For 4k I would want a lot better than that. I think your score based on the price is about right. I'm not sure I'd be happy with them results if it was 1k either.
In the USA this scope is $4875.00, or after tax over $5,000.00. My new Seestar S50 is doing as good or better a job than this scope. The resolution is almost 4x’s better than the S50 but it does not show in your examples. Thanks for the review and saving me $4500 dollars.
@pilsplease7561 - I kind of agree. My friend just got a Seestar. He sent me several pictures of long exposure images. The stars were way too fuzzy for me. I think I'd pay 10 times as much for 4x resolution.
There is no way this scope is worth that much.. for 4k one could buy an 8' sct. Asi294, a mount and a guide camera and will do much better than this scope and learn more too
You could, but a great many people wouldn't have a clue how to use it. While there's no way I personally would pick this over a full rig, it has it's place particularly for EAA.
Just done the maths, my rig cost less. second hand heq5 and second hand redcat51, zwo533mcpro, zwo120mini, asiair mini, l extreme filter and a power station, for a little over 3k gbp. with practice, it takes me less than 15 min to set up at a dark site. Granted these smart scopes are plug and play, but i wonder if they will leave people wanting more after a couple of months ( if clouds play ball ). The advantage of a mount and OTA, is that you can change the OTA or camera, for a different field of view
each people will get bored quickly with this smart scope and sell it for a real cheap price. so then compare your used to this scope use and you will see a huge price difference not in your favor
Nailed it... it's just not particularly brilliant at anything. Doubly disappointing for the price of admission. According to Richard Berry of the AAVSO, the camera is not even all that suited to photometry - one of the main "citizen science" selling points.
i still think the zwo seestar is so awesome for only 500 bucks. thats the real question. its this other one REALLY worth another 3 and a half thousand dollars over it. thats a huge chuck of change.
it is definitely NOT. Its also absolute NOT worth 4700€. Its not even worth 1500. Id take a Seestar over this any day if i had a need for one. I enjoy my eq rig tho.
This is on the level of what I get with a DSLR, cheap mechanical tracker and vintage telephoto lens. So about 1k total. Meaning the other 3k are for the convenience of auto-stacking, GOTO, etc. Definitely not for me, but I understand the logic behind it, although the marketing is despicable.
Great review and I totally feel the same. I have both evscope equinox1 and seestar s50. I use equinox for clusters and seestar for nebulas. I kinda regret buying evscope now (It was 1,999 USD) but oh well, there wasn't seestar back then. :/ My guess is that nobody will want this over priced gear even in second hand so it will be my buddy for the rest of my life with no choice. So my best usage out of it will be set it as a gear designated for clusters while seestar points out nebula and I'd be playing around with my dob and binos.
I have the Seestar, from what I've seen it's a much better deal. My pics are better than what Damon got with this. But I live in a darker place, so there is that.
Wow this scope not only is overpriced but I can do the same whith a $1000 budget I took a single 30 second exposure of Orion whith a iPhone and mak got better results not 30 minutes!!
I my opinion bit of a scam....sorry to say that :( To get people interested in the wonders of the universe let them first watch a crescending moon with a simple ( but good quality ) 90-102mm refractor and a decent eyepiece, I will never forget the reactions of many people 😉, than show them Jupiter and Saturn on a quit night with little to none air turbulence, priceless. Those 2 planets are priceless! Than show them some more easy starclusters like the 7 Sisters, and maybe on a good night the vague silhouet of Andromeda! I live in the Netherlands and we do not have that many good nights. But showing people the night sky with logical steps ( moon -> planets -> star clusters -> galaxy ) will make them understand what size and distance means for the visual eye. Astrophotography for me, maybe in the future but I really like visual observing. With refractors and bigger reflectors as well, to find and see the faint nebulas/galaxies is so cool.
Stars are so far away, they are actually a point source of light. When looking at individual stars in your EVscope, what you’re observing is the sensor being overexposed.
These « old » smart telescopes were decent before ZWO released the Seestar. With my Seestar, in a Bortle 9 sky, I’m taking way better pictures and it costs 10% of the price. I like what they did with the eyepiece, in a way, but this is WAY too expensive for a beginner astronomer. At this point, just buy a Seestar for nebulas, and ask your local shop to give you a « planet buster scope », like a 6in Celestron SCT. It’s better to see clouds on Jupiter than a soft grey spot in the sky in my opinion.
