As a younger man I worked at the Ladish company in Cudahy Wisconsin they have the largest counter blow hammer in the world. At that time it produced the largest forging in the world. It was fascinating to watch it operate. I would go down there on my lunch break and eat my sandwich and watch it. It was very hard and dirty work I give credit to these workers.
Japan used to be known for high levels of automation - but that came to a screeching halt, like a lot of other things in Japan, in the early '90s. That's why there are now a lot of factories in Japan that are like this one - they were state of the art in the '90s, but haven't been significantly updated since. They operate profitably because all the capital equipment is fully depreciated and hence incurs only maintenance costs - the labor costs are significantly higher than they would be with a more highly automated facility, but that would have to be set against the substantial costs of carrying the debt needed to update the factory and the most cost-effective solution is to run the old machines until they are completely worn out and only update them then. That way you incur the costs of updating only one piece of the plant at a time and the financing costs are kept under control.
@@notyou6950 Obviously, you can still make incremental improvements to your processes - but it's much harder to make large-scale changes when all you equipment is fully capitalized. That's how we have got to the point where in many cases Chinese factories have more modern production equipment than the Japanese ones do - the Chinese were either starting from scratch, in which case they just bought the equipment that's available now. or were updating factories that were using production equipment and processes that were clearly obsolete and had no real choice except to just scrap it and start from scratch. The late '90s/early '00s production equipment in use in a lot of Japanese factories is still working well and you can make high quality products with it. so there is no imperative to replace it despite the fact that doing so would increase overall productivity. This is like the way that the US steelmakers adopted the Bessemer process early on but then baulked at switching over to the basic oxygen process because they had so much capital tied up in their existing plants, but hopefully won't end up the same way.
@TrimeshSZ agree. I work on large cnc machinery. I can rebuild older equipment many times over to like new condition providing decades of use which is good for the company in a long term. The problem arises now that the old and established equipment makers no longer exist and no one can support their product because their cheap overseas made competition killed their market with new and disposable machines that count their life span to just 7 or 8 years. The level of craftsmanship needed to work on those in troubleshooting and repair has been greatly degraded.
Took me a while to figure out that hub, recon it’s the centre of a clutch, springs go in the 4 slots. Great video, have not done any hot forging but I’d love to have a crack at it in the workshop!
No, not the same. Arc welding produces intense UV radiation, whereas glowing hot metal does not. Obviously glowing hot metal has its own inherent dangers, but it will not cause irreparable vision damage simply from looking at it.
This type of work would never happen in Australia in 2024. Hot ,heavy, or hard folks aren't interested in this type of work. Australia manufactures very little compared to the 50's ,60's & '70s
And even more so since you closed your car manufacturing plants. Most of the component supplier companies would also likely have closed or severely downsized.
@farhorizons3901 For sure, the 4 car plants closing put a huge number of people out of work & the affiliated parts manufacturers as well. Most automotive spare parts these days are made off shore as well. We produce very little steel, little or no shipbuilding, or heavy engineering. How will Australia go in possible military conflict ,with little capacity to produce military hardware to defend ourselves is concerning .
@@iandibley8032 It's just not feasible for smaller countries such as ours to invest the money to develop heavy industry products such as cars or military weapons. At least your Redback Infantry Fighting Vehicle will be built in Australia as will be the AUKUS submarines.
As a younger man I worked at the Ladish company in Cudahy Wisconsin they have the largest counter blow hammer in the world. At that time it produced the largest forging in the world. It was fascinating to watch it operate. I would go down there on my lunch break and eat my sandwich and watch it. It was very hard and dirty work I give credit to these workers.
