'Margin Call': A Movie Occupied With Wall Street 🎬
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Margin Call: A Small Movie Unveils Big Truths About Wall Street - Margin Call is a really nice movie, doesn't depict Wall Street 100% accurately (no movie does or will) but nevertheless is one of the most accurate depictions of any film I've seen. 'The ground is shifting below our feet and apparently there is no other way out!'
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This is what happens in my head when the 12 shares that I hold lose 0.000005% of their value
Hahahahahahhahahhahahaha
LOL. Safemoon!
This was Melvin capital in January. Lol
Buy AMC
Soon to be Citadel too
We had a similar meeting last year at my job due to covid. Very tense, a lot on the line. But if we succeeded at our goal, we could potentially get a Piggly Wiggly gift certificate redeemable for one free ham or turkey.
Same here but the incentive was a paid day for covid recovery and a washable face mask.
Honey ham?
Did you take the ham or the turkey, tho?
Gees that sucks man what if you dont eat swine ,and your a veggie
@@thor9294
Turkey. They were out of ham.
very impressive, let’s see Paul Allen’s fire sale now.
Oh my god, it even has a little water hose.
😂😂😂
Patrick, what’s wrong.m? You’re sweating.
Where is Bateman?
lol
The casting and acting in this movie is the highest level of any movie I've ever seen. NOBODY seems like they are acting, or speaking words they've memorized that were written by somebody else. And each character is a fully fleshed out personality. I am in awe of the acting in this movie.
The meta point is that in his speech, he is selling words of encouragement that he knows are worthless in the very same breaths in which he is instructing his team to sell assets with no value. His motivational speech is itself a fire sale, starting with value and ending worthless. This film is an underrated masterpiece.
I never considered that. Great catch.
I love this about it, that he tells them the facts and then tries to morally justify their role but fails hopelessly.
This and the Big Short should be in the Horror genre
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guess what’s coming with apes holding?
You can see his sincerity, but that the one thing he really doesn’t believe is that their talent has been used for the greater good. It’s as if the words refused to pass his mouth. Amazing acting.
Glad to see that you love Kevin Spacey and think he's a great person.
The most unrealistic part of this is where the company acknowledges that it'll negatively affect their employees
What do you mean?
@@David-vn4qu in reality it would be framed as the company being as much a victim as the employees, in the hope that it would let them get away with throwing an office pizza party instead of paying out millions in cash bonuses
Well they got a 2.7 million dollar bonus if it’s achieved
@@David-vn4qu the companies never let their dirty deeds out in the open. Meaning in real life the employeez would also be bamboozled, only the CEOs get out clean outta this mess with big fat checks from the government courtesy of the taxpayers.
Hahahaha 1000%. Reminds me of any employer I’ve been with in any country
I love how the Simon Baker character partially hides behind the doorframe while Kevin Spacey delivers the bad news. Typical Fortune 500 empty suit.
Hell of an actor, how he portray the feeling of guilt and yet trying to keep the spirit up for the fire sale is really on point. 10/10
"You're through to Citadel how may I help you?"
"Its a call for Kenny, tell him its Margin calling"
lol
She'll tell you to"... please hold."
@@bradawilliams1 hodl we will ma’am.
HODL 🚀
The lost is theoretically infinite
you see it throughout the film, but one of the best things about this film is when spacyes character is talking: when the glasses are on, its the executive boss, leading the team the company man trying to steer them through the rough. The glasses come off and its the human, realizing the gravity of what is going on, and is deeply affected by it. Man this was a great film.
In reality, most of the top tier traders would have stood up and walked out. The offer he is making is: everyone gets a 1.3M/2.6M bonus, if you sell out all your contacts that took you 10+ years to make and guarantee you being black listed FOREVER. On Wall Street, most traders of this caliper make 5M+ annual bonuses.
Watching this now because AMC and GME to the m00n 🚀
AMC TO THE MOOON!!!!
HODL
🦍💎🙌🏻💎🦍
#WeOwnTheFloat
What a day today💎🙌🦍
@@andrewr2349 sheeeeesh what about today!!!!!!! 🤯
Very often a Wall Street firm must unload securities due to concentration of risk. A bookie does the same when he is lop sided on the bets. So when the sales people say "my loss is your gain" the buyer thinks a bargain is coming his way. So speed is of utmost importance. In real life this scenario played out recently in the Archegos margin call fire sale. Two banks, Morgan Stanley and UBS were quick to unload and still lost millions. Two other banks, Nomura and Credite Suisse were slow to unload and lost billions.
I always took "my loss is your gain" - and everything else he says in that scene - to be hints to the people he's talking to. He outright says it, "this is a loss for us". He doesn't want to completely pull the wool over their eyes. But he's going to give them a steep discount, and if they're willing to play the game, if they think they can sell it on before the market is totally wrecked, they can make money too.
