxist terms more of your labour value is being stolen.

    • @cookieshade197
      @cookieshade197 Год назад +16

      Not quite, he described an energy theory of value, not just labor

    • @ghdshds1899
      @ghdshds1899 Год назад +7

      He described energy theory of value also Marxism L

  • @cmonkey3698
    @cmonkey3698 Год назад +4

    The problem with the oil barrel comparison is that in 1980 a house cost about $48,000, or 1350 barrels of oil at $35 a barrel which was the price at the time, which would cost just under $110,000 today at $80 a barrel. Median house price in the US is 4-5x that.

  • @randomshotz13
    @randomshotz13 Год назад +18

    As someone born in the mid to late 90's the first time money became "real" (i.e. not a couple coins from my parents to buy cards or sweets but something i could save) was right around 2008... In the UK we've had one continuous financial crisis since then due to austerity and Brexit and now rampant inflation. It's very demoralising. I've managed to get myself into the top 15% of earners in the country and I can't afford a house in my county, that would've been unthinkable 40 years ago

    • @tortillachips3911
      @tortillachips3911 Год назад +2

      Yikes... but also mood

    • @piotroszko2
      @piotroszko2 Год назад

      Same, top 10% of my country. I barely can afford to rent small apartment and pay for 15y old car. Nowhere near being able to even take mortgage for my own apartment.

    • @staskozak8118
      @staskozak8118 Год назад

      Haha, live in Ukraine for 27 years. 2 digits inflation every year and now war but still slowly saving for car and house.
      You get used to it eventually)

    • @randomshotz13
      @randomshotz13 Год назад

      @@staskozak8118 yeah we both live in countries that have been plundered by corrupt kleptomaniacs and landed the bill at our feet, thankfully the UK hasn't had it as bad and no wars in our borders! Then politicians have the cheek to blame us all for not buying houses and having kids... like we can afford it! The world is changing but I don't like where it's heading, best of luck to you and your country brother 💪

  • @GodfatherBoxSet
    @GodfatherBoxSet Год назад +8

    As someone juat coming off thier first year with an adult career, i see why my generation isnt saving. Rent is ridiculous and takes half my budget and then living expenses takes another 1/3. So from my point of view do i either do nothing at all and save my last 500 from my pay or spend most of it on something i want to do. Now i do pre-tax save for retirement but otherwise i dont really save unless its for a trip in the future

    • @DannyDecksLoR
      @DannyDecksLoR Год назад

      To add to this me and my wife earn much more than avarage and in our age bracket we are almost double. While we aren't particularly frugal we don't waste money either. Buying a house has been extremely difficult and scary despite a 1m pre-approval. We are extremely lucky and it's still hard. Anyone in a worse position which statistically is most ppl are truelly fucked. If you rent you will never own. 355ml of orange juice is 3$ like wtf

  • @flyingchic3n
    @flyingchic3n Год назад +17

    what I learned here is that the dollar is backed by boy math

    • @kak42
      @kak42 Год назад +4

      I mean... "boy math" fits as a nickname for military spending, i guess...

  • @thomaskerby8908
    @thomaskerby8908 Год назад +11

    To a point about his "barrels of Oil' comment: just based off rough estimates in 1970 an average house was worth 1360.36 barrels of oil, but in 2023 an average house is worth 6,426.96 barrels of oil. I agree that viewing currency as an exchange of energy is a valid paradigm (i.e. labor for money) but the raw resource argument does not truly hold up especially with non-renewable resources as fiat currency can be continuously generated and oil, gold, emeralds, ect. cannot.

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Год назад +13

    God seeing big a upload still fills me with so much joy, I am so glad he is back

  • @maydaymemer4660
    @maydaymemer4660 Год назад +17

    So basically the original segment on the aussie radio show was a satirical bit that the hosts did where you would call in with some absurd spending and theyd talk about ways that youre saving money. The joke being that the conclude with “you essentially got it for free” every time
    So the derivative works are either a) taking it deadly seriously, not understanding the original was a joke, or b) are also a joke, but are adding nothing since theyre just repeating the joke that this aussie radio station already did perfectly the first time

    • @shrubninja6444
      @shrubninja6444 Год назад +4

      Yeah the original one was funny since it was obviously just a silly bit. I'm really concerned with the people who actually try to use it to justify poor spending habits though.

