I have three general rules for living. These are general purpose heuristics: Rule 1: We "humans" are in fact storytelling and story-driven animals, technically mammals. "Humanity" (the idea of being human) is a deeply embedded egocentric story (conviction) of ourselves. Rule 2: In any situation or decision, always consider doing nothing. Non-action is not lack of choice; it's a valid option. Rule 3: Learn to like to be wrong in order to grow and be less wrong with time. Simply accepting sometimes being wrong isn't going far enough to avoid unconsciously falling into bias. The psychological desire to be right (validation) is just ego and impedes growth.
Fiction Beast: I've been reading Jung, and others writings about Jung, for several years and have not always felt that I had a clear understanding of what he means. Your concise descriptions (and even the graphic pictorials) aid significantly in gaining a better understanding of his ideas. For this I am very grateful. Thank you.
By far the best Jung Story I have heard ! Acompanied with great Art. I read Jungs Self biography when I was 16 and now, at 52, I understand More. Still walking the path....
Once again I put this in .75 and listened to it before bed. Love Carl Jung. I have the big Red Book, won’t open the cellophane. You have a wonderful command of the English language, and I love your voice❤
@@Fiction_Beast aww. I don’t think you talk fast. If I was doing chores or working out, your voice is perfect. But at .75 you practically sound like Sam Harris❤❤❤
The YT site Humble U explains The Red Book, the black one, too. Not saying I agree entirely with that author’s interpretation but it’s a good effort. Might prompt you to take the cellophane off. Blessings.
I wonder why Hinduism isn't given to much credit for Carl Jung's Genius Philosophy. The west has cleverly ensured to not give credit to any Hinduism which Carl Jung was deeply influenced by from his travels to India.
Wow ,I have just discovered you and I feel like I have discovered a secret exclusive university that is there whenever ai want to dip into it.Your voice and story telling is perfect for me.
Thank YOU very much. I think that a major benefit of storytelling is that it helps us separate ourselves from the fears and anxieties, just like alcohol does. Therefore, the same mental capacity that makes us worry about things that may never happen (anxiety) allows us to escape into the world of pleasant imagination (stories).
Thanks, that was a fascinating and beautifully put-together accompaniment to today's exercise. You made what I imagine is a very complex web of ideas fairly easy to follow.
Hey Fiction beast I would love to see a video easy on what makes a great story. For example the diffrent literary fiction books, how some are trash and other are gems.
It's kind of funny that a smart guy like Freud was so immature as to disown a friend who he called his adopted son because of a difference of professional opinion. Freud must have been massively arrogant and somehow unable to see or correct this in himself despite being so well regarded as a scholar of the mind lol
Thank you so much. You have been a great inspiration and influence on me. Philosophy, books, writers I love. I have finished C.G Jung's "The Red Book" Liber Novus edited and introduction by Sonu Shamdasani. Jung contributed more than Sigmund Freud, I agree totally.
I believe learning language is a human’s innate ability and through storytelling is the most effective way, but not convinced that story itself is innate human nature. (I hope I didn’t misunderstand Jung’s theory. Maybe I’ll read his essay that sits on my shelf). Great video as expected.
I doubt storytelling would be the explanation, it might help but it's not the most effective way , because most of the day infants would be simply listening to their parent's languages and learning that way. Just talking and listening would do. There's no need to correlate it specifically to storytelling.
It can be an argument though. I think, the basics images about surviving, hunting, transzendenz and magic must be naturally similar. For Jung, who was born in a religious family and who wants to believe there must be a difference between human and other animals which is coded in our genes was his Theorie a solution.
