Alina Alley maybe? Lois means beautiful and so does Alina, also lane, alley same sort of thing. Keeps the alliteration but gets her out of the LL hell hole
Lois, Superman missed your party, but he did leave you a message! "You have 30 minutes to move your car... you have 10 minutes to move your car... your car has been impounded... your car has been crushed into a cube... you have 30 minutes to move your cube."
Not when he tricked her to marry someone else Not when he disguised himself as other man just to test her Not when he let Wonder Woman slap her around The thing the broke Lois Lane love for Superman is he forgetting her birthday
Consider this: 1. She's always flipping for other men and often marries them - sort of. 2. She's always trying to find out his secret identity. 3. She's always recklessly putting herself in danger, assuming he'll always be there to save her. 4. She treats his alter ego, Clark Kent, like dirt. 5. She conspires with Lana Lang to trick him into choosing between them. If I were him, I would be glad to be rid of her. This way he could make time with Wonder Woman, who is ideal for him.
@@Outlier999 you are not coming off as very impartial here with your pfp. Both kinda suck at romance. And most of the time she goes after other people cause he's pretty neglectful to get his attention, which is still very toxic but you can't exactly act like their toxicity isn't working in tandem with each other's. When they are with healthy people they are healthier in general lol
To be fair, Kirby got off lightly. It could have turned out much worse. He didn't die of cancer. He didn't get turned into a giant puddle of slime. He wasn't secretly a mind reading alien. He wasn't trying to use Lois to lead Superman into a trap. He was just a well-adjusted nice guy, falling for someone he was attracted to.
I am sure female viewers will agree with this comment. “He was not Quasimodo butt ugly, like some of Lois suitors have been, never mind there BIG hearts.”
Jimmy, "What did Superman give you for your birthday, Lois?" Lois, "An incredibly realistic, life-sized, fully poseable manikin of myself. It is tacky." Jimmy, "It might be in poor taste; buy "tacky" seems a bit harsh." Lois, "No, I mean it is sticky to the touch." Jimmy, "Ew..."
Rand is perhaps the most emotionally stable Silver Age Superman character I've ever seen. Part of me is sad that he's faded into obscurity but another part is happy at the thought that he just moved on and probably settled down with some nice woman.
I honestly like how determined Lois was to separate herself from Superman and her obsession with him. Considering how she would sometimes switch on a whim between Superman and other guys, as well as the erratic and extreme nature of their relationship, it was really refreshing for them to acknowledge that their relationship was actually pretty messed up, and kind of exploring how it emotionally affected Lois.
Since Clark acts like he made mistakes saving those other women, since they were not actually Lois, does that imply he simply lets anyone else die, even when he is conveniently there to save them?
I'm fascinated by these sort of "transitional" comics, moving from the Silver Age to the Bronze Age. It's still got a lot of the contrivances of the Silver Age, but there's a little more...emotional nuance? Self-reflection? They come right out and say how messed up Superman and Lois' relationship is, and even though the status quo is restored by the end, they don't really address or refute any of those problems. Lois gradually becomes less wacky and marriage-obsessed through the '70s and '80s, and this feels like a significant (if halting) first step in that process.
I love how the first issue treats rand as this perfect guy that can do no wrong and is perfect for Lois but then the second issue starts rewriting history with her apparently not being into him really at all.
Just imagine if DC would publish a comic where they show all the phone calls /conversations that Clark had with Bruce regarding his relationship with Lois? Instant best seller.
Interesting that "The first half is much better than the second" seems to be kind of a running theme with these silver age Lois Lane comics. Makes me wonder if time pressures forced them to write the first part before they had a clear idea of how it was going to resolve.
There is also the necessity of getting back to the status quo at the end. It may hinders the full potential of a premise. Tv shows as far as the 2010's faced this same narrative difficulties.
I think you nailed it in your riff about the Silver Age. The tone really is hard to duplicate: such a weird type of innocent, straightforward reportage about absurd, suggestive situations. And apparently choosing female characters' new hairstyles was a thing at Silver Age DC? They pulled the same reader vote stunt for Supergirl (in her Linda Lee identity). Anybody know of any others?
Pretty sure Wonder Woman went through the same hairstyle poll thing at one point. You're spot on about the whole feel of real Silver Age and modern attempts to recreate it feeling off even when the effort is sincere rather than parody or mockery. It's just not something you can reproduce perfectly, the world has changed too much over time. The closest I've seen to "getting it" have been a few homages to Kirby's work - Godland, for ex.
@@richmcgee434 Yeah. I think the big difference between actual Silver Age stories and modern attempts is a) the professional attitudes of the writers then as compared to now, and b) who the intended audience was. Silver Age writers did not consider their comics work professionally significant or fulfilling, as comic book writing was their day job as they tried to establish themselves in other, more lucrative areas. They saw their work in comics as completely disposable. Secondarily, the intended audience is different. The Silver Age guys were writing for kids; the modern writers of Silver Age pastiche are writing for adult readers who either remember reading the old stuff, or who have seen blog posts or videos about it. The nostalgia element is always there in the modern attempts, whereas the actual Silver Age stories were drawing on the feel and style of tall tales and fables that would have been familiar to kids of the era. A different set of expectations entirely.
