Loose All-on-4 Bridge: Fractured Titanium Bar
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2013
- My bridge has to be remade.
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Thank you for educating us. I'm also learning that I will stick with dentures and take the best care of them, and replace them as needed. Your poignant comment about the expense associated with upkeep, not just the original cost, hit me hard. I couldn't afford the repairs and maintenance.
You are fortunate you're having this paid for and you're working with such supportive dentists helping you along the way. And your husband. As always, love you, and thank you for keeping us in your life.
This is to Liz Sedano, yes Kalin won this procedure. That doesn't mean it should have been done shabbily, just because it was free. I had to pay for mine also and if anything goes wrong, my dentist will be taking care of it! Kalin has been very brave about putting this on RUclips. Faulty design is faulty design. You should apologize to this young lady.
Hi Kristi, sorry for your troubles, hope your housing better too, you brought up a wonderful point. I really think the best oral surgeon for my complicated case is in SD CA but I live in the Midwest. I am not at all rich either. I do think the tightening and pre-implant bone and surgical and tissue grafting has to be near perfect, that's why I chose who I did, he does not use all on 4 and was putting an implant where one of the wisdom teeth was extracted.
You are Helping!
Your story is very encouraging to others who have doubts and fears about this treatment. Living with dentures is painful and definitely not a luxury. Dental implants can get you feeling comfortable and confident again (as you have been!). It's unfortunate you have had this complication. I rarely place only 4 implants on my patients. Do keep us updated as this should be a small hurdle to overcome and you will be back to biting an apple soon with a new beautiful smile.
Victor Sanz DDS
Hi....I got my '4 on 1" full mouth reconstruction done in March, here on Long Island in Massapequa Park, NY. Shore Smiles group is simply the best of the best. Early in my my healing process, I developed a slight 'click' in upper denture. 2nd screw (my left) loosened slightly. Which was fixed with a simple tightening adjustment. Everything else was going well until I got whacked with a hose...right on my upper left canine. Now the whole upper has gradually become loose. And after more x-rays, my dentist has decided to do a replacement of the whole top denture. Impressions were already done last visit and tomorrow is my replacement surgery. He explained that in addition to me having a very narrow mouth, I most likely need titanium screws that are deeper and wider. I also needed bone grafting which will be supplemented during tomorrow's procedure. The bottom set has been perfect with no complications. Good luck on your issues and will check back in next few weeks
I love the positive attitude my daughter has... She has a really great attitude about everything going on in her life right now... She is rubbing off on me... It should be the other way around but after seeing this video I am going to owe her a HUGE apology... And she knows what I am talking about...
Your positive attitude is very reassuring. I'm still waiting on my teeth. It's been 9 weeks without teeth. I try not to leave the house. Mine are supposed to be ready next week.ugh. I can't wait.
You really do have a good positive attitude. That's one thing I've gotten from your videos. That it is important to be positive. I still have my teeth at the moment but I was recently told I needed 5 root canals or extractions, I was devastated because I'm only 28. Your vids pulled me out of my funk and made me realize that I have to do what I have to do and a bad attitude isn't going to fix my teeth. Good luck, I hope it all goes well for you!
Praying everything goes well for you today!
Somehow I missed this update until now, and you have been on my mind and in my prayers. I'm so glad you were able to be evaluated so soon locally. What a blessing that was! So much stress is in the not knowing what's happening. Have a safe trip and we look forward to hearing good things soon. :) Barb in MO
Sorry to hear you are having so many issues with your new implants. It makes me think twice about considering implants (if I could ever afford them) I have heard from other dentist that this can be a major problem with implants. What I do appreciate is you upbeat attitude and honesty. You are always a great help to the dentures community!
I wish you the best with your implants!
-Shiela
I agree in that if I had paid 50k for these and I experienced these issues, I would be beyond upset. I do hear from several of Dr. Golpa's patients and so far i'm the only one experiencing this. While I am not sure about the first set, I have my ideas as to why this one fractured and it may not entirely be the design, but rather the way the screws were torqued. More answers coming soon!
Thanks for sharing your story. Knowing that I'll need some form of surgery...soon, I'd rather hear the pros and the cons. Thanks again!
Good Luck Kristi! I feel very bad for you to be going thru all of this, especially as you said, you are a very busy girl with the kids starting school and other very important things in your life. Hang in there, you have done a great job thus far and I am sure, I along with all the other viewers look forward to your update saying all is well once again.
