Currently I have a MacBook Pro and an iPad mini. While I love and prefer the form factor on the mini, I would trade it in a heartbeat if my MacBook and iPad could be one device. Currently I have specific programs that aren’t available on iPad I need for my job and it’s not feasible for me to switch to iPad as my main device. If I could dual boot macOS on my iPad, I would buy the pro model
@@BosuDXSame. I am an iPad Mini 6 person. If they only support external display and stage manager… that would be an awesome start ! Yet they decided not to. And the device is capable of supporting it. Sad.
Can’t believe no one has done a video like this yet, it’s something I’ve thought of but haven’t tried because I don’t love the side car experience. This looks much better. Also can’t believe the pro iPads still aren’t PRO. There’s no way, it has to be coming. It just has to.
option to click launch pad then have iPadOS experience would be a game changer. MacOS for heavy productivity, then switch over to "tablet mode" for casual use like watching RUclips videos (because that's all the iPad is really good for compared to a full laptop)
The last bit that file management is why people are asking for Mac OS on the iPad and also instead of Apps driven thinking as we do on iPad, it should be files driven on iPad and we could just do with the iPad only setup as well… it is the multitasking (without stage manager or with stage manager I don’t care but without the limits and restrictions of stage manager) and a few more tweaks to make it more files driven than apps driven and nobody would ask for the Mac OS to be on the iPad. Worked for 2.5 years on my iPad and made an iPad only desk setup. I also have the m1 iPad Pro… I bought the Mac mini m2 recently and it blew my mind… I find organisation in clutter of files and apps that I open with one flick on the Magic Trackpad and I am in mission ctrl… however when I am on the iPad the focus driven workflow that it has to offer makes me feel at home as I had done it for 2.5 years. It makes me more productive in the work that I am doing… but I feel restricted coz of the above factors.
If you are at home, you can use a bluetooth mouse to connect to sidecar in clamshell mode but you have to use the bluetooth mouse or trackpad and bluetooth headphones. Set it to optimise for the iPad's screen. You'll have to go to the desktop first to activate sidecar (mirror iPad screen) and then close the lid, then click the mouse that is connected to the MacBook to wake it. It'll wake to the mac lock screen on your iPad. Every time you want to use sidecar in clamshell mode, you have to do this. The advantage is that it will fill the iPad's 4:3 aspect ratio and optimise for it.
the problem is no one is going to stop buying iPads... honestly i think Apple thinks that it will really effect sales but it would be very minimal in my opinion...
iPad sales would increase, and perhaps MacBook Pro sales would stay the same, but MacBook Air would crash so hard if they did this. MacBook Air costs more than an iPad Pro, and even with a price hike, or only the upper 1tb being able to have this, a touch MacBook is the endgame for any creative professional. That leaves a MacBook Pro for true heavy work, but an iPad could manage both iPad tasks, and MacBook tasks, leaving the MacBook Air in a small niche market. Even now it is in a position where older MacBooks or the MacBook Pro are better deals. In my opinion, if a 2 in 1 was made, it would come either as a MacBook Air killer (iPad Ultra you may name it), or as a new MacBook Air with no iPad related software, simply the touch functionality and maybe Apple Pencil, but at that point you’re sacrificing iPad Pro…either way, one of these has to go because the market already overlaps enough that a new product would just kill them both.
They want you to buy multiple devices. It makes them more money and makes you more likely to stay in the ecosystem. If the only devices you have are an iPhone and an iPad with MacOS, then that’s not making them that much money and if you ever decide to leave Apple, you only have 2 devices which need changing, which isn’t much. That compared to if you bought an iPhone, iPad, and MacBook. At that point you’ll probably buy AirPods or an Apple Watch or something as well. Now you’re deep into the ecosystem and bought several products. Apple doesn’t want the iPad to be too much like a computer. And they don’t want the MacBook to have a touch screen. It means people will buy just one instead of both. Not as good for getting people invested in the ecosystem.
@SamuelNam would you please tell me which virtual desktop software did you use for this setup please!!! Thank you so much for such a great video!!! No one else has made another video like this one! You could make a continuation video of this one by showing how you setup the virtual desktop software and explaining if you always leave your MacBook Pro on. Samuel, thank you so much and have a great rest of the day.
Great video, the only reason I love jailbreak nowadays is because I can fully run a virtualized MacOS environment on my iPad Pro M series and it runs pretty well. It has been a game changer for working on the go for me.
@@ekowatta8505always been curious about Dex. just saw the state of gaming on Android and 😮 the new chips are pretty crazy! This guy was playing full fledged games on emulated Windoze w a 8-9 hr battery life - puts handheld PCs to shame!
Regarding your sound issue, I’ve been doing this for a few years… jumpdesktop works great and I get audio. I can edit in FCP and everything, and as long as my internet connection is solid i get near flawless playback.
I really wish Apple will either allow MacOS to run natively on iPads or create a touch based version of MacOS. This is what I’m looking for now. The new Surface Pro from Microsoft is the first time I’ve contemplated in purchasing from them, except I prefer the Apple ecosystem. Love the intro btw and now I’m a new subscriber. 😅
iPadOS finally getting all the features you'd expect from a desktop OS is infinitely more likely than Apple putting MacOS on an iPad (and probably a better idea because touch and mouse have different needs)
I'm a long time windows user and you are literally blowing my mind right now and changing my opinion for all product. I might buy thapple if this feature comes irl especially the last sd card bit.
The surface pro already does the job for a tablet-laptop and does it better. People used to the apple ecosystem might prefer the ipad. As a long time windows user the surface pro should suit you.
Mac has a lot of hidden features that you might like. It works perfectly with your iPhone, iPad and AirPods. So if you have those, try Mac and you’ll not regret. But if you don’t have an iPhone or AirPods you can stick to windows cuz you’re used to it.
