Is Modern Neuroscience PROVING Carl Jung was RIGHT?
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
- Carl Jung was slandered as a mystic quack for much of the 20th Century
He proposed crazy ideas in fairness:
- a living "unconscious" that could speak to you...
- a shared ancestral imagination
But two modern developments in Neuroscience may have shown that his CRAZIEST ideas were correct...
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It's amusing to me how many of Jung's claims on things like archetypes seemed unscientific at the time yet have been sort of reinforced by modern science.
To be fair, Jung also very clearly think were in the psyche, in the sense that reality is taking place in the mind of God.
That something that Jungians are terrified to actually acknowledge.
Sort of reinforced? What does that even mean?
@@christopherhamilton3621well the lack of hyper literal and specific scientific language from Jung allows people to some what come away with different interpretations. So we are comparing two different vernaculars and we are saying these translate very accurately.
Intuition ftw. Science is fake and gay and only reluctantly tells the truth.
@@rolandrush5172Hi! Could you elaborate a bit more?
I ask this because some time ago i figured out that its ontological framework (the way we present things) that gives Jungs work a pseudoscientific look. But in fact when you as you say "translate" his works to scientific ontological framework his work blows your mind away and you can see that trully it is a gold mine for scientific research.
I am not sure if Jung just didnt have a better way of how to present his ideas other then trough Kantian/Platonic ontology but he trully had great insight
"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate."
Jung
Can we really make unconscious conscious? I don't think we can or even if we can that would drive us crazy because of all those memories and experiences we got from past, i m not talking about memories of parents or any previous generations just our own memories would make us insane
@@AI_generation_1st . Ahh, I do agree with your sentiment and there is a reason why the other side of us isn't consciously aware, because we can't handle it, all at once that is.
The balance between the two sides I would personally call it a vacuum, a push and pull struggle. When we sift through its contents honestly and we process this information, it dissolves blockage, freeing up more space for our conscious awareness to occupy. The footwork of doing this also builds Psychological muscle needed to onboard a more taxing Psychic payload.
I bet 95% of people are basically walking around using no more then 5% of their inherent facilities, this leaves the 95% remaining, as a subconscious psychic driver in their day to day. These people are troubled and they are everywhere. They are an extreme degree of what I'm speaking about and they are highly manipulated, since they Religiously avoid self reflection they do not know themselves one ioda. If we don't know ourselves and our own Psychological baggage, wth are we even doing here? If we have the tools to dig into our inner clockworks, but we do not deploy these tools, our abilities atrophy and you can absolutely count on the fact that if we aren't driving our own bus, someone else certainly is (Ill stop there for times sake) . The only way to captain our own ship, is to know its components and then begin to sail first in smoother waters. The subconscious mind is autonomous by itself and trust me we want it working with us, if it is not, it is working against us. It is vital that we integrate this in baby steps if necessary.
If we incessantly retreat, the unconscious mind doesn't know how to retreat and it increasingly manipulates the controls, gaining dominion over our waking hours.
If we are aware, this means we possess the tools, thus we have the ability to shine our light into the dark places. I would say it is one of our most vital objectives to complete in this short life. If we don't know ourselves, what is the point of being conscious at all?
"The dawn of consciousness is a curse." Jung
I would add that it is indeed a curse, but the genie is now out of the bottle and we must deploy this weapon, or fall to the wayside. If that all sounds grandiose, it is because it is grandiose in every sense of the word. I hope that made sense, my thumbs hurt lol. Be well
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If you are unaware of your emotions, and you don’t believe them to matter or exist, those very same emotions are the puppet master behind ever “logical” decision we make.
Funny how that works, you just can’t outrun or escape the fact that emotion and the unconscious mind is always and forever a part of us.
In a way it’s what binds us together, it almost feels intuitive that, if we reject the shadow of our self; being only a fraction of who we are how could we accept others ourself and the world around us.
