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Barnfind Ferrari 512 BBi Restoration - I NEED HELP !
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2022
- Its time to get on with the Barnfind Ferrari 512BBI build ...but I need help!
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You should look up retrobriting for removing yellowing from plastics. Its often done with old game consoles (NES & SNES) and old 8-bit computers from the 80s (Commodore 64, Apple II). I imagine the same process would work on the transparent headlight covers. No sanding required. You just need to use a mixture of hydrogen peroxide & water and have a source of UV light (either the sun, or actual UV lights)
I wonder if it would help to put that solution in an ultrasonic bath as well?
I use this trick on aged lego, works pretty good.
@@chir0pter No. The UV light breaks up the H2O2 into H2O and O. I.E. you get a single oxygen atom which wants to bind to anything it can find. This is a form of oxygen bleaching.
@Odd Tinkering
Just wet sanding, polish and clear acrylic spray is all that is needed
Scott
As a former 308 QV owner and current Testarossa owner I am addicted to watching your channel. I am a DIY owner and hugely appreciate the fact that you seek cost effective solutions that avoid the Ferrari rip off's.
My comment is for F*** sake get yourself a work bench in your home garage and make life much easier for yourself.
Best wishes
Greg
i hear you, I love this channel but the clutter around the garage etc tortures my ocd :)
I think we all agree, we should get him one on a serious note!
And a heat gun 😂
His garage is so tiny there just isn't room. I hope that someday he manages to get himself a small shop to work in, something like the small building Edd China used in Wheeler Dealers.
But hey, he has a Testarossa as a work bench, that's pretty cool! :D
If you want yellow lenses for the fog lamps, you could always get the transparent vinyl. When you don't want them anymore, peel them off. It'll protect the lens a little, too.
Why would he want yellow lenses on the fogs? It never had them
@@sathos Did you watch the video? He said he liked the yellow lenses, but was going to go original clear. I was suggesting that he could kind of do both.
Besides the Dino 246 the BBi has always been one of my favourite F cars. And it looks amazing in white. Can't get enough of the videos on yours.
You're no doubt doing a much better job with this renovation than anyone ever did with a new car in Maranello.
_'I hate sanding."_
_'Let's welcome Owain to the channel!'_
Welcome to sanding, Owain.
An audio book is good way to get through the drudgery of sanding.
Hi Scott, for the clear lenses use a UV peroxide bath to remove any yellowing, then wet sand, polish and lacquer the outside. They’ll look brand new
3M finesseIT is good on plastic to polish out the sanding marks
was litterally about to come here to suggest retrobriting the lenses too.
Yep Retro bright, peroxide in the sun will do the trick, the stuff girls use on hair, salon grade, watch the 8 Bit guy, he restores computers using this method. Not sure of the chemical process but seems to work well
Love your vids. Ratarossa, Sam Hard, Matt Armstrong. My new favorite RUclipsrs from across the pond! The UK is killing it in the RUclips car biz.
Love the BBi and the approach you're taking to restoring it!
I know the progress takes a long-time. Keep it going Scott! Can't wait to see the finished product.
You and me both!
Hi Scott. And welcome to the team "O" good to see Scott having some help. Regarding sanding i think everyone hates it but the reality is that preparation is what makes the final result great when we talking about panting, no matter how well you paint, is the preparation was bad the final resul will be bad.:)
So glad to see the BBi back on the channel. I cannot wait to see that beautiful ol’ girl driving again. I have been a long time sub and think you have one of the best restoration channels out there. Yours is one that I literally wait for the new post to watch. Love the content Scott! Sincerely,Thank you!
When removing old stickers, particularly if you want to reuse them, heat the surface up on the opposite side (if possible) for a longer period (though not enough to start to burn the sticker) then use a scalpel so your fingers don’t contaminate the adhesive.
Also heat up the surface you’re applying the sticker onto as this softens the adhesive again, and as it cools it will form an even stronger bond.
Good to see you are back on the rare bbi
Hello Scott. I know the real holy grail for you is an F40. I hope after you beautifully restore and sell the BBI and the convertible Ratarossa, that you will be able to one day purchase your dream F40.
If you go the peroxide and UV resto method (totally recommended for pretty much any sun damaged plastics) please please DO THEM ALL. You may think for example that those orange ones are fine with just a bath but this could be the difference between having half your lenses “like new” and half of them “fine for an old girl”. Great job so far bud.
Totally agree
I really enjoy the the 512 content! One of my favorite Ferraris. I can’t drive 55!
