To the usual armchair -trades workers- "makers": The direction of the cut, when full-width slotting, does not matter. When not full-width slotting, climb cutting and conventional cutting can both be used in different applications.
@@bwojak3226 You could hear the difference in the noise and how much better the machine worked when the machine was used going forwards,and also how much smoother it worked,yet he never picked up on it !
this is how this guy is with literally EVERYTHING he touches. Sadly he destroys and abusing everything he touches. I just don't get it. I mean literally destroys everything. Pressing down so hard on that thing and in the wrong direction lol. He does at least admit though he breaks everything.
We call them cowboys here in the uk . I use the makita half inch router , and would never cut anything deeper than a 3mm pass . Your tool will last longer for starters , and if the routers doesnt like something reduce cutting depth simple . He's a idiot .
Hey Vince, try the router direction the other way. The router will automatically press himself on the wood behind and will not wabble out every centimeter. Sorry for my bad english
Apart from the router jumping all over when using it backwards he did not even pick up on the difference in noise and how much better/smoother it worked/sounded when using it in a clockwise direction !
@@HaloGamer401, you don’t ‘now what you’re talking about. It absolutely does matter what direction you cut. Go back to gaming and leave the woodworking to the pros.
When installing kitchens I like to do plywood just where the upper cabinets are going makes it so much more easier when storing cabinets been trying to find a stud
The guys and I loooooovvvvveee the Fuel router! I had bought a cordless dewalt too, and it's also great, but much bulkier and the micro adjustments aren't nearly as effortless and spot on. Still use the crap out of it though. I do not have the makita, but i have used one (one of my men has it as his personal shop router) it seems Milwaukee did some homework, using a few makita designs, but made a better overall package. I'm very impressed with all of our newest cordless tools to be honest. We used to spend an hour seting up and an hour shutting down. Wrapping cords, hoses, moving compressors, generators, shoving tools with cords back in hard cases, etc. Every single day....We still do some of that when we don't have our temp A.C. power. Mainly just when doing our framing. But man, not nearly what it used to be. If we wanted to lug around hitachi framers all day, we COULD be completely cordless. The downside is, as codes change, and another Simpson strongtie something or another is required, there goes the convenience and speed of the job overall, because now we're buying another task specific tool. Still, we're not being slowed down by power cords and hoses on small tools. I'm super excited to see what the future holds in store for the trades! Yo thanks for the content @VCG Construction 🤙 beasts! 💪
@@seasgarage no I sure haven't. It looks like a solid piece of equipment for the price though. Closest home depot to us is 45 min. I usually buy all of our tools from local plumbing, and electrical suppliers, a specialty concrete supply house, and smaller lumberyards. Some very good deals and customer service is top notch. Unfortunately yellow and red is pretty well the majority of what we have. Recently a concrete tool supplier has gained makita so I'm looking forward to checking new offerings out there. I do love my ridgid hand plumbing tools. I think that is separate from ridgid power tools however. Maybe someone with hands on experience can chime in on that router.. 🤜 @kingofthecrease30 got any info on the ridgid router?
Love mine so far, only used it to mortise hinges but it works great! Hope you are all staying safe, and as busy as you can during all of this craziness! Love the work!
Techno Tard Absolutely! I just spent 8 years in an apartment and have always used my compound miter saw, circular saw, jig saw, numerous drills, etc. all in my living room to build several desks, stands, tables, shelves, etc. and nobody even says anything to me. Just because one lives in an apartment doesn’t mean that they aren’t allowed to own quality power tools lol.
The direction of the cut, when full-width slotting, does not matter. When not full-width slotting (cutting on only one side of the bit), climb cutting and conventional cutting can both be used in different applications.
@@xenonram It does absolutely matter, especially when you are forcing the bit for speed, like he is doing in the video. Not to mention that he also said he had a semi-dull bit.
Not a very good test since you were going the wrong direction with the router. The bit was grabbing and pulling the guide bearing away from stud causing it to feed itself into more wood and straining the router.
Holy crap batman! This router is amazing. I just got mine the other day and it is worth every penny. I love how u ran it on the plywood. Im always curious but not as brave with my tools. Nice to know that this tool has the right stuff baby!
It sounded very rough to me, like he was kicking the crap out of it, "let the tool do the work" springs to mind, that would put serious strains on the motor and I cannot see it lasting very long.
Good video, very powerful router. Since your healt is very important to us -you are keeping our sanity at this crazy days, so please: use your dust mask - all the dust from the router flew on your face. Take care and be 💪
Tool reviews Zone does a great video on the new Makita bets even he said that the new Makita bits number 2 fit so much tighter and are very strong they're supposedly the new bit to buy and use
It looks like u are using the wrong tool for the job, I'd rather use a skill saw or recip saw, as a means to quickly cut the board as close to the timber as possible then use the router only as clean up trim work, to finalise any rough surfaces left by saw, which would get the job quicker and end up looking just as neat, if not almost perfect!