@@SupermonkeyPlaysMC For this reason Jung said we must all undergo the process of individuation
Carl Jung said things that resonated so deep down in me, that I cannot feel anything else but an enormous admiration for him. When I see him talk in videos I see just a wonderful human being with a huge compassion for everyone. As he very wisely said "We cannot change anything, until we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it opresses, and I am the opressor of the person I condemn, not his friend and fellow sufferer. If a doctor wishes to help a human being he must be able to accept him as he is, and he can do this in reality, only, when he has already seen and accepted himself as he is".
To accept the world is to SEE the world for what she is; I can’t have empathy for something I’ve condemned simply because I am not seeing it on its own terms.
By accepting myself, i am absolving the burden of judgements and moralization in favor of seeing the bigger picture.
I can see the why and the how; even if I don’t like it, simply accepting it gives me the opportunity to give that acceptance and appreciation to another.
If I am a councilor and or minister and I am helping someone who is condemned by society; I can’t connect with them if I am busy judging their character as the situation before me.
Although intentions may be to help, people almost “feel” that judgment as you speak with them and in a lot of cases it turns them off to what you have to say.
Too many times we let people’s past actions get in the way of genuine attempts at atonement or redemption
Or we might even “abuse” that vulnerability in some way because we feel justified in doing so, when mercy is the tool to break the cycles of oppression and violence.
Thank you for sharing the quote with us
He was also racist
Another version of religion
@@DistortedV12How?
Jung only wrote books and research papers strictly for an academic audience. he had to be convinced by someone else to write at least 1 book for the public and so he wrote 1 book for laymen and it was his last book "Man and his Symbols". The idea that academics so often disregard him as a quack when he ONLY did his life's work for them and their eyes and brains alone, is very sad.
I like your icon photo thing . hmm... interesting observation; I didn’t know that, that he wrote so much simply as a part of his profession, and almost not at all for public consumption
And he didn’t write man and his symbols. I believe he only wrote one chapter. The rest is written by his students and successors.
@@avipinckney correct, but he agreed to have the complexities and nuances of his theories "dumbed down" for a generalized non-specialist audience, the only time he ever agreed to something like that.
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Greed is Good. Jung is bad for business.
It's that simple. I'm a physician. I know.
Of all your videos, this might be the most important you've done so far. Contemplating and adopting these ideas will make you a dangerous man. And I mean it in the most positive way possible. Thank you and best regards to everyone watching and commenting.
thank you!
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Jung would never have reduced the collective unconscious to the material. He saw psyche as fundamental. The cultural clothing of the archetypes are not the archetypes in themselves.
Yeah if we could measure them we‘d probably see them as wave structures or smth of the kind
well said
I'd say that these genetic changes correlated with ancestral memories are the material representations of fundamental events in universal consciousness.
Consciousness is fundamental, but we can observe its activity as transformations in matter.
It will just have to be another 50 years before the scientists turn around and say the panpsychists were right.
@@VperVendetta1992There are things in life but…Life is not a thing.👂
"The law of synchronicity has to be understood. This is one of the greatest contributions of Carl Gustav Jung to modern humanity: the law of synchronicity.
Science is based on the law of causality. The law of causality is mechanical. You heat water to a hundred degrees - it evaporates. Where you heat it is irrelevant - in the temple, in the church, in the mosque, it doesn’t matter; in India, in Tibet, it doesn’t matter. If you heat water to a hundred degrees, it evaporates; the water has no say in it. The water cannot say, “Today I am not feeling like it.” Or, “Today is Sunday and I am on a holiday, and I am not interested in becoming vapor.” Or, “Today I am not in the mood, and you can go on heating and heating and I will not evaporate.” Or, “Today I am suddenly feeling very generous towards you so I will evaporate at fifty degrees. I will favour you.” No, the water has no choice. The law is mechanical, it is causal. If you create the cause, the effect has to follow. And it is without any exception.
Because of this law of causality, science cannot believe in the existence of soul, in the existence of consciousness, in the existence of God - because they are non-mechanical phenomena. The very methodology of science prevents it from accepting them; they cannot be absorbed in the scientific world. They will disturb it, they will destroy its whole edifice. They have to be kept out - God, soul, consciousness, love - they have all to be kept outside the temple of science. They cannot be allowed in. They are dangerous: they will sabotage its whole structure. They are causal. But they must be following some other law.
