Is THIS the BEST SMART Telescope in the world? 🤔🔭
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My Seestar is my only telescope that impresses the newbies and the hardened astrophotographers in my club alike.
For real? I must say I do experience some level of wonder in people when I show images taken with my overly-complicated traditional astrophotography rig.
@@marbasfpv4639at first glance the seestar might seem better but it is what it is
Please do a video of your editing process for the S50.
Thanks for your great review. I'm a newbie to astronomy and recently purchased a Seestar 3 months ago. I am very happy with the product and it's results. My family and friends are totally impressed with the beautiful pictures of the cosmos I have been able to produce from Palm Springs California. I especially like the aspect where I can link the Seestar to my iPad and operate it from my car or inside my home. I can set the target, my timer i.e. 1 hour and enjoy a nap while Seestar handles the heavy work and delivers the final pictures to my iPad. It was the best $499 I ever spent. Viva Seestar.
People can say what they want about the seestar but its honestly the only scope ive ever owned that has impressed people with no knowledge of astronomy, and its even gotten some of my friends more interested that otherwise would have no idea its even possible to see things like this in the night sky.
Because of it's low price point, many people are experimenting with it: mosaics, putting it on an EQ wedge, writing scrips for plan shooting. While the beginners are having fun with it, the experienced astrophotographers and hackers are pushing the Seestar to its limits. Fun for all! If I only have one or two hours of clear skies, I don't take out my big rig, I take out the Seestar.
The Seestar is just proof that prices are being artificially inflated. The Seestar is as capable, if not more so than the Unistellar, yet the price is so much more affordable. Cheers to Seestar for being honest and making a quality product for a reasonable price.
Makes you wonder if Unistellar is paying for 5 star reviews , and if that's the case the review outlets themselves should be in question as well
No way they aren't. Everything is so insanely overpriced on their site
Great video as always Damon thank you. I recently got an s50 and although I am really impressed with its performance i have not achieved images as beautiful as yourself. If you were considering future video ideas can i suggest one on editing? What software do you use, which edits are needed, what bortle skies do you shoot from etc.
Definitely! Probably you use windows desktop apps. It would be great to see what are the best options for MacOS and Android/iOS, too.
Im a UK Veteran and always loved anything to do with space. Ive never done anything to do with space apart from my own interest and in some of the places i have served around the world i have seen the milky way etc with the naked eye in very remote places and its amazing to see. I was fortunate to purchase S50 in the last year and it was amazing to see what it could capture. The UK has been horrible over the past year for weather but when it allowed me and my kids have loved it
I still prefer my 6” APO for the incredible performance it puts out. But I find that while I run it I always set up the Seestar S50. I love how small it is. I can take it with me places that I could not take my 6” APO, especially quick road trips where space is a premium. After I got a fantastic image of the Witch Head nebula I began to use it all the time. I would love to see a future iteration of this with a larger aperture like 80mm with a larger sensor that rotates.
Thanks for another awesome video!
Seestar 499 USD, Wel in Europe it is around 700 Euro (751 USD)
What about the Vespera? That one is around $1400.
My friend sent me images from his Seestar. I wasn't thoroughly impressed. The stars were too fuzzy for me.
Vespera has still no dark substraction will come in the next 5 to 6 months via firmware upgrade. Its like the seestar has no mosaic seems to be planned for 2025, but there ar rumours that it wil be implemented in a pro version of teh seestar
The Seestars50 is probably what I'd go for. Helpful video Damon!
Seestar looks great, wasn't readily available in my area so I went for the Dwarflab. So far I'm more than happy with it and it suits my needs perfectly.
I've had my Seestar S50 since November and love it, but had frustratingly few opportunities to use it because of the weather in the UK this winter. I still need to learn how to process the images to get them looking as good as yours.
Imagine the increased frustration if you didn’t have a smart telescope. I have taken time to set up my equatorial mount only for the clouds to roll in and then have to put it away again. With this there are far more opportunities in the UK than traditionally available. Glad you are also enjoying it like me.
the cool thing is you can just let the fits files pile up on the scope and when you're ready you can stack them on a pc. I'm kinda amazed how little of the space i've used
just got my seestar , great scope
Thank you. I enjoy my SeeStar. You should talk with Ed Ting, he panned the SeeStar.