@@aldinbaroza9640 Mostly agreed, although it's going much too far to say that all creators during the Silver Age looked at comics as beneath them or something they'd leave behind as soon as possible. While that's true of many of the lesser talents, it obviously doesn't apply to people like Kirby, Infantino, Ditko, etc. There were people who took true joy in what they were doing and were happy to make a career of it. Equally, it's undeniable that many modern creators are in it solely for the hope of making a name for themselves and getting a fortune from Hollywood. The majority of them get exactly what they deserve - nothing. Every generation has its share of hacks who just want a paycheck. Spot on about how faux nostalgia always rings false, though.
@@richmcgee434 Sure. It's hard to not generalize when I'm trying to not write a 20K-word post on it, lol. But even a guy like Kirby who loved the medium was trying to sell newspaper strip ideas like Sky Masters. And today you can be both a comic book writer AND a movie or TV screenwriter; comic books today aren't as ghettoized as it was during the Silver Age.
It's not as if all the Silver Age writers were hacks, although I did joke about that in another post. It's just that that generation looked at comics as a job. The first generation of comics fandom who ended up working in comics started in the Bronze Age (I know it's a fuzzy boundary since ppl like Roy Thomas and Shooter kind of straddled both eras), and they brought that love of nostalgia with them.
This run is the most self-aware and arguably sane of all the Lois Lane comics I've ever seen you cover. Kirby actually seemed like a healthy relationship choice.
You can really see how comic storytelling changed as the silver age went on. The "weird & wacky" impression mostly comes from the early silver age, with later comics becoming more melodramatic and character-driven. I think a lot of that is due to Marvel's influence on the industry. After all, Stan Lee wrote soap opera comics before he wrote superheroes.
It's the same with early silver age transitioning out of the golden when the stories started being more science fiction based until "Seduction of the Innocents was published. There was no hard shift until that damned book came out, then things got weird out of necessity
Technically Stan Lee's first comics writing work was on the original 1940s Captain America series, but he did write a lot of soap opera comics in the years between that and Fantastic Four.
13:15 That art and the caption has some horrendous imagery, Superman looks like a predator and with how good Rand was presented makes Kal-EL look like the ultimate menace in these issues. That and Lois leaving him, Rand was the true unsung hero. Also, love the Mandy clip.
I blame both the Comic Code Authority & Mort Weisinger (who was Superman editor from 1958-1970) for why Superman’s Silver Age was so bizarre and why Lois Lane was so “out of character”.
Nope, the clone was made to replace Lois, who was kidnapped by Lex at the time. Don't worry though. She escaped but hit her head, got amnesia, and thought she was a lounge singer named Wanda Detroit, all the while the clone of Lois falls for Supes... Yeah, typing about this doesn't do it justice. It needs to be seen to be believed.
Oh and the whole Wanda Detroit thing came from a memoir Lois wrote... I swear, that entire storyline feels like a fever dream, with a frog eating clone.
@@scarletshark6810 Wow. That's sound like a crackfic of a Silver Age story. I hope the episode was called "The croaking of Wanda Dayton" or something weird like that.
@@phonybeautrain6520 I wish. It was called Double Jeopardy... Though there is a scene in the show where someone sees Lois in the street and yells: It's Lois Lane! This causes everyone to run away screaming...
Imagine how awkward this would’ve been if Lois had moved to Gotham or Central City and dated one of Clark’s super friends. Now that sounds like something you were here in a superhero soap opera! Edit: It is noteworthy that in Superman the animated series, Bruce Wayne did date Lois Lane briefly. Just imagine the superhero shenanigans!
Lois Lane's old comics really are a good example of why I hate will they won't they in stories and all that jazz Because it's just killing time. People have known that Clark and Lois were meant to be together since the 1930s And yet never, until the late 90s could we have a story that was just ABOUT people IN a relationship Superman and Lois, CLARK and Lois trying to make it work, everything on the table, is so much more interesting.
I loved this! I knew Lois and Supes would get back together in the end. With the introduction of Rand, I became more invested. His red-shirt status was obvious from the beginning, but how hard would his heart get stomped? The writer was nice; it could’ve been worse. At least he got a last kiss. Fun story, thanks!
The Silver Age was indeed wacky but the weirdest thing about it was the way it treated and presented relationships. Presenting toxicity and dysfunctional as something desireaable.
The most refreshing thing about Lois is that she always...WITHOUT FAIL...lists handsome first when describing her man. None of this "Loving your personality" BS.
I think if Lois ever found the right LL initials Clark would finally put a ring on it. Perhaps a surname with more syllables; Lori Lemaris certainly got him closer to a committed relationship than Lois ever has in this title.
Lois came so close to escaping the endless cycle. She's like the Moneypenny of comics, forever pining for an unattainable alpha male hero. But even Bond treats Moneypenny better than silver age Superman treats Lois.
Lois keeping the same initials with her new identity also fits in with a hokey trope in fiction from this era, particularly common in the crime/mystery genre, where people who use an alias supposedly can't resist using the same initials. It's often excused with "all my stuff is monogrammed" and not being able to, y'know, just buy a new suitcase or whatever, and of course it also shows how criminals are creatures of habit (as well as being cowardly and afraid of bats, of course). In real life it's utter bullshit, but you still see it bandied about as an urban myth even today. Cops wish people were that stupid when they try to conceal their identities...
