Just got this to replace the ATEM Mini Pro that’s only 3 years old. It just can’t keep up with the changing needs. Very impressed with the features in this little thing at the cost that can only be found in the Extreme with the ATEM.
It looks like some factory far far away making ATEM mini's is taking the left over parts, and making their own. Those buttons look like they are the exact same shape and size as the mini. I love it.
haha I like that theory but I doubt it is true. Blackmagic has their own factories and are very tightly controlled, and are not in China. These are just very easy cheap buttons to make.
So that means, it only records the stream but not every single camera itself? And: The simple version of the the OSEE GoStream has iso recording, hasn't it?
Hi Aaron. The pattern key actually lets you select a shape to show a portion of the background source. E.g. you could put your face in a circle instead of using pip.
Nice overview. Thanks Aaron. Surely reminds me extremely of an ATEM, but seems a lot of features are included, that the smaller ATEMs don't have. I wonder if BMD is going to have an "answer" to this machine ;)
One big concern compared to the ATEM mini, it only supports up to 30FPS on a software encoder like OBS but I really like the product and going to use it for my new live stream setup
A solution is to get another capture card which supports 60fps like the Camlink and use one of the HDMI outputs on the OSEE video switcher OSEE - Capture card - PC (OBS)
Hey Aaron, I was looking for a new ATEM Switcher earlier today. I have the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO and was looking for something like the older Television Studio HD (the old one supported 4 HDMI / 4 SDI) but Blackmagic doesn't make it anymore. Oh the timing! I need an SDI / HDMI switcher and this sucker is perfect. I love how it also has playback and NDI. That is crazy awesome. Do you have an affiliate link with B&H? I'll pick one of these up, even if you don't. Thanks for posting this video.
Thank you! The old TVSHD had a lot of good things about it! I wish Blackmagic would bring back combo HDMI/SDI devices again. I just updated my link to include B&H, although it looks like they don't have any in stock at the moment. geni.us/48saFW0
@@aaronpk Thanks Aaron. I appreciate the link. I'll order it through B&H. No worries about having to wait till it's in stock. I love your content, btw! You're content has helped me a ton for my own YT channel over the years. Love your production quality and attention to details. Thanks again for posting!
I already figured it was time for the ATEM Mini product line to have a re-fresh, 2025 may be the year. Not just the physical form factor but I think a software re-design to make ATEM a more flexible, scalable, crop-able and generally better software interface.
@@carpetbomberz Stinger can be done with the Dip button if you select a source to make a dip transition through any video source, video file or NDI HX from Aux, Still. Same with wipe, like shown in this video. Transition and thus stinger length can be adjusted between 1 and 8 seconds.
Agree, only reason that I am sticking with ATEM Mini Pro ISO and recently is the Extreme ISO to able to do ISO recordings and fix the final event in post. Soon it’s IBC 2024 and let’s see if BMD introduces Gen 2 of ATEM mini or not.
The Supersource is very inconveniently assembled. Both sources should be reduced by up to 70%. The manufacturer has made them larger, which makes the camera source look compressed. I wrote an appeal to support, they replied that they had received a letter and would think about it, but they had not changed anything in a year. I also asked them to make one of the sources (in other scene) cropped to a square, but none of this has been done. Aaron, if you have the opportunity to contact support, please push them to change the supersource or add new settings, please!
Hi. I'm looking to buy one of these to live edit the four cameras and four mics for a podcast. I was wondering if it was possible to use this to bring up and cut to footage (either from an SD card or an online video from RUclips) to show the guest to get their reactions?
@aaronpk I watched your video about setting up a tally system with an M5 stick for the Atem. It works amazingly well still years later. Is there any way to do a similar thing with the osee GoStream? I actually use Tally Arbiter as the brains to the operation. Do you know if the GoStream will talk to tally arbiter ?
Thanks for the overview. Where do you find that app for the GoStream? Is is downloadable through their website, the app store, or does the GoStream have to be manually plugged into the computer for the app to show itself?