壊れない車の秘密・・高品質な鍛造部品・・
動画の最後に出てきたパーツも表面処理前で規定の寸法になってないので切削専門の会社に送ってNC旋盤、マシニングセンタ、研磨機などで仕上げること多いよ。
以前鉄工所に居たころは他社で作った鍛造製品がうちの会社に材料として入ってきてNC旋盤で切削して図面通りの寸法に仕上げて
マシニングセンタで穴明けして平滑精度が厳しい物は研磨で1/1000ｍｍ単位まで仕上げる作業をしていた。
オートマ車のトルコンに使うインペラー等は複雑な形をしてるので鍛造では不可で鋳造で作れた物を上記の機械で仕上げていた。
埼玉の戸田で父親が工場長やっていた工場と同じだ。日産向けの部品作ってた。
Fascinating watching how the best quality parts in the world are made
Made in Japan is the top all over the world ！
@@Zifengtower Ilusao !!
I’m surprised it still exists. Japan is well known for full automation.
Japan used to be known for high levels of automation - but that came to a screeching halt, like a lot of other things in Japan, in the early '90s. That's why there are now a lot of factories in Japan that are like this one - they were state of the art in the '90s, but haven't been significantly updated since. They operate profitably because all the capital equipment is fully depreciated and hence incurs only maintenance costs - the labor costs are significantly higher than they would be with a more highly automated facility, but that would have to be set against the substantial costs of carrying the debt needed to update the factory and the most cost-effective solution is to run the old machines until they are completely worn out and only update them then. That way you incur the costs of updating only one piece of the plant at a time and the financing costs are kept under control.
@TrimeshSZ that means no more kaizan? I think they figured out how to beat the West and East competition with simplicity again.
@@notyou6950 Obviously, you can still make incremental improvements to your processes - but it's much harder to make large-scale changes when all you equipment is fully capitalized. That's how we have got to the point where in many cases Chinese factories have more modern production equipment than the Japanese ones do - the Chinese were either starting from scratch, in which case they just bought the equipment that's available now. or were updating factories that were using production equipment and processes that were clearly obsolete and had no real choice except to just scrap it and start from scratch. The late '90s/early '00s production equipment in use in a lot of Japanese factories is still working well and you can make high quality products with it. so there is no imperative to replace it despite the fact that doing so would increase overall productivity. This is like the way that the US steelmakers adopted the Bessemer process early on but then baulked at switching over to the basic oxygen process because they had so much capital tied up in their existing plants, but hopefully won't end up the same way.
@TrimeshSZ agree. I work on large cnc machinery. I can rebuild older equipment many times over to like new condition providing decades of use which is good for the company in a long term. The problem arises now that the old and established equipment makers no longer exist and no one can support their product because their cheap overseas made competition killed their market with new and disposable machines that count their life span to just 7 or 8 years. The level of craftsmanship needed to work on those in troubleshooting and repair has been greatly degraded.
Chinese manufacturing is also declining rapidly due to higher costs. latest factories are being relocated to India, Vietnam, and so on.
大変興味深い内容でした。せん断機はMANYO製かな？ハンマーは1.5TONのOTANI製？ビレットヒーターは…
私は、前職でとある鍛造会社の保全担当をしていた者です。ショットブラスト機はSHINTO製かな？少々古い型式と見受けられましたが、きちんとメンテナンスして大事に使用されている感じでしたね。
うわ！いつも丸鋼（棒状の鋼材）を納入させていただいてるお客様だ！
最初に出てくる丸鋼置き場に15t車で納入するのだがめちゃくちゃ狭い構内に入ってから数回切り返して門型クレーン下に縦列駐車（腕の見せ所）。荷受けの方が丁寧で優しい♪退出時も狭い裏路地にバックするが誘導していただける。
初めて作業を見ることができた♪
ドッカン・ドッカン・・・の音の原因が分かった。1000tプレスか。危険な作業お疲れ様です！
今後共宜しくお願い致します♪
Stunning work! This video totally made my day! 🥰🥰🥰
素晴らしい作業です。
Took me a while to figure out that hub, recon it’s the centre of a clutch, springs go in the 4 slots.
Great video, have not done any hot forging but I’d love to have a crack at it in the workshop!