Citadel.. Kevin spacey is calling..
I could watch this movie and all of its clips a hundred times. In fact, I think I have.
This is basically the entire cryptocurrency community at the moment.
I was about to say the same
Just think of the people who bought BTC at 60k
good thing i have all my money in the tulip market
@@TheSakufighter Just the thought of that makes me want to barf 🤮 I'm buying now
Every 2 years or so.
The elites longest running ponzi scheme
My company is going through something similar right now. My department will be taking the hit first. We had the "some of you will be re-positioned in the company" conversation. Then, after the conversation, they noted how they expect us all to keep putting forth our best work until dooms day. Goodness, this scene is VERY true to life. For us, though, there will be no $1.3 million incentive--just a "thank you for you doing a good job" pat on the back, and that's all. :-( Please pray for me. :-( I pray to God we pull through.
I thought y’all were all getting two shares of CLOVE
I know he’s done some shit but damn, Kevin Spacey is a hell of an actor.
yeah just had the exact same thought
Actually, he has not been charged or convicted for that matter for any wrong doing. His only accuser was deemed un-credible (i.e a liar) and upon subpoena, failed to turn over evidence.
@@D.E._Sarcarean Exactly, it's a pure witch hunt, plain and simple. In my eyes he has done nothing wrong until found guilty in a court of law.
I don't think he did anything illegal because the accusers never have any evidence or witnesses. Kevin Spacey basically had his career ruined because everyone just assumed he was guilty.
you must be a sjw snowflake. grow up, ol Kevin didn't do anything wrong
93% seems like an unrealistic goal. Just enough where they probably only have to pay out a few bonuses to the top guys. But just enough motivation to get everyone else motivated enough to sell as much as they can to achieve their bonuses.
When Citadel gets margin called !
That whistle as if herding dogs tells you everything.
1987 and 2008...the two times in my lifetime that the markets almost completely melted down....2008 was worse and I was more aware (worked at a ML branch) which made it even more scary
My loss is your win today
4 years ago, I was part of a corporate downsizing. I knew it was coming for months, just not the exact date. We were assembled in a room and given the smoke and mirrors treatment. We were given a generous severance package separately and individually. My manager and H.R. rep started to give me the canned speech. I cut them off, asked where I needed to sign. My manager walked me to my office and asked if I needed a box for my personal effects. I said...I knew this was coming...all I need is my keys and wallet. I walked out with my severance package. On my way out, I saw people in tears. I just don't get the drama of getting downsized, especially when you know it's coming.
If it were me, part of me wants to say "how could I do it in good conscience".....and part of me wants to say John Tuld is right; we are just selling the same thing we always have, to the same willing buyers. A dilemma. Then.....they wave 2.7 million dollars in my face, and the balance gets tipped!!!!
Oh god we’re having a FIRE.. sale
Loool
"Aaaaamaaazzzing Graaaacee..."
I doubt Kenny's speach will be as eloquent..lol
Notice how Spacey lights up when explaining the bonus incentive?
Spacey is so good, and this might even be his best performance because it's real.
He's my hero, a truly great person. ❤💖💗💓
The stark honesty was refreshing.
Longest bull runs in history begin from the bottom of a big 'crash' , those having their funds managed are at risk, those that control their own funds typically become richer.
Facts
One of the few great movies recently among mostly violent and superhero movies.
A seller is a seller; always. He's speaking like he's done this before when in the previous scene Zachary Quinto's character asks him if he's ever done anything like this and Spacey's character says "no" like a Captain whose telling his crew to sail directly into a raging storm during the calm before it. Who was he lying to? Quinto's character or the brokers?
Great tension in the dialogues....very powerful and very well written & performed..!!
WOW....I THINK THE TWO GUYS AT THE END WERE THINKING "I WISH THAT I WAS AN APE RIGHT ABOUT NOW"
Now that I have done my finance classes, I really understand the gravity of the situation!!!! The sheer pressure and knowledge that your career will have a downwards sloping graph from this day onwards and having to do that activity that leads to that with with commitment. That is the toughest thing to do.
The problem is if a few do this, they stain everybody's carreer. So the way out is to join in and get the bonus atleast
I've seen this movie half a dozen times now and it never gets old...
On a side note - Mr Kevin Spacey is a great actor.
He’s a bad human but yeah he’s a phenomenal actor
@@alrom125 should not be judged as a human
this movie is so good because of the finer details... 0:12 - that expression says it all... give that man an Oscar
Idk, looks like a random Eastern European dude working in finance. The all have dead serious looks.
2021: Margin Call the Entire US
I keep wondering if that’s going to happen. Or if things will kind of limp on in fits and starts every so often. Crazy times.
Got that right.