Good Question for you. I have this Osee GoStream Deck Dual. I have the OBSBOT Tail Air using it Wireless doing into the AUX input via NDI and it works well. GoStream Deck is limited to only 1 NDI source via AUX. OK, but I want to add two more Tail Air cameras total of 3 Wireless WiFi NDI to the network. So then after holding down the Play Button, I will see the 3 NDI sources on the NET. Question is... Can I build/record 3 different Macros on buttons ext. 1,2,3 each that the Macros is use to switch quickly & smoothly between the 3 cameras, in effect will seemingly give the GoStream Deck and effect 3 NDI source per say? Would this work, seting up 3 different Memory Macro buttons as a now 'Creative Switcher' to actively switch live between multiple NDI sources simulating a unlimited NDI source switcher? Using macros to break the limited barrier of the advertised ONE NDI source via the 1 AUX input. Can you check this out and see if it will work and let me know please so I can go ahead and order two more Tail Airs?? Thanks Friend.
it definetly comes handy into where the item minis struggle! Thanks a lot for that verbose explanation. Is there a kind of an xml language available for changing settings especially in macros afterwards like on the atem?
There is, and it's very similar actually. I suspect they modeled it after the ATEM. I don't see it in the manual, but you can create a macro and export it to see the details just like on the ATEM.
what will you recommend for a international program, we got 3 cams, 1 pc. How reliable is this? or should i stick with atem mini Extreme. this looks easy to setup without needing an app.
Does it support receiving a SRT stream in the AUX, like it does with NDI? Also streaming out a SRT stream would also be a great plus. The ATEM mini does support this now. But the ATEM can not receive SRT, only transmit.
The live button is not going live on you. When it is scheduled go live; I still need to go in to RUclips to initial live stream . What am I doing wrong?
Yeah, you always need to press the "go live" button on youtube, unless you have "auto-start" turned on. Check out this video for more details on RUclips Studio ruclips.net/video/L2m2WxkXAWU/видео.html
They're very different things that I would use in very different scenarios. I don't have a side by side comparison, nor do I think that would be particularly useful. I have plenty of other videos about the yolobox ultra though.
There is already a beta Companion module! I don't know how long until it makes it into the main build of Companion, but for now you can install it manually!
@@aaronpk it isn't beta anymore but it doesn't have 100% of functionality of 2.1.3 firmware. FYI: I'm the officially appointed expert on GoStreams and consultant of the development team (been to Osee office in Beijing three weeks ago and had lengthy talks with bosses). A link to this video of yours is now at the top of the FAQ that I wrote and maintain, a 30-page Google doc that is being updated from time to time, several times a month. RUclips doesn't allow links in comments by default but if you include it into the video description, it will be very helpful (for me at least). docs dot google dot com slash document/d/1pD_XA1s-hmBTWJNvuJbtYXO3kA4RqFOdjyqE76dGR5Q/view?usp=drivesdk
There's a 4K ATEM geni.us/8JBs5Y but get ready to spend $4600! The cheaper way is to do it all with software like eCamm, but then you'll end up spending a bunch of money on upgrades and accessories for your computer. Probably will come in less than $4600 if you're only doing one or two cameras. If you want more cameras get ready to spend the big bucks though.
Just got this to replace the ATEM Mini Pro that’s only 3 years old. It just can’t keep up with the changing needs. Very impressed with the features in this little thing at the cost that can only be found in the Extreme with the ATEM.
It looks like some factory far far away making ATEM mini's is taking the left over parts, and making their own. Those buttons look like they are the exact same shape and size as the mini. I love it.
haha I like that theory but I doubt it is true. Blackmagic has their own factories and are very tightly controlled, and are not in China. These are just very easy cheap buttons to make.
It's a great device. Only lacking the ISO recording. If they enable that capability is definitively an atem mini killer.
I would probably buy this instantly if it had iso recording but according to the product page the limitation is the usb 2.0 interface
@@jurmajurma7689 I'm sure an ISO version of the product is on the way. It's just a hardware limitation I'd guess.
So that means, it only records the stream but not every single camera itself? And: The simple version of the the OSEE GoStream has iso recording, hasn't it?
@@god0t No it hasn't.
@@god0t None of the Osee products have ISO from what I understand.