Extremely well written. I live alone in the woods. I am a hunter who has been using primitive tools for over 40 years and I have my own philosophy about how things work. For over 20 years the dominant turkey of the valley gets up at the same time. He collects his hens and walks north. He returns at the same time. He made me think that memory is inherited. It is not a coincidence that the most common fear of humans (who once lived in the trees) is the fear of falling. As a hunter I know how many strategies prey use to survive. As with all top predators I must know the wind direction, the lay of the land, the common movements, the escape routes, etc. All predators must solve these problems. Prey only need to lower their heads into grass, which is why predators (dogs, eagles, lions) are smarter than prey (rabbits, deer, chickens). We took this necessary problem solving to new heights like a giraffe took leaf eating. If you could not solve the problem that was the ice age you died out (as did the poor problem solving). If you are reading this your ancestors solved wars, plagues, famines, habitat extremes, etc. Everything from making fire to the Gutenberg bible is a solution to a problem. Problem solving drove our evolution such that everything you own is a solution to a problem or helps to solve problems. When you watch a movie you are watching how others problem solve. Your clothes solve problems, your car, the wheels on your car, the door on your car, the cement walkway from your car to the house, the front door on your house, the light switch on the wall, etc. You even solve problems when you are dead with life insurance. You cannot help it. It all comes from wanting to eat every day. We took the one method of procuring food to a height never reached.
Really astute comment. Makes me grateful others think so. Do you eat the hunted at least though? I personally cant stand hunting as a sport but whatever, interesting points you made.
I totally agree with you. We are here to survive the challenges life throws at us so that we are able to reproduce and the cycle continues. Thank you for the wonderful comment.
Great perspective thank you for sharing. In anthropology we learned about the relationship between primates, snakes and bugs this has always been fascinating to me in how that carroes through instinctively and of course how it is recognized archetypically by Jung.
@@JonSittingStill Thank you. I, too, am fascinated by the same. I feel compelled to mention that I noticed in your reply the two characteristics I find that separates above average intelligence from the norm. That is, "perspective" and "fascinating"(curiosity). I think there should be a "perspective class" in school so that it could increase that ability in others who may lack it. Nicole Tesla said in his autobiography that as a child his father would play the game of guessing what that man is thinking. Einstein's theory of relativity is about perspective. Imagine a world where the criminal could feel like the defendant. I love anthropology as well. I do think, however, they try to personify primitive people as they themselves would think-even while living as far as possible from how primitives live. Please indulge me in one example. A study was recently done to test the penetration characteristic of a clovis point. The scientists then concluded that it lacked enough penetration ability to kill a woolly mammoth. Therefore, the clovis people killed few mammoths and were most likely scavengers. It is now the accepted position in archeology. While reading an old book about finding the source of the Nile river the author described how the natives killed elephants before guns. Basically, they distracted the elephant while a quick hunter with a sharp knife cut the animals achilles tendon and debilitated it. This method does not occur to the archeologists and it nullifies their currently held belief. Thanks again for your compliment. I never get them as how I live. It feels good.
Wonderful video! If the collective unconscious is the software, shouldn’t the metaphor be extended such that the myths, symbols, stories are the programming language? Software may be slightly different and contextual but all are written using the same programming language??
Hey, fiction beast! I really like your videos and learn a lot from them. Can you make a video on Emil Cioran? He's a famous Romanian philosopher with a very poetic language.
The Bible never mentioned, "The Apple" as the forbidden fruit that tempted Eve, but it was the ever forbidden fruit of obsolescent knowledge that leads to spiritual death over consciousness of the Breath. Breathe now!
Interesting turn, moving from the storytelling of great novelists to the psychologist, Jung. Trying to prove his thesis that the great stories lead to the archetypes? That our stories are one key way the human mind reveals its archetypes?😊 For the sake of many who have or will view this, I call attention to a central error in your interpretation: Jung did not go into psychosis in 1913. There is as much difference between psychosis and active imagination as between water and air. Both have oxygen. Does that make them the same? Yes, Jung FEARED his actively imagined visualizations meant psychosis. His genius (which you correctly note) is precisely that he stayed rational throughout his experiences. Neitzsche, who you repeatedly mention, did not. Jung confronted his own deepest self, stayed himself, grew from the experience, systematized and rationally explained his experiences. That’s not only genius but courage. Jung told us NOT to do as he did but to find each one’s own way. I interpret this as meaning using his rational findings as tools for one’s own inner journey. In my experience from working with thousands of souls, the greatest, most powerful archetypes to tackle first on that journey are the Anima and Animus. Women, ask yourself: How destructively have I expressed/not expressed my Animus? Men, ask yourself: How destructively have I expressed/not expressed my Anima? Ruthlessly admit your projections. Do that and you will have begun. Blessings all.