I decided to get the Seestar S50 after careful consideration and much research. I have not been disappointed. What a fantastic bit of kit. And ZWO are still upgrading the firmware and capability, so it will only get better. Could not recommend more.
I have had the Seestar for 3 months now and have loved every minute using it. As a newcomer to the field, the ease of entry and low price point makes it a no brainier. The big question now is…will the Celestron Orion offer enough to make it worth the £4K or will the Seestar kill it before it even steps into the market? The scope looks great but the sensor is underwhelming and it’s still not an EQ mount device. Fingers crossed that someone brings a smart scope to the game that meets those needs too.
Well said, Andy! You're bang on with your points! I'm also excited to see what the Orion origin will produce 🤞
@@DamonScotting Here’s hoping you get a unit to play with. I’m a stone’s throw from Kelling Heath if you fancy coming across to the east coast to give it a go!
If you look in the Celestron Origin coming feature, you have the easy polar align and compatibility with the Nexstar 6/8SE wedge.
You truly inspire me
If you have the budget, I would wait a few weeks and see how the new Celestron Origin compares.
[Damon, thank you for an awesome analysis!]
The S50, as a standalone device is definitely at the top of the purchase list. Except - the sensor. 2MP is anemic. Yes, I realize MP isn't everything. To compensate, it needs to be a larger sensor to accommodate those increased MPs, hence a change in optics, focals, lenses, etc. But those technicals notwithstanding... and my initial hesitation.
Damon - but, you questioned the company on if they were planning on an (S100) upgraded [version 2] scope. As you stated for their response, the company is perhaps still catching up to whatever backlog in manufacturing and aren't considering an update/V2.
Physical manufacturing doesn't impede engineering of, or even the thought of, an updated Version 2. But they shut the thought down; and that concerns my pocketbook for long-term viability of a product line.
I look for long term viability of a product and supporting company, not one that is resting on its laurels. Even at double $/€/£ for an "S100" compared to the existing S50; it's not about the money, it's the long term outlook of a company in support of a product line.
LOVE the standalone/S50, not comfortable with the company reaction. Hopefully they will change their outlook.
I agree on the Seestar S50 has the best price to quality ratio. But to make the who is who of smart telescopes complete, you should take a look at the devices from Vaonis. Their Vespera telescopes offer a build in mosaic mode (called CovalENS) that creates a much larger field of view over time. The first Vespera that came out two years ago has the same sensor then the Seestar S50 and with 200mm focal length is pretty comparable. The new version Vespera II and the upcoming Vespera Pro have much bigger sensors with higher resolution. The are more expenisve compared to the Seestar and DWARF, but not as high as the Unistellar devices.
I bought the Seestar S50 on pre order and it only cost me 405 from high point. It has been a wonderful telescope and I have taken tons of great images with it. I love your videos, keep up the good work!
Great review. I have been into amateur astronomy now for the last 40 years. Have seen major changes in this period. The Seestar is a paradigm shift in amateur photography , and its price is available to all people who may have an interest in the night sky, which is a good thing. My Astro rig can take up,to 1 hour to setup, collimate, let the mirror acclimate and hole it doesn’t cloud over. SeeStar lets me setup in under 5 minutes and easy to move.
I've owned a Dwarf 2 since Christmas. Paid less than 500 euros. Fantastic product that gave me the pleasure of "traveling" in the cosmos! The emotion I felt photographing comet 12P/Pons-Brooks was pure magic. I can never thank Dwarflab enough for creating a product accessible to all star lovers. The Seestar is certainly an excellent product but in Italy it costs 769 euros!!! So at least in my country Dwarf 2 wins the price/quality award!
Damon scotting video - instant click. Keep making videos dude, you've got big potential to be one of the top astro youtubers
Thanks to you doing all the dirty work, my seastar s50 is on its way. I’ve had a few cheap scopes in my time but nothing sophisticated enough to see more than the moon. I’m thrilled.