As a fellow dad and entrepreneur, I’m in love with this channel Quality production and well-scripted, plus he’s genuine, transparent, and funny. Easy sub. Wish I found this channel sooner 🤘😝
As someone who has only dipped their toes in Apple ecosystems through the years, this is THE issue for me. I would upgrade my 8th gen iPad for a new M iPad in a heartbeat if there was better file management, but I just won't give them more money until then.
that's the rub - his point that the iPad is the best tablet means it will continue to live in this alternative paradigm for as long as the market will bear. the second you allow macOS on the iPadPro, all the lines get blurred & developers no longer get to see what users experience purely in iPadOS and answer the question of "how do we move away from organizing data without files (aka Finder)?" Some genius will wake up w a light bulb one day! 💡
Both iPadOS and macOS are using the same base system files, all the iPad needs is the macOS user interface and the support for the apps. It would be a larger OS install, but wouldn’t need to be as big as running both on an iPad.
People never seem to discuss the two elephants in the room - battery life and security model. I suspect the battery life by transplanting macOS on iPad would be pretty bad - iPadOS and iOS is super aggressive on pausing/terminating apps, which is not how macOS manages the processes. 13-inch MacBook Air has a significantly bigger battery than the 13-inch iPad Pro, and for a good reason. I agree the Files app is in an abysmal state, and 'pro' apps on iPads aren't great, as well as how iPadOS doesn't let you manage long running task, but I suspect the solution isn't as simple as just transplanting macOS. There has been attempts to have 2-in-1 OS, like Windows 8. And when it comes to Windows 2-in-1 devices they aren't doing amazing, and previous attempt of Windows+Android 2-in1 was cludgy at best. Desktop and Tablet experience is hard to merge.
thank you. when (and if) Apple ever does this, they are going to do it right - they've never been in the business of providing a clunky user experience. iOS (and iPadOS) will always be the sandbox to "think different" as to how an OS operates & more fundamentally carry the inquiry of "what is a computer?" it'll happen but probably not in ways we think it will :)
The ability to have your primary Apple Home Server that you connect every thing too and only grab the local interface like the iPad glass screen to see and work on content means we are so much closer to Apple Home being a thing. This would also be nice so each person can have their own profile not that is the way it will be at first but maybe down the road we can boot multi profiles on family sharing devices! Thank you so much for this video and its concept!
Congratulations! You’ve just invented MacBook 12! I’m still using one for sole purpose - screen sharing into my more powerful macs. It’s lighter than iPad with keyboard and more convenient in many ways (Cmd - Tab is translated into target host)
This is the only ipad i would buy. The iPads crappy limited software turned me off as a buyer so I bought a Dell with windows, so it only hurt Mac's sales worse!
I’m an iPad pro M1 user and I only use my old iMac for Musescore. My perfect device wold be an ipad with both OS and choose which one depending on the use
Yes my brother, tell ‘em. I been using my iPad Pro for years. I use it more than my phone. I needed to use adobe’s apps and they either don’t work on iPad, or they are horrible and buggy. I’ve been waiting for the oled iPad for years, and I’m in love with the new iPad but I didn’t like that they didn’t improve the battery life. I have the m1 iPad Pro and as a heavy user, I have to charge it every 2-3 hours! It runs out of battery so quickly and it takes forever to charge. I was very close to getting the new surface pro, but I just couldn’t. So, I got a MacBook Pro with m3 pro chip this week, and the difference is very noticeable. It charges faster, lasts longer, can handle heavy tasks, apps work better, texting is easier, and the fact that I can move the cursor from the MacBook’s screen to the iPad, then drag and drop files between two different devices so seamlessly makes me glad that I didn’t switch to surface pro. That would’ve been a huge downgrade and a big risk for my data and privacy. Comparing Apple to Microsoft is like comparing Bentley to Honda. No matter how hard Honda tries to copy Bentley, it will never be close. The services, the quality, the design, the warranty, the innovation, the user-experience is just something else.
this is music to my ears! I gave into ordering a MBP this past week after using an iPadPro as my daily driver for 4 years. I can't wait to experience what sounds like Sidecar!
How’s Screens going? Just started looking into too since it looked clean and well made, minus the sound. Not sure why he didn’t mention what he’s using in the video, but could be Screens
I paid for the iPad Pro 13 inch M4 33.02 cm 2 TB maxed out with the Magic Keyboard. I have also the iPad Pro 2TB 2021. I am a power user. I will buy an IBM PC Compatible computer for my desktop computer and my iPad Pro 2TB for my mobile device. My iPhone 15 Max Pro and my other iPad Pro all work great together. Only reason to buy the PC is for games and programming but I can also just program from my iPad Pro. In fact I have put off buying the PC for now. And just use my iPad Pro 2TB M4. It is an awesome machine.
and hope u can keep putting the PC off! after such a mixed experience evaluating handheld gaming PCs, I jumped for a MBP (after 4 yrs iPadPro only!). The state of the Game Porting Toolkit, emulation, and Linux on Apple Silicon makes for a very interesting storm brewing & I'm crazy enough to go into the eye of the storm! ⛈️ lol
I believe he is using screens5 app . I currently have it and able to remote connect to my MacBook . I would love to see how he set it up to work outside of his WiFi and connect at the coffee shop.
Great video ! As a web developper, I have done something a bit like that. I bought a Raspberry Pi, installed raspOS server version on it and code-server, then on my iPad I simply connect to the raspberry with an SSH app and code with code-server on Safari 😁
The best video about the everyday use of the Apple Ecosystem… The moment you leave a desk the laptop is never used…i think “lap”top definition is now obsolete because of the “lap”pad Just put a Mac Mini on your desk and carry the 13” iPad with you all day. Can you tell me case you use on the 11” iPad with the Magic Keyboard? Also im trying to figure out which software you used for this. I didn’t notice when i watched the video the first time and now that i am thinking of doing the same im scrolling in your video to find it with no luck 😅 Thanks mate
oh man my back hurts, i doubled down on MacBook 12" retina or the iPad Mini 6 depending on what i'm doing. my huge heavy M1 MBA is basically my desktop computer and never leaves the house
funny u mention this - Ive been using my iPadPro as my daily driver for 4 years & gave in & ordered a M mini & switched it last minute to a MBP "just in case" - I couldn't hear the thought of my "desktop" being tethered!