Great project, love every minute of the hours you’re putting in.
Nice to see you encouraging the next generation as well.
Keep up the good work.👍🤠
I'm a BBi fan from Los Angeles! Luv the progress!
thanks buddy
Loved the video today! I Have been watching since well before the the BBI project and look very much forward to see the car finished and its glory restored!
Awesome! Thank you!
Welcome to the Rat side, O! Scott, thanks for the update on the BB; this level of detail always takes 3 times longer than you pessimistically plan for.
The price of parts on the BBI are eye watering 😮
Those Wheels & Tires are Awesome
I think so too!
Great to see progress. It’s going to be superb when done!
Nice to see the BBi progressing as I think this one will be one of your best restorations yet!!
This is Craig in the States, just wanted to say THANK YOU THANK YOU for the new 512 content!!
I wanted to add, I, for one, am super excited that you are doing some of the smaller projects, out of order! The headlights need to be done, why not take a break from some of the other monotonous stuff and take care of some of the more fun stuff! Anyway, I have always loved the BB/BBi, and you have the the best BBi restoration project going, please stick with it, don’t get frustrated!
Can wait to see the BBI on the road again! It will ba a million dollar car when you are done!
Good Day from the USVI. The yellowing on your plastic lenses is from UV damage. The plastic originaly had a UV protectant and that has perished. If you wet sand the plastic with 1500 grit sand paper and it looks clear while wet you can apply a clear coat over it that has UV protectant (most good quality CC) and it will both end up clear and stay that way. If you use a restorer polish system it will quickly go back to yellow if exposed to sunlight. Adhesion promoter hhen clear. 1500 grit scratches are no problem. It will look cloudy until cleared. 2 part acrylic urethane is what I use. Cheers for the videos and good luck.
Those rectangular side markers look just like Mk1 Golf indicator units by Hella. You can get new clear lenses really easily. I’ve probably got some kicking about as well. They were also on early Mk 2 Golfs and Polo Mk1 and 2
They weren't made by Aric, & he wants it 100% original, so that's no good.
My advice;Put the lenses in the dishwasher Scott ,after washing they will be clear again...
Talk to Matt at Obsessed Garage! He knows everything cleaning on vehicles!!
Your doing an awsome job white vinegar can help clean stuff up really good on old plastic I also got some plastic restore agent that's really good to use too but for those light side light on the inside of them where they are all indents you could try an old trick toothpaste and a old toothbrush it's tedious but worth the result
Awsome job! Nerve-wracking to see you pulling the lens from the headlight unit, luckily it all went well. 😀
Yeah, don't get Mat Armstrong to help with that lmao 🤣
@@jonsmith1162 Yes, exactly. That clip ran through my mind as I watched this. 😀
Another fascinating update, the BBi is going to look a treat and well deserved.
'O' keep Ratarossa motivated. We all want to see the 512BBi restored.
Scott, beautiful work as always! I really love what you’re doing with this BBi build, and your attention to detail makes me not feel crazy about the restoration I’m doing on my 77 308 GTB. These cars deserve to be saved and saved correctly. Awesome work!
I'm glued to this series!
Hi Scott have you tried Mother’s Mag & Aluminium polish? Would probably need a nano polisher as well.
Whatever method you use (I’ve even heard of some people using toothpaste 😮) make sure you use some Aerospace 303 UV protectant afterwards to keep them looking bright and shiny.
I was FULLY expecting a manscaped sponsor after the nuts joke 😂
Great effort, its an absolute credit to you. Really enjoying seeing new life breathed into a fabulous old classic.
Best looking Ferrari ever produced
Always glad to see the 512.
I love this car and this series.
Having done this level of work on my Lotus Esprit S1 it's great to see you doing the same on this smashing car. Keep at it, it'll be worth it.
Maybe polish the fronts and use an ultrasonic bath with a special cleaning solution to clean the nooks of the Fresnel lenses?
WOW! Ratarossa, you ROCK!!
Never miss a BBi vid!! Thanks!
Morning Scott! Thank you for dealing with all the stress so we can just watch it all magically happen! 🙌 🧙♂️🏎
Glad to see the progress on the BBi... Getting there, looks good.
Definitely retro brighting ive seen it done on an old nintendo cartridge. Turned it from a thrashed dirty kids game to a collectors item. GL
Scott, You can buy fairly cheaply a 3D scanner now (between £500-£800) so if you can't find a part you need or would be too expensive, just scan it, and print it with a 3d printer (resin for best quality and look while FDM for durability and cost). (or if metal parts have it machined based on the scanned mesh/dimensions)
Great work, some much needed inspiration for me with my own project. It was so cold in my shed this morning the compressor was blowing fuses because the oil was so thick! But we kept at it and banked some progress. A good day for everyone!