The credit goes to Carl Gustav Jung. The law has been known down the ages, but nobody had named it exactly. He called it ‘the law of synchronicity’. It suddenly happened to a scientist: A scientist a hundred years ago was staying in an old house. In that old house there were two old clocks on the same wall. He was surprised to see that they always kept exactly the same time, second to second: “Old clocks, and so perfect? Not even a single second’s difference?”
Being a scientist he became curious. He put one clock five minutes back, and after twenty-four hours in the morning when he looked again, they were again keeping the same time. Now it was a great puzzle. He enquired… nobody had changed, nobody had touched anything. He tried again and again, and again and again they would come to the same rhythm. Then he tried to find out: “What is happening? - something strange. They are disconnected!”
Then he observed more minutely and he came to conclude: “The vibration of the one clock, which is more powerful, the bigger clock, goes through the wall - just the vibration - and keeps the other clock in tune. It is a subtle rhythm. Nothing is visible.”
That was the beginning of a new phenomenon… then many many more things happened. And by the time Carl Gustav Jung started working on how things happen in consciousness, he came to conclude that the vibe of one heart, if it is powerful enough, can change the rhythm of another heart - just like the bigger clock was changing the smaller clock.
The vibe is invisible. There is not yet any way to measure it, but it is there. It is not tangible, but it functions. It is not causal."
very interesting.
But vibration going through the wall is causal...
Thats not quite what the law of synchronicity says. It’s about finding meaningful symbols in the external world that coincide with your inner. Or rather your inner world creates the external reality you perceive. It’s on a metaphysical layer your thoughts and feelings you program within your subconscious eventually make its way into the physical world. “As above so below” as they say in some circles
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Wonderful presentation. Only one reservation - both sides of the brain have consciousness; one side can have dominance but neither side has a monopoly. Its just a great pity its increasingly the left brain dominating. The ideal is to keep both in mind and to draw from both as appropriate for the circumstances.
Never been early too a video. Just watched the why you must embrace our modern era vid and gained a new perspective. Thank you for sharing your wisdom boyo
For some reason this 2nd dude within me is constantly scanning for spiders and if he detects one he flushes my body with adrenaline.
ha! . you & my sister would get along
There are more than two demons in your head.
Left and right brain consciousness and unconsciousness and the the bit inbetween would direct me to assume 6 lol
Well if he doesn’t do it, who will?
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02:10 this sounds as if you suggest to force affirmations and other forms of "positive thinking" onto ourselves. Although Jung said something like "I'd rather be bad than unauthentic", meaning you don't affirm something onto yourself, if does not come from your real self.
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From Uberboyo to UberMagus....stay forever Jung! Great channel, video and talk. Cheers, from Canada.
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...and the world is dat white bread. Where the whole wheat, the rye, the pumpernickel at?
Frank Herbert addresses these ancestral memories in his Dune novels
in what way
@@Danny-qt5vt in Dune everybody has all memories of their ancestors locked inside them. By drinking the water of life during a ritual Bene Gesserit sisters can unlock these memories. In Denis Villeneuve's new movie Dune Part 2 Paul's mother Jessica (and later someone else) undergoes this ritual. In the following volumes of Dune this becomes more relevant.
Or the memories are in the water???
@@martd1352 I don't think so because after they drink the water they can only access the memories of their specific ancestors.
Thanks, I really enjoyed that. Really makes you think. Well done for making those complex ideas so accessible.
this was amazing and extremely inspiring! thank you!
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Loved the deep breakdown of the topic! Thank you for the vid
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Maps of Meaning is on this parallel course that validates Jung. Bravo, JBP. We are storytellers and language crafters down to the epigenetic and genetic/cellular/mitochondrial level.
My crazy speculation is that buddhist enlightened is the process of moving the seat of consciousness out of the left brain into the right brain.