Hi Aaron. The pattern key actually lets you select a shape to show a portion of the background source. E.g. you could put your face in a circle instead of using pip.
That requires some preliminary adjustments.
Great timing. I bought one but did not use it yet. Thanks!
Wake up Black Magic the competition is here and it’s real….. thanks Aaron
Nope we are still snoozing!!!
Will this record all the inputs at the same time???
If they enable all channel recording, then I am all in!
Thanks. A fantastic thorough review as always.
Great video! Love your setup, can you please advise the model # of your Lilliput monitor? Thanks.
Thank you for posting this video 🎥🍿🍺🇺🇸👍. You have a new subscriber 🎉. Keep up the great 👍 work 🎉.
Nice overview. Thanks Aaron. Surely reminds me extremely of an ATEM, but seems a lot of features are included, that the smaller ATEMs don't have. I wonder if BMD is going to have an "answer" to this machine ;)
One big concern compared to the ATEM mini, it only supports up to 30FPS on a software encoder like OBS but I really like the product and going to use it for my new live stream setup
A solution is to get another capture card which supports 60fps like the Camlink and use one of the HDMI outputs on the OSEE video switcher
OSEE - Capture card - PC (OBS)
I'm waiting for the Duet Case version that is coming I just don't know when!
They did a good job with that case too!
Hey Aaron, I was looking for a new ATEM Switcher earlier today. I have the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO and was looking for something like the older Television Studio HD (the old one supported 4 HDMI / 4 SDI) but Blackmagic doesn't make it anymore. Oh the timing! I need an SDI / HDMI switcher and this sucker is perfect. I love how it also has playback and NDI. That is crazy awesome. Do you have an affiliate link with B&H? I'll pick one of these up, even if you don't. Thanks for posting this video.
Thank you! The old TVSHD had a lot of good things about it! I wish Blackmagic would bring back combo HDMI/SDI devices again.
I just updated my link to include B&H, although it looks like they don't have any in stock at the moment. geni.us/48saFW0
@@aaronpk Thanks Aaron. I appreciate the link. I'll order it through B&H. No worries about having to wait till it's in stock.
I love your content, btw! You're content has helped me a ton for my own YT channel over the years. Love your production quality and attention to details. Thanks again for posting!
I already figured it was time for the ATEM Mini product line to have a re-fresh, 2025 may be the year. Not just the physical form factor but I think a software re-design to make ATEM a more flexible, scalable, crop-able and generally better software interface.
Thank you, very helpful video
Thanks for the nice tour. Its a bit disappointing that there is no audio effects, like EQ, Delay, compression, gate etc.
It's definitely convenient that the ATEM Mini has that kind of audio processing in it, but I don't mind running audio in a separate board anyway.
NDI is included on the Duet for Free. It is NDI|HX not full NDI
Notice the lack of "Stinger" button, definitely useful button on the OSEE Gostream Duet.
And how cool is it you can do PiP and have interactive controls to mask/crop it ON THE SWITCHER itself. Now that's progress.
@@carpetbomberz Stinger can be done with the Dip button if you select a source to make a dip transition through any video source, video file or NDI HX from Aux, Still. Same with wipe, like shown in this video. Transition and thus stinger length can be adjusted between 1 and 8 seconds.
Amazing piece of engenheering. I want one.
where can I purchase that stand and monitor? Thx
The only thing missing is ISO recording, else it comes pretty close to being the perfect compact video switcher.
Agree, only reason that I am sticking with ATEM Mini Pro ISO and recently is the Extreme ISO to able to do ISO recordings and fix the final event in post. Soon it’s IBC 2024 and let’s see if BMD introduces Gen 2 of ATEM mini or not.
The Supersource is very inconveniently assembled. Both sources should be reduced by up to 70%. The manufacturer has made them larger, which makes the camera source look compressed. I wrote an appeal to support, they replied that they had received a letter and would think about it, but they had not changed anything in a year. I also asked them to make one of the sources (in other scene) cropped to a square, but none of this has been done. Aaron, if you have the opportunity to contact support, please push them to change the supersource or add new settings, please!
we are interested in moving away from atems & this is definetely the thing to move to
12:39 Surely ISO output is something which will create the next wave of interest when the firmware update is released.
