The new Restraints on the Big Apple Coaster make a difference. It goes from a very bad coaster to a slightly below average coaster. The transitions are still not good, but I felt the restraints did improve the comfort of riding it. It may still be the most over priced coaster in the USA.
They're definitely better, and as a reasonably tall person I didn't head bang on the new trains, but the forces are still there and some shorter people on my train did still complain about head banging against the collars. As I was getting off I was thinking "yep, still the worst roller coaster I've ever ridden" 🤣
The reason why Corkscrew still exists at Cedar Point is its history and nothing else. It's the 1st 3 inversion coaster in the world built in 1976 and had the 1st vertical loop by Arrow (that is if Great American Revolution wasn't opened 7 days prior to Corkscrew).
There is no reason to remove Corkscrew, it's a soft coaster that seems to not require much maintenance due to the low speed and low forces. A retrack could be nice like a park did in Germany. I am not sure but I think Vekoma is still producing parts for it. Mind blowing that Arrow was so up in the game compared to other factories.
Maybe you just don't like coasters that are a sort of in-between family coaster and regular coaster? I personally have a great appreciation for such 'transition' rides as they helped me make the jump to ride bigger and more intense coasters when I was young, and lead me to becoming more of an enthusiast. Honestly it's a shame there aren't very many rides like that.
Depends on the height requirement. When I was a kid, I remember I got upset at Hershey park because I was not tall enough to ride Wildcat and Lightning Racer, assumed I could ride those since I could ride Comet and superduperlooper. But those other two had low enough requirements for height that I could ride them and experience my first inversion. That's really the main thing I think why those coasters are important.
@@NoLanConnection Huh, that's odd. Wildcat was actually my first coaster, I was about maybe 10 and very short. And Lightning Racer is one of the coasters I remember most fondly. I was too scared to ride coasters with inversions so I didn't go on superduperlooper. But once I rode corkscrew at cedar point I found that going upside down was fun and not scary! I guess the height thing probably has something to do with the height of the coasters and their restraints to be able to ride safely and not indicative of intensity.
I consider the purpose of a ride before judging it. Iron Dragon and Grizzly and Hurler and Timberhawk don't seem like they were meant to be family rides. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it and I judge it based on it trying to be a thrill ride
Iron Dragon is super lame in the sense of being a coaster, but it holds a spot in my heart for being my first. It's a shame there aren't more tame rollercoasters like Iron Dragon for people who are just getting into coasters and don't want to be thrust into the deep end right away.
I went on Velocicoaster a couple days ago for my first not realizing it had universal praise for being one of the best in the world. Feeling insanely lucky right now especially after watching this!!
Got to take issue with Iron Dragon being here. While it’s not categorized as a family coaster it really does act as one and is a perfect step up for kids who are outgrowing the kiddie coasters. It’s smooth and has a nice meandering setting. No, it’s not thrilling or forceful, but I have come to enjoy it as a little break from the big thrills of CP, especially on a hot summer day. Can’t disagree with anything else here though…love the channel!
True. When we were kids Iron Dragon was my little sister’s first real coaster and she loved it. I remember complaining it was boring because I was older and the Magnum was around by then I think. But she loved it so much that I remember that fact to this day. My first coaster was the corkscrew and that was before even the Magnum was built. I loved it but my dad walked away with a migraine.
Part of what I like about going to parks like Cedar Point, is that you can sort of ride a timeline of coasters. From the oldest woodies of the bunch like Blue Streak and Gemini, all the way up to the newest like Gatekeeper, Steel Vengeance, and Valravn. I remember when rides like Corkscrew, Iron Dragon, Magnum XL-200, Raptor, Mean Streak, and Millennium Force came out in their respective years. For each of their specific times, they were THE best, and blew your mind. Even with rides like Iron Dragon there, I can remember being the very first time I have ever been on or even seen a suspended roller coaster. I know space can be at a premium at parks, but to me it’s fun to go back on those rides, even if they don’t seem as thrilling today, and remember just how moms-blowing they were at the time. With some exceptions of those that weren’t good from the start. Like Disaster Transport at Cedar Point. LOL!
As much as I want grizzly to be RMC'd(it's in my home park) I feel like it makes a lot more sense to RMC Hurler(Carowinds) because Carowinds is more visited(I think)
Iron Dragon is actually one of my favorite rides at the park because it isn't that intense. It's been a while since I went, but I rode it and while I may agree it's bit underwhelming I still thought it was fun and the latter half with the mist is enjoyable. I think there are a lot worse rides than it.
Ha!!! I checked back on rcdb, and apparently, Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster closed down before the pandemic even started. That's a bigger failure than Bat(Kings Island) or Windjammer(Knotts Berry Farm)
I have only ridden four of these: Iron Dragon, Corkscrew (CP), Big Apple, and Pegasus. I only found Iron Dragon to be moderately boring, but the finale over the water and the swinging on the final brake run were the redeeming values for me. The OTSRs were more comfortable than I though. On Corkscrew, I actually get a small pop of, if not some airtime on the airtime hill after the first drop. The loop is not bad at all, and if you really brave yourself and hold your head still while holding on tightly, you can almost avoid the head banging on the corkscrews entirely. I only rode Big Apple once with the old trains. The ride was shaky, but tolerable for me. My only gripe was the hang time on the dive loop, as it put a lot of stress on my shoulders. I agree with you on Pegasus though. The ride may be small for a wooden family coaster, but it has many flaws. The track work is poor, and that sharp turn on the final brake run really throws your body against the train harshly, which is surprising for a ride meant for children. I would not be surprised if the tore this down and replaced it with something more smooth and enjoyable.
Well Chris, The pacing of #25 is why a lot of people call it "Iron Draggin". Ditto with the roughness of the Canada's Wonderland woodie being called "Spinebuster"
I've got to time warp last summer and we had a good time. I was expecting the worst but really me my friends who went with me considered it fun and snappy. We were all kinda small so I think it contributed to our experience a lot.
Roar should be much better next year because the park announced at an ACE Event that they're replacing all 8 layers of wood for the entire ride, and they're looking very seriously at putting steel track (probably titan track) in the high stress sections
@@annemitchell4822 they said they looked at layouts from rmc and wanted to go with that option, but six flags wouldn't give them the 10 million dollars
I like that this list doesn't have defunct coasters. If I made a list with defunct rides included, it would be completely different and my #2 would probably be #5 or 6.
