Dont care about benchmark score. What matters to me is camera signal processing and battery life. Also emulator support and such. Sd seems oouright winner in all these categories.
First Samsung says its amd gpu going to be 1900 mhz to compete with snapdragon , but then stable mhz shows 1300 only . So thats the truth , not much of a improvement . Its all because 4nm samsung is more like 8nm or even 10nm , real 4nm is tsmc . Also Nvidia uses 4nm samsung and was not happy with what they get in 3000 rtx series , with tsmc they're gonna get much higher mhz clocks . So truth is that Samsung got shitty nm process.
@@hotlookman1258 how about adreno 730? It par with a15 5 core gpu and efficient as a14 bionic. And Qualcomm use lpx 4nm vs Samsung use lpe 4nm which better then lpx 4nm
Not so sure anymore, I had a deal today to buy the ULTRA but somebody offered more, it was 1200 EUR which is really to high. I dont trust anyone geniunly without really doing it myself
Ask yourself this question ... WHY are the big boys NOT covering the performance and battery issues ?? All we see are smaller youtubers and the big influencers are quite ... MrwhosetheBoss didn't say much ... Just mentioned in his battery test that the 2200 scored a bit less than the 2100, but he didn't go into detail and looked into it further nor did he condemn it. Back in the days they crucified the 990 ! They crucified the S20Ultra with the crappy focus .. Now they are silent and worry about unpacking a device that everyboy has seen for weeks now and there is nothing to unpack as there is nothing else in the box. The camera (which is good) has been covered and reviewed left and right, for a week now. So, there must be an embargo on the performance and battery stamina. The smaller guys never signed an agreement nor are they compensated by Samsung. Be critical and ask yourself why it's so quite ......
@@regalblack1503 It's great except for the performance and batterylife. Battery is the most important as any GREAT deviuce is USELESS when the battery runs out. You become a wall hugger looking for places to charge your 1300 euro device. Especially in 2022 we really love a 2day device which means you can use it all day with heavy use. The 2200 will NOT do that and batterylife will only decrease over time as we all know. From the the 1st week you will be limiting yourself and features on an Ultra device. What a disgrace. I said a lot and we will see ...MARK my words ! It will NOT get better or to 2100+ levels with an update. You will be stuck with it, like a 990.
This fact ex2100 was for one year ago and the performance is almost same with ex2200 make ex2100 more valuable But let's see good points every single year Exynos became better in terms of stability so maybe ex2300 work on performance and then ex2400 became a revolution
People HOPE this every year and i predicted this 10 months ago .... Exynos is trash ! The money invested in a Snapdragon is so much more because they will caters to a hundred different brands while exynos is only used in specific Samsung regions, and nobody else will use it. Secondly, Qualcomm has a long history of making mobile performance chips, much more than the Exynos division and they are not sitting idle. Samsung needs to stop it ans use exynos in midrange devices, not create division in their expensive premium market. No other brand does that !
@@Roomer645 Haha Pure Hate Companies are now investing in their own chips example google Tensor Apple has A series Huawei has kiren Own develop chip give companies more control last year exynos 2100 matched the 888 and outperforms it in battery
@@regalblack1503 The only one that has good results is Apple. Know why ??? Because they have everything in house. They make the software themselves while all the rest have to abide to Android limitations. The soc's are also not fully their own design and are ARM copies plus most of them are new to this game and don't have the research and experience like Apple has. Last years 2100 was better than the 990 but still it wasn't as good as the 888. The picture processing was better on the 888 and performance was also better in most cases.
I have the s22 ulra exynos. And i can tell you 1 thing these scores are not true. I tested multiple times. From wildlife to antutu to geekbench and the scores are much higher, some people are talking like they got the phone only just speculating well if that makes you happy be my guest.
@@VelianSpeaksTech this is first gen GPU this was expeco, since AMD had never developed mobile GPUs however let's hope Samsung does work around this issue
Not going to happen ! There has never ever been a driver/software that truely boosted performance and battery stamina by let's say +10% or more. You might even need 20% to pass the 2100 performance and have a gain that would be acceptable. Show me 1 device that ever got a software upgrade and increased it's performance noticeably ..... Just name me 1 Oh, i am not talkking about fixes that solved the batterydrain after a faulty update like we have seen with almost every release. I am talking a crappy soc that underperforms, like the 990 and then a magic update that makes it all good. So good that the world suddenly wants a exynos version and ditches the SD version. Not going to happen !
I would be willing to speak in your show and explain how this all works and why it won't change much, not now, not after an update and people will once be stuck with a new 990 kind of experience !
@@VelianSpeaksTech Note how the Big influencers are keep their mouth shut !! Where is MKBHD ? Where is Flossy ? Where are the big EU influencers about the 2200 ?? Just talking about the usual stuff, the 25th camera comparison and no indepth about true performance and battery stamina. Just watch and see the upcoming days when the embargo ends and they will ALL release video's being critical about performance issues, dissapointment, fixes, what happened to AMD, etc etc etc.