Kristi I hate to hear there are problems with your beautiful implants! But I love how positive and open minded you are about everything! And even if this doesn't happen often, it is such and important aspect when considering them. My periodonist did say that she would cover most issues that may happen if I go through her. I will certainly need a couple more details on what is covered before doing the plunge, once I can afford them that is. lol Thank you for the update, and hugs to you!
Sorry to hear that Kristi. Best wishes to you on the trip and the repair.
The all-on-4 design is under-engineered. Your natural teeth have 14 teeth on each jaw to bear the load. Four implants to replace all teeth is risky for fixed bridges. It is better to have six or eight implants per jaw if you want everything to last.
I think she won her teeth from Golpa g4 and then won a new set from avoclar. This is one disadvantage of using out of state doc problem happened because local doctor not Golpa didn’t re install them right which gave symptoms of broken bridge. Oh well
If the dentist said its a faulty design i hope they did not charge you again. becaue they said they place a faulty device. I personally think it was not a design flaw.
The titanium inside is a casting. The metal is heated into a liquid and poured into a mold. Air bubbles can form inside during the casting process and cause small voids for the metal to crack. I’m thinking this is what happened but I’m no dentist so...
These things happen. I'm sure they'll look after you. All on 4 is very advanced treatment. Best of luck.
All of 4 on the top, the standard advice is to never have that done. The top requires a minimum of 6 implants and preferably 8, as all the bone tissue if any is really soft on the uppers. I assume something bad happened and as a result all your bone was gone, and this was the only option. That is usually the case for people 60 and over who left teeth missing for a long time causing complete bone loss. Dr Armin at Burbank Dental has a lot of good information at his site about this.
People of your young age should be getting the best type of teeth and implants. The Zirconia bridge is suppose to be the best
unit out there that is extremely solid with no flex. Acrylic bridges are a no no, and Porcilan is subject to chips and cracking more.
The teeth grinding at night is what they call Bruxism, and is indeed probably a factor in why you had problems. The Dentists that do implants these days, ASK about that on the forms you fill out. Definite that you need a night guard.
I am getting a smaller bridge done on the upper front 8 which will have 4 implants just for those teeth. It will not be the all on four style installation, as I have lots of bone where the implants will go. Hoping to do the remaining three back teeth on each upper side, down the road with implant bridges and two implants on each. The Doc said 4 hours to get that done.
I've had a week away so am just catching up on some video diaries. Sorry that you've got issues, but glad you're getting them sorted. Stay positive and keep smiling and have a safe trip when you go :-)
Thanks Shiela. From what I was told, the implants look fantastic but the bridge is demolished. Now, if I were to put off seeking care, the implants may be compromised by the instability of the bridge.
Thank god it's just the bridge! Have a safe journey.
Serious problems with the implants. I wish you all the dental happiness in the world. Greeting from Sander, dental technician from Holland.
Oh Kristi im so sorry..I know that has to be so disappointing :( well, i go tomorrow to start my extractions (im opting to do them a little at a time)..so tonight when i say my prayers that i have a good experience tomorrow, i will also be praying for you to get this fixed as soon as possible so you can go back to enjoying your beautiful smile..good luck chick :)
You definitely want to know what you're getting yourself into. Totally not making excuses here because I should not have had two faulty bridges so far, that's just not excusable.... but as with dentures, everyone's situation is different. Some go forever with the same set of dentures, never having any problems... mine cracked after biting into a piece of shrimp. No different w/ implants. However, that *is* a lot of money to invest if you're not totally confident things will be smooth.
So sorry your going through all that stuff....its so weird how it happen.... love ya girl
Wow, I got $52, 000 together to have this done and now I am going to second think this type of procedure. I am going to wait to see your outcome. Good luck.
These sure sound like a lot of care, and complications. I'm thank ful for my beautiful dentures. Thank you for your videos. Hang in there
It turned out that it wasn’t fractured, just a loose screw. The titanium framework was put together in sections which made it appear to be fractured on the x-ray.
I totally agree with you Liz.