The lack of ISO for me is a no-go. Will go for an ATEM Mini Pro ISO.
Hi. I'm looking to buy one of these to live edit the four cameras and four mics for a podcast. I was wondering if it was possible to use this to bring up and cut to footage (either from an SD card or an online video from RUclips) to show the guest to get their reactions?
@aaronpk I watched your video about setting up a tally system with an M5 stick for the Atem. It works amazingly well still years later. Is there any way to do a similar thing with the osee GoStream? I actually use Tally Arbiter as the brains to the operation. Do you know if the GoStream will talk to tally arbiter ?
I’ve been on the cusp of buying an ATEM for a few years.
Then this thing appeared and I got it instead.
Thanks for the overview. Where do you find that app for the GoStream? Is is downloadable through their website, the app store, or does the GoStream have to be manually plugged into the computer for the app to show itself?
You can get it from their website! osee-tech.com/pages/downloads
Good Question for you.
I have this Osee GoStream Deck Dual. I have the OBSBOT Tail Air using it Wireless doing into the AUX input via NDI and it works well. GoStream Deck is limited to only 1 NDI source via AUX. OK, but I want to add two more Tail Air cameras total of 3 Wireless WiFi NDI to the network. So then after holding down the Play Button, I will see the 3 NDI sources on the NET. Question is... Can I build/record 3 different Macros on buttons ext. 1,2,3 each that the Macros is use to switch quickly & smoothly between the 3 cameras, in effect will seemingly give the GoStream Deck and effect 3 NDI source per say? Would this work, seting up 3 different Memory Macro buttons as a now 'Creative Switcher' to actively switch live between multiple NDI sources simulating a unlimited NDI source switcher? Using macros to break the limited barrier of the advertised ONE NDI source via the 1 AUX input. Can you check this out and see if it will work and let me know please so I can go ahead and order two more Tail Airs?? Thanks Friend.
So I just bought this but I have yet to find any solid reviews or experiences using this device as an Encoder? How does it stand up in the field?
it definetly comes handy into where the item minis struggle! Thanks a lot for that verbose explanation. Is there a kind of an xml language available for changing settings especially in macros afterwards like on the atem?
There is, and it's very similar actually. I suspect they modeled it after the ATEM. I don't see it in the manual, but you can create a macro and export it to see the details just like on the ATEM.
@@aaronpk so good! T u so much for your detailed answer.
I would like to know if in super source option we are able to fit 4 cameras instead of only two
what will you recommend for a international program, we got 3 cams, 1 pc. How reliable is this? or should i stick with atem mini Extreme.
this looks easy to setup without needing an app.
Hi, do all the inputs have to be the same frame rate? is there a scaler on any of the inputs? including SDI
Question - is it true that the mixer has only 30P at the output? It's about using Vmix or OBS.
Does it support receiving a SRT stream in the AUX, like it does with NDI? Also streaming out a SRT stream would also be a great plus. The ATEM mini does support this now. But the ATEM can not receive SRT, only transmit.
No SRT support right now. I wouldn't hold my breath for it to come in a firmware update either. _Maybe_ on streaming but most likely not on the input.
@@aaronpk
A that’s unfortunate. I like this switcher. It has so much more than the ATEM.
Thanks
What monitor/mounting hardware are you using?
I've got a ATEM Mini Pro for sale if I can get one of these!
Q. I need to know how to record the stream on an external HD. Help
What format does video have to be for playback? I always hated how you had to do a lot of trial and error with the hyperdecks for that to work right
What is the latency like? Could it be used for IMAG?
Brother, How to input text scrolling.?
In 40:22 the image in super source jumps. Can you explain why that image jump?
I think you mean just the editing of this video? I cut out gaps and mistakes and sometimes it looks weird when you see the jump cut.
If NDI Aux supported key this would be my perfect switcher
yeah, it sucks thay ndi hx doesn't support alpha, and chinese companies have no access yo full ndi. maybe if it could use srt
UVC out to vMix or OBS is only upto 30fps 😢
No ISO - so is this the time to dump my BM ATEM Mini Pro or wait for an ISO version?