Completely agree with your review and the rating, you just read my mind throughout the video haha . I guess 8MP is a plus compared to the other options, only if it was around 1K. The eye piece isn't really a plus in my opinion since it's just a screen, why would anyone look through there when you see the exact same thing on the phone. If it was a regular eyepiece you kind of get to see the natural view along with the bright view on the app.
Hi, could you help us find where you spotted that overly detailed image of the crab nebula? It is indeed too detailed and we'd like to remove it. Normally this shouldn't have passed our publication filter but sometimes creators are a bit "stubborn" or do not understand why some details are important (they don't understand why crab nebula cannot be as beautiful as Orion for example, so they forget to correct the content or upload the wrong version without noticing).
I just found your channel and Joined/Subscribed. As someone who was entranced by the night sky (taking astronomy classes during the summer ages 10-12) and still remembering seeing the rings of Saturn through the telescope of a friend of my uncle as a 9yo, please keep your love and enthusiasm.
Very cool review! A flaw I see in all smart telescopes is the alt az design, I wish a company would design one with an eq mount. Also, with the price tag at over 4k for this kind of money you could get a whole setup with harmonic drive mount etc. so I wonder what about this is worth the money in the eyes of the Unistellar team.
I'd rather buy the Dwarf2 or ZWO Seestar S50 for $500 for eaa then buy a beast $3000 Schmitt telescope or 12" Dob for much cheaper. Look at objects live and then use the tiny smart scopes for eaa out reach
Im just starting to get in to this but for the money i think the Sky-Watcher Flextube 400P SynScan 16" is a better scope but its a monster and you need 2 people to almost set it up.
For £4 grand? No chance. Not worth it. I get the attraction of the whole plug-n-play setup, but there are far too many cons in terms of light gathering and raw optical capability that a similar (albeit less approachable) traditional scope + camera setup can attain. As others have mentioned, there's nothing here that gives the user the 6x price premium over the competition in terms of quality of result. Also, it bothers me that they've had a typo on their main product page for some time now. When your product lists a mirror as its primary optical component, it helps if you can spell "mirror". :-/
For $4000 you could build a legit rig that would outperform this: SW GTI mount 533mm or MC 3-400mm apo aith EAF Operating system for 3-500$ and have cash to spare and it would be a legit rig
Hi Damon, four grand…. four grand, four thousand pounds… wow. you can buy a fantastic setup for the same if not very similar money, and end up with much better results… still.. a top end smartphone costs what, £1500-£1700.. It seems a lot. it is a lot.. great review by the way. I think I’d plump for an EQ6r and a W/Optics refractor and really have fun.
Thanks for sharing. I’ve seen those telescopes. Glad I never bought one. I bought a 8 inch Dobsonian by apertura around 635 and bought some extras spent around 870.00 very happy highly recommend it
Dude I like your videos, but this smart scope is way over priced.. the little seestar has better photos. For 500 dollars.. they should have put a much better camera sensor in this. For that price it could easily have a full frame sensor and internal filter wheel.. additionally it’s alt ax vice we mount… you could build a red cat 61 build w AM3 for almost same price
I’ve got the Seestar S50. My Galaxy and Nebulae images are much better in the Seestar than what you showed. The planets are pretty close as I get 2 bands on Jupiter. I do have better skies in Maui but I’m close to a major street so there is still lots of light pollution. And of course price makes this no contest.
Ive been seeing a lot of strange lights in the night sky consistently for a few months now in Somerset UK. They appear after 3am and stay for an hour or so. I've been able to capture quite a lot of footage on my phone and it's on my channel if you'd like to see. Would love to speak to anyone else who may have seen these lights. Many thanks.
Love to see a critical eye on new stuff, specially ultra expensive stuff like this. A lot of people don't include the variable money in the equation and I think it's one of the most important, specially among beginners
amazing love the content dude i found you a few months ago and recently your videos have popped into my recommended and it's always amazing and interesting keep it up
Thankyou for a very good, frank and honest review. These new smart scopes are a real game changer on the few brief clear nights we get here in the UK. Assemble, power up, level, calibrate and off you go. In a few minutes you can evaluate what you’re getting and off you can go back in the warm whilst it autonomously performs its imaging run. And, if the cloud rolls in again you can easily call it a night and bring it back in again in minutes. I still love my older gear and the ritual of setting up, aligning and all that, but these new scopes really come into their own in how quick to set up and portable they are. Great for travel, holidays abroad, or outreaching with folks that have never used a visual telescope beforehand.