Hi kalin, i see my story has been cut off for unknown reason. So let me go on where i ended. The occlusion should be perfect. Also the lateral movement during occlusion should be perfect and feel perfect and smooth. If that is not the case you should have it fixed or it will cause problems. I understood from earlier vids you won the bridge, so be a little gentle to the dentist. Nevertheless you should wear a product that functions perfect. If you waiting a while longer it could have given you s
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR DENTAL WORK! I FOUND IT TO BE VERY UPLIFTING! IT REALLY DID HELP ME WITH SOME DECISIONS I'M TRYING TO MAKE WITH MY OWN CASE! GOD BLESS YOU HONEY! YOUR A ANGEL! :)
Sorry to hear of the issues with your bridges. Hopefully they can get you back eating soon.
I just really want to know the the heck people afford Dr. Golpa ???
That is definitely something to consider! Do you remember the brand? I'll have to look into that.
Thank you!
Gosh, hang in there!
It's not an easy decision but you really don't want to jump in to something unless you know how you will take care of it. Upkeep shouldn't be too much more expensive than upkeep of natural teeth, but should you break a bridge and it's not covered, that gets REALLY expensive! I think mine are around 12k per bridge! It's definitely something to think about!
Thank you so much for making these videos.
Good luck I was eating yesterday and I heard a crack. And one of my teeth in my bridge is loose. The other 3 teeth on the bridge is still tightly affixed. The one loose one makes it hard to chew cause it's loose. Scared if I chew to hard I'm gonna break the whole bridge. Was eating freaking bread and crack.. hope it can be fixed. Good luck your beautiful. And I love your accent..
Kristi thanks for this video and for sharing as always :) Please keep us posted as to how it turns out...wishing you the best of luck, sending positive thoughts and prayers your way girlie
Thanks Peg
Kristi,
It makes me wonder if 4 implants is enough to support the bridge. I have a bar retained denture with 2 implants (upper) and 2 (bottom). I have an annoying habit of pushing my bottom denture up against the top causing movement there. Last weekend, my bar became loose and I was in panic mode. Next, the screw came out that was holding it to the implant. I contacted my dentist and got in to see her on Monday. She told me it was caused by me moving it back and forth.
I'm going through the process of getting a bridge installed in some of my back teeth namely two abutment molars and a false molar in between them. I'm going crazy worrying about it. Will I be able to properly take care of the bridge so it will last the rest of my life: I'm 58 years old. I bought a waterpik flosser will that be adequate to floss all around the bridge. If you have any answers that can help I would appreciate it.
Your teeth look beautiful kalinjax. Perfect
Thank you!
Love you mama!
I'm trying to figure out what's up with all the t-shirts 😆 at first i thought it was just a normal closet but it looks like multiple of each shirt.
Since this was a "design flaw", did you have to pay for new titanium bar or any part of this repair service?
I been waiting for my teeth for over a yr now so I know how you feel.I been wearing this stupid flipper is hard to eat and I’m in so much stress and anxiety..
Thank you for sharing! You are good to do so. I am considering my options and I am just learning about the All-On-4. What was the cost? Did you have insurance? Did it cover any? Thanks for your insight and for the positive outlook tip. noted! UPDATE: I'm going to your site for answers.
All that fabric 🤤
You're great. Thanks for sharing. :)
Knew it couldn't have been the gum...that just didn't sound right. My wife got a night guard a few weeks ago and has helped her tremendously. BUT...she didn't buy one from the dentist. She went to the local sporting goods store and bought one of the smaller profile mouth guards that football players use. You just put it in boiling water for 20 seconds or so, put it in your mouth and bite down. It forms perfectly around her teeth. I think she spent under $15 for it.
Good luck
How long did yours last, kalinjax? Mine lasted 2 1/2 years. $34,000 down the drain. This is not something that should be done to people. Rich people or winners in contests only.
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what were your symptoms that the bridge was loose? I am getting a ton of saliva under it. I can suck it all up and then push up on the bridge and everything settles down
BTW, The dentist was able to tighten the screw and all is well except I now realize what can happen and I am trying really hard to stop my habit of rocking the denture.
Can you tell please what is the sistem of implant you wearing? What is the country of manufactory? many thanks.
this is awkward . what was happened ? my guess is : the implants are not in the same geometric plane . that way the charges on different implants are very different . that caused the breaking of the bar . I am right ?