Right when you mentioned "Coast Rider" my shins INSTANTLY stung. That ride is hell and every time I see a line for it, I question how people can ride it-
I started writing this comment in my head about how we needed to talk about why CGA's Grizzly wasn't on this list, but you didn't let me down Chris. I feel like you haven't done justice to how bad the Grizzly is in the past, and we've had a couple of these comment section conversations about it before, so I'm stoked you've seen the light!
Back when it first opened it was great! Now it's so rough that you can't enjoy it at all, and they've built into the woods around it taking away that "chase through the forest" feel.
Compounce is my home park and I only ride Wildcat when I bring new people to the park with me. Seeing their reactions to just how bad it is is worth it.
I still dont understand how a coaster with the size and layout of the LC Wildcat can be so bad. And Boulder Dash is getting pretty bad too which is a shame.
Iron Dragon is not as bad as people make it out to be. If you go into it knowing it’s not an airtime machine or an intense ride, it’s a fun ride the whole family can enjoy. Of course, when it was built, it was probably labeled as a thrill machine, but coasters have changed over the years and this one fell into family coaster territory. However, for how old it is, the thing is smooth. Night rides in the front are always a great time too.
@@coasterland325 i dont hate standups, I'm actually a fan of riddler and i like green lantern more than most. Vortex sucks though and I just got nothing out of scorcher
Agreed. It's honestly one of the best rides in the park. How it got mentioned and how the Blue Hawk (former Ninja) didn't make this list is beyond me. It is the absolute roughest steel coaster I've ever ridden and it's honestly not a very fun ride IMO. And the Georgia Cyclone is the last wooden coaster I ever road. Maybe it was the mistake of getting the very back sit but I have never had a coaster beat me to death like that last ride on the Cyclone did. Maybe it's better now that it's the Twisted Cyclone but I'll never know.
I gotta disagree with you on a couple of those rankings. I rode Iron Dragon front row when I went to Cedar Point this year, and it was actually really fun. You fly really close to trees and the water, and the unobstructed view makes it really fun. And I rode Hurler back row, and you get some pretty substantial ejector off the first drop and through those airtime hills after the first drop. I disliked Carolina Cyclone way more
Being from Michigan, about halfway between Michigan's Adventure and Cedar Point, I grew up assuming any roller coaster named "Corkscrew" was going to be a painful ride.
On a wristband day, me and my daughter rode pirates hideaway at Casino pier about 15 times. It did hurt a little but the smile on her face made it one of my favorites. She's 4 and for her it was an amazing ride.
Thanks for this cool video ! Unpopular opinion : I absolutely love Monstre at LaRonde. Even though it's rough, I still find enough redeeming factor in this coaster to appreciate it. After that small first drop section, one track rises up into an airtime hill, before plunging straight into the structure, while the other track takes a curved drop followed by a bunny hill. These two moments took me off guard, and are among my favorite airtime moments ! Even after having ridden better, smoother and much more modern woodies, Monstre is still a personnal favorite, stacking against rides like Wodan or Shambhala. Despite a rather weak and bumpy layout full of old-fashioned helices, these two drops really make it worth the ride for me. Furthermore, being at LaRonde doesn't help its reputation.
The coasters I hate are the ones that are painful or the layout is just bad/delivers no good forces and airtime. My least favorite is T3 because of the leg smasher. They could have chose any one of the following names and it still would have worked: Terrible 3, Torn down 3, Leg Crusher, Leg Smasher, Mind Eraser, Leg Destroyer, Thigh Crush, Terror 3(because it makes you have terror that you're about to get your leg amputated), Sucks Like Crap
I love iron dragon. It's the coaster I ride when I need a "break" it's in my top five. Not bc it's like top five in quality...it's top five in my heart
Tbh, I could see Hellcat turning into one of those underrated gems because it is opening near year after a full retrack, and if I'm just looking at the layout, it looks great
Oh, man…I’m so torn about you putting Predator at 4. On one hand, Darien Lake is my home park, and I worked there for Fright Fest during college, so I have all the feels about it. But on the other hand…you’re not wrong. It’s soooooooooooooooo rough. And I haven’t ridden it in probably 15 years. I can imagine it’s only gotten worse 😬😬
Predator used to be my favorite ride when it ran a lot smoother back in the early 2000s, but it is pretty much intolerable ever since, I would love to see it get some tlc. Darien Lake's Mind Eraser is also terrible and should torn down.
I rode Time Warp at CW and I think the plot of land it and the awful SLC, Flight Deck share would be perfect for a B&M Invert, Flyer, or Wing Coaster. They both caused head pain and I was legit scared for my life on Time Warp as I was riding with smaller children who were holding onto me so that they didn't get hurt. RMC Wilde Beast would be awesome but it would completely over populate the Mideval Faire area where Wilde Beast and Leaviathan sit. Hulk really hurt me and is high up on my list.
Nice list, here’s my thoughts on the ones from the list I’ve been one Iron Dragon: I thought it was enjoyable. A little shaky, and pretty tame, but I like it’s setting and I see it as a family coaster Hurler: Pretty average woodie from my experience. It was a little bumpy and I didn’t get any airtime, but it had some nice laterals Tornado: Pretty much what you said. I really wanted to like this, since buzzbar woodies are kinda rare and I’m a fan of older wooden coasters, but it wasn’t great. I went back when Dragon was open and Tornado wasn’t much better Corkscrew: Definitely an unpopular opinion, but I actually prefer this to Valravn right across the midway. I liked these classic arrows, and honestly I found it more intense than rough. That airtime hill is no joke Vortex: It’s the only standup I’ve been on, but based on this I don’t like the concept. Just uncomfortable, but it’s one of B&Ms older models so it makes sense T3: Rough, weird restraints that try to cut your legs off, but for some reason I had fun ridding it. It was my first SLC and I’d honestly take this over a boomerang any day, it has a pretty cool layout Ninja: Really liked Ninja. I honestly don’t think it’s rough and it’s layout is so unique
I actually kinda like Pegasus. I thought it was a fun little coaster- nothing amazing, and if you know to brace for the turn, not bad (so long as you know to brace for it).
Honestly kind of surprised not to see Kumba here. Tbh it either needs a retrack or to be thanked for its years of service and replaced, getting an outside seat on that feels like running an Oklahoma drill against Ray Lewis.
I rode Predator about 15 years ago, and it was AWFUL. I was in pain for a week. But I think they’ve done some track work, and I rode it this summer, and it wasn’t bad at all. As for Hurler, I think it’s also had some track work. I’ve ridden it about a dozen times this year, and it’s not awful. I’ll say, I’d rather have a modern GCI like Mystic Timbers before they RMC it.