だから日本の製品は高品質なんだね。
こんにちは。はじめまして！凄いですね、今までの発想と全然違いました、あの太いシャフトをシャーリングで切ってる。。。短時間で真っ赤に成るまで
熱を入れて、プレスも潰した鉄を真ん中に入れてあれズレたらロスに成りますよね、それと両手使って足でプレスしてる間違えたら手が無くなっちゃう！
鋳物と違って、逆に仕事が早いしね女性もやって見えましたね。刀を作る様に何度も叩いてると思いました時間が掛かって難しい物だと思っていましたが
こんな工程でやってるとは。。。じゃ、まったね～！熱さに負けないようにね。
こんな単純作業を続けられる精神力に敬服します
私も無理〜気が狂う
エリアセンサーや安全回路に守られた職場に居るわい
「怖すぎるって」
同じく、よ〜やるわ😅危なくて出来ん…
けどこういう所は稼働率は意外に良かったりする。
スタンプハンマーって言う機械の動きが怖い
これを見ると通常のクランクプレスがなんて事もない機械に見えてしまう
クランクプレスだって十分危険なのに
@@錦鯉大好き-k7u 指が飛んで一人前とか言われるからなこういう所は
労災隠し放題ですわ
知人の弟が右腕潰れて切断… 残業、残業、残業で疲れてた時に事故で会社と裁判してましたわ😢
@@菜々男名無しの つぶれるときって意外と静か。鉄を叩く音に比べたら、人間の身体なんて。。。
The Japanese are masters of manufacturing, period!
Germans as well.
Japanese 🇯🇵 quality 💯💯💯
ユニバーサルの部品、クラッチのディスクの真ん中の部品かな😮
Japan quality world no. 1 ❤
Город Чита, читинская промышленная компания )) ипонский городовой!
Япония стала ещё ближе
昔縦型熱鍛prayerでした
懐かしいわ
Where can I purchase one of those objects? Even if I have no idea what they are or what they do? 🤔
universal joint parts? please show the finished product next time please.
I giapponesi sono dei gran lavoratori e una spanna sopra gli altri in fatto di motori e componenti per l'industria.
熱間鍛造ぐらいの温度だと、アーク溶接であるような網膜傷害は起きないのかな？
あと今どきの機械設備のリスクアセスメントを普通にやったら、セーフティライトカーテンだらけになりそう。
No, not the same. Arc welding produces intense UV radiation, whereas glowing hot metal does not. Obviously glowing hot metal has its own inherent dangers, but it will not cause irreparable vision damage simply from looking at it.
I need a real cyclops visor yellow please and thank you
基幹製造業は政府がバンバン支援してほしい
nice video
Почему на пресах работают без наушников?
Damn what a power hammer
Ôi công nghệ nhật.ok😊việtnam😊
Fantastic
私も熱間鍛造に携わっています。
ここの鍛造屋はハンマー打ちの時、防災面を付けないんですね。
スケール飛んできて危ないと思うのですが…
プレスをやっていた者ですが安全装置は付いていないですよね？
挟む物で押さえながらやったりするので安全装置を付けようがないのですか？
Saludos desde CR 🇨🇷
いいと思います
Cool!
Is it me or does that one part look like Shinnok's Amulet from Mortal Kombat? lol
おつかれ様です、こういう人たちがいるから日本の車は品質が良いのですね。脱中国。
何の部品か説明を入れて欲しかった
クラッチディスクの構成部品であるスプラインハブですね
This type of work would never happen in Australia in 2024. Hot ,heavy, or hard folks aren't interested in this type of work. Australia manufactures very little compared to the 50's ,60's & '70s
Thank you for mining the iron ore.
And even more so since you closed your car manufacturing plants. Most of the component supplier companies would also likely have closed or severely downsized.