@@Roomer645 Yep, it`s a sad story but at least we were first, we are talking this now and we now it`s coming - can`t hide for too long, 24th and all the embargos are down - their videos are already queued I can tell.
@@VelianSpeaksTech Yes, they are hypocrits and we all know it. Silent now for more than a week and suddenly they will drop the bomb as if they care and knew it all along. It's in this time that people need to be aware of issues while they are being lured into buying a 1300 euro device with the pre order gifts and all. A lot of them will feel betrayed by April when they realise that they haven't upgraded much and that Samsung has moved on to the Fold 4 and will only push some security updates. The world has moved on to the latest OP 10 pro, The xiaomi 12 Ultra, The ROG 6 and the leak machine will be reporting daily about the Iphone 14.
Nobody talks about raytracing because that does NOTHING for regular performance, it won't do anythiung for the battery and is only usable when the coding activates Raytracing. It's a gimmick since companies are not going to make games with a special exynos 2200 version just for a dedicated group of people.
What a joke. Exynos has the same price but 30% worse performance. This should be illegal
Just like the TN vs IPS panel lottery that Nintendo did with the 3DS/2DS models.
Millions of gamers are still unaware.
Dont care about benchmark score. What matters to me is camera signal processing and battery life. Also emulator support and such. Sd seems oouright winner in all these categories.
First Samsung says its amd gpu going to be 1900 mhz to compete with snapdragon , but then stable mhz shows 1300 only . So thats the truth , not much of a improvement . Its all because 4nm samsung is more like 8nm or even 10nm , real 4nm is tsmc . Also Nvidia uses 4nm samsung and was not happy with what they get in 3000 rtx series , with tsmc they're gonna get much higher mhz clocks . So truth is that Samsung got shitty nm process.
NVDIA RTX 30xx series used 8nm ...
Exynos used 4nm LPP
SD 8 gen used 4nm LPE
@@Mrorlgloth anyway its Samsungs tech process, thing is its much worse than tsmc
@@hotlookman1258 yeah like Snapdragon 810
😆 🤣 😂
@@hotlookman1258 how about adreno 730?
It par with a15 5 core gpu and efficient as a14 bionic.
And Qualcomm use lpx 4nm vs Samsung use lpe 4nm which better then lpx 4nm
Is geekbench is capped for Android?each year they say 20% more cpu improvement........and improvement are shown only on antutu😐
Let's wait a little and see what magic Samsung is going to bring with updates.
Just wait for proper geniun people to upload the comparison
These online benchmarks and comparisons are misleading and fake
Not so sure anymore, I had a deal today to buy the ULTRA but somebody offered more, it was 1200 EUR which is really to high.
I dont trust anyone geniunly without really doing it myself
Ask yourself this question ...
WHY are the big boys NOT covering the performance and battery issues ??
All we see are smaller youtubers and the big influencers are quite ...
MrwhosetheBoss didn't say much ... Just mentioned in his battery test that the 2200 scored a bit less than the 2100, but he didn't go into detail and looked into it further nor did he condemn it.
Back in the days they crucified the 990 ! They crucified the S20Ultra with the crappy focus ..
Now they are silent and worry about unpacking a device that everyboy has seen for weeks now and there is nothing to unpack as there is nothing else in the box.
The camera (which is good) has been covered and reviewed left and right, for a week now.
So, there must be an embargo on the performance and battery stamina. The smaller guys never signed an agreement nor are they compensated by Samsung.
Be critical and ask yourself why it's so quite ......
@@Roomer645 only time will tell just few days left until retail units comes out
@@regalblack1503 It's great except for the performance and batterylife.
Battery is the most important as any GREAT deviuce is USELESS when the battery runs out.
You become a wall hugger looking for places to charge your 1300 euro device.
Especially in 2022 we really love a 2day device which means you can use it all day with heavy use.
The 2200 will NOT do that and batterylife will only decrease over time as we all know.
From the the 1st week you will be limiting yourself and features on an Ultra device.
What a disgrace.
I said a lot and we will see ...MARK my words !
It will NOT get better or to 2100+ levels with an update.
You will be stuck with it, like a 990.
This fact ex2100 was for one year ago and the performance is almost same with ex2200 make ex2100 more valuable
But let's see good points every single year Exynos became better in terms of stability so maybe ex2300 work on performance and then ex2400 became a revolution
The 2200 is better apps are not optimised for the new soc wait untill retail units come out alot of problems will be fixed
People HOPE this every year and i predicted this 10 months ago .... Exynos is trash !
The money invested in a Snapdragon is so much more because they will caters to a hundred different brands while exynos is only used in specific Samsung regions, and nobody else will use it.
Secondly, Qualcomm has a long history of making mobile performance chips, much more than the Exynos division and they are not sitting idle.