@@TheRenegade... when I found someone selling a MBP 16GB/1TB for $10 more than the best I could find on the mini it was a no-brainer: better resale value w lots of freebies for 0.4 lbs: backlit keyboard w touch ID, trackpad, camera, retina display, speakers/mic, longlife battery, runs off USB-C PD (not AC), & still has active cooling. now the device can play "double duty" docked or travel (esp if i decide to leave the iPadPro home)
I think im going to go a mac mini so i can keep iOS development going and a surface or an iPad (depending on what they do with it) for on the go work, can always remote into the mac mini but the surface is right now a more practical device
I’d love MacOs on my M1 iPad Air! I love my iPad though, I don’t like many things from Apple but iPads are the best tablets and MacBooks are the best laptops, especially from longevity. I still have my late grandmothers 2010 i5 15inch MacBook Pro and it still works fine for normal internet usage and some other harder stuff, even some gaming. My MacBook Pro is a 2018 13 inch perfectly fine, doesn’t even feel old. In my reseller business I also used to sell a load of MacBooks and old MacBooks are still good! Sucks that a 2006 MacBook is more usable than my 2010 Mac Pro but apart from that Apple kills every other laptop, tablet manufacturer when it comes to longevity. Not gonna switch back to iPhone from my Galaxy Flip though, nor am I gonna switch from my home built gaming pc to an iMac or something either.
well said. I beat the hell out of my 2007 MacBook I bought in Thailand & it didn't die until 2020 which lo and behold is when I committed to go all in on iPadPro! not having to replace it meant some serious innovation could take place!
The first 45 seconds of this was enough for me to like this video, regardless of the other 12 minutes of it lol That heist scene was unnecessarily high effort and I enjoyed the f out of it
5:30 - how to set this up (briefly) I honestly was so irritated by the "stolen iPad with macOS" from the very start, but luckily there is an explanation
I agree. A top of the line iPad Pro or iPad ultra that dual boots/can switch easily is an amazing product proposal. Windows have some great hybrid devices but when it comes to tablets, the iPad is just the best. So to have the best or both the tablet and laptop functionality, yessss pleaaaaase
for whoever want to know, cast macos to ipad like the guy did. i tell you, you didn't want it. 1. latency. u might think that internet will solve the latency. it doesn't. 2. latency. 3. latency. 4. it's a macos. don't try to click or touch the icon. which u probably will cz you think that it's an ipad. 5. just get the surface pro 11.
Back when Parallels Access was a thing (before they killed a perfectly good product because they didn't want to develop it any more), I worked through my iPad to a shared Mac all the time, and got real work done. Keyboard worked fine, screen tapping for things I needed to click on. So it's possible and not even that hard. Now we need to find out what screen sharing program he was using. Jump Desktop is okay, but not as good as Parallels Access was.
watching videos, editing them, or playing games(playable if they don't require reaction) are probably no good, but typing isn't bad at all even if the connection isn't really strong, i.e. codes, documents, accessing files, etc. I used the Chrome remote desktop a couple times. The experience is not flawless but very usable, it definitely feels like typing on an old computer due to latency.
@@peterpayne2219you might have figured it out but he’s using Screen5. I used to use Parallels, also sad when they dumped it. Was going to try Jumpdesk but their website hasn’t been updated for years so not sure if I trust it. Let me know what you think of JumpDesk
Since the first big iPad Pro...all I have wanted was a base which was Mac and you docked the iPad for Screen and Camera. Pull them apart, iPad OS device and MacOS base which could be connected to any display with cable or wireless connection.
wow this is a really good idea 💡 I had a colleague let me borrow a broken screen MBP2015 & it either goes straight HDMI or to get rid of the double keyboard clumsiness, I just control the MBP desktop through Screens. (it didn't occur to me to do the same thing remotely like Andrew did!) I've been debating just tearing off the top lid on the MBP (it's useless outside of the camera which still doesn't get used) & your comment is neat because you're right, it would be neat to dock my iPadPro as the top lid!! I just ordered a new MBP & this whole time I've been debating if I'll be carrying both & if it were just the "base" and carrying a versatile "screen" this would be golden indeed!
What software you used for it? And how is the config to access external? You should do a video about it. I tried to find in youtube several and several times. No one have a video explaining this configuration.
I have been asking for the *option* to run mac OS on iPad for years, but especially since the iPad and MacBook hardware converged. There's absolutely no reason to not allow users to install or dual boot iPad OS and mac OS on the M series iPads.
I love the whole idea behind this video, but as I was watching, I kept wondering: what happened to that MacBook Air you previously fell in love with? Where does it fit in all of this?
@@thesamuelnam sorry I only got to reading your comment now. I feel a bit sad to read it.🥲 You really seemed to make great use of that MacBook for overseas work. Your "I travelled 9071km with Macbook Air M2 - Real use review" is still one of my favourite videos. Really inspiring how technology can enable you be portable to keep working everywhere, and also support a cause you care about while doing so. It's what nudged me to my own purchase of an M2 Air, even though I'm not really into Apple stuff in general. I believe it made my life easier and more productive.
Hear me out: You can run iPadOS and iOS apps and widgets on MacOS, right? Just let iPad Pro users RUN certain MacOS apps on their iPads! No need to make all-in-one OS for them (though that's be nice), just let us run big boys apps on our beutiful tablets! That's all that needed.
Yes, all you need is the apps, not the interface, and a proper files organizer. They could make a few Mac os settings run in a Pro iPad os skin. Cant forget side loading.
I have the macbook 12", a macbook pro 16" and a gen 4 iPad pro. And still, working on windows on my desktop is way less bureaucratic than dealing with the iPad os and macos bullshit. You want something to work? Just install it. No need for verification or handholding. The best feature I found so far for having both iPad and macbook is using the iPad as second screen. When I'm traveling this feature helps a lot. Although, is not worth the money you have to spend.
I *still* use the original app in my iPadPro four years later - best 20 bucks I've ever spent. but I get it, $20 isnt exactly going to keep the lights on & they still provide free tech support when i need it. but I made sure to give them my beef that I'm not going to switch if the app continues to support my current use cases. they need to help their current userbase understand what they can do newly otherwise it occurs as a money grab (which im sure isn't their intention at heart as they have a great app!)
MacOS on iPad would kill the Macbook sure, but it would also kill the entirety of Microsoft's Surface line, along with all the 2-in-1 ultrabooks from every other hardware manufacturer. I only use PC and I can recognize this
I've used the surface for 3 years. The interchangeability is fun for a month. After that the form factor is getting annoying. Apple is doing right for keeping their OS where it belongs. But I do think you should be allowed to install MacOS programs on iPadOS. There's no reason not to.