The Boss needs to be on this list. I don't understand rating boring coasters worse than painful ones. I havn't been on Roar since the early 2000's , people used to rave about that ride. I guess GCI woodies just haven't aged well.
The Boss is a difficult one... I need to ride it again. My 2 rides in 2018 weren't good but mainly because of the roughness. The ride itself is halfway decent.
I'm here to say that Hellcat is pretty solid. It's been a long time since I rode it, really looking forward to it reopening, also really looking forward to IB owning Clementon now. I drive by it pretty often and haven't seen any work being done on Hellcat at all, so hopefully it'll be open when the park opens (which in the past was Memorial Day weekend). I have seen them powerwashing the Ferris Wheel so I know that they're doing at least some maintenance stuff in the park.
I'll keep shouting into the void - I love Goliath!!! I think I must really value smoothness more than others. I'm not saying it's perfect but it is a really fun ride. Fast, smooth and intense-as-hell helix to finish.
Tidal twister hot take- fanTASTIC ride. I got insane ejector every time I flew over the hill. I will never complain about going over an ejector hill 8 times in a row
My guess before watching: Manhattan express, the shin splitter aka coast rider at Knott’s, roar at SFA, wild cat at Hershey park, and a few others I can’t name off the top of my head. Edit: ok definitely should have seen Tidal Twister, time warp, and t3 coming. I’m a SoCal native, an everyone knows how bad tidal twister looks, much less rides. Time warp looks painful to just watch, and T3 is so bad it’s turned into a meme, even from KK themselves.
To be completely honest, I don't hate Grizzly. Mild floater on the drop in the back and its really smooth. CGA puts a lot of work into it so that it isn't rough at all, and they market it as one of their family friendly coasters, between their wild mouse and Patriot(their B&M stand up/floorless conversion). Its not a coaster that I try to get a ride on every time I visit the park, but CGA definitely has a reason to keep it. However, it does take up a LOT of space, and I wouldn't mind if they RMC'd it or took it out in favor of a B&M hyper or an S&S air launch coaster :)
I honestly think mighty Canadian minebuster isn’t that bad. Cw is my home park and if you don’t sit on a wheel seat it’s fine. It gave good airtime for me. When me and my friend went on wild beast for the first time on oct 31st it was bad Because of the roughness but we still had fun because it was hilarious. It was so funny we did a re ride and we don’t know why.
Maybe I have a soft spot for wooden coasters, but I rode Roar at six flags America and Hurler at Carowinds in early April 2022 and they weren't too bad. Shoot, Roar was the only coaster at the park I rode twice before riding the subway back into DC for the rest of the day
Thunder hawk is a solid ride and Roar is my favorite at America. I’m surprised it’s on this list because I always enjoy riding it and consider it a great layout
Honestly time warp isn’t that bad as people say it is. Sure it’s not the best. But I would say that flight deck is way worse. It seemed to get smoother for some reason In 2021. My home park is Canadas wonderland.
As somebody who lives close to Cedar Point, the only ride I have any issues with being on this list is Iron Dragon. I was terribly scared of roller coasters for the first 18 years of my life thanks to a ride on Space Mountain at Disney World at Age 3. For some reason the hanging coaster made me more comfortable, so I was able to get on the Iron Dragon. That made me feel I could tackle Raptor... from there I've been hooked on all coasters. Short Anecdote. I was visiting some friends in Williamsburg, Virginia right before Big Bad Wolf closed. I had always wanted to ride it because of it's similarity to Iron Dragon. I've been told it was much better. I was in line for an hour waiting for a rainstorm stop so I could ride the thing. I left the park without riding it. Then it was gone. So disappointing. So to make a long story short (too late), I will always love riding Iron Dragon.
When I was a kid, my first coaster was Comet at Hershey Park and I'm grateful for that! Not only has it aged well as coasters grow ever more intimidating, it has become my frame of reference for how a great coaster experience should ride, move and feel. It is astonishingly smooth while being exciting and visually stimulating. I've returned over the years many times after riding more high tech coasters - some terrific and some awful - yet I still feel like that elder 1946 woody should be considered a gold standard in how a coaster ride experience should feel from beginning to end. The Comet may now just be a humble little woody among coaster giants, but it still thrills generations of coaster lovers and creates many new coaster fans each year.
Minebuster at Canada’s Wonderland was one of my favourites for years. Rode it last month and it earns its nickname Spinebuster. The first half was rough but not that bad. The second half was almost unrideable. Unbelievably rough.
I think my problem with Iron Dragon is that, it does nothing. Now I do not like Rougaru, Corkscrew, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, etc. The thing is though, I know I don’t like them, because there’s specific things I don’t like about them that make me remember them. Iron Dragon doesn’t, it’s so boring that I can’t even think of why I dislike it exactly. It just does… nothing.
Is #7 the original Corkscrew from Knott's? It's historic if it is. It was terrifying when it opened as no one knew what to expect. #2 There used to be one at the New Pike in Long Beach, CA (closed in 1979) it was fun as a kid. I miss it.
Iron dragon is indeed a family coaster, and while I do agree that it’s boring, I’d say it’s an ok family coaster, July 9th 2023 I went and it pulled a 45 minute line so I don’t think it’s going anywhere
Replace Iron Dragon with Rougarou, then it would be a nice list. In my opinion, Iron Dragon is a smooth ride and is a must ride for me despite the boring layout. At least it's better than going the forest to find the queue for The Bat at Kings Island (also a good coaster). Rougarou has a nice layout, but it's rough as all hell. I never rode it back when it was Mantis, but I don't imagine it being any better. I'm leaving Corkscrew alone as even though I enjoy it, I can definitely see why people hate it and consider it the laughing stock of Cedar Point.
You don’t like Goliath at magic mountain? Sure it’s outclassed in a park with so many better coasters, but if it was at a smaller park, it could be their best coaster. The first drop into a tunnel is so cool, and the helix makes me see just blue and orange sometimes
I've ridden Predator and Hades 360, both in 2021. Maybe I caught it on a bad day, but Hades 360 was far rougher. In fact, I would say it was the most painful ride I've ever been on. By far. Tried front and back. Both times, I felt like my insides were being shaken apart. Super jarring. Rode Predator three times, and besides one "pothole", it wasn't rough in comparison.
How did Adventure Express at King's Island not make this list? I visited the park for 6 days and one ride on that thing was enough for me. my back hurt for the rest of the day after that atrocity and then once I got on the beast it compressed my spine even more. but at least the beast has a fantastic night ride.