Great review, I saw a review the other day from another reviewer who recommend people wait, but for $500, my recommendation was to go for it and have fun! Thanks for your perspective on these three smart scopes.
love my Seestar. It’s pretty easy to set up and get going fairly quick. Within about 5 mins, starting with 🎉walking into the backyard, powering up, selecting a target, and it doing its calibrations. My plan is to use my 8” Dobsonian next to and using the Seestar, kind of as a seeing eye dog to help me find what I’m looking for or, and at in my Dobsonian.
The bottom line for me is, I can see a lot more with Seestar than I have experienced with my telescope and in a fraction of the time and ease of using.
The downside so far is that I’m not impressed with the moon and planets in the Seestar but I haven’t really experimented with to see if I could do something different to get some better outcomes.
Hi, I really need your advice.
Which telescope to choose not only for astrophotography but also for animal photography. This is my first telescope. Thanks
I don't really get what they point of having a fake eyepiece on the eVscope is, if it's just a screen why not just let me look at the full screen instead of forcing me to look through a tiny eyepiece? Having the eyepiece there just seems sorta deceptive and gives the impression that I can actually use this for visual astronomy.
at 11:54 why can't you just pan out (zoom out) on the EvScope 2 so it fits in the screen? fits in the screen, cuz you are using the exact same focal length for each one or? or can you not adjust length at all? or frame that is? can;t i just zoom out .. perhaps there are no zoom adjustments at all and you get what you get? or perhaps its diffraction limitations? never used a telescope of any kind so please excuse my ignorance . . . TY
I love my Seestar! I imagined the eclipse with it and captured an amazing video of the 3rd point of contact and second diamond ring. It is so flexible. Just the best for the money and convenience.
I bouth a S50 two months ago and as an absolut beginner i am in love with that thing. It is cheap, it works and it allows me to make my first small steps into astronomy without forcing me to research for hours when, what and why i can see a stellar object in the night sky viewable from my balcony. :)
The Seestar is truly incredible! 🎉
These are just awesome. I am still looking for a an EQ 6 mount but they are more rare than chicken teeth here. I found an EQ 5 a few weeks ago, but still hoping for a 6. Maybe I'll end up with one of these instead. :)
I have the Seestar S50 and it's amazing! it even came with 4 months worth of cloudy nights for free 🤣
Where are you ordering your clear skies from? All of my usual places are out of stock.
Love my Seestar would love to share some of the pictures I’ve taken here in Virginia!
The seestar is an excellent beginners setup due to its simplicity, You will learn a lot about the stars and planets and how to set up and it's a great intro into Astrophotography. HOWEVER don't expect awesome images, yes they will look great on instagram but you are very limited with what you can do with it.
1: it is not an eq mounted device which means horrible field rotation as you use it during the night
2: the image quality is Meh compared to what you can do with a better scope, a cooled camera and an equatorial mount (obviously they do cost money)
3: If one thing breaks on it then you dead in the water. It is more or less a paperweight whereas with a dedicated Astro setup you can chop and change, the sky is the limit.
4: resale value will plummet as soon as the next incarnation comes in. Whereas you don't lose as much in resale for dedicated equipment
Don't let what I said put you off however as I still think it's great for beginners and such a great learning tool for outreach, schools and for those days when a more seasoned astrophotographer just can't be bothered setting up or is traveling.
I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years high schools start buying smart telescopes in the same way they started buying 3D printers when the technology matured and the market stabilized.
@@hedgehog3180 yep they are perfect for school camps and outreach.I have also recommended one to a mate who wants to dip his toe into Astrophotography but told him about all the caveats I mentioned above
Damon the Unistellar EV 'scope is disgustingly expensive! In a hobby that is already so darn expensive to get into, it just really rattles my cage! So when the dwarf and S50 came out I was super pleased and impressed. Also, them being sub $500 also meant many more young and not so young alike could now be coaxed into the wonderful hobby we all know and love. Our future scientists will inevitably have a percentage of them who had chosen the science's for their higher education and future careers as a direct or even indirect result of their amazing experiences, wonder and memories as children using these very accessible instruments!