It should be for all ipads that, if you have a keyboard and mouse paired to it, it should auto Mac os (especially when external displays being used). Then when the mouse and keyboard are disc, it’s in iPad os or (touch mode).
whoever is buying the most expensive Ipads, is balls deep inside Apple Ecosystem and has a Macbook too. letting them have MACOS on the IPAD means lots of them won't bother buying the Macbook. Just have a subscription to use MACOS on ipad. $10 a month
The issue is just entirely the OS experience. Apple clearly wants to start with a tablet OS and add features over time, whereas with the Surface Microsoft just bolted a desktop OS to a touch screen. I hate using my Surface as a tablet since the UX is awful. I think Apple is 100% coming at things the correct way, it’s just that iPadOS will take time before it can hit feature parity with MacOS.
appreciate comments like this. I just spent 3 weeks w PC gaming handhelds & it's the same thing - they are jimmying Windows because they don't have any choice from a performance & 100% compatibility w existing games. but it results in a poor experience. ASUS didnt do a bad job w their overlay software, Lenovo was a total fail in my book, and Valve has the most professional console UI but has to turn to translation layers to run Windows titles & discovered I don't want to tinker when I play a game. Proton is nowhere near the seamlessness of Rosetta which is just magic! all that said, my patience did wear thin & ordered a MBP this past week after going iPadPro only for 4 years!
@@udance4ever Yeah, Valve is kind of trying to win an impossible battle when it comes to getting PC games to work well in a handheld. It's honestly incredible how great of an experience the Steam Deck is considering everything working against it. I love mine, but I also appreciate being given the keys to set my own framerate caps, graphics settings, and power targets. Luckily the Switch has a great library for anybody without much interest in that side of things.
10:50 my man admits he's milking the purchase 😂😂😂 this is the best channel subscription ive made so far 😂
What access software do you use
Take my money and give me ipad with MACOS
This is all the iPad needs
Apple: That's not eco-friendly sir
@@davidbrown3960It actually doesn’t lol If you need an iPad with MacOS, you don’t need an iPad: you need a MacBook.
He only accepts apple pay for a more greener experience 😊
@@ArcticPrimalthat's not in our company's interests sir
Love the dramatic intro, that is effort🤌🏽
Edit: Thanks for the 240 likes
Currently I have a MacBook Pro and an iPad mini. While I love and prefer the form factor on the mini, I would trade it in a heartbeat if my MacBook and iPad could be one device. Currently I have specific programs that aren’t available on iPad I need for my job and it’s not feasible for me to switch to iPad as my main device. If I could dual boot macOS on my iPad, I would buy the pro model
@@BosuDXSame. I am an iPad Mini 6 person. If they only support external display and stage manager… that would be an awesome start ! Yet they decided not to. And the device is capable of supporting it. Sad.
It’s 387 now
Can’t believe no one has done a video like this yet, it’s something I’ve thought of but haven’t tried because I don’t love the side car experience. This looks much better. Also can’t believe the pro iPads still aren’t PRO. There’s no way, it has to be coming. It just has to.
Since they have same chip as m Mac surprised that no one has figured out how do this themselves
@@NicVandEmZLocked bootloaders with a closed source OS mean no matter how much we might want to make it happen, it’s just not going to
i have done it many times. this is my left hand play. i use to change os or buff os on different devices.
@@foku486you should make a tutorial rather than just a comment
So is he using sidecar here?
option to click launch pad then have iPadOS experience would be a game changer. MacOS for heavy productivity, then switch over to "tablet mode" for casual use like watching RUclips videos (because that's all the iPad is really good for compared to a full laptop)
This is what I wish they would do.
This would instantly make the MacBook Air obsolete that's why they aren't doing it :/
Basictly Samsung Dex but Apple.
Apple would never, but the hope is someone hacking it 🙏🏽
Windows 8.1
The last bit that file management is why people are asking for Mac OS on the iPad and also instead of Apps driven thinking as we do on iPad, it should be files driven on iPad and we could just do with the iPad only setup as well… it is the multitasking (without stage manager or with stage manager I don’t care but without the limits and restrictions of stage manager) and a few more tweaks to make it more files driven than apps driven and nobody would ask for the Mac OS to be on the iPad. Worked for 2.5 years on my iPad and made an iPad only desk setup. I also have the m1 iPad Pro… I bought the Mac mini m2 recently and it blew my mind… I find organisation in clutter of files and apps that I open with one flick on the Magic Trackpad and I am in mission ctrl… however when I am on the iPad the focus driven workflow that it has to offer makes me feel at home as I had done it for 2.5 years. It makes me more productive in the work that I am doing… but I feel restricted coz of the above factors.
that is why I love my jailbroken iPad Pro M series. I have a full fledge, root-access file system that is 100x better than the "Files" app.
@@cheese22 how do u jailbreak 18.1 betas?
If you are at home, you can use a bluetooth mouse to connect to sidecar in clamshell mode but you have to use the bluetooth mouse or trackpad and bluetooth headphones. Set it to optimise for the iPad's screen. You'll have to go to the desktop first to activate sidecar (mirror iPad screen) and then close the lid, then click the mouse that is connected to the MacBook to wake it. It'll wake to the mac lock screen on your iPad. Every time you want to use sidecar in clamshell mode, you have to do this. The advantage is that it will fill the iPad's 4:3 aspect ratio and optimise for it.
steve with the FOLD is hilarious... haha
the problem is no one is going to stop buying iPads... honestly i think Apple thinks that it will really effect sales but it would be very minimal in my opinion...
They are afraid that people will stop buying macs
iPad sales would increase, and perhaps MacBook Pro sales would stay the same, but MacBook Air would crash so hard if they did this. MacBook Air costs more than an iPad Pro, and even with a price hike, or only the upper 1tb being able to have this, a touch MacBook is the endgame for any creative professional. That leaves a MacBook Pro for true heavy work, but an iPad could manage both iPad tasks, and MacBook tasks, leaving the MacBook Air in a small niche market. Even now it is in a position where older MacBooks or the MacBook Pro are better deals.