Please add Nighthawk at Carowinds and the god awful horrendous Great American Scream Machine at Six Flags over Georgia. They should be held in contempt! Lol.
With Six Flags DL being my major home park im more than happy that Predator finally got titan tracked, but I still think the layout is a bit lackluster and would've faired better with the rmc treatment. Gives a nice 2 to the 1-2 punch of ROS and itself, as I just don't think Tantrum is long enough to consider it a true huge attraction.
When I was in middle school, my mom and I would get season passes to Six Flags Great America every year. Since we didn’t have as much money back then we went as often as we could to really get our money’s worth. I think I can count the amount of times I rode Iron Wolf on one hand. Take from that what you will.
I am curious to know your opinion on American Scream Machine at SFOG. It always beats me up but I still always ride it when I am there despite the massive headache it induces lol.
Wait, Clementon Park is still open? Last I heard (cuz South Jersey news is basically nonexistent), it was shut down a few years ago & was sitting there waiting for a buyer. Did they reopen?
The new Restraints on the Big Apple Coaster make a difference. It goes from a very bad coaster to a slightly below average coaster. The transitions are still not good, but I felt the restraints did improve the comfort of riding it. It may still be the most over priced coaster in the USA.
I was lucky enough to be in Vegas a few days after it reopened with the new trains, but it was "closed for wind" ugh
When I went on it, I had a pretty good time. Granted, it was the first coaster I got on after covid.
@@AirtimeThrills Yeah when I went in April of this year it as closed for wind as well. I got a chance to ride it in late October.
They're definitely better, and as a reasonably tall person I didn't head bang on the new trains, but the forces are still there and some shorter people on my train did still complain about head banging against the collars.
As I was getting off I was thinking "yep, still the worst roller coaster I've ever ridden" 🤣
I rode that coaster when it was still pretty new. I was extremely drunk so I don't really know if it was terrible or not
The reason why Corkscrew still exists at Cedar Point is its history and nothing else. It's the 1st 3 inversion coaster in the world built in 1976 and had the 1st vertical loop by Arrow (that is if Great American Revolution wasn't opened 7 days prior to Corkscrew).
The corkscrews are also very iconic across midway
Wtf??? This isn't disney get it out of there or ship it off!!
There is no reason to remove Corkscrew, it's a soft coaster that seems to not require much maintenance due to the low speed and low forces. A retrack could be nice like a park did in Germany. I am not sure but I think Vekoma is still producing parts for it.
Mind blowing that Arrow was so up in the game compared to other factories.
It was so rough it knocked my hearing aid out of my ear! Luckily it got caught on my shirt.
@@EchoBrick if they got rid of it they would leave the corkscrews
Maybe you just don't like coasters that are a sort of in-between family coaster and regular coaster? I personally have a great appreciation for such 'transition' rides as they helped me make the jump to ride bigger and more intense coasters when I was young, and lead me to becoming more of an enthusiast. Honestly it's a shame there aren't very many rides like that.
Really? Because when I was a kid my dad threw me on king da ka
Depends on the height requirement. When I was a kid, I remember I got upset at Hershey park because I was not tall enough to ride Wildcat and Lightning Racer, assumed I could ride those since I could ride Comet and superduperlooper. But those other two had low enough requirements for height that I could ride them and experience my first inversion. That's really the main thing I think why those coasters are important.
@@NoLanConnection Huh, that's odd. Wildcat was actually my first coaster, I was about maybe 10 and very short. And Lightning Racer is one of the coasters I remember most fondly. I was too scared to ride coasters with inversions so I didn't go on superduperlooper. But once I rode corkscrew at cedar point I found that going upside down was fun and not scary! I guess the height thing probably has something to do with the height of the coasters and their restraints to be able to ride safely and not indicative of intensity.
I consider the purpose of a ride before judging it. Iron Dragon and Grizzly and Hurler and Timberhawk don't seem like they were meant to be family rides. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it and I judge it based on it trying to be a thrill ride
@@UnknownFlyingPancake Yes it is about restraints I think. I was 6 or 7 and almost the right height.
Iron Dragon is super lame in the sense of being a coaster, but it holds a spot in my heart for being my first. It's a shame there aren't more tame rollercoasters like Iron Dragon for people who are just getting into coasters and don't want to be thrust into the deep end right away.
I went on Velocicoaster a couple days ago for my first not realizing it had universal praise for being one of the best in the world. Feeling insanely lucky right now especially after watching this!!
It’s actually the best suspended coaster
Would it be cost effective to pay to have the B&M stand up coaster to be changed to sit down coasters?
Same, iron dragon may not be the best but it was my first non Disney or wild mouse coaster and what sent me on the road to getting over my fear
We never forget our firsts lol. I sure don't haha
Got to take issue with Iron Dragon being here. While it’s not categorized as a family coaster it really does act as one and is a perfect step up for kids who are outgrowing the kiddie coasters. It’s smooth and has a nice meandering setting. No, it’s not thrilling or forceful, but I have come to enjoy it as a little break from the big thrills of CP, especially on a hot summer day.
Can’t disagree with anything else here though…love the channel!
I agree with you. It actually was the first “real” coaster I rode as a kid and I thought the first drop was big. 😅
I agree with you. I expand on this in my comment above, but the Iron Dragon has a soft spot in my heart.
My six year old just ride iron dragon when got off "wow that was boing"
True. When we were kids Iron Dragon was my little sister’s first real coaster and she loved it. I remember complaining it was boring because I was older and the Magnum was around by then I think. But she loved it so much that I remember that fact to this day. My first coaster was the corkscrew and that was before even the Magnum was built. I loved it but my dad walked away with a migraine.
Only enjoyable time I ever had with Iron Dragon was with the VR headsets tbh. But I agree it is a good transitional coaster for kids.
This was a very good list, however Iron Dragon and Georgia Scorcher don’t deserve the hate.🤙🏽
I totally agree. I really enjoy Georgia Scorcher every time I ride it. I don't know why people hate it so much!
Iron dragon is the ideal coaster or go from family coaster to thrill coasters
Never ridden ID, but GS definitely doesn't deserve the hate.
neither does wave breaker idk why that one was even considered, its a great family ride but also thrilling
Scorcher is one of my favorites! Why would it be hated?