I recently watched a bunch if TV from the 50s and they did this a couple times where people were caught by their monograms being the same as their old name. And at least one case where they had changed their name to their victims initials so that they could keep and use their fancy stuff all monogrammed of course, and eventually that's how the detective catches the handsome but lazy/stupid criminal. I guess monogram culture was way more prevalent in the past, it's not something I ever think of.
@@mray4784 my father once overheard two thugs on the train, talking about how annoying it was when the police waited for them at a place they were planning to rob, how could they have possibly known??
@@mray4784 There absolutely are, but how many of them have monogramed luggage and handkerchiefs these days? It's like finding tailors' labels in clothing as a clue. Might have made sense once upon a time, but pretty unlikely today, especially after over a century of media telling people they shouldn't use the same initials when incognito or leave identifying marks in the clothes of that body they're dumping. Thankfully modern CSI more than makes up for it, even if it isn't the outright magic Hollywood portrays it as. And crooks are still very, very stupid on average. That never changes.
I'm glad Superman and Lois have an actual loving relationship in later comics, shows and the like because early comics before their characters and relationship were fleshed out sure were something.
I'm a huge fan of ridiculous silver age comics (especially Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen's titles) so thank you for your in-depth, hilarious coverage! I recently read Superman #210 from 1968, and I beg you to cover it! It's the most messed up Superman story I've ever seen, featuring Clark faking his suicide and Superman giving his (own) eulogy ENTIRELY TO MAKE LOIS FEEL BAD FOR NOT DATING CLARK. There's no valuable lesson, no convoluted plan to actually help Lois or catch some bad guys, just straight up meant to leave Lois overcome with guilt for not wanting to date such a Nice Guy as Clark Kent. I bet you would tear the story to shreds and I would love to see it!
What a wonderful video! Your passion for the seriously messed up Silver Age Lois/Superman relationship is the most delightful thing ever. If I may recommend a future Lois-getting-married story, one that really IS wacky shenanigans from beginning to end: from Superman's Girl Friend Lois Lane #28, "Lois Lane, Gun Moll!"
This almost feels like a Golden Age comic in the way it presents a solid romance story at the very start, and finally descends into the Silver Age's, "We Can't Have Characters Move on With Their Lives" ideal! I would've liked doing a companion-piece to this, where Lois DOESN'T end up going back to Superman! But her relationship with Rand will probably go a little slower, since she's still trying to get over her last love.
After the coverage of all these Lois Lane stories I think finally have set in my mind why she is always so quickly moving into these marriage's. Probably hard to find a guy interested in her because if I read her news stories everyday, though exciting, I wouldn't want to be constantly caught up in danger. I would think more guys than Superman would possibly block her advances and when that fishing hook actually catches something even if it is a blue gill of a man wanting to marry her I don't think she would pass up on it in the Silver Age.
Rand Kirby aka the New Leader of the forlorn the Underground Union of jilted Super-Villains, now known as Shleprock, with the powers of steeling a Women’s internal vitals. Yikes
I really love these old Lois Lane stories. Something that's missing since Superman married Lois and had a son. Bronze age and silver age stories were such fun. You didn't have to read multiple books or several issues to get an entire story. Still waiting for you to do a review of The New Teen Titans issues 1-5 by Marve Wolfman and George Perez and Tales of the New Teen Titans #42-44 and Annual #3 "The Judas Contract".
4:00 Honestly, Lucy does say it to him. Multiple times. But then they get together because Lucy enjoys Jimmy's suffering...Honestly, maybe she should get with Superman.
Ah the SGLL the Gift that just keeps on Giving 🙏🏾 …Rand seems stable , but like You I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop…💡Maybe starting His Lois trophy room with some bust & statues made of that Kryptonite 🤔 …Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
I think the twist with Rand is that he is just a perfect prince charming guy who genuinely loves her, because there have been so many crazy twists and gimmicks with her other love interests that Rand us the ultimate twist: The subversion!🎉😂
I’d say that I’m surprised she didn’t use the opportunity of Superman missing her party to get an amazing date or given it’s Lois marriage as some kind of reconciliation for that but this is also the women who jumped off a cliff in the hopes that Superman would save her like he always does and give her a lift to work instead of waiting for her car to be fixed like someone who isn’t reliant on Superman to save them whenever and then dumped him for a reformed Lex because she didn’t think that Superman might not be able to save her because he’s in space or something so this actually tracks with her silver age character. It’s just kind of sad how hard she tried to move on only for Superman to make her fall “in love” with him all over again. Poor Rand Kirby never stood a chance
I thought this break up lasted longer (like to issue 100). I love the cover for issue 80. Even apart from her throwing the girlfriend off the title, I just really like her dress
dang it, Sasha some us play these videos as background entertainment at work. The 21:48-22:00 screaming leaking out of the earbuds is hard to justify to people around.