Thank You for a very fair and in depth review Damon!
Is it really looking at objects or enhancing images with an AI aoftware. And are the apps free or subscription based, or require one time purchase, separately?
what power bank did you plug into the seestar? that seemed more convenient then the one i used
The Vaonis Vespera - more expensive than the S50 but great images. Built-in mosaic mode as well.
Seestar will implement the mosaic mode as well though. Still, Vespera takes some great images.
These are great but u can get much better images with a traditional telescope and mount in the same price range can wait to see how much better smart telescope get in the next few years
I have the Vespera and I would’ve definitely bought the SeeStar instead especially for the price, they also don’t include a solar filter in the box too so that’s a bummer
as an atrophotographer myself this is like my dream come true thankyou damon for letting me know about such wonderful telescopes
Alexa, take a photo of Messier 42.
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I was litterally shouting before when i saw ur video. Im really intrested in astronomy and astrophotography,I’m 11 years old and I’m wondering, how to you memorize space? How do you know where everything is located, can you give me some tips? Thank you!😅😅
There's tons of free skymap software like Stellarium and Astrohopper that can help you get your bearings to start with. It helps to first get familiar with the planets, Jupiter and Venus are especially bright and easy to identify and once you know them you can use them as references. Also getting an actual physical star map is a great idea, having an actual piece of paper will give you an intuition that software can't really and you can use it without ruining your night vision plus they're extremely simple to use.
@@hedgehog3180thanks! I’ll try those apps
You didn't mention the smart scope Achilles heal... field rotation!
Make a smart scope with a german eq mount and I'm all over it.
the Dwarf II is build to accept eq mount. On the counter part, the SeeStar doesn't have an official eq mode, but, you can put the SeeStar on a eq mount or simply a tilt head, and perform you regular start up. It will perform its 3 point alignment (it's automatic), and it will work as an EQ. But, since it doesn't have an eq mode feature yet, your horizon is higher since as a tweak alt az, it consider low altitude target under the horizon. so, the capability is there, but it need to be unleash. If you pick the Celestron Orion, it can be mount on a wedge and accept the eq.
Sadly I don't own any telescope, but I'm kinda fan of astrophotography and wonders of our universe.
My only resentment is that Smartscopes are great for newcomers and affordable (in my country it's still around monthly salary 😢 tho), but are they a bit.... too easy? They do all of work for you. I thought that process of capturing and stacking, color corection, cropping etc. is part of hobby. Although it's tough and tedious, it brings most joy and "pride and accomplishment".
Learning new skills lose yourself in that process and clear your mind.
It's like going fishing but bringing robot to fish for you.
TO ALL OF FANS of astrophotography, it's not hating or attacking Damon. It's genuine question to ppl that have both Smartscopes and Telescopes. I'm kinda thorn between two opposite camps xD.
Happy 🌌 stargazing
I do not own this, but my understanding is that it you can use this as an EAA device, where it does some of the work for you (mostly just live stacking) so you can at least see something in color within a couple of minutes, but it will also have a lot of digital noise. It does not automatically give you the beautiful, best images like Damon showed. He still has to export them to his computer and process them manually to eliminate the noise, color correct, etc...
@@millenialfalcon8243Good to know, thx.
Embrace the technology, stop fighting it. Easier, less costly, yes. The fake storyline of you will get bored quickly. Nonsense. I'm having so much fun with mine. I'm retired and the S50 fits all my needs. I have a technical background, and integration was a big part of my job and the decision to buy. Will I eventually feel the need to move on? Maybe. But if I do, I hope it will align with the release of the Seestar S100.
see star is the true king in this show
Damon is posting again!!!!
Sadly Seestar needs to get EU warehouses, because to get one it´s like 820 EUR atm. Dwarf 3 is around 500 EUR to get, both with VAT and duty fees.
Honestly the images from these smart telescopes are easy to beat if you have a star tracker and camera. They are really EAA tools rather than for astrophotography.