Hi mate, just wanted to say your channel is great and every time I watch a video of yours I find myself inspired, gazing up at the sky that night in wonder. Keep it up!
Excellent review. The real killer is Jupiter and Saturn. Probably the 2 most viewed objects (not counting the moon, which I’m surprised you didn’t include in your review) people want to see in a telescope. I’d be embarrassed to show those planets to anyone with that telescope. Especially one the goes for over $4K. An inexpensive 90mm or 102mm refractor would give better quality views for less than 1/10 the cost. I’ve got a Celestron 102mm Star Sense refractor which I just checked can be bought for under $400. and when used with your smart phone gives you a simple way to find objects in the sky, and very nice views of Jupiter and Saturn, even the Orion Nebula. Again, excellent review. Thanks for the post. 👍🏻🍻😎
I went outside in -15 Canada and saw Jupiter and its 4 Galilean moons for the first time in my life! It was amazing!!!! You never want to stop looking at it💜💜 The telescope is a celestron AstroMaster LT 70 , I used a 6mm. I just wanted to share this with everyone here lol 😄
My husband just spent 5.199.00 dollars on this telescope for my birthday and your review took all the excitement i have away lol 😅
Finally an honest review.
didn't even watch yet but i just know this is another banger from damon
$500 will get you a smart scope every bit as good.
Why would you spend 4k to look at blurry images of planets? Honestly astronomy is the most idiotic waste of money imaginable.
It's not blurry if you've got a decent set up and you know what you're doing.
I have a 10-inch dob, and I can see jupiter as if it was a picture. Saturn is amazing. The scope only cost 950$
This is very poor for the price, my Seestar does better
For 4k I would want a lot better than that. I think your score based on the price is about right. I'm not sure I'd be happy with them results if it was 1k either.
yeah 1000 dollar camera on your home 8 or 12" sct will look way better than this shit.
All of his reviews are so much help about what you should and shouldn't buy. Very helpful
For $4,000 it’s an absolute scam!!! If all it can do is galaxies and nebula get a get the dwarf for $499 and get way bigger please don’t buy this crap
In the USA this scope is $4875.00, or after tax over $5,000.00. My new Seestar S50 is doing as good or better a job than this scope. The resolution is almost 4x’s better than the S50 but it does not show in your examples.
Thanks for the review and saving me $4500 dollars.
The seestar is awful, the sensor is awful, the focal length sucks, it produces washed out colors and grainy poor res images.
@pilsplease7561 - I kind of agree. My friend just got a Seestar. He sent me several pictures of long exposure images. The stars were way too fuzzy for me. I think I'd pay 10 times as much for 4x resolution.
Planet view is a true let down on such as pricey piece.
There is no way this scope is worth that much.. for 4k one could buy an 8' sct. Asi294, a mount and a guide camera and will do much better than this scope and learn more too
8" not 8'
@@ma-fi1nu I think a 8' sct would be a bit more than 4k, lol
You could, but a great many people wouldn't have a clue how to use it. While there's no way I personally would pick this over a full rig, it has it's place particularly for EAA.
Try night vision googles for teleacopes @@Reverend-JT
Sadly it is and it has robbed many people that are misled
Just done the maths, my rig cost less. second hand heq5 and second hand redcat51, zwo533mcpro, zwo120mini, asiair mini, l extreme filter and a power station, for a little over 3k gbp. with practice, it takes me less than 15 min to set up at a dark site. Granted these smart scopes are plug and play, but i wonder if they will leave people wanting more after a couple of months ( if clouds play ball ). The advantage of a mount and OTA, is that you can change the OTA or camera, for a different field of view
each people will get bored quickly with this smart scope and sell it for a real cheap price. so then compare your used to this scope use and you will see a huge price difference not in your favor
Nailed it... it's just not particularly brilliant at anything. Doubly disappointing for the price of admission. According to Richard Berry of the AAVSO, the camera is not even all that suited to photometry - one of the main "citizen science" selling points.