No, it is gaining full control of the default mode network (DMN), the internal monologue, or voice in your head. A pillar of Buddhist belief is no-self, the that the "you" in "who are you" is an illusion. Meditation is the mental excersice of silencing the DMN and focusing your attention at a single point, such as your breath. With enough meditation, the brain changes structurally and voluntary control of the DMN is acquired. See the work of Daniel Ingram.
Moving into right-brain consciousness would be more akin to magical, shamanistic, or animistic consciousness. Enlightenment is more of a bypassing or muting of left-brain consciousness without necessarily moving into a right-brain frame of thinking
No you are already enlightened you just refuse to see it > it’s not left brain right brain anything > more connected to the pineal gland endocrine system and kundalini >>> also a great Buddhist saying is before enlightenment chop wood carry water after enlightenment chop wood carry water
I think its more like syncing both hemispheres. "You" basically recognicing the dualety inside yourself.
Wasn't the idea of separate left-right hemisphere functions disproven?
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it always bothered me that most ppl couldn't understand that basic primordial instinct is a core ancestral memory
Hey didn’t I just see you somewhere else
makes sense. That would explain why almost all kids are afraid of the dark as children, or even as adults.
It's a survival instict, because, since our species doesn't have a good vision in dark environments, it's a vulnerable place to be in, there could be predators hiding.
or it could really just be how our species evolved to be. since ancient times we learnt to stay away from darkness because there could be predators or unknown dangers there. maybe thus, through natural selection and evolution, we just evolved to associate darkness with danger and back off?
@@68plus1.could be but we’ll never know for sure, or maybe we will figure this out one day 🤷♂️
Excellent. Very interesting, good discussion and explanation. Good use of academic articles to support topic.
This is one of the best videos on Jung I've seen. Fascinating stuff!!
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My left brain: *hears you say Joe*
My right brain: joe mama
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@@CESTLAFDTJEUNEPDBOFA DEEZE NUTZ
It is important to remember that Joe's brain was cut in half. "Joe" is not his left hemisphere surgically isolated from his right. "Joe" as he was born, and as nature intended (if you will), before this radical surgery, includes both hemispheres connected together - interconnected, and working together. The idea that the 2 hemispheres of his brain are inherently 2 separate people is what is "crazy". And further, the idea that the unconscious is one or the other hemisphere of the human brain is crackers, nuts, lunacy, IMHO.
Well done boyo doing a great job of synthesising this knowledge and turning it into a very digestible story 👏
I appreciate your work so much. I love how you explain things. Thank you!
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Thank you for sharing this information! I am currently taking history of psychology and seriously could not understand any of it but this helped SO much.
I don’t know how Jung understood these things without psychedelics. They granted me clarity on so many of his ideas. I thought I understood them, but after a few dozen visits to grandmother’s realm I truly understood.
its because psychedelics allow these thoughts to happen easier in people as they develop temporary psychosis. carl jung was stuck in a bout of psychosis for years which he decided to take as a scientific opportunity rather than a a burden
@@sniperbloom1305 What is the basis of your opinions?
@@Kormac80 psychedelics alter your perceptions of reality beyond recognition. at least they can. and so by definition they induce psychosis. even if only temporarily
Ian’s work is in all honesty has been life changing for me. The matter with things is one of the most important books ever written.
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Frank Herbert infused his Dune books with 'Jung"
Any particular motifs? I will check!
Sauce??
@uberboyo the entire premise of the books is that the main characters get access to the entire genetic memory of their ancestry and their future lineage.
Or he was just a reciptical for the collective to project their energy. Example; a radio is not the signal but a means to access the signal. Switch the radio off and the signal is still there ready for another to pick up the signal. The question is were does the signal come from we will never know!!!!