Love the videos of the BBi the most, such a great job you do, to make it (almost)new again. So interesting, goodluck!
For the lenses, you can cast your own. Look up the RUclips channel for "smooth on". They sell the materials to make moulds and cast lenses in whatever color you want.
Good to see you back on the BBI. Been a hot minute. Need to get her done before you get on with the Tesatarossa!
Three and a half bags for the orange light! Watching you open that is nail biting and foot tapping! Had to pause for a bit!
I like your work table. Nice upgrade. Thought I’d have to watch you on the ground again 😅
Thank you for the update! You made my day 🙌🏻 What a cool project to follow. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@Ratarossa the BBi is really starting to come together beautifully! Ithe progress is getting really exciting to watch!
thanks buddy
Great progress Scott
Sodium Bicarbonate toothpaste in warm water is great for bringing lenses back to life! (Small circular motion with a wet rag).
I often use this a cleaning-compound when restoring medieval armour, because it is so SO fine.
This is also great for removing scratches from watch and clock-faces, lenses and jewellery.
I rinse off metal with oil, I suggest you rinse off plastic with warm soapy water.
Best wishes from a French forest. 🏆⚒️🇬🇧
Great job Scott, keep up the good work! Can't wait for the next steps!😎👍
I've done a fair bit of work with acrylic, which is what I used to make my speakers from. The polish we used is called Farecla and it will bring it up to a nice finish, but it does leave white residue which you will have to remove. An ultrasound cleaner would probably do a nice job, and you don't need to go very expensive on those. Another tool that helps with this is a Water Pic, which is basically a pressure washer for teeth. That's the brand name for the original product but there are lots of copies nowadays and the one I have now is called Blynx, which you can get from Amazon for under £20. If Farecla (which isn't cheap, and you'll get a 10 years supply in their smallest tin) isn't easy to find then Amari Plastics should have it or be able to tell you where to get it. They are based in the West Country but I think they've got a centre in Park Royal, or used to have. Having said that, it's just a polishing paste, so others of similar grit should do as well. The problem is these plastics are amazingly soft - certainly by comparison to modern paintwork. 2000 or even 3000 grit will still show lines so you'll need a pack that goes to 5000 or 7000. Then, what we do with acrylic is flame polish it, which is a bit of an art not to burn the edges so it's worth practising a few times before doing it on the original part. It's not the end of the world if you do get some burning or bubbling but it'll be back to the sanding and you'll lose a bit of material.
The other thing you could do is make a mould from the cleaned up original and make new ones with clear acrylic. Make the mould up using tooling epoxy and following the instructions in the EasyComposites YT video on mould making. You can get the liquids from Amari, or any other acrylic wholesalers, or you can make it up by dissolving bits of acrylic (which you can buy online from Rohm (superb company too) in either dichloromethane or chloroform. They'll probably be happier to give you dichloromethane but people like to know who's buying both products. If you are impatient you can always go and buy some cheap toothbrushes with clear handles, break them up into small bits and dissolve those. If you want to see how the moulding goes, get some plasticene and press the part into that. It's all great fun and the smell is fantastic! 😄😄😄
PS. I've just seen someone suggesting making silicon moulds. That would be a LOT easier than my suggestion of using aluminium loaded epoxy. I expect you'd be very hard pressed to tell the difference after a little bit of finishing.
Brilliant update! Thank you for continuing to restore this beautiful car 🙂
cheers
When you finally get to drive this machine, it's going to be glorious.
Great video Scott - I was wincing when you split those orange lights!!! LOL! (Hi "O"!!!)
Loving the BBi - that and the 288 best ever IMHO 😎
When it comes to the taillights I have a special trick for you my Dad taught me almost 30 years ago. Cleaning the outside is easy with polishers and plastic buffing compound but getting the insides clean take a little more lateral thought. To this end pour in a half a cup of uncooked rice together with a solution of water, dish soap, and some liquid bleach. With this solution in cover the opening and vigorously shake the lights. The rice will get into all the nooks and crannies and act as a scrub brush which will clean away all the embedded dirt. Once done dump out the rice and rinse it all out with plenty of water and let it air dry. Voila perfectly clean tail lights. Best of luck from Canada :)
Bbi is coming on real well looking good bud
Watching the least thorough guy trying to do a thorough job is kinda fun! :)
love a good bbi update , its by far my favourite project you have going on at the moment !