Watching review of $4000 telescope with ₹500 in my pocket 😂😢
i still think the zwo seestar is so awesome for only 500 bucks. thats the real question. its this other one REALLY worth another 3 and a half thousand dollars over it. thats a huge chuck of change.
it is definitely NOT. Its also absolute NOT worth 4700€. Its not even worth 1500. Id take a Seestar over this any day if i had a need for one. I enjoy my eq rig tho.
This is on the level of what I get with a DSLR, cheap mechanical tracker and vintage telephoto lens. So about 1k total. Meaning the other 3k are for the convenience of auto-stacking, GOTO, etc. Definitely not for me, but I understand the logic behind it, although the marketing is despicable.
Great review and I totally feel the same. I have both evscope equinox1 and seestar s50. I use equinox for clusters and seestar for nebulas.
I kinda regret buying evscope now (It was 1,999 USD) but oh well, there wasn't seestar back then. :/
My guess is that nobody will want this over priced gear even in second hand so it will be my buddy for the rest of my life with no choice.
So my best usage out of it will be set it as a gear designated for clusters while seestar points out nebula and I'd be playing around with my dob and binos.
Don’t think it’s worth $5K. I think the Seestar or Dwarf II might work better for me at 10% the price.
I have the Seestar, from what I've seen it's a much better deal. My pics are better than what Damon got with this. But I live in a darker place, so there is that.
Wow this scope not only is overpriced but I can do the same whith a $1000 budget I took a single 30 second exposure of Orion whith a iPhone and mak got better results not 30 minutes!!
I my opinion bit of a scam....sorry to say that :( To get people interested in the wonders of the universe let them first watch a crescending moon with a simple ( but good quality ) 90-102mm refractor and a decent eyepiece, I will never forget the reactions of many people 😉, than show them Jupiter and Saturn on a quit night with little to none air turbulence, priceless. Those 2 planets are priceless! Than show them some more easy starclusters like the 7 Sisters, and maybe on a good night the vague silhouet of Andromeda! I live in the Netherlands and we do not have that many good nights. But showing people the night sky with logical steps ( moon -> planets -> star clusters -> galaxy ) will make them understand what size and distance means for the visual eye. Astrophotography for me, maybe in the future but I really like visual observing. With refractors and bigger reflectors as well, to find and see the faint nebulas/galaxies is so cool.
The same telescope without the eyepiece, so smartphone only, is about 40% less. Would that change your rating?
nah 4K for that is FUUUCKED
So I can buy eight SeeStars for its price. lol Just sad.
Well. I was gonna buy this, but thanks to your review, that's a no for me.😊
Stars are so far away, they are actually a point source of light. When looking at individual stars in your EVscope, what you’re observing is the sensor being overexposed.
These « old » smart telescopes were decent before ZWO released the Seestar.
With my Seestar, in a Bortle 9 sky, I’m taking way better pictures and it costs 10% of the price.
I like what they did with the eyepiece, in a way, but this is WAY too expensive for a beginner astronomer.
At this point, just buy a Seestar for nebulas, and ask your local shop to give you a « planet buster scope », like a 6in Celestron SCT.
It’s better to see clouds on Jupiter than a soft grey spot in the sky in my opinion.
Completely agree with your review and the rating, you just read my mind throughout the video haha . I guess 8MP is a plus compared to the other options, only if it was around 1K. The eye piece isn't really a plus in my opinion since it's just a screen, why would anyone look through there when you see the exact same thing on the phone. If it was a regular eyepiece you kind of get to see the natural view along with the bright view on the app.
Great video dude! Absolutely extraordinary views from that little thing, keep it up! ❤🌌
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Me too
I got the dwarf 2 on Christmas
Respect for the honesty, It's a lot of money.
Hi, could you help us find where you spotted that overly detailed image of the crab nebula? It is indeed too detailed and we'd like to remove it. Normally this shouldn't have passed our publication filter but sometimes creators are a bit "stubborn" or do not understand why some details are important (they don't understand why crab nebula cannot be as beautiful as Orion for example, so they forget to correct the content or upload the wrong version without noticing).