The problem here is that the devil also thinks that the he is the hero and the other one is the devil. Many of us who think we are the moral beings think the same way about people we disagree with. Who is to say you are the hero.
@@Fiction_BeastThank you! You are fast! - and Bravo for this Gem. The explanations, Illustrations etc.. are exceptionally well Made! I learned a Lot of "News" about C.G.Jung his ideas/Theories and his friends, acquaintancies and teachers. Again: bravo! And thank you. Of course subscribed. You are a real scholar in the best sense.
Sure, but that is really beside the point. It doesnt matter if it's an apple, a pear, a pomegranate, or even a worm. It could be anything. The point is in the action of tasting that which has been forbidden. Culturally it has merely become known as an apple.
@@ericephemetherson3964 " The bible is a myth anyway." I agree. It's a story. Unfortunately there are cultural wars based on extreme beliefs from those insisting everyone should believe those stories are history . But regardless of that , the bulk of what Jung is referring to when describing the contents of the collective unconcious is STORIES in one form or another. Whether they are myth or history isn't as important as how culturally powerful and influencial they are. The stories that dominate societies for hundreds, even thousands of years. And the story of Adam, Eve, the serpent, and the tree of forbidden fruit is one of those stories.
@@ericephemetherson3964 That sounds interesting. Could be. We're a much older species than just what we know as the beginning of history. Our ideas of history only go back as far as we've discovered, so far. Most of it may never be discovered. Some stories have undoubtedly been LONG forgotten since they told long before writing was invented, so they weren't written down. But they might still reside in our unconcious.
I have to imagine that, at her marriage to Carl’s father, Carl’s mother was healthy and happy.( she hit all the required boxes to be a “ good wife,” eh?) so, what happened to her? My surmise: Mr Jung was emotionally abusive to her. As in, He treated her with intermittent reinforcement: “ now I like you, now I don’t.” I surmise he used the Silent Treatment with her. And shaming.
Individualization begins with the advent of verbal language and is actualized with the invention of writing, and in particular alphabetical writing. Story telling is a by-product of language and, by itself, has no relationship with the concept of the individual.
I wonder why Hinduism isn't given to much credit for Carl Jung's Genius Philosophy. The west has cleverly ensured to not give credit to any Hinduism which Carl Jung was deeply influenced by from his travels to India.
I really enjoyed this video🥰 However, I would recommend that you read more about Dionysus. The impression that you (or Carl Jung) give(s) here ist very much a strawman which would habe been put forth by the romans oder greek tradionalists. The "Ecstacy" of Dionysus is very much about the beautific vison and the like, and has nothing to do with getting drunk on alcohol. The cult did split and there were way too many excesses. But those are as close to the cult of Dionysus as evangelists fundamentalists are to Christianity. The connection between Jesus and Dionysus that John saliently gives in his gospel is pretty remarkeable. I would argue, that Dionysus is closer to Jesus than to Diogenes
The problem is most of the stories are made up or only partially true. Taking the stories as facts can lead to wrong reactions and their consequences. So it's safer to take every story through the filter and assume it's most likely untrue. Just assess the current reality through observation and use the story be it untrue or partially untrue as 10% factor in the assessment of the current reality. Even IF someone told us untrue stories, they can still be useful by giving us the keywords to pay attention to, while evaluating the closer to the truth version of the reality assessment
Seek greatness, not love can be dangerous when greatness replaces the pain of life, the fabric of life's lessons/training with authority/materialism. Where EQ replaces conscience, the Red Lines between darkness and Light. EQ may not necessary be bad when it has the direction of rationality & conscience. JamesWhiskey
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I have three general rules for living. These are general purpose heuristics:
Rule 1: We "humans" are in fact storytelling and story-driven animals, technically mammals. "Humanity" (the idea of being human) is a deeply embedded egocentric story (conviction) of ourselves.