Dont hold your breath - they said the Gamestop thing will change finance forever.
@@0daadaadaa0 it did. We know that the government is still in cahoots with Wallstreet. It was never about money, it was about sending a message, which it surely did.
@Paul Flusk You’re on to something. Safe havens the next couple years? Silver, real estate and no debt.
Great acting. This is 2021 for sure.
Pro-tip: never use margin and you’ll never face situations like this.
Danke aber ich Denke nur Americanisch brauch das
That's ridiculous. Every successful firm uses margin. You just limit the percentage of equity you margin.
That's why you have a stop loss and you hedge your downside.
Big firms trade naked calls all the time to the tune of billions. Of course that is illegal but it is done all the time.
@@jackthecat6225 There is nothing illegal about a naked call option.
For the greater good! Cheers!
"We have accomplished much and our talents have been used for the greater good." Ha ha ha
Regardless of his personality and predatory behaviour, Kevin Spacey is one of the all time greatest actors, period.
He is. I'm so angry at him that he couldn't keep it together and robbed me of his genius onscreen. I guess when you became too successful you get delusional and believe that you can do anything.
4:21 "but captain, I am unable to lie 🖖"
"our talents have been used for the greater good." Most funny, ironic line in the whole movie.
My hedge fund went from $9 billion USD to $2 in 48 hours
....due to a fire sale of muni bonds, set off by a LIBOR change
Sorry buddy. I know one guy who in 2009 said goodbye to $14 million in real estate.
I admire how fresh and coherent the guys who were up all night are...
Worldclass movie with the best actors you could wish for. I love this scene.
At the end he gets up and puts on his glasses. That's his signal to everyone in the room that "all I'm saying from now on is bullshit."
"... And our talents have been used... *trying to get the words out*... forthegreatergood. Here's your packages." *leaves*
Kevin Spacey is an amazing actor.
Kevin Spacey is a hell of an actor I forgot that I was watching a movie for a moment there.
I always remember his hand gestures in this amazing scene.
Imagine being 25 and getting 2.5 million dollars and living at home with your parents....couldnt get much better
And screwing other people out of millions of dollars in the process. This is unacceptable face of capitalism.
$AMC 10k in 3 weeks.
Too low too late. 100k less than 2 weeks. My prediction.
I laugh but I hope so because I have 5 shares lmao
OOTOO TO THE MOOON
@@massawakening1072 🦆
"I'm very proud of the work we've done here, providing absolutely no worth to humanity but making tons of money out of the market"
2:15 ...'your mother if she is buying' just brilliant )
Some serious acting here. Bravo!
No matter how much spin and sugar he puts on it, he's asking them to sell bad stocks to people who trust them, to save themselves. I would hope some of them would refuse, and just walk out the door. They have nothing to lose, as their positions are toast anyway. But at least they can look at themselves in the mirror the next day.
I saw this movie many years ago and could not remember the name of it.
Thanks for uploading this clip.
These are your packets, these are the Glengarry leads.
This is exactly like falling into the crypto traps
This movie is amazing , I watched it two days ago
Is it better than The Big Short?
@@tommyharris5817 I'll be watching that today , so I'll tell you later
@@tommyharris5817 it's better than the big short in my opinion
@@UNKNOWN-zr9yw so which one is better to start with the big short or margin ???
@@doodlez2439 I believe the Big Short is better because it puts the context preceding the crash more clearly.
Then margin call
Chicos me encantó Simón sublime!!! Que bueno verte !!! Besos mil !!!
WE’RE HAVING A FIRE………sale.
Let’s see this happen to citadel with amc to many short positions!
Not even close
@@jayharkins7389 you sure about that bud?
Loved this movie! Well written, great pace, excellent acting, and a number of compelling messages. However, a few things don't work. First, if a major Wall Street firm only has two risk analysts, I would be shocked. These firms are FILLED with MIT PHDs. Lots of brilliant people work on Wall Street. Something tells me that any firm that is custom producing mixed risk tranche mortgage back security products in such volume would have a very active risk management operation. Secondly, they would not discover almost by accident that their portfolio has breached risk parameters. Numerous people would be well aware DAILY of their risk capital situation. I think this script keeps the the cast small and the tension palpable. Now, do I believe most investment banks would knowingly sell worthless mortgage backed securities? Absolutely, and the crash in 08 makes that clear.
Nope, I worked for Citigroup during the housing crash. The entire San Francisco office has exactly 3 risk analysts. Each analyst were NOT PHD's, they had their Bachelors in Economics and Masters in either Business or Economics. The goal of the risk analyst was work for dedicated bankers which were selling the mixed risk NBS products. The people actually making the NBS products were in New York and a completely separate organization. So the people selling the products were isolated from the people creating the products. I know from the IT group in New York the entire risk management department was less than 8 people including managers and senior bankers which thought up these securities in the first place. Based on my conversations during that time with actual bankers, Citi did not care about the risk because these securities were not Citi's books for very long as Fanny and Freddy were buying. So over time, risk management was completely obscured because management view the risk to be low because the U.S Government was primary holder of most of these securities. The root cause of this whole issue was the U.S. Government lending Billions of dollars to banks which in turn gave it to people with no ability to actual repay the loan.
