NOBODY could poss fault ur vids for any reason. they r EXCELLENT , PROFESSIONAL…. and,SUPERIOR . thnku . pls pls keep making them. we all enjoy watching them SO much. i love the b4 & after comparisons.
This kind of thing is documentary gold. Imagine if we'd had something like Google Streetview decades ago to record the lay of the land and the ability to switch views through the years. I am curious what will happen to that disused section. It looks like it's just a footpath and local curiosity now but I wonder if given more time it will be dug up and the land sold off or repurposed. I live in New England now, in Maine USA, and even in the 25 years I have lived here, I've seen highways changed and new roads built, empty areas become commercial or residential zones. After a while it just fades from memory and people only see places as they are now. Those of us who enjoy local history and get nostalgic for how it was appreciate folks like you documenting changes, because nobody else will. 'Official' sources might archive the maps and plans but in another 10 years people living around (Rotherham you said?) won't realize it wasn't ever like this. Look forward to the next one now. Cheers, mate. Stay well.
Great video, brilliantly put together and blending the old photos with the current really helps. Also backed up with facts and dates so well done. A road I know well in both forms so a little trip down memory lane. Just subscribed as well 👍
I used to travel on this road a lot, as a child, and always remember it being a very busy road. I also saw the various improvements over the years. I remember being stuck in queuing traffic at the Red Lion junction, before the alterations which created the turning lanes and the traffic lights were installed. Also, the right hand turn into Goosecarr Lane, before the turning lane was introduced, used to hold traffic up. Glad to see the road changed but so sad that it took the loss of life to achieve it. A memorial would have been nice. On a personal note, I’m pleased that I’ve found you again - I’m still subscribed to History 0114.
Thanks for this video. I was recommended the parkwood springs video this morning, watched it and thought I'll subscribe. Saw the Todwick link and thought id watch it, I remembered straight away I'd seen you filming this a few weeks ago as I pass you on the A57 in my van 😂 Good work!! Thanks
Great video, enjoyed that, thank you. Can I just say that your diagram at about 18.07 and google maps give the impression of nice gentle sweeping curves for the old road when it always seemed there was a sharp left hand 90 degree bend and a sharp right hand 90 degree bend. On that section, heading to J31, at the sharp righthander there was a small brick built building, may have been a stable (?), which was regularly hit and needing repair. As I said, great video and thanks for posting
Very interesting video thanks. I’d not actually noticed the change 😂. I was part of the emergency response to the blocking of the 57 in Dec 2010 during the snow and to be honest I didn’t pay much attention to the road layout because it was covered with big snow drifts 😂😂
It was always a scary crossing even going straight over as impatient drivers would jump the lights. Over the years they tried different combinations of lights and filters but none stopped the idiots. I was ultra cautious when driving at night there as drivers would shoot out from the Dinnington direction at any time. The new road is a great money earner! It's dual carriageway, wide footpaths (but few if any pedestrians) centre barrier but is limited to 50 MPH (could easily be 60 or 70 as other dual carriageway parts of the A57, around Worksop for example are.) However the hilltop on the the northern side is a spot where the camera van parks catching many.
@@tourobscure I just checked NLS maps (National Library of scotland) and the map from 194-1973 shows a marking of LB at that spot. I thought perhaps Letter Box ,But all I can find for that is Lifeboat or London borough, and I know its not those!
@@maxusboostus having driven on the road countless times between the ages of 5-18 I can’t recall a letter box ever being there. Maybe something that was tucked away behind the bushes when the original road was in place. Who knows! love a good mystery
There definitely were street lights on the road as can be seen on the Google Images. As for the road being dangerous, not, it was bad driving that caused the accidents. As a local, I travel this road regularly.
I was involved in an accident there sat at traffic lights with 3 cars in front, was then hit from behind by a lady doing 60, the force squashed us all sat at the lights together, still have back pain to this day! She said she put her foot on the wrong pedal after coming off a night shift….
Greets from Blackpool. Any chance that while you are doing the transitions from current to old Google street view, that you could give us a few seconds of both images faded in so the old and the new are superimposed over each other. Same for satellite views. Got you subbed mate. Thanks...
I'm sorry have I pronounced this wrong for almost 40 years? Is it toddick or Todwick? Otherwise amazing video, really enjoyed seeing what was once so familiar but now hard to imagine. Great vid mucka 👍🏻
@@bigbutzero1 you aren’t wrong or right….different generations pronounce it differently. It’s a 50/50 split. All depends how old you are, where you’re from etc. Thanks for watching!