Rule 2: In any situation or decision, always consider doing nothing. Non-action is not lack of choice; it's a valid option.
Rule 3: Learn to like to be wrong in order to grow and be less wrong with time. Simply accepting sometimes being wrong isn't going far enough to avoid unconsciously falling into bias. The psychological desire to be right (validation) is just ego and impedes growth.
This channel should be in schools curriculum! I learn a lot with your structured videos, can not thank enough!
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Fiction Beast:
I've been reading Jung, and others writings about Jung, for several years and have not always felt that I had a clear understanding of what he means. Your concise descriptions (and even the graphic pictorials) aid significantly in gaining a better understanding of his ideas.
For this I am very grateful. Thank you.
“The Great Danger is Man himself; and we are pitifully unaware of this.” C G Jung (circa 1959)
By far the best Jung Story I have heard ! Acompanied with great Art. I read Jungs Self biography when I was 16 and now, at 52, I understand More. Still walking the path....
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Once again I put this in .75 and listened to it before bed. Love Carl Jung. I have the big Red Book, won’t open the cellophane.
You have a wonderful command of the English language, and I love your voice❤
Love it. A lot of people have commented I speak too fast.
@@Fiction_Beast aww. I don’t think you talk fast. If I was doing chores or working out, your voice is perfect. But at .75 you practically sound like Sam Harris❤❤❤
The YT site Humble U explains The Red Book, the black one, too. Not saying I agree entirely with that author’s interpretation but it’s a good effort. Might prompt you to take the cellophane off. Blessings.
I wonder why Hinduism isn't given to much credit for Carl Jung's Genius Philosophy. The west has cleverly ensured to not give credit to any Hinduism which Carl Jung was deeply influenced by from his travels to India.
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Wow ,I have just discovered you and I feel like I have discovered a secret exclusive university that is there whenever ai want to dip into it.Your voice and story telling is perfect for me.
Thank YOU very much.
I think that a major benefit of storytelling is that it helps us separate ourselves from the fears and anxieties, just like alcohol does. Therefore, the same mental capacity that makes us worry about things that may never happen (anxiety) allows us to escape into the world of pleasant imagination (stories).
Enjoyed the analysis very much. Learnt and confirmed so many pieces of knowledge. Thank you.
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Thanks, that was a fascinating and beautifully put-together accompaniment to today's exercise.
You made what I imagine is a very complex web of ideas fairly easy to follow.
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Hey Fiction beast I would love to see a video easy on what makes a great story. For example the diffrent literary fiction books, how some are trash and other are gems.
It's kind of funny that a smart guy like Freud was so immature as to disown a friend who he called his adopted son because of a difference of professional opinion. Freud must have been massively arrogant and somehow unable to see or correct this in himself despite being so well regarded as a scholar of the mind lol
Thank you so much.
You have been a great inspiration and influence on me.
Philosophy, books, writers I love.
I have finished C.G Jung's "The Red Book" Liber Novus edited and introduction by Sonu Shamdasani.
Jung contributed more than Sigmund Freud, I agree totally.
This channel has been a real gem since I discovered it around September 2022. Do you have a video on Sigmund Freud?
We all are intrinsically the same seek the company of others, imagine being shunned no matter what you do. Painful feeling, it truly is.
My advice is offer value to others so they want to spend time with you.
I believe learning language is a human’s innate ability and through storytelling is the most effective way, but not convinced that story itself is innate human nature. (I hope I didn’t misunderstand Jung’s theory. Maybe I’ll read his essay that sits on my shelf).
Great video as expected.
I doubt storytelling would be the explanation, it might help but it's not the most effective way , because most of the day infants would be simply listening to their parent's languages and learning that way. Just talking and listening would do. There's no need to correlate it specifically to storytelling.