She doesn't remember the brand just that it was one of the cheaper ones ones. They had several kinds ranging from $7 to $60. She first bought one for $25 but noticed plastic was peeling off so took it back. Then a $50 one that hurt her teeth. Took it back and got one under $10. She says out of the 3 the cheap one fit her the best & has no problem sleeping with it. Although she sometimes starts talking, sits up & takes it out of her mouth...all while asleep. That's when I start recording. LOL
Hi kalin. I have been watching your vids for a while bla bla bla. Let me get to the point. I think the bridge is not made well. There must have been some tension in the bridge that should not have been there. It is very unusual that such a structure breaks....unless there was tension because of a technical failure. I hope for you it will be fixed under garanty. If it is not, sue them! Now about the broken molar, that i must conclude is a technical failure too. The occlusion should be perfect a
I bet you make sure your children are conscientious about brushing their teeth. My parents never said anything and it's caused a lot of problems over the years. When my friend's sons were teens she told me they didn't have the first cavity and when I met them I couldn't believe how beautiful their teeth were. She said that their dentist coated their teeth so they couldn't get cavities. Wish they'd had that when we were young.
coated with what?
Noniksleft my daughter is 25 but starting with her toddler appnt the dentist coats each section of your teeth divided into 4 areas and one at a time.. I thought they were Flouride treated.. it’s standard now but is success is to begin when children are young.. your dentist would know by General ??ss
LoveFlatfootin1 it is common practice now my daughter had hers coated in sections at a time and she is 25 now and never a cavity.. I believe it’s a flouride. treatment
Dental sealant my son is 25 years old now. I have really bad tooth decay. So we had his permanent teeth sealed. My husband was in the Navy then. So he had good dental insurance. 6 teeth were sealed in was $90 per tooth. Our insurance covered 90%. So my husband and I only paid $60 to seal them. His teeth are fine and in good shape.
This is my nightmare when it comes to getting an implant. The cost already is so high having to get it re-done is terrifying to think about. To be fair about your husband its not something worth bringing up generally as you never think about it.
if dr golpa charged you 60K for these,you need to sue the crap out of him. i have seen other reviews where he has messed up too.
Wondering about the bridge, did it have to be remade? What is your status?
All this hell u have to go through and the friggin expense, is it worth it?
how do u become a contest winner for this procedure? i need it done
$60,000 wtf!... mini implants are 12K + extraction +dentures $2,800 all done for less than 20K
You keep your teeth from Ivan car Vivadent you just need the bar replaced but that’s not going to cost you if it’s defected trip paid for too
wow someone said it cost about 50 grand wow that's a fishing boat and a truck.
richard feldman and nice teeth
Liz I’m happy you stood up and commented as mentioned u don’t normally do so and nor do I but am doing so today after reading your comment to kalinjax I am lucky as I only have 6 missing back teeth compared to you not having any and having to pay to have them all taken out im getting a temp implant soon then implants. I live in Nevada so getting to Dr. G isn’t a issue and can’t imagine traveling from Florida or Michigan to Vegas just for dental. But my point to all this Liz and your husband “who’s in the medical field “ what was the point of bringing him into any of this??? And also what was the point in all your $$$?? Yes anyone can say whatever as freedom of speech and opinions are allowed. So here’s mine.. Lizard, Liz ( that’s what I picture you looking like without teeth) my opinion. Your a tad upset you didn’t win like Kalin won and you clearly don’t understand RUclips ( which is the best thing ever) because heck if you don’t like something you don’t have to watch it or read it! I liked your comment as it just reminds me there’s people out there that get their panties in a bind over this shit and I bet you were talking about Kalin’s post to all your friends putting her down. BaHahaha. Who knows if you’ll ever read this since it was a while ago. I hope you do as I’m getting enjoyment out of this. If you do here’s another question why bring up spending $59,000 on schooling? Your just saying things that are issues in your world cause u probably never finished college and pissed at that! OH before I go you could have got your teeth out for free here in Nevada all ya had to do was call me ! I’d knock them right out for ya! And have them inserted in your ass where you seem to talk out of the most!! Ok that was my fun for the day! Kalin keep doin you cause your beautiful and inspiring!
This is not good enough. Stuff That . Go For Denture's
This is Not Good Enough :(
Geesh..what a bummer....two steps forward one step back..you are such a positive role model but just so ya know...if ya EVER decide to VENT and lose it..WE WOULD all understand..smiles. I'm sure since the moment you felt something was wrong until the doctor confirmed the fracture you were living in hell..questioning yourself..beating yourself up...guilt over.. AGAIN having to burden your family who have supported you so much and the expense...WELL.It's NOT your fault...AND EVERYTHING WILL BE OK.