In my opinion, if a 2 in 1 was made, it would come either as a MacBook Air killer (iPad Ultra you may name it), or as a new MacBook Air with no iPad related software, simply the touch functionality and maybe Apple Pencil, but at that point you’re sacrificing iPad Pro…either way, one of these has to go because the market already overlaps enough that a new product would just kill them both.
@@joseantonio6637 MacBook Pro would stay the same mostly because it has active cooling. The air is basically dead though.
They want you to buy multiple devices. It makes them more money and makes you more likely to stay in the ecosystem. If the only devices you have are an iPhone and an iPad with MacOS, then that’s not making them that much money and if you ever decide to leave Apple, you only have 2 devices which need changing, which isn’t much. That compared to if you bought an iPhone, iPad, and MacBook. At that point you’ll probably buy AirPods or an Apple Watch or something as well. Now you’re deep into the ecosystem and bought several products.
Apple doesn’t want the iPad to be too much like a computer. And they don’t want the MacBook to have a touch screen. It means people will buy just one instead of both. Not as good for getting people invested in the ecosystem.
@@joseantonio6637that’s bc Apple is scared of the innovation that got them to where there are in the first place over coin now.
cinematic intro love it
Beginning was top tier😂
I have almost every Apple product till this day, but I bought a Surface Pro 11 last week. It is fantastic.
I wish i can like this a thousand times… surface pro is a killer , imagine if apple got that hardware first 😂😂
Surface Pro was difficult to hold as an actual laptop, requires a 2-hand carry when open.
Me too. I wish ipad runs mac os
@@mikecleveland7453then your weak
@SamuelNam would you please tell me which virtual desktop software did you use for this setup please!!!
Thank you so much for such a great video!!!
No one else has made another video like this one! You could make a continuation video of this one by showing how you setup the virtual desktop software and explaining if you always leave your MacBook Pro on.
Samuel, thank you so much and have a great rest of the day.
Brother’s intro is getting better and better and better and better hats off to you keep it up
Great video, the only reason I love jailbreak nowadays is because I can fully run a virtualized MacOS environment on my iPad Pro M series and it runs pretty well. It has been a game changer for working on the go for me.
Although I switched from the Apple ecosystem to Samsung ecosystem, you are still one of my favorite tech RUclipsrs to watch. Also tech with benefits
I did the reverse went from Samsung to Apple and oh I miss android 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Samsungs gonna collapse before Apple does . You’d switch back sooner or later 😂
we are all in the google ecosystem
@@ekowatta8505always been curious about Dex. just saw the state of gaming on Android and 😮 the new chips are pretty crazy! This guy was playing full fledged games on emulated Windoze w a 8-9 hr battery life - puts handheld PCs to shame!
Regarding your sound issue, I’ve been doing this for a few years… jumpdesktop works great and I get audio. I can edit in FCP and everything, and as long as my internet connection is solid i get near flawless playback.
I really wish Apple will either allow MacOS to run natively on iPads or create a touch based version of MacOS. This is what I’m looking for now. The new Surface Pro from Microsoft is the first time I’ve contemplated in purchasing from them, except I prefer the Apple ecosystem.
Love the intro btw and now I’m a new subscriber. 😅
they wont do that since it’ll cannibalize their mac sales and that’s a no no. in reality, they want you to have both
@@baoboba Yeah I know they won’t, they don’t want to loose profit. Maybe one day.
iPadOS finally getting all the features you'd expect from a desktop OS is infinitely more likely than Apple putting MacOS on an iPad (and probably a better idea because touch and mouse have different needs)
I'm a long time windows user and you are literally blowing my mind right now and changing my opinion for all product. I might buy thapple if this feature comes irl especially the last sd card bit.
The surface pro already does the job for a tablet-laptop and does it better. People used to the apple ecosystem might prefer the ipad. As a long time windows user the surface pro should suit you.
@@firestormjupiter👍🏽
Mac has a lot of hidden features that you might like. It works perfectly with your iPhone, iPad and AirPods. So if you have those, try Mac and you’ll not regret. But if you don’t have an iPhone or AirPods you can stick to windows cuz you’re used to it.
@@firestormjupiter Problem with the SP11 is that it can’t be used in your lap
Can you please make a video showing how you created this set up... PLEASE?
Jump Desktop is a great alternative
Seconded
@@NicholastheStoic I thought you can't use the ipad keyboard and trackpad if you do that though?
@@Amateurprotographer Did that for years to remote my PC anywhere with cellular iPad. Was so good.
He literally tells you how he did it in the video.
As a fellow dad and entrepreneur, I’m in love with this channel
Quality production and well-scripted, plus he’s genuine, transparent, and funny.
Easy sub. Wish I found this channel sooner 🤘😝
I'm so with you on that last point. We need better file management on IOS and iPad OS. The current files app feels so limited.
As someone who has only dipped their toes in Apple ecosystems through the years, this is THE issue for me. I would upgrade my 8th gen iPad for a new M iPad in a heartbeat if there was better file management, but I just won't give them more money until then.
that's the rub - his point that the iPad is the best tablet means it will continue to live in this alternative paradigm for as long as the market will bear. the second you allow macOS on the iPadPro, all the lines get blurred & developers no longer get to see what users experience purely in iPadOS and answer the question of "how do we move away from organizing data without files (aka Finder)?" Some genius will wake up w a light bulb one day! 💡
Both iPadOS and macOS are using the same base system files, all the iPad needs is the macOS user interface and the support for the apps. It would be a larger OS install, but wouldn’t need to be as big as running both on an iPad.
People never seem to discuss the two elephants in the room - battery life and security model.
I suspect the battery life by transplanting macOS on iPad would be pretty bad - iPadOS and iOS is super aggressive on pausing/terminating apps, which is not how macOS manages the processes. 13-inch MacBook Air has a significantly bigger battery than the 13-inch iPad Pro, and for a good reason.
I agree the Files app is in an abysmal state, and 'pro' apps on iPads aren't great, as well as how iPadOS doesn't let you manage long running task, but I suspect the solution isn't as simple as just transplanting macOS.