    • @jeltje50
      @jeltje50 Год назад +4

      It's funny how when women do satire it soooooo often gets taken dead serious. Like everything is irony and satire in this post irony world.
      But women apparantly don't do jokes.

    • @maydaymemer4660
      @maydaymemer4660 Год назад +1

      @@jeltje50erm yea kind of awkward

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 7 месяцев назад

      @@jeltje50 The name girl math is also basically making fun of that trend.

    • @jeltje50
      @jeltje50 7 месяцев назад

      @@hedgehog3180 the whole joke/trend is inherently self deprecating.

  • @stubear89
    @stubear89 Год назад +5

    I'm a millennial, but the part of Girl Math where once a vacation comes up that was pre-paid for it does feel sort of, "free," if it was months later. If for example I book and pay for a convention badge and hotel in February (budgeting expenses for that then), future me when the trip rolls around months later goes, "oh boy, now I have all this budget available for the trip for food and goods since I don't have any more bills for it!" I think that is mostly because of how close paycheck-to-paycheck many are in society. Similarly, twice a year there are 3 pay periods in a month due to bi-weekly pay. Those feel like an additional tax return season since I try and budget around just the two paychecks every month.

  • @wisp6979
    @wisp6979 Год назад +9

    I don't know about guy maths Atrioc, maybe you just hang out with gambling addicts

    • @amrali1380
      @amrali1380 Год назад +3

      true

    • @Dschonathan
      @Dschonathan Год назад +2

      Guy math is buying games on Steam that you don't actually want but because you paid 20 for a 30 game your brain imagines that this -20 is actually a +10

    • @wisp6979
      @wisp6979 Год назад +3

      @@Dschonathan Now that's some guy maths I can relate to

  • @fastcalendar
    @fastcalendar Год назад +4

    Besides it being obviously jokey, I think it boils down to a conflation of "worthy value = Free". Return = "I still had the fun of shopping it for at ultimately no cost", Gift card = "this almost certainly would've been lost in a drawer forever if not spent on literally anything", etc.

  • @tristanholm7698
    @tristanholm7698 Год назад +14

    Big-A, you gotta talk about Galen Weston, the owner of basically all grocery stores in Canada. He talked about how he was saving us money and how hard covid has been and then bragged about record profits. I’m missing some of the details but it’s crazy how much of a chokehold he has on the country

  • @potatogamerfiber
    @potatogamerfiber Год назад +5

    I have a friend that used "extra money" from her student loans to go on a foreign vacation when she figured out she could "afford" it. Told her she was taking a loan to go on vacation. She shushed me

  • @GirlDotJpeg
    @GirlDotJpeg Год назад +9

    i still agree with that woman about money not being real and inflation not being real simply dont raise prices when you dont need to tbh

    • @Me-ui1zy
      @Me-ui1zy Год назад +1

      Simply don't raise prices

    • @inoahguy4you
      @inoahguy4you Год назад +2

      @@Me-ui1zysimply lose money because your supplier will still raise prices

    • @SilharaTheChosen
      @SilharaTheChosen Год назад +1

      ​@inoahguy4552 I think they're including the suppliers in that statement too fam

    • @GirlDotJpeg
      @GirlDotJpeg Год назад

      @@inoahguy4you so true

    • @donaldpratt2296
      @donaldpratt2296 11 месяцев назад

      @@inoahguy4youit’s all cartel behavior. We’d be seeing significant undercutting if these industries weren’t controlled by a few firms that all observe and act off of each other.

  • @dylanwyly2199
    @dylanwyly2199 Год назад +3

    Atroc telling me I had the "good times" being born in 2001. Started life into 9/11 and the war machine (my homie was born 2 hours after 2nd tower). Started Highschool when trump was elected and graduated into covid (no prom, no graduation). Started college online in aline in a dorm room and was banned from social gathering and making friends. Now I will be graduating into a terrible job market and recession that could become a depression with the rise of AI destroying my field.

    • @adrianliung8374
      @adrianliung8374 Год назад

      Pretty sure he meant that he's being ironic and hinting that the coming times will be way worse than now. Hence now is the "good times".

    • @rookiereekie358
      @rookiereekie358 Год назад +1

      Good old lump of labor fallacy. Automation only replaces jobs, obviously, there’s never been an example of the opposite!
      Sorry for being rude, man, I understand it. Just tired of hearing people say this. I hope you can find a job in the soft landing (not a recession btw) that’s [probably] gonna happen.