I found Iron Dragon to be a super enjoyable smooth ride, it’s over shadowed by the beasts of the park but I love it
Part of what I like about going to parks like Cedar Point, is that you can sort of ride a timeline of coasters. From the oldest woodies of the bunch like Blue Streak and Gemini, all the way up to the newest like Gatekeeper, Steel Vengeance, and Valravn. I remember when rides like Corkscrew, Iron Dragon, Magnum XL-200, Raptor, Mean Streak, and Millennium Force came out in their respective years. For each of their specific times, they were THE best, and blew your mind. Even with rides like Iron Dragon there, I can remember being the very first time I have ever been on or even seen a suspended roller coaster. I know space can be at a premium at parks, but to me it’s fun to go back on those rides, even if they don’t seem as thrilling today, and remember just how moms-blowing they were at the time. With some exceptions of those that weren’t good from the start. Like Disaster Transport at Cedar Point. LOL!
As much as I want grizzly to be RMC'd(it's in my home park) I feel like it makes a lot more sense to RMC Hurler(Carowinds) because Carowinds is more visited(I think)
An RMC'd Grizzly may bring more visitors to the park though.
@@markvolpe2305 What would RMC even be able to do with Grizzly's layout? lol
they already got twisted timbers tho
I love Grizzly as is.
@@a_randomguy6061 never doubt RMC
Iron Dragon is actually one of my favorite rides at the park because it isn't that intense. It's been a while since I went, but I rode it and while I may agree it's bit underwhelming I still thought it was fun and the latter half with the mist is enjoyable. I think there are a lot worse rides than it.
Ha!!! I checked back on rcdb, and apparently, Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster closed down before the pandemic even started. That's a bigger failure than Bat(Kings Island) or Windjammer(Knotts Berry Farm)
I know you're talking about the original bat, and I would have never came to Discovery Kingdom just to ride HQCC.
I have only ridden four of these: Iron Dragon, Corkscrew (CP), Big Apple, and Pegasus.
I only found Iron Dragon to be moderately boring, but the finale over the water and the swinging on the final brake run were the redeeming values for me. The OTSRs were more comfortable than I though.
On Corkscrew, I actually get a small pop of, if not some airtime on the airtime hill after the first drop. The loop is not bad at all, and if you really brave yourself and hold your head still while holding on tightly, you can almost avoid the head banging on the corkscrews entirely.
I only rode Big Apple once with the old trains. The ride was shaky, but tolerable for me. My only gripe was the hang time on the dive loop, as it put a lot of stress on my shoulders.
I agree with you on Pegasus though. The ride may be small for a wooden family coaster, but it has many flaws. The track work is poor, and that sharp turn on the final brake run really throws your body against the train harshly, which is surprising for a ride meant for children. I would not be surprised if the tore this down and replaced it with something more smooth and enjoyable.
Well Chris,
The pacing of #25 is why a lot of people call it "Iron Draggin". Ditto with the roughness of the Canada's Wonderland woodie being called "Spinebuster"
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Every time I'm in the wave pool or lazy river at CW, I just look up and say: "oh hey there goes the next people getting their spines crinkled!"
I've got to time warp last summer and we had a good time. I was expecting the worst but really me my friends who went with me considered it fun and snappy. We were all kinda small so I think it contributed to our experience a lot.
I know it’s just an honorable mention but Wave Breaker was so awesome for a family coaster, surprised u were disappointed
Goliath is also a stretch
Wave breaker is another one of those "is this supposed to be a family coaster?" Coasters
@@AirtimeThrills it litterly is a family coaster tho
Iron Dragon? I love that ride! I mean, it's definitely a family ride, but I really enjoy it still.
Corkscrew I'm 100% on board with
Agree. I still enjoy Iron Dragon on occasion. Corkscrew just hurts.
I hope to ride it in 2022
Roar should be much better next year because the park announced at an ACE Event that they're replacing all 8 layers of wood for the entire ride, and they're looking very seriously at putting steel track (probably titan track) in the high stress sections
Doesnt help the boring layout but won't kill my head anymore
Par for the course for SFA to waste a bunch of money fixing it this way, instead of just RMCing it.
@@annemitchell4822 they said they looked at layouts from rmc and wanted to go with that option, but six flags wouldn't give them the 10 million dollars
@@CoasterRoaster perfect, then I don’t have to give Six Flags my $400 to bring the family there. Did Six Flags forget how this business works? 😂
Never been to SFA, and I don't plan to go unless they get a major attraction or I'm in the area.
I like that this list doesn't have defunct coasters. If I made a list with defunct rides included, it would be completely different and my #2 would probably be #5 or 6.
Right when you mentioned "Coast Rider" my shins INSTANTLY stung. That ride is hell and every time I see a line for it, I question how people can ride it-
some people like pain?
I started writing this comment in my head about how we needed to talk about why CGA's Grizzly wasn't on this list, but you didn't let me down Chris. I feel like you haven't done justice to how bad the Grizzly is in the past, and we've had a couple of these comment section conversations about it before, so I'm stoked you've seen the light!
Never ridden CGA's, but KD's was the roughest coaster ever.
You have a knack for making lists entertaining.
That's good considering that's 75% of my channel
I agree! Great job.
Really glad Kong at Discovery Kingdom made the list. That ride hurts so much that I don’t know why anyone (including myself) would ride it.
I'm always shocked when nobody mentions Grizzly at King's Dominion. I may have just had a bad ride, but that thing ended my entire day at the park.
Its a polarizing ride. Some people love it others hate it. I ended up in the middle. Wasnt a great ride but i didnt hate it
Agreed, my last ride on it was awful and I will likely never ride it again. I got off of it thinking I rode Roar
It is one of my least favorite coaster, if I get the chance to get to go to KD again, I won't be riding Grizzly.
Back when it first opened it was great! Now it's so rough that you can't enjoy it at all, and they've built into the woods around it taking away that "chase through the forest" feel.
Another Wildcat is awful, the one at Lake Compounce. Rough, boring and a good candidate for the 2022 Edition !
Yeah that should have gotten a mention on my off the radar list. That was an oversight
@@AirtimeThrills the name Wildcat is altogether doomed. Is there even one Wildcat worth riding?!
The lake compounce Wildcat was terrible, then got retracked and new Millennium flyer trains, and ended up even worse somehow.
Compounce is my home park and I only ride Wildcat when I bring new people to the park with me. Seeing their reactions to just how bad it is is worth it.
I still dont understand how a coaster with the size and layout of the LC Wildcat can be so bad. And Boulder Dash is getting pretty bad too which is a shame.