There has been attempts to have 2-in-1 OS, like Windows 8. And when it comes to Windows 2-in-1 devices they aren't doing amazing, and previous attempt of Windows+Android 2-in1 was cludgy at best. Desktop and Tablet experience is hard to merge.
thank you. when (and if) Apple ever does this, they are going to do it right - they've never been in the business of providing a clunky user experience.
iOS (and iPadOS) will always be the sandbox to "think different" as to how an OS operates & more fundamentally carry the inquiry of "what is a computer?"
it'll happen but probably not in ways we think it will :)
The ability to have your primary Apple Home Server that you connect every thing too and only grab the local interface like the iPad glass screen to see and work on content means we are so much closer to Apple Home being a thing. This would also be nice so each person can have their own profile not that is the way it will be at first but maybe down the road we can boot multi profiles on family sharing devices! Thank you so much for this video and its concept!
I really like your sense of humour! It's brilliant!
Congratulations! You’ve just invented MacBook 12! I’m still using one for sole purpose - screen sharing into my more powerful macs. It’s lighter than iPad with keyboard and more convenient in many ways (Cmd - Tab is translated into target host)
Steve should have put macOS onto his Zfold also
This is the only ipad i would buy. The iPads crappy limited software turned me off as a buyer so I bought a Dell with windows, so it only hurt Mac's sales worse!
Bro, your videos are awesome, greetings from Turkey
I love using DEX for remote desktop. Or anything lower powered to remote into a more powerful machine
Correct me if I'm wrong .... but this is basically a "remote desktop" to your Macbook using an iPad .... right ?
Yes
I’m an iPad pro M1 user and I only use my old iMac for Musescore. My perfect device wold be an ipad with both OS and choose which one depending on the use
This is an awesome video, thanks for putting it together. This has been a dream for me since I first started using my iPad years ago!
lol same here & after 4 years w my iPadPro, I threw in the flag & ordered a MacBookPro 😅
Windows Surface is a strong contender, have had the same iPad Pro since 2018 and I see no reason to change it. M4 why? Totally agree.
What app are you using for the Remote Desktop to the MacBook? I hear good things about Jump, but is there a better option?
It’s not jump. You can’t close the lid.
I am using Parsec and it's been great so far and free with audio, his Screens 5 remote app can't hear audio.
@@yinyang9109 how can you use parsec on you ipad?
Yes my brother, tell ‘em. I been using my iPad Pro for years. I use it more than my phone. I needed to use adobe’s apps and they either don’t work on iPad, or they are horrible and buggy. I’ve been waiting for the oled iPad for years, and I’m in love with the new iPad but I didn’t like that they didn’t improve the battery life. I have the m1 iPad Pro and as a heavy user, I have to charge it every 2-3 hours! It runs out of battery so quickly and it takes forever to charge. I was very close to getting the new surface pro, but I just couldn’t.
So, I got a MacBook Pro with m3 pro chip this week, and the difference is very noticeable. It charges faster, lasts longer, can handle heavy tasks, apps work better, texting is easier, and the fact that I can move the cursor from the MacBook’s screen to the iPad, then drag and drop files between two different devices so seamlessly makes me glad that I didn’t switch to surface pro. That would’ve been a huge downgrade and a big risk for my data and privacy.
Comparing Apple to Microsoft is like comparing Bentley to Honda. No matter how hard Honda tries to copy Bentley, it will never be close.
The services, the quality, the design, the warranty, the innovation, the user-experience is just something else.
this is music to my ears! I gave into ordering a MBP this past week after using an iPadPro as my daily driver for 4 years. I can't wait to experience what sounds like Sidecar!
I wasn't even that interested in the video but you have gained my like just through the intro alone, amazing stuff haha
Splashtop Remote desktop allows sound to be passed through to iOS. Great video! I'm trying out Screens -- but may experiment with Splashtop next.
How’s Screens going? Just started looking into too since it looked clean and well made, minus the sound. Not sure why he didn’t mention what he’s using in the video, but could be Screens
I love the way you are getting bigger and bigger, being able to pull this off. Nice one.
Totally agree about finder getting on the iPad. I would be so happy to have a better file system. this should be the first thing they do!
Honestly I don’t need MacOS on my iPad Pro. What I need is a cursor that is an arrow and a real finder app for the iPad and I would be happy to
And more app optimisation for tablets
Good god yes
Man, I say it once again. You are MY FAVOURITE TECH GUY! How much effort you put into quality of your videos is awesome
spoke for close to billion people you know! Thanks!
I paid for the iPad Pro 13 inch M4 33.02 cm 2 TB maxed out with the Magic Keyboard. I have also the iPad Pro 2TB 2021. I am a power user. I will buy an IBM PC Compatible computer for my desktop computer and my iPad Pro 2TB for my mobile device. My iPhone 15 Max Pro and my other iPad Pro all work great together. Only reason to buy the PC is for games and programming but I can also just program from my iPad Pro. In fact I have put off buying the PC for now. And just use my iPad Pro 2TB M4. It is an awesome machine.
and hope u can keep putting the PC off! after such a mixed experience evaluating handheld gaming PCs, I jumped for a MBP (after 4 yrs iPadPro only!). The state of the Game Porting Toolkit, emulation, and Linux on Apple Silicon makes for a very interesting storm brewing & I'm crazy enough to go into the eye of the storm! ⛈️ lol
Please make a video on how you did this!
I believe he is using screens5 app . I currently have it and able to remote connect to my MacBook . I would love to see how he set it up to work outside of his WiFi and connect at the coffee shop.
5:40 He’s running MacOS on a MacBook at home and using a Remote Desktop app.
He said he took a MacBook Pro to the coffee shop with the iPad, so I assume he mirrored the display
Hi which Remote Desktop app did you use?
Would like to know what desktop app he used
Great video ! As a web developper, I have done something a bit like that.
I bought a Raspberry Pi, installed raspOS server version on it and code-server, then on my iPad I simply connect to the raspberry with an SSH app and code with code-server on Safari 😁
there was a RUclipsr who showed his pi being powered & networked over USB-C - do you do this too?!
@@udance4ever I don’t do it to avoid draining the iPad battery and because I only work with it at home but yes you can do it like that too 😁
Your videos are super entertaining while still being informative. Bravo sir.🎉
The best video about the everyday use of the Apple Ecosystem…
The moment you leave a desk the laptop is never used…i think “lap”top definition is now obsolete because of the “lap”pad
Just put a Mac Mini on your desk and carry the 13” iPad with you all day.