The most dangerous section was coming from the M1, just past the cottages on the S bends into the retaining wall section which is now part of the new road. It was narrow and resulted in the 6 deaths with the head to head. Due to a drunken driver overtaking. Very sad and still remember it to this day. The dual Lane after the roundabout upto the garden centre should be single. Still a dangerous section with the racing crews
I was one of the 100+ crashes here (very minor happily). Also drove past a terrible one in the 80s as a child. Knew of the people involved in the really bad one - that was a drunk driver who caused that. The bends were the worst part as cars and especially trucks didn’t realise how tight it was.
From day one of this new piece of road, I've wondered why the pavements are so wide and why are there light controlled pedestrian crossings? The pavements go basically from nowhere to nowhere! Is there perhaps a school going to built there or some other pedestrian intensive complex.
Nightmare trying to follow on Google Maps between Pet Pantry and Red Lion with 15yo images being used. I spent a year travelling from Glossop to Kiveton about 1980 so would have crossed at Todwick daily. (Still trying to remember where I was working or the nearby pub😮 - which wasn't this Red Lion)
I feel compelled to say the new road didn't follow the old one for 1/4 mile. At 1:37 in this video you can see the old one crisscross the new one, rather than join it.
Red Lion used to be on main road before you got to Aston. Don't know how it's affected. Main road to M1. Motorways are a help but also a right pain in the neck! Supposed to be faster, but never! If you use M6 toll costs! Just take your time its better.!
@@petermiller8098 I agree, I think it's possibly partly to restore some of it back to natural hedgerow and 'wilderness' while making it obvious they only intend pedestrians to use it. If they had left a full width road it might encourage the hoons to drag race or ride motorbikes up and down it. Plus it puts a boundary between the new road and the 'countryside' (I am speculating I don't know the area beyond what's shown)
Used to drive the old road every day when I worked in Dinnington, never had any problems with it. The new roads an improvement but Todwick cross roads/round about was scary trying to turn right to Todwick Todwick from M1 Round about hasn't improved it still accident black spot due to being duel carriageway &higher speeds. Still a nightmare turning right from Dinnington to M1@busy times
@@LJSW-rp6xm depends - a lot Of older generation refer to it as todick, however younger pronounce how its spelt. I take it from my grandparents as TodICK!
That road had a deadly blind bend where cars would drive too fast into it. There is another road nearby Kingsforth lane that has taken many lives. There's been many petitions about it and only recently had some calming measures put in place.
Just watched this and it's right up my street - excuse the pun.. I have a fascination for abandoned roads and railways, so this was fascinating and really well explained.. Thank you 😊
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Sends a shiver down seeing six killed on the A61 near Wakefield 24 years later on Sunday. Change attitude don't blame the road.
I used to drive that road all the time. It’s amazing how routes can change and you forget what they used to be like. Great video 👍👍👍
Interesting and well researched video. Brings back memories.
NOBODY could poss fault ur vids for any reason. they r EXCELLENT ,
PROFESSIONAL…. and,SUPERIOR . thnku . pls pls keep making them. we all enjoy watching them SO much. i love the b4 & after comparisons.
@@shez3530 Thankyou very much for your kind words 😊 I’m glad you enjoy! I have no plans to stop any time soon!
This kind of thing is documentary gold. Imagine if we'd had something like Google Streetview decades ago to record the lay of the land and the ability to switch views through the years. I am curious what will happen to that disused section. It looks like it's just a footpath and local curiosity now but I wonder if given more time it will be dug up and the land sold off or repurposed. I live in New England now, in Maine USA, and even in the 25 years I have lived here, I've seen highways changed and new roads built, empty areas become commercial or residential zones. After a while it just fades from memory and people only see places as they are now. Those of us who enjoy local history and get nostalgic for how it was appreciate folks like you documenting changes, because nobody else will. 'Official' sources might archive the maps and plans but in another 10 years people living around (Rotherham you said?) won't realize it wasn't ever like this. Look forward to the next one now. Cheers, mate. Stay well.
Very scary road at times! I'll remember nervously waiting to turn right into the Red Lion as long as I live!
Brilliant! So informative, another great video! Well done!
Great video. Brings back lots of memories.
@@simonk8270 Thankyou very much my friend! Glad I brought back memories. I’ll add your name to the credits!
Used to use the old road daily to get to work and then when i lived in dinnington. I don't know why old road was ever an issue.
Did you not listen to the video thiko
Love this one. Can still remember the old road and them buildings the new one.
Great video, brilliantly put together and blending the old photos with the current really helps. Also backed up with facts and dates so well done. A road I know well in both forms so a little trip down memory lane. Just subscribed as well 👍
Thankyou very much my friend!