Risk Management departments are entirely occupied with making sure the firm conforms with the plethora of risk reporting frameworks and approved risk models. They're about as likely to uncover real risk as an audit by a big accountancy firm is to uncover fraud.
@@grast5150 Very interesting. I worked for a firm in Chicago on the debt side. We put together bank qualified muni deals about the time CMO's got hot. I sold bank qualified bonds and CMO tranches to banks. I don't recall if we had a risk management team, but we did have our own MIT PHD. He had been involved in the development of mortgage back securities. So, you're saying they either didn't know their risk position, or more accurately; they didn't care.
“Good morning everyone. Today I want you to steal money from everyone you contact in order to dump our worthless assets. You’ll be paid handsomely for your theft. Don’t worry about the people you’re destroying, it’s just business and I’m proud of each and every one of you.”
Love that Kevin Spscey’s hair is off kilter.
Great performances in this movie
"very very unique" at 3:00 LOL
AMC entertainment to the moon!!!!
Amc is about to squeeze!!! Hurry if you want a piece of the pie!
this comment aged well
@@davidgolden6068 This week tho
@@davidgolden6068 and it's not over yet
Still waiting…
This is such a fantastic movie. Great actors great script.
Kevin Spacey is one hell of an actor. One one hell of a SICKO.
Excellent casting and characters in this movie. These are exactly the kinds of characters inhabiting the investment banks. From Moore's stone-faced professional, to Bettany's wide-boy Will, and Iron's charming, but ruthless snake.
93% is not an attainable figure in a day, he could have promised any bonus.
You mean like selling calls with unattainable strike prices so they expire worthless and you keep the premium? 🤣
And people cry about low-level petty crime when the theft and crime you should be worrying about happens at this level.
Depends if that petty crime takes your life. Life is about perspective.
Just imagine how much worse it's going to be this time around when shorts are forced to cover AMC/GME and whatever other stocks are in this position
0:00-0:33 Kevin Spacey's pr team meeting when his past came to the the surface hahahahahaha 😆🤣
To audition for a role in this film you'd have been asked "can you scowl and look into the distance as if you are thinking deeply- that's all we need"
Do I need a Valium? Breathing heavy.. Benito save me
When Gossip Girl and Vision pushing toxic subprime mortgage sales
The fiction part here is that all these guys are professionals and seem to be in control even if a bit scared. In reality, this was not the case at all. Most of these guys were CLUELESS about any of this and did not have an action plan. The whole system is run by amateurs.
Well I think the idea being represented here is that while most of the market may have been suckers these guys specifically were sharks, which is probably why they were first
Yeah , most.... not them ... that’s the point of the movie??
@@Laotzu.Goldbug They were suckers, but the numbers guy realized it just before anyone else. Then they moved to shark mode.
Lol after offering people a chance to earn $2.7 million in a single workday I'm pretty sure you can skip the remaining pep talk.... No further justification needed lol
If you make $400k a year already and you are going to lose all your clients, $2.7m sounds good, but further thought might raise doubts in some peoples' minds.
Spacey and the crew did a great job IMO. Great movie.
You had me in the first half. :)
After the Glengary Glenross office break in, he quit and went to work on Wall Street, apparently selling Rio Rancho plots and swampland in Florida wasn't sleazy enough.
A scene on AMC...next!
Keyser Söze crushing it yet again.
Ever since a Beautiful Mind, I dont trust if Paul Bettany is actually in the movie or if he's just an imaginary character.
If he ages, he is real. Actually, the real John Nash never saw his imaginary friends, only heard them, so if you see Paul Bettany he is there, but his voice-overs are you going insane.
$$ AMC $$ to the freakin 🌙
Citadel Fire Sale incoming in the near futur. #AMCSqueeze
Perfect example of how big corporations cause major recessions just to save their own financial status.
When big business makes a mess of everything.
Everyone else will pay the price.
The only reason you live like a king is because they have their finger on the scale in your favor. the moment that finger comes off that scale things get real fair real fast and what you just said is proof you don't like that.
This should be unacceptable and we shouldn’t let risk hungry investing firms play with sometimes $billions and liquidate on a whim. There should be a law in place that makes them hold through the tough times. If they don’t want to, they should be more careful at what they invest in!!!
Market right now is a fire sale 🤔 hmmm
that's CRYPTO that is on fire sale