@@martd1352 You probably going to love the morphic resonance theroy ^^
Morphic resonance is a process whereby self-organising systems inherit a memory from previous similar systems. In its most general formulation, morphic resonance means that the so-called laws of nature are more like habits. The hypothesis of morphic resonance also leads to a radically new interpretation of memory storage in the brain and of biological inheritance. Memory need not be stored in material traces inside brains, which are more like TV receivers than video recorders, tuning into influences from the past. And biological inheritance need not all be coded in the genes, or in epigenetic modifications of the genes; much of it depends on morphic resonance from previous members of the species. Thus each individual inherits a collective memory from past members of the species, and also contributes to the collective memory, affecting other members of the species in the future.
I dug into R-Haplogroup in terms of mapping genealogy and was surprised to learn that Etruscan proto-Romans also possessed it. They seemingly popped up out of nowhere.
Plato spoke as well of the hyperboreans.
What’s your point?
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Great thinkers are invariably labeled as insane heretics by the arrogant masses of thoughtless individuals
And sometimes conspiracy theorists.
Many of these thinkers like Giordano Bruno found themselves being born during the inquisition
@@kelleemerson9510. A Detective is also a "Conspiracy Theorist," until it becomes self-evident that it is no longer a theory.
Good comparison @@BlackestSheepB.Barker
Most of the time what seems weird and crazy, it is just pointing the obvious. A long time ago whoever thought the Earth was not the center of the solar system was targeted as crazy.
Thank you for this! What amazing discoveries and opportunities unfolding all the time! When I first started reading Jung years ago, to where I am now - I’m glad I didn’t give up cause in the beginning I felt really stupid and lost and nowadays it just seems to keep building and building to more and more amazing possibilities
This was grade A mid day Saturday content sir! 🤜❤️
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Your narration of the “guardian angel” sounds a lot like my socially anxious thoughts 🥲
Well done.
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Amazing. Really curious how to communicate with that unconscious side. Seems like a super power to be able to integrate the shadow.
In your sleep
I like the split brain experiment where a dirty joke is shown to the patients right hemisphere during a conversation and she starts to laugh. The person running the experiment knowing exactly why she has begun to laughs asks her why she is laughing and the left hemisphere then not unaware of the joke creates a story which is entirely believes! If that doesn’t scare you then you didn’t understand it. The pragmatic side of our brains that dominates our institutions and academia is delusional and frankly, often bullshitting and unaware of it!
Oh i would like to see that clip
Yes. One hundred agree with the statement. I finished my final exam from college with collective unconscious as main research. Specifically about how collective unconscious can be explained with scientific studies, genetic memory, and epinegetic process
Great video!
I wrote my bachelor’s thesis many thanks to your Aion series. Now I’m graduating from Trinity College Dublin’s Psychoanalytical Studies MPhil. Many thanks:)
Came over from American journal. Harrison shared one of your videos.
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Traced my family tree back to the 1700s in Lusk, Ireland. They came to Canada in 1831. Loved learning about them. Something very profound and sacred about coming upon your great, great, grandfathers gravestone ❤
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The Jungus among us
Very cool video!
Greate video! And btw. On this theme conscious vs unconscious i think you would appreciate NLP and milton erickson spesifically
Nice video & discussion!
The other aspect of Jung that you did not emphasize enough is the idea of the Collective Unconscious.
Hi Stefon, long time no see!
Big ol' shout out to James P D at 45min. Your videos on Aion were my gateway to Stef
Experienced the long night of the soul after a major life change, and it felt like waking up from being unconsciously driven most if not all of my life. I say this as someone completing a PhD. I knew the ideas were important, but I couldn't see the whole shape of how they connected. Now I do, after doing the work to recondition myself following that wake up call.
One of the very best Jung videos I have seen. I've read Jung for about 50 years now, in English and German, and must say that this video did a fairly astounding job of explaining archetypes and other aspects of Jung's fundamental concepts. My Irish genes (there are many) cheered all the way thru the video and are rooting for more such videos in the future. [I also appreciated the comment on the tendency of many of Jung's followers to tie themselves up in obscure and jargon-ridden escapades into the subtleties of Jungian thought. They remind me of hikers who climb Mt. Everest and then retire to the pub to discuss the "intriguing" chemistry of the snowflakes they found on the summit.]
this is brilliant, to speak for an hour without obviously reading from notes yet keep it interesting and on topic. liked and sub'd
Totally fascinating!