It can be an argument though. I think, the basics images about surviving, hunting, transzendenz and magic must be naturally similar. For Jung, who was born in a religious family and who wants to believe there must be a difference between human and other animals which is coded in our genes was his Theorie a solution.
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Extremely well written.
I live alone in the woods. I am a hunter who has been using primitive tools for over 40 years and I have my own philosophy about how things work.
For over 20 years the dominant turkey of the valley gets up at the same time. He collects his hens and walks north. He returns at the same time. He made me think that memory is inherited.
It is not a coincidence that the most common fear of humans (who once lived in the trees) is the fear of falling.
As a hunter I know how many strategies prey use to survive. As with all top predators I must know the wind direction, the lay of the land, the common movements, the escape routes, etc. All predators must solve these problems. Prey only need to lower their heads into grass, which is why predators (dogs, eagles, lions) are smarter than prey (rabbits, deer, chickens).
We took this necessary problem solving to new heights like a giraffe took leaf eating.
If you could not solve the problem that was the ice age you died out (as did the poor problem solving). If you are reading this your ancestors solved wars, plagues, famines, habitat extremes, etc. Everything from making fire to the Gutenberg bible is a solution to a problem. Problem solving drove our evolution such that everything you own is a solution to a problem or helps to solve problems. When you watch a movie you are watching how others problem solve. Your clothes solve problems, your car, the wheels on your car, the door on your car, the cement walkway from your car to the house, the front door on your house, the light switch on the wall, etc. You even solve problems when you are dead with life insurance. You cannot help it.
It all comes from wanting to eat every day. We took the one method of procuring food to a height never reached.
Really astute comment. Makes me grateful others think so. Do you eat the hunted at least though? I personally cant stand hunting as a sport but whatever, interesting points you made.
I totally agree with you. We are here to survive the challenges life throws at us so that we are able to reproduce and the cycle continues. Thank you for the wonderful comment.
Great perspective thank you for sharing. In anthropology we learned about the relationship between primates, snakes and bugs this has always been fascinating to me in how that carroes through instinctively and of course how it is recognized archetypically by Jung.
@@JonSittingStill Thank you. I, too, am fascinated by the same.
I feel compelled to mention that I noticed in your reply the two characteristics I find that separates above average intelligence from the norm. That is, "perspective" and "fascinating"(curiosity).
I think there should be a "perspective class" in school so that it could increase that ability in others who may lack it. Nicole Tesla said in his autobiography that as a child his father would play the game of guessing what that man is thinking. Einstein's theory of relativity is about perspective. Imagine a world where the criminal could feel like the defendant.
I love anthropology as well. I do think, however, they try to personify primitive people as they themselves would think-even while living as far as possible from how primitives live. Please indulge me in one example.
A study was recently done to test the penetration characteristic of a clovis point. The scientists then concluded that it lacked enough penetration ability to kill a woolly mammoth. Therefore, the clovis people killed few mammoths and were most likely scavengers. It is now the accepted position in archeology.
While reading an old book about finding the source of the Nile river the author described how the natives killed elephants before guns. Basically, they distracted the elephant while a quick hunter with a sharp knife cut the animals achilles tendon and debilitated it.
This method does not occur to the archeologists and it nullifies their currently held belief.
Thanks again for your compliment. I never get them as how I live. It feels good.
Very good video ❤️
Yes… we a species of story tellers. Joseph Campbell’s interviews introduced me to Carl Jung back in the 1980s.
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Wonderful video! If the collective unconscious is the software, shouldn’t the metaphor be extended such that the myths, symbols, stories are the programming language? Software may be slightly different and contextual but all are written using the same programming language??
Hey, fiction beast! I really like your videos and learn a lot from them. Can you make a video on Emil Cioran? He's a famous Romanian philosopher with a very poetic language.
He’s too pessimistic but I love his work. Not sure if others will. Good suggestion tho.