  • @bavier6355
    @bavier6355 Год назад +30

    I spent $300 on shoes and it felt like i spent nothing cause i finally got something ANYTHING for retail.

    • @Purriah
      @Purriah Год назад +15

      If spending $300 on shoes felt free because it was somehow retail price, I hope you make 6 figures +

  • @Nuclear_Gandhi
    @Nuclear_Gandhi 6 месяцев назад +1

    Boy math: the weekly alcohol budget doesn't count

  • @musicmashups
    @musicmashups Год назад +3

    As a Gen Z myself, I do understand the mentality of "what's the point of saving if there's no future for us anyway," though it's still a pretty short-sighted mentality.

  • @kaitheguy7832
    @kaitheguy7832 Год назад +1

    As a gen Z, I also hardly save any money. over half my paycheck goes to rent each month, 1/4 of my paycheck for food. and the last 1/4 I usually spend on doing things that I enjoy. I don't make enough money to be financially independent/stable/comfortable.

  • @rakata40
    @rakata40 10 месяцев назад +1

    LMFAO bro ur laugh being at the same tone and rhythm the entire way MAKES ME THROW UP LAUGHING EVERYTIME!! LOL

  • @gooseboxtv
    @gooseboxtv Год назад +3

    My girl math is that cash isn’t “real money”. It’s only real spending if I actively watch the number in my bank account go down

  • @HappyH4ppyHappy
    @HappyH4ppyHappy Месяц назад +1

    Boy math is buying the top-of-the-line graphics card to play the original Diablo.

  • @lelo2332
    @lelo2332 Год назад +2

    Being in the middle beetween millenials and gen Z i experienced a very clear change in attitude. For the better part of my childhood my family taught me how to find a job and save up to be indipendent in the future. After 2008 the discourse slowly switched to "i HOPE you can find a proper job and a house... and also i REALLY HOPE you will able to retire earlier than at 70 years old..."
    So if have the prospect of working 10 years more than my father, then my gaming PC, videogame collection and Vinyl collection are pretty much free tbh

  • @exMuteKid
    @exMuteKid Год назад +1

    I just accidentally knocked over my last hard cider and it’s 2:33AM and I have to get up at 8AM. I want to die.

  • @MrMentalrevolution
    @MrMentalrevolution Месяц назад +1

    Damn that Swifty was flying to Vienna, that concert has been canceled

  • @swiftman57
    @swiftman57 Год назад +7

    I’m a Gen Z guy and I also participate in “Girl Math”

  • @KarosElite
    @KarosElite Год назад +2

    Why do I Girl Math™️ my Pokémon card purchases

  • @jsobers
    @jsobers Год назад +1

    Male math: any profits made from gambling isn't real money therefore I can do whatever I want with it.

  • @Cornchips392
    @Cornchips392 Год назад +6

    TBH some of these are opportunity costs and economists would agree...to a point

  • @joemarais7683
    @joemarais7683 Год назад +51

    I’m 100% on board with Girl Math. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed, so if I can use stupid garbage and most of the time satirical logic to justify my spending now, why not?
    Plus, it’s really funny.

    • @mschuhler
      @mschuhler Год назад +3

      because tomorrow isn't guaranteed, but its pretty fuckin close to guaranteed

  • @Steinmetal4
    @Steinmetal4 9 месяцев назад

    Wife and I got a new cc card for joint purchases (food, bills) so we can each buy our own "treat yo'self" goods with own money, no questions asked. Naturally, if I even look at the item in question, we both use it, hence joint purchase. Girl math.

  • @4na-k8
    @4na-k8 9 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah I think there is honestly so many defeatists in gen z which could be an advantage to some, but it kinda just made me resign mentally some time around middle school.

  • @dt7353
    @dt7353 3 месяца назад +1

    1776 to 2000: national debt 5 trillion
    2000 to 2024 national debt 33 trillion.

  • @itsmurphy97
    @itsmurphy97 Год назад +2

    i will take 1 Ferrari please yes here is your 3 bracelets sir

  • @crit7514
    @crit7514 Год назад +2

    I feel like guys just sometimes can't tell that women are also funny. At least media folk are always like "Look at this dumb bimbo doing dumb stuff", without realizing women also can make dumb tiktoks without that saying anything about how they actually live their lives or act.