Can you tell me case you use on the 11” iPad with the Magic Keyboard?
Also im trying to figure out which software you used for this. I didn’t notice when i watched the video the first time and now that i am thinking of doing the same im scrolling in your video to find it with no luck 😅
Thanks mate
That was a professional steal. Love your Videos♥
It’s hard to understand, but that is how innovation works. It’s is own thing, that is why it works
Hey Sam, Say hi to Steve for us we miss this guy 💯
You are my new favorite tech youtuber ❤
oh man my back hurts, i doubled down on MacBook 12" retina or the iPad Mini 6 depending on what i'm doing. my huge heavy M1 MBA is basically my desktop computer and never leaves the house
funny u mention this - Ive been using my iPadPro as my daily driver for 4 years & gave in & ordered a M mini & switched it last minute to a MBP "just in case" - I couldn't hear the thought of my "desktop" being tethered!
Why not just use a Mac Mini or iMac at that point
@@TheRenegade... when I found someone selling a MBP 16GB/1TB for $10 more than the best I could find on the mini it was a no-brainer: better resale value w lots of freebies for 0.4 lbs: backlit keyboard w touch ID, trackpad, camera, retina display, speakers/mic, longlife battery, runs off USB-C PD (not AC), & still has active cooling. now the device can play "double duty" docked or travel (esp if i decide to leave the iPadPro home)
my favorite tech channel 💚
This is one of the best videos I've seen in a while 🤣
I think im going to go a mac mini so i can keep iOS development going and a surface or an iPad (depending on what they do with it) for on the go work, can always remote into the mac mini but the surface is right now a more practical device
that guy could actually play Steve Jobs
Well, he would have to drop a few pounds.
I’d love MacOs on my M1 iPad Air! I love my iPad though, I don’t like many things from Apple but iPads are the best tablets and MacBooks are the best laptops, especially from longevity.
I still have my late grandmothers 2010 i5 15inch MacBook Pro and it still works fine for normal internet usage and some other harder stuff, even some gaming. My MacBook Pro is a 2018 13 inch perfectly fine, doesn’t even feel old. In my reseller business I also used to sell a load of MacBooks and old MacBooks are still good! Sucks that a 2006 MacBook is more usable than my 2010 Mac Pro but apart from that Apple kills every other laptop, tablet manufacturer when it comes to longevity. Not gonna switch back to iPhone from my Galaxy Flip though, nor am I gonna switch from my home built gaming pc to an iMac or something either.
well said. I beat the hell out of my 2007 MacBook I bought in Thailand & it didn't die until 2020 which lo and behold is when I committed to go all in on iPadPro! not having to replace it meant some serious innovation could take place!
would love to have macOS on the ipad, but until then I also connect it to my powerful pc remotely when im out of the house
The first 45 seconds of this was enough for me to like this video, regardless of the other 12 minutes of it lol
That heist scene was unnecessarily high effort and I enjoyed the f out of it
5:30 - how to set this up (briefly)
I honestly was so irritated by the "stolen iPad with macOS" from the very start, but luckily there is an explanation
I agree. A top of the line iPad Pro or iPad ultra that dual boots/can switch easily is an amazing product proposal. Windows have some great hybrid devices but when it comes to tablets, the iPad is just the best. So to have the best or both the tablet and laptop functionality, yessss pleaaaaase
Use Chrome remote desktop and you can access it at home, and have sound. I use it for several machines from my iPad Pro.
for whoever want to know, cast macos to ipad like the guy did. i tell you, you didn't want it.
1. latency. u might think that internet will solve the latency. it doesn't.
2. latency.
3. latency.
4. it's a macos. don't try to click or touch the icon. which u probably will cz you think that it's an ipad.
5. just get the surface pro 11.
Back when Parallels Access was a thing (before they killed a perfectly good product because they didn't want to develop it any more), I worked through my iPad to a shared Mac all the time, and got real work done. Keyboard worked fine, screen tapping for things I needed to click on. So it's possible and not even that hard. Now we need to find out what screen sharing program he was using. Jump Desktop is okay, but not as good as Parallels Access was.
watching videos, editing them, or playing games(playable if they don't require reaction) are probably no good, but typing isn't bad at all even if the connection isn't really strong, i.e. codes, documents, accessing files, etc. I used the Chrome remote desktop a couple times. The experience is not flawless but very usable, it definitely feels like typing on an old computer due to latency.
@@peterpayne2219you might have figured it out but he’s using Screen5. I used to use Parallels, also sad when they dumped it. Was going to try Jumpdesk but their website hasn’t been updated for years so not sure if I trust it. Let me know what you think of JumpDesk
Since the first big iPad Pro...all I have wanted was a base which was Mac and you docked the iPad for Screen and Camera. Pull them apart, iPad OS device and MacOS base which could be connected to any display with cable or wireless connection.
wow this is a really good idea 💡 I had a colleague let me borrow a broken screen MBP2015 & it either goes straight HDMI or to get rid of the double keyboard clumsiness, I just control the MBP desktop through Screens. (it didn't occur to me to do the same thing remotely like Andrew did!)
I've been debating just tearing off the top lid on the MBP (it's useless outside of the camera which still doesn't get used) & your comment is neat because you're right, it would be neat to dock my iPadPro as the top lid!!
I just ordered a new MBP & this whole time I've been debating if I'll be carrying both & if it were just the "base" and carrying a versatile "screen" this would be golden indeed!
Just think about the gaming possibilities. World of warcraft on a tablet anyone?
I like your video, but I downvote for not mention which app you use
What software you used for it? And how is the config to access external? You should do a video about it. I tried to find in youtube several and several times. No one have a video explaining this configuration.
It’s not Chrome Remote Desktop, right?
Awesome video, please how did you setup the virtual desktop
Guys, that looks like screens 5 logo at 5:57 but we wait for Samuel's response
@@Erinle_createswhat’s screen 5
I have been asking for the *option* to run mac OS on iPad for years, but especially since the iPad and MacBook hardware converged. There's absolutely no reason to not allow users to install or dual boot iPad OS and mac OS on the M series iPads.
Including the bit at ~8:10 is very genuine and comes across to the consumer very well, nice
Bravo! Great video is like watching a sitcom 😄
I love the whole idea behind this video, but as I was watching, I kept wondering: what happened to that MacBook Air you previously fell in love with? Where does it fit in all of this?