I love Emil Cioran!
@@Fiction_Beast Cioran is pessimistic, but something about his musings is almost therapeutic and relaxing.
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The Bible never mentioned, "The Apple" as the forbidden fruit that tempted Eve, but it was the ever forbidden fruit of obsolescent knowledge that leads to spiritual death over consciousness of the Breath. Breathe now!
I would love to know the books that you studied to do this video!! Great work btw
Thank you .
Interesting turn, moving from the storytelling of great novelists to the psychologist, Jung. Trying to prove his thesis that the great stories lead to the archetypes? That our stories are one key way the human mind reveals its archetypes?😊 For the sake of many who have or will view this, I call attention to a central error in your interpretation: Jung did not go into psychosis in 1913. There is as much difference between psychosis and active imagination as between water and air. Both have oxygen. Does that make them the same? Yes, Jung FEARED his actively imagined visualizations meant psychosis. His genius (which you correctly note) is precisely that he stayed rational throughout his experiences. Neitzsche, who you repeatedly mention, did not. Jung confronted his own deepest self, stayed himself, grew from the experience, systematized and rationally explained his experiences. That’s not only genius but courage. Jung told us NOT to do as he did but to find each one’s own way. I interpret this as meaning using his rational findings as tools for one’s own inner journey. In my experience from working with thousands of souls, the greatest, most powerful archetypes to tackle first on that journey are the Anima and Animus. Women, ask yourself: How destructively have I expressed/not expressed my Animus? Men, ask yourself: How destructively have I expressed/not expressed my Anima? Ruthlessly admit your projections. Do that and you will have begun. Blessings all.
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This collective unconscious memory could just be genuine metaphysical memory
Freud is creepy as hell. Thanks goodness Jung was better
It is a beautiful and inspiring video, thank you!
Where did you get the hardware/softweare metaphor? Terence McKenna?
This is a bad voice, but carl jung is the best, forever and ever! Absteining makes us different!
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Under cooked the roundly due criticism of Jung's more mystical later work, but great video no less.
The song 46 & 2 of Tool is based on Jung's ideas too.
Beautiful composition
Awesome video! But it's not pronounced [Görthe], it's [Göte]
im writing my first movie and using the 12 archetypes for my characters haha jung is best
Epigenetics is truly genetic memory...but not the only type. Nor does it explain every thing.
good point
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The problem here is that the devil also thinks that the he is the hero and the other one is the devil. Many of us who think we are the moral beings think the same way about people we disagree with. Who is to say you are the hero.
The title brought me here, the top comments ensure my attention
21:08 Archetype is not derived from the word archaeology but instead shares a common origin in the ancient Greek for primitive or first. Just sayin'.
Did i say that? You're correct, they share the same archaic origin
@@Fiction_Beast Well, I knew something was wrong there but I had to look it up to whine specifically.
22:29 is it a painting made by E.Munch or E.L.Kirchner? Thank you in advance!
the fairytale forest by munch
@@Fiction_BeastThank you! You are fast! - and Bravo for this Gem. The explanations, Illustrations etc.. are exceptionally well Made! I learned a Lot of "News" about C.G.Jung his ideas/Theories and his friends, acquaintancies and teachers. Again: bravo! And thank you. Of course subscribed. You are a real scholar in the best sense.
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Carl jung the theory of unconsious is same as the concept of sankara in buddhism n hindu philosophy
could you please include your sources, thank you.
🙏 good idea indeed !
First off at 6:17, Eve did not take any bite of an apple. There is no mention of an apple in the bible. The bible specifies a fruit. No apple there.
Sure, but that is really beside the point. It doesnt matter if it's an apple, a pear, a pomegranate, or even a worm. It could be anything. The point is in the action of tasting that which has been forbidden.
Culturally it has merely become known as an apple.
@@bellezavudd OK. The bible is a myth anyway.
@@ericephemetherson3964
" The bible is a myth anyway."
I agree. It's a story.