I just found your channel and Joined/Subscribed. As someone who was entranced by the night sky (taking astronomy classes during the summer ages 10-12) and still remembering seeing the rings of Saturn through the telescope of a friend of my uncle as a 9yo, please keep your love and enthusiasm.
That's amazing! Thank you very much, will do! 😁😁
Great review, thanks. Will you be doing a review of the Vaonis Vespera 2 or Pro scopes?
Very cool review! A flaw I see in all smart telescopes is the alt az design, I wish a company would design one with an eq mount. Also, with the price tag at over 4k for this kind of money you could get a whole setup with harmonic drive mount etc. so I wonder what about this is worth the money in the eyes of the Unistellar team.
Yeah! Good to see you again. Good review!
Your face when you see your girlfriend
😂😂😂😅
I would love this but I’m still trying to get my hands on the dwarf labs 2
This is weird but I had dream about u Damon, today. What are u doing there ?😂😂
$1,999 U.S. June 2024 Sams Club Honolulu. Thanks for the direction. I'm gonna pass and visit the planetarium instead.
least portable of all.
I did finish the video, but I will save everyone time by telling you you can get the same if not better image's and only spend 500$ . Seestar s50.
I'd rather buy the Dwarf2 or ZWO Seestar S50 for $500 for eaa then buy a beast $3000 Schmitt telescope or 12" Dob for much cheaper. Look at objects live and then use the tiny smart scopes for eaa out reach
Im just starting to get in to this but for the money i think the Sky-Watcher Flextube 400P SynScan 16" is a better scope but its a monster and you need 2 people to almost set it up.
For £4 grand? No chance. Not worth it. I get the attraction of the whole plug-n-play setup, but there are far too many cons in terms of light gathering and raw optical capability that a similar (albeit less approachable) traditional scope + camera setup can attain. As others have mentioned, there's nothing here that gives the user the 6x price premium over the competition in terms of quality of result. Also, it bothers me that they've had a typo on their main product page for some time now. When your product lists a mirror as its primary optical component, it helps if you can spell "mirror". :-/
This is a great review, very detailed and truthful. Thanks Damon!
I just purchased one barely used at a mere fraction of the price. I think that’s the ticket.
disappointing results, the image through the eyepiece is on a screen? lolwut
Love the review, but could do without the background music in those few parts of the video. Makes it hard to hear you talk over it.
Tbh i would rather manually edit my photos and stack and stuff rather than a computer doing the stuff for me
for 5k, you can get much better images period. This thing is useless.
I think this astro-instrument is meant to peer at distant objects like galaxies.
Great review. Looking for a review like this for the Origin also.
I would rather own a seestar S50 and a goto 8 inch dob than to have this at this price.
Back with a new video already 😅
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Vespera blows this away and it's only $1500..
dwarf ii blows it out the water for 90% off the cost
I love you sir
For $4000 you could build a legit rig that would outperform this:
SW GTI mount
533mm or MC
3-400mm apo aith EAF
Operating system for 3-500$ and have cash to spare and it would be a legit rig
Your design and layout skills are beyond amazing 👏
YES!! I was waiting a new damon scotting video and there it is! You are best!
😊🙏
Hi Damon, four grand…. four grand, four thousand pounds… wow. you can buy a fantastic setup for the same if not very similar money, and end up with much better results… still.. a top end smartphone costs what, £1500-£1700..
It seems a lot. it is a lot.. great review by the way. I think I’d plump for an EQ6r and a W/Optics refractor and really have fun.
Thanks for sharing. I’ve seen those telescopes. Glad I never bought one. I bought a 8 inch Dobsonian by apertura around 635 and bought some extras spent around 870.00 very happy highly recommend it
Dude I like your videos, but this smart scope is way over priced.. the little seestar has better photos. For 500 dollars.. they should have put a much better camera sensor in this. For that price it could easily have a full frame sensor and internal filter wheel.. additionally it’s alt ax vice we mount… you could build a red cat 61 build w AM3 for almost same price
I own the less expensive Unistellar and the ZWO SeeStar. I have owned the Dwarf II (don’t buy it). I like my SeeStar the best.
I’ve got the Seestar S50. My Galaxy and Nebulae images are much better in the Seestar than what you showed. The planets are pretty close as I get 2 bands on Jupiter. I do have better skies in Maui but I’m close to a major street so there is still lots of light pollution. And of course price makes this no contest.