Hi ! cleaning plastic lenses using the normal dishwasher has worked a treat for me, just don't tell the missus😄
at the least you get a good idea what you're working with after this treatment. usually it's good to go back together.
cheers! awesome project, will follow this for sure.
I've actually put a whole 1275 Mini engine in the dishwasher. 😄😄 No missus back then, but the grey probably never did completely come off the white plastic coating. It worked pretty well, but then the heating re-rusted the cast iron so needed a bit of extra work afterwards. If I did it again I'd take it out wet. LOL.
There nyloc nuts, one use only! It's a lock nut.. great to see you found the nut that suits the resto.
Loving seeing the BBi reborn.
Hi Scott yes, clean n degrease well n retrobright works really well on de yellowing plastics, have had really good result on retro game consoles.
It's a peroxide system n daylight really helps the chemical reaction.
Leave all day in daylight n was off
Hi Owen! Great to sea a new update on the BBi. Can't wait for the finished car mate!
For the lights, a good wet sanding and polishing might be enough. If not, look at what the retro gamers use to revive the yellowed plastic of old consoles & computers
Its a long road and good luck with it and congrats with the progress.
BBi going to look good painted. The 512 body appears to need a ton of work. Will be fun watching future updates.
An Aston Martin Vantage would look good in clear coated bare metal.
comment for the algorithm .. that BB is going to be sweet. Love the white!
Try aqua blasting to restore the plastics. The RS boys do it all the time.
good job, but you asked for ideas for the ratorossa before, my suggestion would be to get a roof made for it, to make it more useable and then restore the interior for now.
Indicators is ARB Bullbar 135x38mm 120mm between screw holes ;)
I'd leave the last bit of rubbing down prep work for the guy who's going to paint it, I'm sure if he's as good at painting as the car deserves he will be thinking oh no who's gone too far with this grrr 😁
Scott, those clear indicator lenses and housing look almost identical to a Mk1 golf indicator. You can buy clear lenses for under a tenner.
i can't wait to see it finished... it will be an absolute piece of art on wheels...Cheers from Cyprus
Looking great scott.
Thanks 👍
It’s coming along nicer there . Attention to detail epic
I prepared some popcorn just to watch your video.
You're either touched ot have the patience of a Saint, best project on RUclips, top stuff.
Keep up the great work. Keep to the plan! Original nuts sounds nuts but it’s the only way to go on a fantastic bit of motoring history.👍🏽👍🏽👏🏼👏🏼
That's the plan!
Scott, i just saw a Testarossa Koenig Evo special spider in blue sera and OH MY GOD! Probably the most beautiful Ferrari models Ever made IMO. I am not sure how impossible it would be to find a Koenig body kit or a Hamann body kit but I would search high and low to make the Ratarossa the worlds most sought after wide body GP look Ferrari in existence. Maybe even update to 512 fascia. Dude. It's just money and you can make it happen. Side note: The small indicator light lenses can be restored with a watchmaker polish called Crystal Clear. Its made for older plastic watch crystals and easy to find but I have polished everything from scratched Compact Discs to actual vintage Rolex watch crystals. Works like a champ. I even managed to restore vintage dirt bike plastics on a older 1980's Kawasaki kx500 restoration I did. Good luck amigo. Build a Koenig dude. Please. Forget the F40 lm rep.
BBI content baby 💥💪🏻👌🏻
So loving this build Scott 🤨🤟
Hooraaaay ! It's back.
LIDL were doing lots of cordless tools recently. 20V 4 amp hour batteries, twin chargers and bare tools. I got an angle grinder, and not being able to think of anything else I needed or would use regularly, stumbled across a cordless heat gun that used the same batteries.
Very handing for heating heat shrink, or removing stickers, drying paint, removing adhesives, etc.
Always happy to see a new bbi update!
I improved lenses from my Fiero by putting them in a rock polisher rolling drum with a fine abrasive and some soapy water and let them roll for a couple days. Silver Polish has a very fine abrasive in it that works well on flat lenses for removing surface fog. rub it on with a cloth and wash off with soapy water. Just check to make sure the brand of silver polish you've got doesn't have any solvent in it that will cloud or melt plastic.
For my old beetle I used Brasso to clean up the lights but as they were cheap I could take the risk.
They came out perfect.
I have heard the Deet (mozzy repellent) works on yellowed plastic headlights but of course you'll need to apply a UV sealant afterwards.