  • @sakalaath
    @sakalaath Год назад +2

    I do think a lot of it is "women be shopping, and guys be shopping too". I think people just love to consume. I'll credit my parents for why I don't spend tons of money on frivolous things. You can have hobbies that don't cost a lot of money.

  • @freddiepatterson1045
    @freddiepatterson1045 Год назад +1

    Just FYI atrioc, on the gold standard, and especially before WW2, inflation rates were absolutely wild, they would jump from 50% down to deflation over a couple years. Inflation graphs from 1800 to 2020s, there is a clear change around 1940s-1970, central bank's played a big part in it, and with a free floating currency their job is much easier

    • @freddiepatterson1045
      @freddiepatterson1045 Год назад

      Deflation is nearly always worse than inflation generally which the gold standard didn't help

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Год назад

      👀 you been reading gold/currency/commodity charts bruh?
      Studying for your cfa bruh?
      👉🏾👈🏾 Boi math

    • @freddiepatterson1045
      @freddiepatterson1045 Год назад

      @@shadow_realm47 econ degree 😫

  • @skyninegaming
    @skyninegaming Год назад +8

    The quality of my life has drastically improved since Atrioc came back. Everything is turning up, and being able to tune into my favorite internet personality so frequently has absolutely lifted my spirits. Glad to have you back, Big A o7

  • @mako1448mako
    @mako1448mako Год назад +6

    Reminds me of calorie math. If I eat this carrot I get a cake 😋

  • @kierancreighton96
    @kierancreighton96 Год назад +2

    Rationally, we're also paying for the cost of printing the money, on top of paying for the materials of the money
    As opposed to trading gold for money
    I.e; we're paying production tax, for something that is agreed to have been worth the value of its production
    Edit; not to mention tax on property, energy bills, distribution, inheritance
    And we pay when every single investment company makes a bad decision, and for every scam
    The gold standard made money make sense, now it just does not make sense

  • @micxed786
    @micxed786 Год назад +1

    All I’m going to add is that in terms of gen-z not saving money, I personally just do not see a purpose to saving a couple thousand dollars when it’s value will be greatly reduced as a I get older. I’m in high school, I just spend most my money on food and maintain a balance of multiple thousands of dollars and just leave it at that. A thousand dollars now goes a long way, a thousand in the future does not.

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Год назад +1

      When inflation goes down eventually if you're getting a decent enough return on your savings just the interest on that is enough to set you up for life🙊

    • @micxed786
      @micxed786 Год назад +1

      @@shadow_realm47 a decent enough return on a couple thousand will in no way ever set me up for life 🥸

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 7 месяцев назад

      I mean generally you don't just keep this sitting in your bank but pay into some retirement plan, which hires professional investors to try to smartly invest tour money. Though you're a teenager so that's not really relevant for you and at that age there's no point in worrying about retirement.

  • @Scarface-uv6kw
    @Scarface-uv6kw Год назад +1

    Bro to think ZM began this trend is crazy I listen to them every morning and this completely flew over my head. Love it though.

  • @Big_ol_Yams
    @Big_ol_Yams Год назад +1

    Guy math is spending 50 bucks on in-game currency instead of 20 bc you're going to spend that much eventually and there's a 5% bonus if you buy in bulk

  • @LuchM
    @LuchM Год назад +2

    2:39am in the UK... perfect timing

  • @LiilYogurt
    @LiilYogurt Год назад +1

    My math is just buying something impulsively and then saying “well I would have spent that money on something anyways”

  • @lennylikesmusic
    @lennylikesmusic Год назад +1

    Boy dinner is a all the dino nuggets.

  • @trippercox5180
    @trippercox5180 Год назад +2

    “It’s not a trend it’s a mindset” -my wife

  • @andersonlynn3686
    @andersonlynn3686 2 месяца назад

    The petrol dollar isn’t backed anymore , that finally expired

  • @ornq8378
    @ornq8378 Год назад +1

    The Monopoly end game analogy is too real

  • @odpieces
    @odpieces Год назад +3

    Im gonna fight everyone in chat saying it's AUD it's aussie dollars when the Kiwi radio show was playing like BRO HE SAID THEY'RE IN NZ WE'RE NOT THE SAME COUNTRY fucks sake untcay i'm fuming anyway love the video big A keep it up xx

  • @BK557SC
    @BK557SC Год назад +1

    I dont understand the idea correlation between housing prices and oil barrels. Like there are many things that have prices that are completely not correlated with energy demands and housing prices are very much one of those things. Its really weird like the price of crude oil in the past 60 years has went up 260% whereas the median price of a house has went up 2,300%.