I just got Hybridge permanent, none removable bridges. They are made with chrome cobalt plates screwed directly to my jaw. Even with these, I was told to NEVER eat gum, hard candies, ice, hard nuts, or ANYTHING that could be harder than the bridge. Gum sticks to bridge material and is a disaster. It sounds to me like you were either given a bad product OR you were not given good instructions. Maybe you just ignored instructions?
Was never told not to eat gum. I have discovered that I can safely eat most gum with no problems.
Just stating the facts...
I can't believe ALL of the issues you're having with your $60k implants! If anything, Dr. Gulpa's work has proven that it's not worth it. Yes, your bridges are gorgeous, but had you paid it yourself, you'd be pissed and probably would want a refund. I would. Dr. Gulpa didn't do it right the first time (he cut corners w cheaper materials) so they broke, then you got titanium and they broke again. It's really not good. Your lucky it's free, but the rest of us have to pay. Wishing you the best!!!
Biting force is always greatest along the rear teeth. With all your implants placed in the front, your long term success likelihood is poor. They do look great, tho.
So they pay for your teeth and all free
Nice
She can't even talk right -at all!Very scary when searching.She is all teeth!Not trying to be rude it's just very scary as I said.
What a NIGHTMARE contest winner you must be for Dr Golpa, DDS after $59,000 free procedure! You have certainly changed! I am someone that PAID my own $$$$$$$$$ with Dr Golpa and he is terrific! Your case, if I recall, was severely bone density disabled & most DDS would have never touched your case. Maybe Dr Golpa would have been better to give you $59,000 cash & have sent you on your way as his contest winner. You are complaining on almost EVERY video (shape, bite, implants, break, and now this!). Shame on you.
Because the world would be a better place if you never saw any opposition or criticism to ANYTHING, right? Wouldn't it be wonderful if every product review spoke nothing but positive about the product…… right? Wouldn't it be amazing? I'm sorry, contest winner or not, i'm going to be honest about everything. 100% honest. If you don't like that, I am terribly sorry. Where is your video review? Could you send me the link, please? I didn't say I think Dr. Golpa is terrible. Never said anything bad about them or the All-on-4 system. Is it 100% perfect? No. And that's what I am here to say. I had an amazing experience with Dr. Golpa and i've said that time and time again. But I am here to share the criticisms as well. A good dentist will take constructive criticism and use it to improve his skill. Most appreciate my honesty. Liz, whoever you are….. RUclips is a free service and you are more than welcome to create videos stating all of the positives about your experience with Dr. Golpa. But if i'm not mistaken, he already has videos on his website listing off all of the positives. I am simply stating the pros and cons for those who would like to know what they are getting themselves into before they spend their life savings on a treatment…. and have unrealistic expectations of things…. Good day!
Btw, this is the only activity you have on YT or Google+. Wonder where you came from.
Where did I "come from? "
I "came from" months of watching YOUR story (blog)!
I "came from" being a paying patient of Dr. Golpa, DDS.
I "came from" Michigan with my husband to have the procedure done.
It seems from your blog videos that you are having trouble because you were a unique case with years of having worn dentures first (causing bone loss). You said that no one else would have even given you the All-on-4 due to yr severe bone loss. They took a chance & it was free.
If you are insinuating that I am not a "REAL" patient with your comment asking "I wonder where you came from," you are wrong. I traveled from Michigan to Nevada after much research with my husband accompanying me (who is in medical field).
Also, your comment that this was my only comment on Google or YT is probably correct. I am not a big poster like you, but I AM a patient of 3 years. I had all 28 teeth removed & the All-on-4 implanted immediately afterward (up & lower) & I have been back for my check-ups. I have had no complaints.
I hope you are doing well.
Lastly, I am a big supporter of Constructive Criticism & was not alluding that you should be automatically thrilled just because your $50,000 procedure was free. If you have issues you should air them, however yr tone changed so dramatically that I found it blasphemous---Dr Golpa, DDS would have probably flown you back to Nevada on his dime to fix anything y were unhappy with rather than have you spew negative information online. He flew me (& my husband) back within 1 week when one of my temporary teeth broke after eating popcorn. All his cost. Now, I have my permanent set & can eat anything.
Liz sedano no good deed goes unpunished !