Iron Dragon is not as bad as people make it out to be. If you go into it knowing it’s not an airtime machine or an intense ride, it’s a fun ride the whole family can enjoy. Of course, when it was built, it was probably labeled as a thrill machine, but coasters have changed over the years and this one fell into family coaster territory. However, for how old it is, the thing is smooth. Night rides in the front are always a great time too.
I'm not expecting it to be intense in 2022 when I go, now that you say it.
Man, I can’t believe Georgia Scorcher was even in the running, I love that ride.
same, its so fun that im wondering if he got a bad ride
Yes. Georgia Scorcher even sniffing this list is, in my opinion, pure insanity.
Edit he does not hate stand-ups and I agree on vortex, I disagree on scorcher but hey we all have opinions!
@@coasterland325 i dont hate standups, I'm actually a fan of riddler and i like green lantern more than most. Vortex sucks though and I just got nothing out of scorcher
Agreed. It's honestly one of the best rides in the park. How it got mentioned and how the Blue Hawk (former Ninja) didn't make this list is beyond me. It is the absolute roughest steel coaster I've ever ridden and it's honestly not a very fun ride IMO.
And the Georgia Cyclone is the last wooden coaster I ever road. Maybe it was the mistake of getting the very back sit but I have never had a coaster beat me to death like that last ride on the Cyclone did. Maybe it's better now that it's the Twisted Cyclone but I'll never know.
I gotta disagree with you on a couple of those rankings. I rode Iron Dragon front row when I went to Cedar Point this year, and it was actually really fun. You fly really close to trees and the water, and the unobstructed view makes it really fun. And I rode Hurler back row, and you get some pretty substantial ejector off the first drop and through those airtime hills after the first drop. I disliked Carolina Cyclone way more
12:43 LOL the camera shake shows how incredibly rough the coaster is.
Being from Michigan, about halfway between Michigan's Adventure and Cedar Point, I grew up assuming any roller coaster named "Corkscrew" was going to be a painful ride.
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On a wristband day, me and my daughter rode pirates hideaway at Casino pier about 15 times. It did hurt a little but the smile on her face made it one of my favorites. She's 4 and for her it was an amazing ride.
I'm glad you two had fun that day!
Thanks for this cool video ! Unpopular opinion : I absolutely love Monstre at LaRonde. Even though it's rough, I still find enough redeeming factor in this coaster to appreciate it. After that small first drop section, one track rises up into an airtime hill, before plunging straight into the structure, while the other track takes a curved drop followed by a bunny hill. These two moments took me off guard, and are among my favorite airtime moments ! Even after having ridden better, smoother and much more modern woodies, Monstre is still a personnal favorite, stacking against rides like Wodan or Shambhala. Despite a rather weak and bumpy layout full of old-fashioned helices, these two drops really make it worth the ride for me. Furthermore, being at LaRonde doesn't help its reputation.
The coasters I hate are the ones that are painful or the layout is just bad/delivers no good forces and airtime. My least favorite is T3 because of the leg smasher. They could have chose any one of the following names and it still would have worked:
Terrible 3, Torn down 3, Leg Crusher, Leg Smasher, Mind Eraser, Leg Destroyer, Thigh Crush, Terror 3(because it makes you have terror that you're about to get your leg amputated), Sucks Like Crap
I love iron dragon. It's the coaster I ride when I need a "break" it's in my top five. Not bc it's like top five in quality...it's top five in my heart
Same here, it’s a fan favorite amongst my family.
It was the coaster that got me into coasters as a kid in the late 90s
Any wooden coaster: *exists*
Everyone: RMC it
RMC the comment section
The Knott's boomerang was unbelivably painful. Your head went flying into the restraints the second it did pretty much near anything.
Viper:"Am I a joke to you"
@@isaacmadrigaljr3333 Flashback: Mic drop!
@@isaacmadrigaljr3333 Viper is an amazing ride wtf
@@triple7marc depending on your height the headbanging on viper is monstrous even for an arrow looper
@@saleplains I’m 6 feet tall and I absolutely love Viper. I just ride it with my neck outwards a bit.
11:38 the poor guy in row 3 has such a look of dissapointment 😂
Tbh, I could see Hellcat turning into one of those underrated gems because it is opening near year after a full retrack, and if I'm just looking at the layout, it looks great
At Clementon Park? They're retracking that?
The type of park to retrace with Kinex kits
@Coaster Deprived NW unfortunately schilke is a actually retired, Joe Draves is now the rmc designer
Six Flags America's new president said he does plan to RMC Roar, just not immediately. Got to clean up the park first.
Oh, man…I’m so torn about you putting Predator at 4. On one hand, Darien Lake is my home park, and I worked there for Fright Fest during college, so I have all the feels about it.
But on the other hand…you’re not wrong. It’s soooooooooooooooo rough. And I haven’t ridden it in probably 15 years. I can imagine it’s only gotten worse 😬😬
Wow it was that bad 15 years ago? Yikes
Predator used to be my favorite ride when it ran a lot smoother back in the early 2000s, but it is pretty much intolerable ever since, I would love to see it get some tlc. Darien Lake's Mind Eraser is also terrible and should torn down.
@@AirtimeThrills Yeah. It was at least tolerable, but I always remember it being jerky.
I rode Time Warp at CW and I think the plot of land it and the awful SLC, Flight Deck share would be perfect for a B&M Invert, Flyer, or Wing Coaster. They both caused head pain and I was legit scared for my life on Time Warp as I was riding with smaller children who were holding onto me so that they didn't get hurt. RMC Wilde Beast would be awesome but it would completely over populate the Mideval Faire area where Wilde Beast and Leaviathan sit. Hulk really hurt me and is high up on my list.
Nice list, here’s my thoughts on the ones from the list I’ve been one
Iron Dragon: I thought it was enjoyable. A little shaky, and pretty tame, but I like it’s setting and I see it as a family coaster
Hurler: Pretty average woodie from my experience. It was a little bumpy and I didn’t get any airtime, but it had some nice laterals
Tornado: Pretty much what you said. I really wanted to like this, since buzzbar woodies are kinda rare and I’m a fan of older wooden coasters, but it wasn’t great. I went back when Dragon was open and Tornado wasn’t much better
Corkscrew: Definitely an unpopular opinion, but I actually prefer this to Valravn right across the midway. I liked these classic arrows, and honestly I found it more intense than rough. That airtime hill is no joke
Vortex: It’s the only standup I’ve been on, but based on this I don’t like the concept. Just uncomfortable, but it’s one of B&Ms older models so it makes sense
T3: Rough, weird restraints that try to cut your legs off, but for some reason I had fun ridding it. It was my first SLC and I’d honestly take this over a boomerang any day, it has a pretty cool layout
Ninja: Really liked Ninja. I honestly don’t think it’s rough and it’s layout is so unique
Eh, haven’t ridden it in 20+ years, but I found the Hurler more enjoyable than Wildcat
Ninja nigga what magic mountain? Or a different ninja
I love Thunderhawk at Dorney! what's wrong with it?