Lois being "Superman's Girlfriend" seems to be just in her head, because in all these comics she's never actually in a relationship with him. I'd possibly even go as far as saying these stories are "revenge fiction" writtern by Lois, where she's getting one up on him for not caring about her by marrying someone else. And she's even wrote into the comic that Superman does secretly love her but can't tell her for reasons.
Once I ran to you (I ran) Now I'll run from you This toxic love you've given I give you all a girl could give you Take my tears and that's not nearly all Toxic love (oh) Toxic love
You know, Neil Gaiman's Sandman really makes Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane make a lot more sense. We already know Despair is responsible for life Superman, so it only makes sense that Desire, Despair, and Delirium are betting on Lois the way the bet on Emperor Norton I.
Love how Sasha always makes my day. And, as usual, reinforces my love for comics. Sasha, please do a review of the Grant Morrison 's run on Green Lantern. PS How come old comics has so much content?
Wow, that was an intense episode. I don't think I could read a hundred issues of Lois running around trying to get married. I thought the twist with Rand would be that he was Lex Luthor taking advantage of Lois.
Let's give Lois a better fake name go!
Lana Lang
Lorna Love?
Alexa Luthor
Alina Alley maybe? Lois means beautiful and so does Alina, also lane, alley same sort of thing. Keeps the alliteration but gets her out of the LL hell hole
Licky Lamb
"In Space, No One Can Hear You Rejecting Superman"
🤣
I was going to say, *_"In space, no one can hear you asphyxiate."_* 😊
Lois, Superman missed your party, but he did leave you a message! "You have 30 minutes to move your car... you have 10 minutes to move your car... your car has been impounded... your car has been crushed into a cube... you have 30 minutes to move your cube."
Phone rings
Lois: Is it about my Cube?
“Yello! Mr. Kent’s office”
I get it!
What is this from?
@@joeygibson6867 Simpsons
Not when he tricked her to marry someone else
Not when he disguised himself as other man just to test her
Not when he let Wonder Woman slap her around
The thing the broke Lois Lane love for Superman is he forgetting her birthday
He was two blocks down and most likely watching and listening... Oh man supes in trouble
"Kakacarrot cake, hen i- when i was just a little boy he-.... He didnt invite me to his birthday party!!!!!!"
And she has used tricks to get him to marry her, or choose between her and Lana.
Consider this:
1. She's always flipping for other men and often marries them - sort of.
2. She's always trying to find out his secret identity.
3. She's always recklessly putting herself in danger, assuming he'll always be there to save her.
4. She treats his alter ego, Clark Kent, like dirt.
5. She conspires with Lana Lang to trick him into choosing between them.
If I were him, I would be glad to be rid of her. This way he could make time with Wonder Woman, who is ideal for him.
@@Outlier999 you are not coming off as very impartial here with your pfp. Both kinda suck at romance. And most of the time she goes after other people cause he's pretty neglectful to get his attention, which is still very toxic but you can't exactly act like their toxicity isn't working in tandem with each other's. When they are with healthy people they are healthier in general lol
To be fair, Kirby got off lightly. It could have turned out much worse. He didn't die of cancer. He didn't get turned into a giant puddle of slime. He wasn't secretly a mind reading alien. He wasn't trying to use Lois to lead Superman into a trap. He was just a well-adjusted nice guy, falling for someone he was attracted to.
I am sure female viewers will agree with this comment. “He was not Quasimodo butt ugly, like some of Lois suitors have been, never mind there BIG hearts.”
That will teach him.
Which obviously means he's doomed.
Poor Rand didn't stand a chance, he didn't even have a secret stalker room full of Lois manikins
Lol.
“Superman would never give me the same tacky gift twice in a row!”
Have you met Superman, Lois?
Jimmy, "What did Superman give you for your birthday, Lois?"
Lois, "An incredibly realistic, life-sized, fully poseable manikin of myself. It is tacky."
Jimmy, "It might be in poor taste; buy "tacky" seems a bit harsh."
Lois, "No, I mean it is sticky to the touch."
Jimmy, "Ew..."
It seemed to me like maybe her friends dud this at Christmas also but forgot.
Clark Kent is all about being tacky dweeb, and since Clark Kent is Superman...
Lmfao @@euansmith3699
I love how Silver Age Superman seems to concentrate his super-powers into super-stalking…
Maybe "Superman Returns" was an homage?
I didn’t think Superman would take “we need some space” so literally lol
You know, it's stuff like this that makes you think, maybe Lex was right about Superman. Also, Lois didn't deserve Rand.
None of us did lol
Now I am sure ur Husband is just as nice.🤠👍@@CasuallyComics
Rand is perhaps the most emotionally stable Silver Age Superman character I've ever seen. Part of me is sad that he's faded into obscurity but another part is happy at the thought that he just moved on and probably settled down with some nice woman.
I'm just glad, the less he appears on screen the lower the chance of him losing it and becoming a villian or a less plesant person.
Man, modern day BatCat has nothing on Silver Age Superman and Lois in the toxic relationship department.
I honestly like how determined Lois was to separate herself from Superman and her obsession with him. Considering how she would sometimes switch on a whim between Superman and other guys, as well as the erratic and extreme nature of their relationship, it was really refreshing for them to acknowledge that their relationship was actually pretty messed up, and kind of exploring how it emotionally affected Lois.