  • @doktorwyvern2883
    @doktorwyvern2883 Год назад +1

    I'm 21 years old and even in my shitty 30k populace city a house cost $300k and rent is $1.5k for a single bedroom apartment and education to go into the field I wanted would cost north of $350k, and require recolating. Inflation will wipe out what little money I could save at my current job. Investing is incredibly risky for anything with a yield that would actually be meaningful when your savings are dictated by a near minimum wage job, and "safe" investments yield so little (especially with inflation) I would never see any substantial results.
    My ability to create a future by just working my way through college and transitioning into a viable carrier was ruined before I was born by people who will be dead in 10 years. Tons of people my age understand the economy, and don't save for that exact reason. I'll never get to retire anyways, so I should enjoy life now and just hope I have a heart attack at 45 or so.

  • @NotFrogBox
    @NotFrogBox Год назад +1

    I mean the US dollar is fiat so it is backed by hopes and dreams, but in all honesty it’s value is majorly influenced by oil as of right now. Though the petrodollar is probably on its way out and will be replaced by some form of crypto or uranium.

  • @ProjSHiNKiROU
    @ProjSHiNKiROU Год назад +1

    On “girl things” being criticized more often and more quickly: It’s interesting that MLM and astrology on paper are gender neutral, but in practice they are for women. Not sure if it’s due to material conditions unique to females vs. males or a case of path dependence (gendered marketing initially setting a path to more gendered marketing in the future)

    • @princessaria
      @princessaria Год назад +1

      I think MLMs are so heavily linked to women because it’s more accessible for stay at home parents, which are statistically more likely to be women.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 7 месяцев назад

      @@princessaria That and marketing, the scams that target guys tend to be investment scams that market themselves using the generally very masculine image we have of wall street from pop culture.

  • @Ben-s3y2h
    @Ben-s3y2h Год назад

    6:50 - I think the article is talking about how banks were required by law to hold 10% in reserves until fairly recently, like 2019-ish when the law changed. Now banks aren't required to have any reserves.

  • @CrunchRosey
    @CrunchRosey Год назад +2

    8:48 we literally doing twice the work for half the pay (not you atrioc)

  • @RedPandaStan
    @RedPandaStan Год назад +3

    tbh the sentiment that money isnt real was something i kinda agreed with b4 girl math was a thing

  • @Gorbgorbenson
    @Gorbgorbenson Год назад +7

    To me, it seems like a mix of fuck it we ball and apathy. As the younger generation, it seems aparent that the writing is on the wall, in some way. Be it climate crisis, economic crisis or old fashioned facism.
    The underlying ideas behind girl math seem to be to not worry about that shit and have a good time now rather than bother to save for when you're old, crusty and the world isnt affording you the luxries that you can buy today; with a thing that is totally conceptual in nature (money) and will evaporate when an apocalypse or world changing event innevitably happens.

    • @AidanMc98
      @AidanMc98 Год назад +4

      This is probably the interpretation that I share tbh. It feels like the entirity of the planet is so fucked and the older generations dont seem enough to care about, so why would I care enough to plan and save for the next 60-years when it genuinely feels like not even the next 15-years is guaranteed. I am 25 and am lucky enough to own my own property in Australia and earn above the average income and I feel this way, so I couldnt imagine how much worse it could feel for pretty much everyone else. Live for now and enjoy life while you can.

    • @rookiereekie358
      @rookiereekie358 Год назад

      Fucking social media, man. It exaggerated everything wrong with the wrong into some unsolvable monster, when in reality the problems it says are real aren’t or are more solvable than it makes them seem. Take a break from the news and social media, or check your sources (and check the sources that are checking the sources) and make sure they aren’t exaggerating the problem.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 7 месяцев назад

      It's the paradox of seeing record floods at the same time as farmers throw hissyfits and block off roads in Europe in protest of the most basic environmental reforms.