Firebird is the smoothest coaster at six flags America. The only part that may be rough is the corkscrew.
After all it is the smoothest B&M in all of Maryland! Is it smoother than Superman though? I haven’t been to that park yet
@@joeygassmann5595 They are comparable, but Firebird has the advantage of being a lot slower and having brand-new trains.
Lmao the SLC was smoother and had less headbanging than Firebird. Worst ride in the park.
the fact they transfered green lantern to LaRonde, the nearest park I can go without changing province/country, hurts ngl
I actually kinda like Pegasus. I thought it was a fun little coaster- nothing amazing, and if you know to brace for the turn, not bad (so long as you know to brace for it).
Honestly kind of surprised not to see Kumba here. Tbh it either needs a retrack or to be thanked for its years of service and replaced, getting an outside seat on that feels like running an Oklahoma drill against Ray Lewis.
I rode Predator about 15 years ago, and it was AWFUL. I was in pain for a week. But I think they’ve done some track work, and I rode it this summer, and it wasn’t bad at all.
As for Hurler, I think it’s also had some track work. I’ve ridden it about a dozen times this year, and it’s not awful. I’ll say, I’d rather have a modern GCI like Mystic Timbers before they RMC it.
The Boss needs to be on this list. I don't understand rating boring coasters worse than painful ones. I havn't been on Roar since the early 2000's , people used to rave about that ride. I guess GCI woodies just haven't aged well.
The Boss is a difficult one... I need to ride it again. My 2 rides in 2018 weren't good but mainly because of the roughness. The ride itself is halfway decent.
I'm here to say that Hellcat is pretty solid. It's been a long time since I rode it, really looking forward to it reopening, also really looking forward to IB owning Clementon now. I drive by it pretty often and haven't seen any work being done on Hellcat at all, so hopefully it'll be open when the park opens (which in the past was Memorial Day weekend). I have seen them powerwashing the Ferris Wheel so I know that they're doing at least some maintenance stuff in the park.
I've never heard anything good about it. I've never ridden it.
5:47 low-key kinda sad cause Adventureland is my home park
well at least OutLaw didn't get on the list
I'll keep shouting into the void - I love Goliath!!!
I think I must really value smoothness more than others. I'm not saying it's perfect but it is a really fun ride. Fast, smooth and intense-as-hell helix to finish.
I can't disagree with any of your points about Goliath, but yeah it's all about what you value.
I'm with you! I was like how in the heck did Goliath almost make this list? I thought it was a great ride, for the reasons you mentioned.
I mean there are better rides for sure but Goliath is far from a bad ride
Tidal twister hot take- fanTASTIC ride. I got insane ejector every time I flew over the hill. I will never complain about going over an ejector hill 8 times in a row
My guess before watching: Manhattan express, the shin splitter aka coast rider at Knott’s, roar at SFA, wild cat at Hershey park, and a few others I can’t name off the top of my head.
Edit: ok definitely should have seen Tidal Twister, time warp, and t3 coming. I’m a SoCal native, an everyone knows how bad tidal twister looks, much less rides. Time warp looks painful to just watch, and T3 is so bad it’s turned into a meme, even from KK themselves.
Good guesses
I love iron dragon! Sure it’s garbage compared to things like Steve but it’s a fun ride to just chill, credit needs to go to this ride for that
To be completely honest, I don't hate Grizzly. Mild floater on the drop in the back and its really smooth. CGA puts a lot of work into it so that it isn't rough at all, and they market it as one of their family friendly coasters, between their wild mouse and Patriot(their B&M stand up/floorless conversion). Its not a coaster that I try to get a ride on every time I visit the park, but CGA definitely has a reason to keep it. However, it does take up a LOT of space, and I wouldn't mind if they RMC'd it or took it out in favor of a B&M hyper or an S&S air launch coaster :)
I haven't rode Grizzly in 27 years. It's a good family coaster or it was at the time.
NM. I thought we were talking about the one at Kings Dominion
Iron Dragon isn't even in my top 3 worst at Cedar Point. It doesn't deserve this. It's definitely a family coaster with a 46" height requirement.
I honestly think mighty Canadian minebuster isn’t that bad. Cw is my home park and if you don’t sit on a wheel seat it’s fine. It gave good airtime for me. When me and my friend went on wild beast for the first time on oct 31st it was bad Because of the roughness but we still had fun because it was hilarious. It was so funny we did a re ride and we don’t know why.
Maybe I have a soft spot for wooden coasters, but I rode Roar at six flags America and Hurler at Carowinds in early April 2022 and they weren't too bad. Shoot, Roar was the only coaster at the park I rode twice before riding the subway back into DC for the rest of the day
Thunder hawk is a solid ride and Roar is my favorite at America. I’m surprised it’s on this list because I always enjoy riding it and consider it a great layout
Dorney is my home park and I feel like Thunderhawk is VERY hit or miss. Lately it's been missing hard
I don’t see what’s wrong with slime streak and wavebreaker
"This ride is so disgustingly bad, I can't believe anyone rides it," I laughed so hard 😆🤣
Time warp when Paramount owned Canada's Wonderland was Tombraider lara croft themed ride when first launched.
Honestly time warp isn’t that bad as people say it is. Sure it’s not the best. But I would say that flight deck is way worse. It seemed to get smoother for some reason In 2021. My home park is Canadas wonderland.
was waiting to hear Time Warp from my home park on the list but didn't expect it to top the list LOL
Six Flags STL is my home park and was waiting for Ninja to show up. Did not disappoint... Like Ninja always does
That ending on Pegasus tho 😯😳😳 holy geez. Its like an L shape right into the brakes to a full stop lol.
As somebody who lives close to Cedar Point, the only ride I have any issues with being on this list is Iron Dragon.
I was terribly scared of roller coasters for the first 18 years of my life thanks to a ride on Space Mountain at Disney World at Age 3. For some reason the hanging coaster made me more comfortable, so I was able to get on the Iron Dragon. That made me feel I could tackle Raptor... from there I've been hooked on all coasters.