Unfortunately there are cultural wars based on extreme beliefs from those insisting everyone should believe those stories are history .
But regardless of that ,
the bulk of what Jung is referring to when describing the contents of the collective unconcious is STORIES in one form or another.
Whether they are myth or history isn't as important as how culturally powerful and influencial they are. The stories that dominate societies for hundreds, even thousands of years.
And the story of Adam, Eve, the serpent, and the tree of forbidden fruit
is one of those stories.
@@bellezavudd I agree. I have read lots of Jung. But the collective unconscious kind of tells me what some ancestor of mine thought 100 000 years ago.
@@ericephemetherson3964
That sounds interesting.
Could be.
We're a much older species than just what we know as the beginning of history. Our ideas of history only go back as far as we've discovered, so far.
Most of it may never be discovered. Some stories have undoubtedly been LONG forgotten since they told long before writing was invented, so they weren't written down.
But they might still reside in our unconcious.
"HUMBLY SPEAKING I HAVE PROVEN TO BE A SPIRITUAL PRODIGY.THIS IS A FACT."(14)(GENIUS)
You should talk Constantine Stanislavsky
@3:00 That hairline though
Looks like it's photoshopped haha
Everyone has to do something uniquely their own!? Yeah, that's pretty tough when there are 8 billion people in the world ¿`_
I have to imagine that, at her marriage to Carl’s father, Carl’s mother was healthy and happy.( she hit all the required boxes to be a “ good wife,” eh?) so, what happened to her? My surmise: Mr Jung was emotionally abusive to her. As in, He treated her with intermittent reinforcement: “ now I like you, now I don’t.” I surmise he used the Silent Treatment with her. And shaming.
Individualization begins with the advent of verbal language and is actualized with the invention of writing, and in particular alphabetical writing. Story telling is a by-product of language and, by itself, has no relationship with the concept of the individual.
The concept of the personal unconscious vs the collective u conscious is fucking wiiiiiiild
Adam and Eve ate fruit from the tree whose fruit bore the knowledge of good and evil. Before the fall, there was only good.
Sweet!! 50:00 mins long
So, might we also say that archetypes are sewn into our jeans?
I wonder why Hinduism isn't given to much credit for Carl Jung's Genius Philosophy. The west has cleverly ensured to not give credit to any Hinduism which Carl Jung was deeply influenced by from his travels to India.
You got a good point! Schopenhauer acknowledges his debt to upanishads.
you are absolutely right I would say it is mostly because of jealousy
I really enjoyed this video🥰
However, I would recommend that you read more about Dionysus. The impression that you (or Carl Jung) give(s) here ist very much a strawman which would habe been put forth by the romans oder greek tradionalists. The "Ecstacy" of Dionysus is very much about the beautific vison and the like, and has nothing to do with getting drunk on alcohol.
The cult did split and there were way too many excesses. But those are as close to the cult of Dionysus as evangelists fundamentalists are to Christianity.
The connection between Jesus and Dionysus that John saliently gives in his gospel is pretty remarkeable. I would argue, that Dionysus is closer to Jesus than to Diogenes
Between animal instinct and mechanical robot there is human heart intelligence
The problem is most of the stories are made up or only partially true. Taking the stories as facts can lead to wrong reactions and their consequences.
So it's safer to take every story through the filter and assume it's most likely untrue.
Just assess the current reality through observation and use the story be it untrue or partially untrue as 10% factor in the assessment of the current reality.
Even IF someone told us untrue stories, they can still be useful by giving us the keywords to pay attention to, while evaluating the closer to the truth version of the reality assessment
Seek greatness, not love can be dangerous when greatness replaces the pain of life, the fabric of life's lessons/training with authority/materialism. Where EQ replaces conscience, the Red Lines between darkness and Light. EQ may not necessary be bad when it has the direction of rationality & conscience. JamesWhiskey
Get the stories up to date. Science fiction is the pnly thing inthe ball park.
*Daemon & Freedom* by Daniel Suarez
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Thanks so much!