I used to travel on this road a lot, as a child, and always remember it being a very busy road. I also saw the various improvements over the years. I remember being stuck in queuing traffic at the Red Lion junction, before the alterations which created the turning lanes and the traffic lights were installed. Also, the right hand turn into Goosecarr Lane, before the turning lane was introduced, used to hold traffic up.
Glad to see the road changed but so sad that it took the loss of life to achieve it. A memorial would have been nice.
On a personal note, I’m pleased that I’ve found you again - I’m still subscribed to History 0114.
Very well presented
I lived in the area in the late 90s early 2000's not been back since nice to see the road improvements!
Fascinating. Used to travel on the old road and it was bloody dangerous. Great film
With the overlays. Thanks
Very well made thank you I enjoyed watching that.
Great video, I really enjoyed it, I remember the old A57 well, the improvements have made travelling through that area much safer❤.
Thanks for this video. I was recommended the parkwood springs video this morning, watched it and thought I'll subscribe.
Saw the Todwick link and thought id watch it, I remembered straight away I'd seen you filming this a few weeks ago as I pass you on the A57 in my van 😂
Good work!! Thanks
Thanks
Thankyou very much my friend! Very kind of you. I’ll add your name to the credits going forward!
@@tourobscure That’s very kind of you 😁 I just wanted to show my support.
Nice!
Great video. Quite interesting.
I used to travel on the old A57 when I worked in the area years ago. Turning right at Goosecarr Lane was a nightmare.
very nice informative video
Great video, enjoyed that, thank you.
Can I just say that your diagram at about 18.07 and google maps give the impression of nice gentle sweeping curves for the old road when it always seemed there was a sharp left hand 90 degree bend and a sharp right hand 90 degree bend. On that section, heading to J31, at the sharp righthander there was a small brick built building, may have been a stable (?), which was regularly hit and needing repair. As I said, great video and thanks for posting
Very interesting video thanks. I’d not actually noticed the change 😂. I was part of the emergency response to the blocking of the 57 in Dec 2010 during the snow and to be honest I didn’t pay much attention to the road layout because it was covered with big snow drifts 😂😂
The farm house on the bend of the old Sheffield road had a truck crash through the wall into it's front garden about once every month.
I've driven that stretch many times new and old, such a huge and much needed improvement.
Yes I remember the old road there. It was a bit 'hairy' to drive down there sometimes.
It was always a scary crossing even going straight over as impatient drivers would jump the lights. Over the years they tried different combinations of lights and filters but none stopped the idiots. I was ultra cautious when driving at night there as drivers would shoot out from the Dinnington direction at any time.
The new road is a great money earner! It's dual carriageway, wide footpaths (but few if any pedestrians) centre barrier but is limited to 50 MPH (could easily be 60 or 70 as other dual carriageway parts of the A57, around Worksop for example are.) However the hilltop on the the northern side is a spot where the camera van parks catching many.
I used to take plant to the site depot when it was being constructed 😊
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Great documentary mate,just up the road from me,you are right, it was”forked off”😂😂👍🚴🏽♂️
Would love to have that as my private drive ❤
I think that concrete / brick structure behind the hedge is the remains of an old bus stop shelter, check streetview from 2011.
@@maxusboostus I did think that, but it the stones were bigger on the bus shelter from what I could see on street view
@@tourobscure Ah, umm it is a mystery then. I have no personal knowledge of the area just your video and streetview.
@@tourobscure I just checked NLS maps (National Library of scotland) and the map from 194-1973 shows a marking of LB at that spot. I thought perhaps Letter Box ,But all I can find for that is Lifeboat or London borough, and I know its not those!
@@maxusboostus having driven on the road countless times between the ages of 5-18 I can’t recall a letter box ever being there. Maybe something that was tucked away behind the bushes when the original road was in place. Who knows! love a good mystery
There definitely were street lights on the road as can be seen on the Google Images.
As for the road being dangerous, not, it was bad driving that caused the accidents. As a local, I travel this road regularly.
Excellent video, residents call it Todwick, people who don't live there lose the W Todick. No idea why tho 😊
It always felt dangerous to drive down...
I was involved in an accident there sat at traffic lights with 3 cars in front, was then hit from behind by a lady doing 60, the force squashed us all sat at the lights together, still have back pain to this day! She said she put her foot on the wrong pedal after coming off a night shift….
Greets from Blackpool. Any chance that while you are doing the transitions from current to old Google street view, that you could give us a few seconds of both images faded in so the old and the new are superimposed over each other. Same for satellite views.