I agree, unfortunately, a start tracker is same price than these EAA, if you had a camera, a goto, a mini pc/raspberry pi/asiair, Dual Narrow Band filter, and... an APO lens and/or telescope + autofocusser, you're way out any 500$ market. This is the high selling point of these introduction device.
@@Matrix9969 Yeah thats why you should buy used. Star trackers are like $250-300 on the used market, and even if you buy it new the prices of them are dropping quickly.
I'm an old timer astrophotographer stuck in my ways. Will it produce an image as good as a traditional rig that costs 4x as much? No.
Do most people care? Also no!
No gatekeeping from me! Come on in! I'm off to put my back out dragging the EQ6R about.
"Prepare to be whelmed"- EV scope review
Unistellar should be inpeached
A much better equivalent to the seesstar is a used canon sl2 with 75-300 200$ mount Oregon lx3 150$ then just get a used tripod about 10-50 and u can get around the same image quality
I wish that I had S50 telescope with me but it costs too much that I can't afford it...Even though I tried 2 givaway off of S50 but missed the chance😥
I can beat the crap out of dwarf with my Manual Telescope
Cool, but that hasn’t been my experience. I’ve had my telescope for 15 months, I have a hard time finding targets. I’ve seen 2 nebulas in my telescope (and the 1st one, I wasn’t even sure what I was looking for certain at, at first) and they have not come close to what I’ve seen in the smart scope. I got some great shots of 12P the other night that I couldn’t find in binoculars or with my naked eyes. But my experience has been with the Seestar.
@@jackg7225 I mean that's the thing, these smart scopes are selling convenience but if you already have the knowledge and skill and don't mind putting in a bit of effort they don't offer much.
I haven't been that early in a video
would this work in highly polluted cities as well?
Yes 😁
I have been corresponding with RUclipsr, Ed Ting, and he implied that your, and others’, outstanding astro photos taken with the SeeStar are fake.
no notf wahooo
Idk what I meant by this... I'm weird
Me watching this knowing i wont get a automatic telescope 💀
Fair enough, any ideas on what you're looking at as an alternative? I'm planning on doing a video about the best telescope setups available for under $1000 so I'd appreciate any ideas 😁👍
@@DamonScotting Challenge for you. Build a budget (under $1000 USD) AP rig using the Sky Watcher Virtuoso 130p or 150p. Both priced at under $500 for go-to. Gives you $500-$600 to spend on a budget camera and other gear. The well balanced and priced 585 perhaps.
These scopes are better suited for beginner EAA and enough aperture for beginner visual too. My opinion, these may be the best starter scopes under $500.
Ive watched all video. Have good weekend Damon
Thank you 😄🤝
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this is a PRIME example why folks need to learn how to research thru and thru, every aspect, getting into hiking and want to research hiking shoes? welp you need to know whats available on the market and what of that you need or can afford whatever so on so forth, read reviews as many as you can stand..
and like his video, someone took their time to compare and do some homework for you, is it exact science? no, is it 110% reliable? no... IS IT SOMETHING YOU CAN USE THEN START COMPARING AND RESEARCHING SAID CLAIMS? it is.. of course anyone can take pics of anything, this guy could work for seestar? maybe he used NASA's 10ft telescope at sausalito and the most sophisticated tracking and video/imaging software available who knows? its a baseline for a start! get to work and determine if he is right or wrong, elaborate and perhaps post your own video so the world can start compiling data for these three units? and you can ask to look at other folks work who have all 3... research what all terminology is, so on so forth, knowing technology is huge, know what it is and what it does inside and out..
he said software once I believe, whats that? whats it do? what if I used the most sophisticated software available with one or the other scope will it enhance performance, do what I want it to do? achieve my goals? seems you now have to find a video or paper/review just like this one but for said software programs.. i've never used a telescope or the software, at least not advertently for compiling telescope images, 3d perhaps as I've done a fair amount of that, not sure what programs they use actually, but seems if you want to know you need to find out everything leave no rock unturned, should take 10-14 days to fully shake this down for a total greenhorn with zero telescope or camera experience whatsoever.. simply cuz there is so much data and information on the highway . . .
So I don't need a $5000 DLSR camera/lense package? 🥲