Samsung needs to stop it ans use exynos in midrange devices, not create division in their expensive premium market. No other brand does that !
@@Roomer645 Haha Pure Hate
Companies are now investing in their own chips example google Tensor
Apple has A series Huawei has kiren
Own develop chip give companies more control last year exynos 2100 matched the 888 and outperforms it in battery
@@regalblack1503 The only one that has good results is Apple.
Know why ??? Because they have everything in house. They make the software themselves while all the rest have to abide to Android limitations.
The soc's are also not fully their own design and are ARM copies plus most of them are new to this game and don't have the research and experience like Apple has.
Last years 2100 was better than the 990 but still it wasn't as good as the 888.
The picture processing was better on the 888 and performance was also better in most cases.
Nicely said!
I have the s22 ulra exynos. And i can tell you 1 thing these scores are not true. I tested multiple times. From wildlife to antutu to geekbench and the scores are much higher, some people are talking like they got the phone only just speculating well if that makes you happy be my guest.
How did you get it early?
@@JR28. i have the phone sins de 18th, i did a pre order early and i got is fast.
@@03Ibrat sure
@@JR28. Plenty of people got it early, reddit is full of them. Some people got it as soon as 13th-14th.
@@ioanbardan5150 I got mine last month... don't tell anyone though 👍
First mobile chip by AMD, I think they need 2-3 years to be at the top.
same name, same price, different performance...is this legal? How Samsung can get away with this? Is like European customers get leftovers only
I'm brazillian, I'm ALSO left over. I'm sending it back to Samsung. I don't want this sh*tty soc.
Hey Viliannn
Hi theeeere :)
Let's hope Samsung is goona release AMD driver's or something to address this issue
I do hope as well!!!
Where the hell is RTX? Variable shading? Where is the gaming revolution?
@@VelianSpeaksTech this is first gen GPU this was expeco, since AMD had never developed mobile GPUs however let's hope Samsung does work around this issue
I have very high hopes on that and now I am a bit diassapointed, nothing so far
@@VelianSpeaksTech probably next year. This year's GPU is very inefficient. It's unlikely they will push it to limit.
Not going to happen !
There has never ever been a driver/software that truely boosted performance and battery stamina by let's say +10% or more.
You might even need 20% to pass the 2100 performance and have a gain that would be acceptable.
Show me 1 device that ever got a software upgrade and increased it's performance noticeably ..... Just name me 1
Oh, i am not talkking about fixes that solved the batterydrain after a faulty update like we have seen with almost every release.
I am talking a crappy soc that underperforms, like the 990 and then a magic update that makes it all good. So good that the world suddenly wants a exynos version and ditches the SD version.
Not going to happen !
I would be willing to speak in your show and explain how this all works and why it won't change much, not now, not after an update and people will once be stuck with a new 990 kind of experience !
Why not... and yes, it`s a bit sad what they are doing.
@@VelianSpeaksTech Note how the Big influencers are keep their mouth shut !!
Where is MKBHD ? Where is Flossy ? Where are the big EU influencers about the 2200 ??
Just talking about the usual stuff, the 25th camera comparison and no indepth about true performance and battery stamina.
Just watch and see the upcoming days when the embargo ends and they will ALL release video's being critical about performance issues, dissapointment, fixes, what happened to AMD, etc etc etc.
@@Roomer645 Yep, and we were first. :)
@@Roomer645 Yep, it`s a sad story but at least we were first, we are talking this now and we now it`s coming - can`t hide for too long, 24th and all the embargos are down - their videos are already queued I can tell.
@@VelianSpeaksTech Yes, they are hypocrits and we all know it.
Silent now for more than a week and suddenly they will drop the bomb as if they care and knew it all along.
It's in this time that people need to be aware of issues while they are being lured into buying a 1300 euro device with the pre order gifts and all.
A lot of them will feel betrayed by April when they realise that they haven't upgraded much and that Samsung has moved on to the Fold 4 and will only push some security updates.
The world has moved on to the latest OP 10 pro, The xiaomi 12 Ultra, The ROG 6 and the leak machine will be reporting daily about the Iphone 14.
Nobody talks about raytracing because that does NOTHING for regular performance, it won't do anythiung for the battery and is only usable when the coding activates Raytracing.
It's a gimmick since companies are not going to make games with a special exynos 2200 version just for a dedicated group of people.
That what I am most afraid. Where is the revolution in gaming? Samsung already promised things only working on PowerPoint but not in real life.
Really just 500+ mhz going to do ray traycing
it is just gimmick feature
Probably rtx didn't come this year. It wasn't even mentioned during launch.
Games dev should push through but let's see
They will Not come ever ... Every year the same song
RTX is just a marketing buzzword from Nvidia.
In multi core my SD S21 Ultra beats my SD S22 Ultra
This benchmark are complet false or he just got prototyp.