I ended up selling it since we needed cash to keep producing these videos and it was a luxury to have two macos devices.
@@thesamuelnam wow thats sad
@@thesamuelnam sorry I only got to reading your comment now. I feel a bit sad to read it.🥲 You really seemed to make great use of that MacBook for overseas work. Your "I travelled 9071km with Macbook Air M2 - Real use review" is still one of my favourite videos. Really inspiring how technology can enable you be portable to keep working everywhere, and also support a cause you care about while doing so. It's what nudged me to my own purchase of an M2 Air, even though I'm not really into Apple stuff in general. I believe it made my life easier and more productive.
Hear me out:
You can run iPadOS and iOS apps and widgets on MacOS, right? Just let iPad Pro users RUN certain MacOS apps on their iPads! No need to make all-in-one OS for them (though that's be nice), just let us run big boys apps on our beutiful tablets! That's all that needed.
This is the solution we need!
Yes, all you need is the apps, not the interface, and a proper files organizer. They could make a few Mac os settings run in a Pro iPad os skin. Cant forget side loading.
@@MikeHightower1 multiple virtual workspaces too
Exactly all iPadOS is missing is Xcode nothing else
Also I don’t see why IPad can’t get m4 ultra
I have the macbook 12", a macbook pro 16" and a gen 4 iPad pro. And still, working on windows on my desktop is way less bureaucratic than dealing with the iPad os and macos bullshit. You want something to work? Just install it. No need for verification or handholding. The best feature I found so far for having both iPad and macbook is using the iPad as second screen. When I'm traveling this feature helps a lot. Although, is not worth the money you have to spend.
Bro, never mind the iPad, your steering wheel is on the wrong side!
J/K. Interesting video. Wait until you hear about headless MacBooks.
Another great work from Sam. Love it since the first second. Keep rockin brah!
"Apple, stop being a dick!"
Thanks for the great laugh! Thoroughly enjoyable and on point.
Did I miss what Remote Desktop software you are using?
Edovia Screens 5
@@DoctorAtomTNT oh yeah thanks. Used to love that app until it went subscription.
I *still* use the original app in my iPadPro four years later - best 20 bucks I've ever spent. but I get it, $20 isnt exactly going to keep the lights on & they still provide free tech support when i need it. but I made sure to give them my beef that I'm not going to switch if the app continues to support my current use cases. they need to help their current userbase understand what they can do newly otherwise it occurs as a money grab (which im sure isn't their intention at heart as they have a great app!)
Thie video is awesome! Amazing edit.
Also it reminded me how badly I want Samsung Galaxy Phones to run iOS! 😅
What software are you using to remote desktop connect to it?
“Screens 5”. Although there are other options too.
M4 mini and USB cable… to iPad. Works like a charm. Both OS using an app on the iPad
Intro is hilarious😂, really good👍🏻
Great video! Btw, i use Windows and Linux Desktop on my iPad on the go. ;) RDP and Twingate do the magic. But you gave me another idea. 💡
oh do tell!
@@udance4ever well i could do the same with MacOS, but there seem to be only a commercial rdp solution yet. But maybe rdp is not the only option.
@@Life_is_a_beach_4042 I believe Screens 5 supports RDP (I have the older version)
MacOS on iPad would kill the Macbook sure, but it would also kill the entirety of Microsoft's Surface line, along with all the 2-in-1 ultrabooks from every other hardware manufacturer. I only use PC and I can recognize this
Brilliant video. That's the dream I am chasing. To have a full OS on an ipad or an android tablet running Linux.
babe wake up!! a new sam video just dropped
With Citrix my iPad Air becomes a Windows CAD Workstation. Love it
0:14 Steve Works
I've used the surface for 3 years. The interchangeability is fun for a month. After that the form factor is getting annoying. Apple is doing right for keeping their OS where it belongs. But I do think you should be allowed to install MacOS programs on iPadOS. There's no reason not to.
It should be for all ipads that, if you have a keyboard and mouse paired to it, it should auto Mac os (especially when external displays being used). Then when the mouse and keyboard are disc, it’s in iPad os or (touch mode).
whoever is buying the most expensive Ipads, is balls deep inside Apple Ecosystem and has a Macbook too. letting them have MACOS on the IPAD means lots of them won't bother buying the Macbook.
Just have a subscription to use MACOS on ipad. $10 a month
The issue is just entirely the OS experience.
Apple clearly wants to start with a tablet OS and add features over time, whereas with the Surface Microsoft just bolted a desktop OS to a touch screen. I hate using my Surface as a tablet since the UX is awful.
I think Apple is 100% coming at things the correct way, it’s just that iPadOS will take time before it can hit feature parity with MacOS.
appreciate comments like this.
I just spent 3 weeks w PC gaming handhelds & it's the same thing - they are jimmying Windows because they don't have any choice from a performance & 100% compatibility w existing games. but it results in a poor experience. ASUS didnt do a bad job w their overlay software, Lenovo was a total fail in my book, and Valve has the most professional console UI but has to turn to translation layers to run Windows titles & discovered I don't want to tinker when I play a game. Proton is nowhere near the seamlessness of Rosetta which is just magic!
all that said, my patience did wear thin & ordered a MBP this past week after going iPadPro only for 4 years!
@@udance4ever Yeah, Valve is kind of trying to win an impossible battle when it comes to getting PC games to work well in a handheld. It's honestly incredible how great of an experience the Steam Deck is considering everything working against it. I love mine, but I also appreciate being given the keys to set my own framerate caps, graphics settings, and power targets. Luckily the Switch has a great library for anybody without much interest in that side of things.
How do you get this to work?
remote desktop and a good internet connection
@@SaHaRaSquadYes, but which Remote Desktop product? Screens, Jump Desktop, Splashtop, other?? Inquiring minds want to know.
Your family intro was the cutest thing ever 🌞
iPad with 1tb or more storage iPads should be allowed to have macos
Can you make a video of how you created the virtual desktop for this?!
Yes.
Ideally you can start owning a mac mini or studio, and use the iPad for work being done on it? This is incredible! Great video.
Man, you videos are getting so amazing. Hysterical.