This notion of the unconscious hemisphere being a background process that observes subtlties, nuances and patterns...A guiding spirit. A "Daimon". This idea comes from Greek philosophy. It is where the idea of a theological demon comes from. And the psychological demon. But just because we don't understand quite how this guiding spirit works doesnt mean it is evil...We can thank some dogmatic religious beliefs for that ridiculous notion.
A daimon/daemon/demon is certainly not evil. It just becomes more powerful and self-destructive the more you try to pretend it doesnt exist within you. The more you pretend that your conscious mind is in complete control, the louder and crazier the demon becomes. It needs to humble the ego (the left brain) when it becomes arrogant and domineering. It does this in ways that are profoundly unpleasant, so of course egomaniacal people are quick to label it is "bad" or "evil".
This is also why in computer science a "daemon" is a background process that is not under the direct control by the user.
😊me love me some daimon
Yeah, when the man on the camera(Uberbobyo) started making analogies about guardian angels, I remembered about Socrates' daemon.
Maybe Socrates was someone who was so genius, that he had more ""consciouness""/awareness"", more connection with the unconscious side of the brain, with his ""right side of the brain""?
Lol, the subtitles can't handle your Uberboyo accent "Carol Yong was..."
This is all very heartwarming
16:10 The narrator is Alan Alda, who played Hawkeye in the MASH 4077 television show
I thought he sounded familiar
Hey mate, good video. Iain McGilchrist's work has been helping me quite a bit throughout this existential depression / crisis of meaning I'm going through. I have never directly read Jung, however, I am familiar with Jordan Peterson and he is a Jungian, so I know some stuff that I find quite cool. I've been deeply questioning the meaning of life for 6 months now, and I always have thoughts like "wow, if I could believe in the jungian ideas and I could step out of the materialist-nihilist drudgery, I would extract so much meaning out of life". And, boy, having some evidence and discussion around the collective unconscious and on the value of storytelling and symbols livens me up somewhat. I am prone to think that all thoughts are the self, and the self is an illusion, and that is all completely irrelevant, any meaning you distill out of that is a willing dream that you submit yourself to. I could just decide to be happy, and I've been trying for a while now, but it is not easy when you feel the imposition of that "Truth" all the time upon yourself. But then again, people like McGilchrist and discussions like you present us with in your video make me a little bit happier. It makes me want to write again, which is A LOT. Thanks man.
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Enjoying this video mate---needs to include Schopenhauer in the invention of the unconscious ("will"), etc....Henri Ellenberger has a good history of the unconscious
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@uberboyo - Stef, Jill Bolte Taylor’s work is another example of neuroscience corroborating Jung’s model of the psyche. She says her model of 4 characters overlays exactly onto Jung’s 4 archetypes: persona (conscious left), shadow(unc. left), anima/us (conc. right) self (unc. R)
She also names the parts of the brain where they’re located.
Ive spoken to her! shes lovely!
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It's so odd how everything comes back around when you least expect it
For some reason i was drawn to carl jung
life can be magical when we give ourselves the permission to be guided by what draws us, what calls us
Great video... At one point I burst out laughing at the notion that we actually need studies of worms and chickens and mice to accept the idea of having something in common with our ancestors...
World love to see you talk about the ancient Indic/hindu philosophy of Advaita vedanta.
Now add Jungs monism and his work on the paranormal which suggests that the human psyche can have an effect on the physical world.
Love the CGJ revival which is happing for some time now. He has helped me like no other be more content with myself.
I've been listening to 3+ years worth of podcasts and yt videos through my right ear... There will be a study released that mandates I listen to every podcast again through my left ear in order to keep me sane
Great video! I was a charismatic Christian for most of my life and I was deeply spiritual and really believed I had a personal relationship with Jesus and that I could hear his voice speaking to me in my spirit, and receive visions from him in my minds eye, and a bunch of other stuff too.