Since Clark acts like he made mistakes saving those other women, since they were not actually Lois, does that imply he simply lets anyone else die, even when he is conveniently there to save them?
If she had just picked a different last initial, she could have escaped him forever
i half expected Superman to go to save a woman, realize she wasn't Lois, and drop her.
I'm fascinated by these sort of "transitional" comics, moving from the Silver Age to the Bronze Age. It's still got a lot of the contrivances of the Silver Age, but there's a little more...emotional nuance? Self-reflection? They come right out and say how messed up Superman and Lois' relationship is, and even though the status quo is restored by the end, they don't really address or refute any of those problems. Lois gradually becomes less wacky and marriage-obsessed through the '70s and '80s, and this feels like a significant (if halting) first step in that process.
I love how the first issue treats rand as this perfect guy that can do no wrong and is perfect for Lois but then the second issue starts rewriting history with her apparently not being into him really at all.
Just imagine if DC would publish a comic where they show all the phone calls /conversations that Clark had with Bruce regarding his relationship with Lois? Instant best seller.
Bat-man 100% has that saved on a bat-drive
@@weathermangohanssj4 batman's bat-blackmail
God imagine Batman being the confident of Superman's romantic woes and Bruce Wayne being the confident of Lois's Romantic Woes.
That's comedy gold.
Clark my main love interests are Catwoman, Talia and the joker
I'm not the person to ask
Interesting that "The first half is much better than the second" seems to be kind of a running theme with these silver age Lois Lane comics. Makes me wonder if time pressures forced them to write the first part before they had a clear idea of how it was going to resolve.
Creating a catchy set-up is easier than creating a satisfying resolution for that set-up.
There is also the necessity of getting back to the status quo at the end. It may hinders the full potential of a premise. Tv shows as far as the 2010's faced this same narrative difficulties.
I think you nailed it in your riff about the Silver Age. The tone really is hard to duplicate: such a weird type of innocent, straightforward reportage about absurd, suggestive situations. And apparently choosing female characters' new hairstyles was a thing at Silver Age DC? They pulled the same reader vote stunt for Supergirl (in her Linda Lee identity). Anybody know of any others?
Pretty sure Wonder Woman went through the same hairstyle poll thing at one point.
You're spot on about the whole feel of real Silver Age and modern attempts to recreate it feeling off even when the effort is sincere rather than parody or mockery. It's just not something you can reproduce perfectly, the world has changed too much over time. The closest I've seen to "getting it" have been a few homages to Kirby's work - Godland, for ex.
@@richmcgee434 Yeah. I think the big difference between actual Silver Age stories and modern attempts is a) the professional attitudes of the writers then as compared to now, and b) who the intended audience was. Silver Age writers did not consider their comics work professionally significant or fulfilling, as comic book writing was their day job as they tried to establish themselves in other, more lucrative areas. They saw their work in comics as completely disposable.
Secondarily, the intended audience is different. The Silver Age guys were writing for kids; the modern writers of Silver Age pastiche are writing for adult readers who either remember reading the old stuff, or who have seen blog posts or videos about it. The nostalgia element is always there in the modern attempts, whereas the actual Silver Age stories were drawing on the feel and style of tall tales and fables that would have been familiar to kids of the era. A different set of expectations entirely.
@@aldinbaroza9640 Mostly agreed, although it's going much too far to say that all creators during the Silver Age looked at comics as beneath them or something they'd leave behind as soon as possible. While that's true of many of the lesser talents, it obviously doesn't apply to people like Kirby, Infantino, Ditko, etc. There were people who took true joy in what they were doing and were happy to make a career of it.
Equally, it's undeniable that many modern creators are in it solely for the hope of making a name for themselves and getting a fortune from Hollywood. The majority of them get exactly what they deserve - nothing. Every generation has its share of hacks who just want a paycheck.
Spot on about how faux nostalgia always rings false, though.
@@richmcgee434 Sure. It's hard to not generalize when I'm trying to not write a 20K-word post on it, lol. But even a guy like Kirby who loved the medium was trying to sell newspaper strip ideas like Sky Masters. And today you can be both a comic book writer AND a movie or TV screenwriter; comic books today aren't as ghettoized as it was during the Silver Age.
It's not as if all the Silver Age writers were hacks, although I did joke about that in another post. It's just that that generation looked at comics as a job. The first generation of comics fandom who ended up working in comics started in the Bronze Age (I know it's a fuzzy boundary since ppl like Roy Thomas and Shooter kind of straddled both eras), and they brought that love of nostalgia with them.
This run is the most self-aware and arguably sane of all the Lois Lane comics I've ever seen you cover. Kirby actually seemed like a healthy relationship choice.
Yes, so not Lois type.
You can really see how comic storytelling changed as the silver age went on. The "weird & wacky" impression mostly comes from the early silver age, with later comics becoming more melodramatic and character-driven. I think a lot of that is due to Marvel's influence on the industry. After all, Stan Lee wrote soap opera comics before he wrote superheroes.
To me, late silver age feels more like the transition into the bronze age, kinda like a hybrid era.