  • @June4Marcus
    @June4Marcus Год назад +1

    GenZ is also getting their shit kicked in. This is one of the most expensive times to be alive with inflation higher than ever. It’s insanely expensive to live, price for basic household goods have skyrocketed while jobs are still paying the same. At the end of the day, people are still human and not working robots and would like to experience things and have fun along the way. People don’t want to work in a factory like their grandparents all their lives lol and that’s fair

  • @jaymillerreal
    @jaymillerreal Год назад +1

    the way I conceptualize money is if I have enough I have infinite money glitch and I can do whatever i want and then eventually they turn off infinite money glitch and I have to go on the street and catch rats

  • @bobbodaskank
    @bobbodaskank 15 дней назад

    The math in our household is "going to a two hour movie as a family would cost like $60 minimum. But if we buy a $60 video game, that will probably entertain us for dozens or even hundreds of hours. The video game is, quite frankly, a responsible choice."

  • @tgporter07
    @tgporter07 Год назад +1

    9:23 Atrioc is 150 years too late to be discovering the labour theory of value

  • @smolpener7430
    @smolpener7430 2 месяца назад +1

    If being responsible means little more than accepting the consequences of other people's irresponsible behavior, there is no value in being responsible.
    Sympathy for leeches is *always* misplaced.

  • @austingivens3078
    @austingivens3078 Год назад

    Leaving Vegas in 3 hours . My excuse was , I had 500 for gambling today but I spent probably 200 on food , really spent like 35 on food .

  • @IxRxKAZPER
    @IxRxKAZPER Год назад +28

    It never stops being funny that people have such a strong opinion on the gold standard but never stop to think what happens if everyone redeems their dollar for gold.

    • @jackalope07
      @jackalope07 Год назад +18

      we just print more gold

    • @polygontower
      @polygontower Год назад

      @@jackalope07 How? Do we have the technology for that? I'd think currently it'd be too costly to turn atoms into gold atoms by adding protons individually.

    • @jackalope07
      @jackalope07 Год назад +23

      @@polygontower the philosophers stone is real (you may know it as the one piece)

    • @ashholiday123
      @ashholiday123 Год назад +4

      Ever heard of a "Run On The Bank"? The exact same problem already exists TODAY with our system so that's not really an arguement against it - There are many arguements you could make against the gold standard, but that is not one of them.

    • @Ulfgarr
      @Ulfgarr Год назад

      @Ashholiday123 have you not heard of the money printer?

  • @Fede45454
    @Fede45454 Год назад

    The problem with the gold standard is that since the currency is pegged central banks have very very limited ability to affect monetary policy. Imagine if we had no ability to affect monetary policy? We would be going through constant boom and bust cycles IE depression era instead of the Federal Reserve managing economic cycles. These arguments people make are generally uninformed and kind of surface level

  • @james-775
    @james-775 Год назад +1

    i love getting bullied and looked down on by everyone older than me for things I didn't do!

  • @supersammos
    @supersammos Год назад

    Demand is no longer deciding shit, when it goes up it does, when it goes down, nothing changes anymore, nothing drops in price ever.

  • @TheFoxMaster101
    @TheFoxMaster101 Год назад

    8:40 she makes a really good argument about why you shouldnt believe in the US Dollar however where she goes wrong is what you should do with that conclusion the argument makes a really good case for exchanging your money to a different currency which you believe to be more stable however makes no case on why the solution is to start spending money senselessly because of that and there is no case where thats the solution

  • @caponebd7941
    @caponebd7941 Год назад +1

    That Aussie talk show is actually gold though lmao

  • @AngelicIsight
    @AngelicIsight Год назад

    The only time I do weird math is when it comes to paying for things in cash, and normally it’s because I got that money in cash, and so when I pay for something personal in cash, it’s like extra money because I didn’t have to pay taxes on it. I don’t really do weird math on things, but because I run my own business, I do weird justifications for taking a break a lot. Especially starting out, I’ve been taking a lot of breaks because the job is so mentally taxing. I keep wanting to just work in my preferred zen-like state, but I am always losing it because of the constant novelty of the issues I am facing. Hopefully it gets back to becoming more mundane to me again, and I can take less breaks, but that is as weird as I get with it.

  • @Bauldi
    @Bauldi Год назад

    bro gambling math is too fucking real. it's always a good time so you always win.

  • @a_person4270
    @a_person4270 Год назад +1

    This was me justifying my baldurs gate 3 purchase