The crazy thing is that no one taught me “how to hear God’s voice”. It’s just something I figured out on my own when I was a teenager by “going into myself” and quieting my normal thinking mind, until I could hear a still small voice that felt like it was coming from someone else, and often gave me novel information or novel takes on things. And it wasn’t one dimensional. I would feel “the anointing” on my body, and other things that are hard to explain.
Of course, when I got older, I picked up a lot of the charismatic lore about how to do this stuff and make sure you aren’t “deceived”, but fundamentally, it’s just something I figured out by myself. It was just an innate ability. Also, as a fairly lonely kid, I think Jesus became my imaginary friend, and for the most part it’s the only socially acceptable form of imaginary friends for adults today.
A good book on this is “The Illusion of God’s Presence” by Stephen Wathey who is a biologist. In it, he gives examples of how many animals have innate knowledge before they are ever born, like how baby sea turtles just know to go towards the light, because that’s where the moonlight on the water normally is, and how today they can get confused by city lights.
When I deconstructed and lost my faith several years ago, I started really thinking about what all of those experiences actually were. And learning about many of the things you talked about in this video was very helpful. And a few mushroom trips opened my eyes to how vast the inner realm of experience is.
I also want to try DMT one day. It’s so crazy to know that a mere molecule can make normal reality dissolve around you and suddenly you are in a different place altogether. To me, that’s more than ancestral memory and is something that really needs to be studied more like they are doing in the DMTx experiments.
It really makes me question methadological naturalism and the usual evolutionary accounts of how and why consciousness evolved. What’s the evolutionary purpose of being able to be mentally transported into an entirely different reality? But like all things in this area, I don’t know if the biases of scientists are ready to question materialism enough to take on this question and it might just remain in the domain of the “yoga bunnies” as you put it :)
Supposing consciousness DID evolve and come after matter. We're not certain of that, and many throughout history, from the Eastern traditions to ancient Greek philosophers such as Plato, have argued that it's rather in the direction of the reverse. That consciousness/mind is fundamental and existed long before physical, conscious beings did.
One thing people who have visited the DMT realm often say, is that it feels familiar, like they've been there before (or even like they've come home), despite it being so alien. And that it feels more real than this material world. It's not impossible that these realms existed before the physical universe.
@@-RXB- I'm very open to that idea even if I remain somewhat skeptical. I like the approach of advaita vedanta where consciousness is not your individual consciousness but that in which everything takes place like a movie screen on which things are projected on.
Also panpsychism is an interesting philosophy where consciousness is an integral part of reality. Lots of interesting ideas, but how to test them?
@@hypergraphic Yes exactly, I see you're already familiar with these ideas. That's a good question, there's still so much we don't understand about consciousness that I guess it'll be a matter of what one finds most convincing, until (or if) we get something more conclusive from a scientific perspective.
I understand the need to take an Occam's razor approach and assume that it is something that has evolved and is generated by matter (such as a brain), rather than the reverse. It's an interesting idea that would explain a lot of things though.
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fascinating discussion.
His work is notoriously complicated. I heard so much too about how confusing it is that I haven't seriously considered trying to read and understand it
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Just because the right hemisphere is mute doesn't mean the seat of our subconscious resides there. There are individuals whose language capacity resides in both hemispheres and can articulate their rational from either side. You would be hard pressed to identify the actual loci of the subconscious if at all.
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the point you make at @23:00 is life changing when you realize were constantly doing this to ourselves all the time. we act out of our subconcious desires and then our ego rationalizes it and makes all these excuses. marrying these two is the Jungian concept of "Individuation"
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Its crazy how much playing a game like Assassins Creed while growing up, proves itself as an allegory and symbolism for psychology, DNA, Religion and ancient archeology and culture, in a very odd way of connecting these elements as hidden truths, albeit wrapped in a fictionalization. This very thing is one example, as explained from the get go in the very first game in the series, the animus (device) reads the memories of your ancestors from your DNA, which encodes everything that occurs during the course of your life, in order to pass down instincts.