It's the same with early silver age transitioning out of the golden when the stories started being more science fiction based until "Seduction of the Innocents was published. There was no hard shift until that damned book came out, then things got weird out of necessity
That's why I prefer Silver&Bronze Age DC to Marvel. I like the far-fetched crazy plots. Also much more cheesecake in DC!
@@johnpjones182 But has DC made a couple bikini comics? I thought not! XD
Technically Stan Lee's first comics writing work was on the original 1940s Captain America series, but he did write a lot of soap opera comics in the years between that and Fantastic Four.
The cover for 80 might not stand out? Excuse you? It's quite possibly my favorite comic book cover of all time.
They need to bring Rand Kirby back! I dont know how or why, but he needs to just inexplicably show up!
Say what you will about Superman Returns, but they did one thing right - they nailed the silver age super-stalker Superman vibes
"If you leave Neal Adams alone, the crazy goes up by at least five points"
The Neal Adams written & illustrated 'Batman: Odyssey' is proof of that!
I'm kinda for Lois and Rand. I want to see the universe where Lois stayed with him.
13:15 That art and the caption has some horrendous imagery, Superman looks like a predator and with how good Rand was presented makes Kal-EL look like the ultimate menace in these issues. That and Lois leaving him, Rand was the true unsung hero.
Also, love the Mandy clip.
Uh, question. Wouldn't Lois notice Clark's physical build in that bathing suit? His non - prescription glasses don't cover his pecs or the rest of it.
Silver age Superman is reaching Goku levels of thoughtless boyfriend material.
And now I know where Akira Toriyama may have gotten some “inspiration” for some Silver age-styled funniness for Goku.
Sometimes Silver Age Superman comics feel like nothing more than a Dollar Store version of Archie comics plus super-powers.
I think that was the idea since they couldnt make violent comics
I blame both the Comic Code Authority & Mort Weisinger (who was Superman editor from 1958-1970) for why Superman’s Silver Age was so bizarre and why Lois Lane was so “out of character”.
Dammit Lois, you were almost home free... And yet this is somehow less insane than the frog eating clone story from the Lois and Clark TV show.
Frog Eating Clone? Did Lois try to romance it?
Nope, the clone was made to replace Lois, who was kidnapped by Lex at the time. Don't worry though. She escaped but hit her head, got amnesia, and thought she was a lounge singer named Wanda Detroit, all the while the clone of Lois falls for Supes... Yeah, typing about this doesn't do it justice. It needs to be seen to be believed.
Oh and the whole Wanda Detroit thing came from a memoir Lois wrote... I swear, that entire storyline feels like a fever dream, with a frog eating clone.
@@scarletshark6810 Wow. That's sound like a crackfic of a Silver Age story. I hope the episode was called "The croaking of Wanda Dayton" or something weird like that.
@@phonybeautrain6520 I wish. It was called Double Jeopardy... Though there is a scene in the show where someone sees Lois in the street and yells: It's Lois Lane! This causes everyone to run away screaming...
Imagine how awkward this would’ve been if Lois had moved to Gotham or Central City and dated one of Clark’s super friends. Now that sounds like something you were here in a superhero soap opera!
Edit: It is noteworthy that in Superman the animated series, Bruce Wayne did date Lois Lane briefly. Just imagine the superhero shenanigans!
Wait so women don't like it when you punch sharks? All that training was for nothing. Also I'm gonna need somebody to check in on Rand.
Lois Lane's old comics really are a good example of why I hate will they won't they in stories and all that jazz
Because it's just killing time. People have known that Clark and Lois were meant to be together since the 1930s
And yet never, until the late 90s could we have a story that was just ABOUT people IN a relationship
Superman and Lois, CLARK and Lois trying to make it work, everything on the table, is so much more interesting.
I think they are entertaining for how ridiculous and over the top the will they won’t they gets.
I loved this! I knew Lois and Supes would get back together in the end. With the introduction of Rand, I became more invested. His red-shirt status was obvious from the beginning, but how hard would his heart get stomped? The writer was nice; it could’ve been worse. At least he got a last kiss. Fun story, thanks!
Rand Kirby deserved an amazing life with every good thing possible, as far away from Lois & Superman as possible.
When...for a brief moment...Lois wakes up from the curse placed upon her mind and tries to have a real life.
The Silver Age was indeed wacky but the weirdest thing about it was the way it treated and presented relationships. Presenting toxicity and dysfunctional as something desireaable.
The most refreshing thing about Lois is that she always...WITHOUT FAIL...lists handsome first when describing her man. None of this "Loving your personality" BS.
Lmbo, Yeah I wish REAL Women had this type of honesty.
almost everyone goes for looks first
I think if Lois ever found the right LL initials Clark would finally put a ring on it. Perhaps a surname with more syllables; Lori Lemaris certainly got him closer to a committed relationship than Lois ever has in this title.
‘If you leave Neal Adams alone, the madness goes up at least 5 points.’
Yeah, no kidding. Mr Adams was a great artist but man he was a little wacky.
Rand, with his blonde crew cut, looks amazingly like Barry Allen. Was almost hoping it was Barry in disguised the whole time!
I love the panel where Superman calls a woman falling to her doom, "A kook!" 🤣
Look for it. Timestamp: 9:49
He said "a kook... but the wrong one" meaning even he considers Lois a kook.