Got you subbed mate. Thanks...
@@slashnburndotcodotuk thanks for joining us!
I’ll deffo make that happen!
I'm sorry have I pronounced this wrong for almost 40 years? Is it toddick or Todwick? Otherwise amazing video, really enjoyed seeing what was once so familiar but now hard to imagine. Great vid mucka 👍🏻
@@bigbutzero1 you aren’t wrong or right….different generations pronounce it differently. It’s a 50/50 split. All depends how old you are, where you’re from etc.
Thanks for watching!
The most dangerous section was coming from the M1, just past the cottages on the S bends into the retaining wall section which is now part of the new road. It was narrow and resulted in the 6 deaths with the head to head. Due to a drunken driver overtaking. Very sad and still remember it to this day. The dual
Lane after the roundabout upto the garden centre should be single. Still a dangerous section with the racing crews
I was one of the 100+ crashes here (very minor happily). Also drove past a terrible one in the 80s as a child. Knew of the people involved in the really bad one - that was a drunk driver who caused that. The bends were the worst part as cars and especially trucks didn’t realise how tight it was.
From day one of this new piece of road, I've wondered why the pavements are so wide and why are there light controlled pedestrian crossings? The pavements go basically from nowhere to nowhere! Is there perhaps a school going to built there or some other pedestrian intensive complex.
Nightmare trying to follow on Google Maps between Pet Pantry and Red Lion with 15yo images being used.
I spent a year travelling from Glossop to Kiveton about 1980 so would have crossed at Todwick daily. (Still trying to remember where I was working or the nearby pub😮 - which wasn't this Red Lion)
It looks much safer , how long ago was it changed ? Thanks
@@theequaliser5782 2014 the new
Road was opened, 10 years ago!
@@tourobscure thanks , it was hard to judge as the hedges looked much more grown up 👍
I feel compelled to say the new road didn't follow the old one for 1/4 mile. At 1:37 in this video you can see the old one crisscross the new one, rather than join it.
There were plenty of fatalities at the old cross roads. Driven both designs of the road and the roundabout is better.
Red Lion used to be on main road before you got to Aston. Don't know how it's affected. Main road to M1. Motorways are a help but also a right pain in the neck! Supposed to be faster, but never! If you use M6 toll costs! Just take your time its better.!
Lost my go pro there 😢
@@metoo1958 ahhh! how’d you lose it!?
@@tourobscure it fell off motorbike after roundabout 3m tape next time
Why have they stripped the tarmac from half the road but still left some?
@@tvtower couldn’t tell you I’m afraid. I’d love to know myself!
I'm guessing to keep it as a footpath
@@petermiller8098 I agree, I think it's possibly partly to restore some of it back to natural hedgerow and 'wilderness' while making it obvious they only intend pedestrians to use it. If they had left a full width road it might encourage the hoons to drag race or ride motorbikes up and down it. Plus it puts a boundary between the new road and the 'countryside' (I am speculating I don't know the area beyond what's shown)
Drive down there every day, when they first completed it, the roundabout had three lanes, which changed to two.
Used to drive the old road every day when I worked in Dinnington, never had any problems with it. The new roads an improvement but Todwick cross roads/round about was scary trying to turn right to Todwick Todwick from M1 Round about hasn't improved it still accident black spot due to being duel carriageway &higher speeds. Still a nightmare turning right from Dinnington to M1@busy times
Toddick I thought it was Todwick unless that a nick name. 😀
Is it ‘Toddick’ or ‘Todwick’? Dunno depends how old you are 🤷🏼♂️
@@LJSW-rp6xm depends - a lot
Of older generation refer to it as todick, however younger pronounce how its spelt. I take it from my grandparents as TodICK!
That road had a deadly blind bend where cars would drive too fast into it. There is another road nearby Kingsforth lane that has taken many lives. There's been many petitions about it and only recently had some calming measures put in place.
Nope Todwick if you live there Todick if you dont, whos the old man in shorts 😂@tourobscure
@@thesickboymethodgigvideos3474 that would be Papa Obscure! He sometimes tags along for the adventures and sometimes provides some useful info!
@@tourobscure he looks like he's in a really good band?
Best thing for it
Shite junction
Just watched this and it's right up my street - excuse the pun.. I have a fascination for abandoned roads and railways, so this was fascinating and really well explained.. Thank you 😊
Thankyou very much for watching!
@@tourobscure also just had a look and the google streetview for the old section is still live which is mad!
My friend was killed on this road by 2 idiots racing 😡