Short Anecdote. I was visiting some friends in Williamsburg, Virginia right before Big Bad Wolf closed. I had always wanted to ride it because of it's similarity to Iron Dragon. I've been told it was much better. I was in line for an hour waiting for a rainstorm stop so I could ride the thing. I left the park without riding it. Then it was gone. So disappointing.
So to make a long story short (too late), I will always love riding Iron Dragon.
When I was a kid, my first coaster was Comet at Hershey Park and I'm grateful for that! Not only has it aged well as coasters grow ever more intimidating, it has become my frame of reference for how a great coaster experience should ride, move and feel. It is astonishingly smooth while being exciting and visually stimulating. I've returned over the years many times after riding more high tech coasters - some terrific and some awful - yet I still feel like that elder 1946 woody should be considered a gold standard in how a coaster ride experience should feel from beginning to end. The Comet may now just be a humble little woody among coaster giants, but it still thrills generations of coaster lovers and creates many new coaster fans each year.
Minebuster at Canada’s Wonderland was one of my favourites for years. Rode it last month and it earns its nickname Spinebuster. The first half was rough but not that bad. The second half was almost unrideable. Unbelievably rough.
I think my problem with Iron Dragon is that, it does nothing. Now I do not like Rougaru, Corkscrew, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, etc. The thing is though, I know I don’t like them, because there’s specific things I don’t like about them that make me remember them. Iron Dragon doesn’t, it’s so boring that I can’t even think of why I dislike it exactly. It just does… nothing.
Is #7 the original Corkscrew from Knott's? It's historic if it is. It was terrifying when it opened as no one knew what to expect.
#2 There used to be one at the New Pike in Long Beach, CA (closed in 1979) it was fun as a kid. I miss it.
Nope the knotts corkscrew is at silverwood and its still a good ride
0:52 This is true, coasters like this are rough, but surprisingly I got a smooth ride, this is also the park I go to since it’s like 15 minutes away
Iron dragon is indeed a family coaster, and while I do agree that it’s boring, I’d say it’s an ok family coaster, July 9th 2023 I went and it pulled a 45 minute line so I don’t think it’s going anywhere
As a Torontonian, I feel represented by the garbage that is Time Warp (Laura Craft). Thank you lmao
Replace Iron Dragon with Rougarou, then it would be a nice list. In my opinion, Iron Dragon is a smooth ride and is a must ride for me despite the boring layout. At least it's better than going the forest to find the queue for The Bat at Kings Island (also a good coaster). Rougarou has a nice layout, but it's rough as all hell. I never rode it back when it was Mantis, but I don't imagine it being any better. I'm leaving Corkscrew alone as even though I enjoy it, I can definitely see why people hate it and consider it the laughing stock of Cedar Point.
You don’t like Goliath at magic mountain? Sure it’s outclassed in a park with so many better coasters, but if it was at a smaller park, it could be their best coaster. The first drop into a tunnel is so cool, and the helix makes me see just blue and orange sometimes
Surprised to see Hoosier Hurricane, that ride is sneaky good IMO
I thought so too in 2020. But 2021 yeeeshh
Hey airtime can you make another video about Goliath at six flags ne once they get more updates?
I've ridden Predator and Hades 360, both in 2021. Maybe I caught it on a bad day, but Hades 360 was far rougher. In fact, I would say it was the most painful ride I've ever been on. By far. Tried front and back. Both times, I felt like my insides were being shaken apart. Super jarring. Rode Predator three times, and besides one "pothole", it wasn't rough in comparison.
How did Adventure Express at King's Island not make this list? I visited the park for 6 days and one ride on that thing was enough for me. my back hurt for the rest of the day after that atrocity and then once I got on the beast it compressed my spine even more. but at least the beast has a fantastic night ride.
I mean number 4 is a little to low on the list considering it named after Cuomo I think it should be number 1
Ba dum chhhh
@@AirtimeThrills thx I never get hearts
I love T3 because it gets long lines and that means shorter lines for Lightening Run and Storm Chaser.
Please add Nighthawk at Carowinds and the god awful horrendous Great American Scream Machine at Six Flags over Georgia. They should be held in contempt! Lol.
Aww cmon, Iron Dragon is what made me wanna break my fear of roller coasters. Cut it some slack.
Ok I'll only rank it #25
@@AirtimeThrills Fine with me lol 👍
With Six Flags DL being my major home park im more than happy that Predator finally got titan tracked, but I still think the layout is a bit lackluster and would've faired better with the rmc treatment. Gives a nice 2 to the 1-2 punch of ROS and itself, as I just don't think Tantrum is long enough to consider it a true huge attraction.
Hey now, S&S gave us ONE good woodie, in Avalanche at the Wisconsin Dells. Too bad it's gone :C
When I was in middle school, my mom and I would get season passes to Six Flags Great America every year. Since we didn’t have as much money back then we went as often as we could to really get our money’s worth.
I think I can count the amount of times I rode Iron Wolf on one hand. Take from that what you will.
Wildcat is gone though! It’s going to be Wildcat’s Revenge.
I haven’t ridden Timberhawk but the way you feel about that is how I feel about Comet at Hershey Park
Iron Dragon?!?! That coaster was my favorite as a kid! It and the Gemini got me into coasters in the first place!
Amazing video man, I was wondering if I could use a short snippet of you talking about Vortex (with credit obviously) in one of my videos.
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Aww I love iron dragon for sentimental and nostalgic reasons. I know it’s boring, but at least it isn’t rough in my opinion
The footage of that last turn on Pegasus made my neck hurt just watching it... that just looks awful.
I really liked Iron Dragon #25 as a kid because it was tame enough for me to ride it, and I thought the seats were really cool.
It is strange the Cedar Point has Iron Dragon and Kings Island has The Bat. Having ridden both I would take The Bat any day.
I like a nice, gentle, "boring" roller coaster so that I can watch the scenery as I go by.
I actually hit my head on Pegasus after the final turn
Swiss Toboggan is the ultimate "do it for the credit" coaster on my list... By far my painful coaster I've been on. Chiropractor visits for days
I am curious to know your opinion on American Scream Machine at SFOG. It always beats me up but I still always ride it when I am there despite the massive headache it induces lol.
I think its a good ride underneath the unbearable roughness so i dont consider it a worst coaster
Wait, Clementon Park is still open? Last I heard (cuz South Jersey news is basically nonexistent), it was shut down a few years ago & was sitting there waiting for a buyer. Did they reopen?