You know it's love when he gives you golden statues of his friends🤣
Lois came so close to escaping the endless cycle. She's like the Moneypenny of comics, forever pining for an unattainable alpha male hero.
But even Bond treats Moneypenny better than silver age Superman treats Lois.
Lol, Bond to Ms. M, Montypenny you are so much better than a computer.
Ms. M to Bond ..In all sorts of ways. 😂😂😂
@9:50 "A kook... but the wrong one! Why couldn't it be Lois?" I guess he saw Batman's dynamic with the Joker and wants that in his life 😉
Lois keeping the same initials with her new identity also fits in with a hokey trope in fiction from this era, particularly common in the crime/mystery genre, where people who use an alias supposedly can't resist using the same initials. It's often excused with "all my stuff is monogrammed" and not being able to, y'know, just buy a new suitcase or whatever, and of course it also shows how criminals are creatures of habit (as well as being cowardly and afraid of bats, of course). In real life it's utter bullshit, but you still see it bandied about as an urban myth even today. Cops wish people were that stupid when they try to conceal their identities...
I recently watched a bunch if TV from the 50s and they did this a couple times where people were caught by their monograms being the same as their old name. And at least one case where they had changed their name to their victims initials so that they could keep and use their fancy stuff all monogrammed of course, and eventually that's how the detective catches the handsome but lazy/stupid criminal.
I guess monogram culture was way more prevalent in the past, it's not something I ever think of.
I mean, there're many stupid criminals in real life.
@@mray4784 my father once overheard two thugs on the train, talking about how annoying it was when the police waited for them at a place they were planning to rob, how could they have possibly known??
@@mray4784 There absolutely are, but how many of them have monogramed luggage and handkerchiefs these days? It's like finding tailors' labels in clothing as a clue. Might have made sense once upon a time, but pretty unlikely today, especially after over a century of media telling people they shouldn't use the same initials when incognito or leave identifying marks in the clothes of that body they're dumping.
Thankfully modern CSI more than makes up for it, even if it isn't the outright magic Hollywood portrays it as. And crooks are still very, very stupid on average. That never changes.
The 'all my stuff is monogrammed' excuse is absolute gold XD
Rand’s parents are never going to let him live this down.
The Dawson’s Creek meme was so perfect for this video cuz these comics reflect an arc that actually happened in the show.
I'm glad Superman and Lois have an actual loving relationship in later comics, shows and the like because early comics before their characters and relationship were fleshed out sure were something.
LOL, I just bought this comic. Love these crazy Lois Lane books.
Lois Loon. Seriously the Lois Saga is infinite in its emotional depth and breadth.
Rand needs to come back as an actual villain.. Do you remember?! Do you remember Lois! LOL
It was me Barry errr Lois, I, ur greatest foe from the 30th century, tried to get you to fall for ME Mr. Perfect but nooooo….
I think we could have an alternate universe were Cyborg Superman is Rand instead of Hank, they're both astronauts lol
I'm a huge fan of ridiculous silver age comics (especially Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen's titles) so thank you for your in-depth, hilarious coverage! I recently read Superman #210 from 1968, and I beg you to cover it! It's the most messed up Superman story I've ever seen, featuring Clark faking his suicide and Superman giving his (own) eulogy ENTIRELY TO MAKE LOIS FEEL BAD FOR NOT DATING CLARK. There's no valuable lesson, no convoluted plan to actually help Lois or catch some bad guys, just straight up meant to leave Lois overcome with guilt for not wanting to date such a Nice Guy as Clark Kent. I bet you would tear the story to shreds and I would love to see it!
Silver Age Lois, by itself, is what it is. But Silver Age Lois as told by Casually Comics is RUclips GOLD!!
Gf: "I can be your Lois Lane."
Me: "I think we should see other people, then."
What a wonderful video! Your passion for the seriously messed up Silver Age Lois/Superman relationship is the most delightful thing ever.
If I may recommend a future Lois-getting-married story, one that really IS wacky shenanigans from beginning to end: from Superman's Girl Friend Lois Lane #28, "Lois Lane, Gun Moll!"
Silver Age + Lois + Sasha (Great wig, by the way!) = Greatness! Bonus Points for "Rand Inside"!
This almost feels like a Golden Age comic in the way it presents a solid romance story at the very start, and finally descends into the Silver Age's, "We Can't Have Characters Move on With Their Lives" ideal! I would've liked doing a companion-piece to this, where Lois DOESN'T end up going back to Superman! But her relationship with Rand will probably go a little slower, since she's still trying to get over her last love.
After the coverage of all these Lois Lane stories I think finally have set in my mind why she is always so quickly moving into these marriage's. Probably hard to find a guy interested in her because if I read her news stories everyday, though exciting, I wouldn't want to be constantly caught up in danger. I would think more guys than Superman would possibly block her advances and when that fishing hook actually catches something even if it is a blue gill of a man wanting to marry her I don't think she would pass up on it in the Silver Age.
8:03 it's like the Cuphead show, everyone was saying it's like a 20-39's cartoon but if fact it's how we remember they were
I think my favorite part about this is that in the end Superman and Lois both show they are horrid and toxic so they really do fit as a couple
I really want this to be Rand's super villain origin story
He can be DC's handsomest -- and really most likeable -- super-villain!