I just bought the seestar s50, hope its good!
i had the original equinox...great kit..but sold it just recently...now have a dwarf 2...and thinking of getting seestar next
I live in my country's capital, can't really see anything but I can go to my grandma's and watch. I don't have a telescope, wish I had one.
Respect!👍
Ive been seeing a lot of strange lights in the night sky consistently for a few months now in Somerset UK. They appear after 3am and stay for an hour or so. I've been able to capture quite a lot of footage on my phone and it's on my channel if you'd like to see. Would love to speak to anyone else who may have seen these lights. Many thanks.
Bruh I had a better one LOL❤
Good sir, The dwarf IIs new firmware came out, curious what you think.
WOW! 2k views in just 6 hours?! That’s impressive
$2500 at sams club
Ill stick to my vaonis vespera which takes amazing images.
Honestly, my $499 Seestar s50 takes better images without processing. After processing, the Seestar s50 blows that $4000 scope away.
don't be silly
@@rockmusicvideoreviewer896 A 500 dollar telescope can literally do better images than that 4k telescope
Ar best buy is 5700$
My dwarf 2 (~$400ish) gets better pics than this!
ok, sure, mr. jelly
I think that these "Smart" telescopes take the fun away of telescopes.
I love my evostar and dwarf.❤ 1/10th the cost.
It’s the Balenziaga of electronic telescopes. 😂
Love to see a critical eye on new stuff, specially ultra expensive stuff like this. A lot of people don't include the variable money in the equation and I think it's one of the most important, specially among beginners
13:01 what is that on the left corner, it emerges and then sets away?😮
Probably a satellite
Thanks mate for the honest review and you have saved $4k
amazing love the content dude i found you a few months ago and recently your videos have popped into my recommended and it's always amazing and interesting keep it up
Does it have bandpass/solar/lunar filters?
Thankyou for a very good, frank and honest review. These new smart scopes are a real game changer on the few brief clear nights we get here in the UK. Assemble, power up, level, calibrate and off you go. In a few minutes you can evaluate what you’re getting and off you can go back in the warm whilst it autonomously performs its imaging run. And, if the cloud rolls in again you can easily call it a night and bring it back in again in minutes. I still love my older gear and the ritual of setting up, aligning and all that, but these new scopes really come into their own in how quick to set up and portable they are. Great for travel, holidays abroad, or outreaching with folks that have never used a visual telescope beforehand.
Never stop bro, I also want to have a telescope and point it to the eternity ❤
Hi mate, just wanted to say your channel is great and every time I watch a video of yours I find myself inspired, gazing up at the sky that night in wonder. Keep it up!
Are you going to review the Celestron Origins?
I'll stick to my Dwarf II thank you
My seestar seems about the same but was only $500
Really good video! I like that you are honest and realistic. You didnt let unistellar letting you try it out affect your review. Very helpful!
how have i not heard of this one yet
A fair review. Thanks for sharing.
These telescopes better not steal my hobby
I agree with your assessment
Excellent review. The real killer is Jupiter and Saturn. Probably the 2 most viewed objects (not counting the moon, which I’m surprised you didn’t include in your review) people want to see in a telescope. I’d be embarrassed to show those planets to anyone with that telescope. Especially one the goes for over $4K.
An inexpensive 90mm or 102mm refractor would give better quality views for less than 1/10 the cost.
I’ve got a Celestron 102mm Star Sense refractor which I just checked can be bought for under $400. and when used with your smart phone gives you a simple way to find objects in the sky, and very nice views of Jupiter and Saturn, even the Orion Nebula.
Again, excellent review. Thanks for the post. 👍🏻🍻😎
it's not designed to photograph planets and the moon. it's for DSO
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Thanks, didn’t realize it was only meant for DSO’s
So, $4K and limited uses….lol.
Love ur vids so much man❤❤❤
I went outside in -15 Canada and saw Jupiter and its 4 Galilean moons for the first time in my life!
It was amazing!!!! You never want to stop looking at it💜💜
The telescope is a celestron AstroMaster LT 70 , I used a 6mm.
I just wanted to share this with everyone here lol 😄
-15!!! Only fellow astronomers will appreciate this level of commitment and the reward of seeing Jupiter and its Moons! Thanks for sharing mate 😁