@farhorizons3901 For sure, the 4 car plants closing put a huge number of people out of work & the affiliated parts manufacturers as well. Most automotive spare parts these days are made off shore as well. We produce very little steel, little or no shipbuilding, or heavy engineering. How will Australia go in possible military conflict ,with little capacity to produce military hardware to defend ourselves is concerning .
@@iandibley8032 It's just not feasible for smaller countries such as ours to invest the money to develop heavy industry products such as cars or military weapons. At least your Redback Infantry Fighting Vehicle will be built in Australia as will be the AUKUS submarines.
@@iandibley8032 Why don't you refine the minerals you mine and produce metal ingot/coil/tube/slab/plate?
10:01 ТМП 1000 - кузнечный пресс "Тяжмехпресс" г. Воронеж
Тоже для себя отметил.Приятно удивлен.👍
❤いいね
(10:01) пресс Воронежского завода "ТМП"
何作ってたかさっぱり分からん😅最後の方にプロペラシャフトのジャーナル見たいのはあったけど歪だったんだよな😂
Please show production of CuZrCr spot electrode production 🙏 🙌
❤MADE IN JAPAN❤
The surface speed on that lathe was way too slow
cool
И так целую смену как робот, очумеешь нахер от такого.
It won't be long,it will be gone!
Wechseln sich die Leute ab, oder machen diese die ganze Schicht immer nur das Gleiche?
لماذا تسميها تزوير‼️🤔
💯👍😎💯
很單純的重複性工作怎不用機械手臂？！
単純そうな製造工程でも、人の目と製造に携わる勘は馬鹿には出来ない。
Must be how they made the ships to sail to Pearl Harbor....
現在覺得日本製造也沒多厲害了，環境比有些台灣鄉下工廠還差😂
Даже покурить некогда
休憩時間は別にある
作業時間に吸うなんて問題だろ
@八丁堀乃酔っぱらい つまり、約1時間ごとに仕事の休憩がありますか
@@Pikulev_Evgeniy 普通、2時間に平均７～１０分小休憩
日本では普通
お昼平均５０分間（ランチタイム）
1000tハンマーなんてシティーハンターだね。
作業危険的事故不可避現場
人命軽視的労働者搾取企業
何作ってんの？？
ハブ（Hub）、ギア（Gear）、レバー（Lever）、プーリ（Pulley）、バルブ（Valve）
广州的日本汽车厂现在只有50%的产能了😂将来不知道会怎样？
中国国内の景気の動向次第で企業は撤退若しくは、パーセント低下は免れないでしょう・・
こういうとこで死亡保険がおこるのです
EVになると此処で造られてる殆どの部品が要ら無くなる。ハイブリッドだとエンジンとモーター両方必要。コストからも効率からもモーターの方が優れてるから、バッテリーの性能が上れば勝負は決まる。一方で、これらの工場を保護するためにトヨタもホンダもEVに舵を切れ無い。ドイツの自動車製造会社は中国に工場を作って自国の労働者に別の仕事を探す機会を与えようと努力中。アメリカは自国の自動車製造会社を税金と関税で補助してEVに向わせるって感じかと。テスラが船頭です。円安は継続しそうです。
中国の自動車工場に関するチャンネル。ドイツ人は中国人に対して何もできない！www.youtube.com/@Gilevich_Sergey/videos
EVって鍛造部品要らないの？
@@m2-m1いらないんじゃなくて減るって話
スレ主はホリエモンみたいにロケットとかに鞍替えさせないと、円が売られて安いままですよって話
@@flowerflower1154 円安ガー！！ただ持ってる製造ノウハウから他業種の受注は賛成。移行とまでは言わないが
内燃機関が無くなればトヨタもホンダも優位性がなくなり、値下げ競争で中国に敗退は間違いないね。先行利益を得たテスラでさえ中国で売れずに新型車は全く出せていない。5年たてば産廃になるしね。
こんな単調作業絶対無理
19 век....
You think they use real nippon steel or Chinese crap?