Rand Kirby aka the New Leader of the forlorn the Underground Union of jilted Super-Villains, now known as Shleprock, with the powers of steeling a Women’s internal vitals. Yikes
I really love these old Lois Lane stories. Something that's missing since Superman married Lois and had a son. Bronze age and silver age stories were such fun. You didn't have to read multiple books or several issues to get an entire story. Still waiting for you to do a review of The New Teen Titans issues 1-5 by Marve Wolfman and George Perez and Tales of the New Teen Titans #42-44 and Annual #3 "The Judas Contract".
Reminds me of the Futurama scene: "You take my breath away"!
Can’t Superman tell when people are lying by monitoring their life signs and stuff? He’s got every other super power.
4:00 Honestly, Lucy does say it to him. Multiple times. But then they get together because Lucy enjoys Jimmy's suffering...Honestly, maybe she should get with Superman.
Lucy and Jimmy deserve their own Playlist lol they're a mess.
@@CasuallyComics Lucy's wild ride as a character in general would be amazing.
this video SENT ME!!! I laughed so hard at 'Lois Lorne' that my neighbors came to check on me. they thought I was dying!
IM SO GLAD YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE!
I love Lois's fashion in this issue.
Your Superman voice is killing me!! LOL!!!
Ah the SGLL the Gift that just keeps on Giving 🙏🏾 …Rand seems stable , but like You I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop…💡Maybe starting His Lois trophy room with some bust & statues made of that Kryptonite 🤔 …Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
If only the astronaut was more handsome…..
In the 90s the Lois/Superman breakup would have been spun out for at least a year.
I think the twist with Rand is that he is just a perfect prince charming guy who genuinely loves her, because there have been so many crazy twists and gimmicks with her other love interests that Rand us the ultimate twist: The subversion!🎉😂
I’d say that I’m surprised she didn’t use the opportunity of Superman missing her party to get an amazing date or given it’s Lois marriage as some kind of reconciliation for that but this is also the women who jumped off a cliff in the hopes that Superman would save her like he always does and give her a lift to work instead of waiting for her car to be fixed like someone who isn’t reliant on Superman to save them whenever and then dumped him for a reformed Lex because she didn’t think that Superman might not be able to save her because he’s in space or something so this actually tracks with her silver age character. It’s just kind of sad how hard she tried to move on only for Superman to make her fall “in love” with him all over again. Poor Rand Kirby never stood a chance
Lol, I just thought of this…Rand Kirby and I should compare notes.
I wonder if the writers did this to troll readers or teach readers a lesson 🤔
But she still went back to the bad relationship though, not a good lesson, although kind of normal for the time...
Looking at Lois’ face you’d think that this was a Tales From the Crypt or Vault of Horror comic.
I thought this break up lasted longer (like to issue 100). I love the cover for issue 80. Even apart from her throwing the girlfriend off the title, I just really like her dress
Man the Silver Age was fun! Thanks for the episode, really enjoyed it.
dang it, Sasha some us play these videos as background entertainment at work. The 21:48-22:00 screaming leaking out of the earbuds is hard to justify to people around.
Good lord that second part confrontations did not need to be that intense I felt uncomfortable by the end of the story lol
Team Justice for Rand. He could have become Superman's hamest foe with the hashtag #RandWasRight
"the inside track." I live it!
Sad Supes crouching in the bushes is everything!!!
You might say Lois was...love Lorne.
Lois being "Superman's Girlfriend" seems to be just in her head, because in all these comics she's never actually in a relationship with him.
I'd possibly even go as far as saying these stories are "revenge fiction" writtern by Lois, where she's getting one up on him for not caring about her by marrying someone else. And she's even wrote into the comic that Superman does secretly love her but can't tell her for reasons.
Justice for Rand!
I think you nailed his internal thoughts.
The green lantern corps had their eyes closed huh?
Youngblood Disease
I love your voice acting 😊
Once I ran to you (I ran)
Now I'll run from you
This toxic love you've given
I give you all a girl could give you
Take my tears and that's not nearly all
Toxic love (oh)
Toxic love
You know, Neil Gaiman's Sandman really makes Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane make a lot more sense. We already know Despair is responsible for life Superman, so it only makes sense that Desire, Despair, and Delirium are betting on Lois the way the bet on Emperor Norton I.
Oh that's cool
She can always go find Strong Bear!!!
Kirby, eh?
I wonder if there was some weight to choosing that name...
"Lois Lorne" 😄 as in lovelorn?
The Lois Lane, Superman's Girlfriend episodes are fantastic. Sasha's take on the characters is nuanced.
I think this might be one of my new favorite Lois Lane stories.
Love how Sasha always makes my day. And, as usual, reinforces my love for comics.
Sasha, please do a review of the Grant Morrison 's run on Green Lantern.
PS
How come old comics has so much content?
Kudos Always to Sasha.
Wow, that was an intense episode. I don't think I could read a hundred issues of Lois running around trying to get married. I thought the twist with Rand would be that he was Lex Luthor taking advantage of Lois.