The live button is not going live on you. When it is scheduled go live; I still need to go in to RUclips to initial live stream . What am I doing wrong?
Yeah, you always need to press the "go live" button on youtube, unless you have "auto-start" turned on. Check out this video for more details on RUclips Studio ruclips.net/video/L2m2WxkXAWU/видео.html
what SD card is compatable with the OSEE
Hi Aaron. How do we get the software for the Osee?
Any idea how many frames of latency the usb or hdmi output adds?
Is it possible to go full screen with a single hdmi input? As a way to use this kit as a field monitor for a single source.
Yes, you can set either HDMI output to be a passthrough of any of the HDMI inputs
Changed my language to Chinese by mistake! How do I reverse it English? Can’t find the option anywhere on the item or software? 🤷🏿♂️
Find someone who knows chinese and ask for help??
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Looks like a rebranded Roland mixer!
appreciate the video! cheeRs
What platform do you have the switcher mounted on?
The PK1 stand! geni.us/hjX5Br
Any support for Companion and a Streamdeck?
Yes! I have a video coming out next week that talks a bit about it.
USB, Streaming and Recording are combined because of hardware limitations.
How does it compare with the more expensive Yolobox Ultra?
They're very different things that I would use in very different scenarios. I don't have a side by side comparison, nor do I think that would be particularly useful. I have plenty of other videos about the yolobox ultra though.
Are there possibilites for a future Companion module?
There's one already.
There is already a beta Companion module! I don't know how long until it makes it into the main build of Companion, but for now you can install it manually!
@@aaronpk it isn't beta anymore but it doesn't have 100% of functionality of 2.1.3 firmware.
FYI: I'm the officially appointed expert on GoStreams and consultant of the development team (been to Osee office in Beijing three weeks ago and had lengthy talks with bosses). A link to this video of yours is now at the top of the FAQ that I wrote and maintain, a 30-page Google doc that is being updated from time to time, several times a month. RUclips doesn't allow links in comments by default but if you include it into the video description, it will be very helpful (for me at least). docs dot google dot com slash document/d/1pD_XA1s-hmBTWJNvuJbtYXO3kA4RqFOdjyqE76dGR5Q/view?usp=drivesdk
Can you tell me if the mic input is stereo or not?
it is stereo. I was running rode wireless go II with 2 transmitters. one was left and the other was right.
can if do auto switching
Q: Do you "lose" any of the media loaded into the media player when you power-off the OSEE Gostream Duet❓
Nope it retains the media loaded between reboots!
No. You don't lose anything.
Where did you get the stand for it?
There's a link in the description! geni.us/hjX5Br
@@aaronpk Thanks. And which monitor are you using?
@@buildingsheriff That's the Lilliput A10 geni.us/TVSSP
@@aaronpk Thanks, Aaron!
@@aaronpk How are you powering the monitor?
Wow, an Atem Hack.
No ISO recordings it seems? And can you mix and match SDI and HDMI?
You can choose SDI or HDMI for each of the 4 inputs independently. No ISO recording though.
@@tychowerner no ISO, and yes you can select which "source" you want for each input, you could have inputs 1 and 2 be HDMI and 3 and 4 be SDI.
ISO requires a very different hardware. Being involved with Osee, I know some things that aren't public yet but future holds something interesting :).
No audio FX?
Can you digital crop and zoom?
No.
How many NDI sources can you have?
just one NDI-HX
One NDI HX at a time. No Full NDI (NewTek limitations for Chinese manufacturers), you can switch between various NDI sources but not in multiview.
But can it do 4k?
No, nothing at this price point can, you need to spend a lot more money if you want 4K, and not just for your switcher.
@@aaronpk Any recommendations for a 4k HDMI switcher?
There's a 4K ATEM geni.us/8JBs5Y but get ready to spend $4600! The cheaper way is to do it all with software like eCamm, but then you'll end up spending a bunch of money on upgrades and accessories for your computer. Probably will come in less than $4600 if you're only doing one or two cameras. If you want more cameras get ready to spend the big bucks though.
@@aaronpkThe Yolobox Ultra maybe?
can it record separately each channel?
no