That's the way it should be done and it would be quicker. Measure up, cut to size, clean up the edge with a trimmer bit. This guy is either a dead set amateur or he's trying to kill Milwaukee gear. Oh n yes, too much loud crap music at the start. I nearly turned it off.
That’s painful to watch. You were going the wrong direction cutting out the opening. Go clockwise. We use those all the time to cut out sheeting in openings.
Also I like how real this is. I agree with the other comment about wanting more videos like this. Show us the real stuff y’all use this for. Also do a “real” video with the fuel brad nailer. That thing has been incredible for me it was everything the reviews have been saying.
Great demo~! I just picked one up during the Home Depot sale: $299 for the dual batt pack w/ charger and the free trim router. What a great deal~!! I haven't used it yet and I've seen a couple disappointing videos about the depth adjustment moving while in use, but I'm hoping that it won't be a problem. Looking forward to putting this little beast to work~!
Andrew, you won’t have a problem with the depth adjustment moving on you. The guy who made those ridiculous videos didn’t know how to use a router. There’s a screw to tighten the clamp. I would suggest snugging that up a tad. Don’t over tighten, just get it nice and snug. In addition, I never try to adjust my router when it’s clamped tight. Milwaukee makes a couple of attachments, a plunge base and an offset base. Both are very cool. The offset base is somewhat unique to Milwaukee. They’re approximately $115 each and I highly recommend both! You’re going to love this router! It’s much lighter than the Dewalt. They use some very nice materials. Check out Richard’s recent video (Finish Carpentry TV) where he and John use 2 Milwaukee M18 Fuel Routers to bevel over 2 miles of hardwood flooring. Do you think he’d be able to do this with a defective router? He is one of the finest trim carpenters in RUclips. If he gives the thumbs up…then you’re good to go. Not the same case with some knucklehead with an ax to grind. 😉
@@martylucas8557 Thanks for the reply~! This sounds like about what I expected. I actually had to loosen the base clamp a tad because it was crazy tight out of the box. I've seen where being too tight has cracked the cast aluminum tabs on some other demos. I've now tested it on some scrap pieces with a few different bits and I'm not seeing any of the problems shown in his video. I'll definitely check out Richard's video on this. Love his channel and his work and I've picked up Dewaukee & a Dewaukita shirts from him. 🙂 Thanks again for the informed response~!
@@andrewbrown8148, you bet! I was waiting for someone to bring that guys video up in a comment 😉! Ha! If you read the comments, I believe I left him a not so nice response to his video, about 5 or 6 months ago. The Home Depot deal with the two 6 amp batteries is a great deal! It would’ve been an even better deal if they would’ve included a Rapid Charger. Which I feel they should have considering the package they’re selling. That’s great you’re a sub to Richard’s channel! His shirts are cool! You reminded me that I need to order a couple myself. Take care
Got the router Love it Great micro adjustment, and lots of power. Been using in kitchen making for led slots and rounding corners. Only one drawback for Milwaukee tools they heat up alot compared with other major brands
I think it showed plenty of power. At first the old drywaller in me came out as I was thinking inside cut, rout clockwise but then I realized it wasn’t a rotozip but a bit with a bearing,. My apologies as I know tracking was not your priority of the demonstration. It’s been a long few weeks, lol. There was a definite change in pitch once noticing the speed might have been bumped thus making us cognitive of that might happening when using the tool in such a manner. An impressive tool that still got it done despite the lowered speed, bit, or combination of the two. Hardly the expert here so I always appreciate the real world application and honest reviews you and the crew give on your channel. As always, hoping a speedy solution of the current situation we are all in right now. For everyone, be smart, be kind, don’t panic. Stay safe.
Interesting router cut job. I agree you must have had a dull bit Vinny although your Milwaukee sounded healthy & strong throughout! Myself, I have the newest along with the first version of Rigid's 18V cordless routers. I usually use 4ah batteries with them & I VERY much like the both of them. They have served me well & are fairly strong & smooth!
I had just recently seen something that said if your cutting outside like an outlet, or can lights with a router or cutoff tool, to go in a counter clockwise motion... cutting to the inside of an opening like doorways and windows, run it clockwise -
Hey Vince 👋😊😊👍 Not bad for your channel. I made top 10 in hitting the LIKE BUTTON !!! #3 to comment !!! I hope you're doing well and say Hi to the Mrs. btw my Bday is less than a month away and I would love to have a VCG magnet or stjcker? My 5 drawer cart is still a virgin (no magnet or stickers) Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos Rodney
VCG great work and display but please, pretty please, where is your ear/hearing protections. Throughout the cut your decibels where above levels causing possible damage. We enjoy watching, so try to remember you want to hear as well as we do at our age.
We would usually just cut the sheet to size before installation, but we’ve been asked multiple times to do the video. Using the router does give a very exact fit to the doorway.
might want to try going the proper direction when cutting with a router, its not a roto zip. also that much load on a cordless router with a 1/2 in bit is just too much.. just use the circular saw. think about how much time you would have saved.. not to mention the amount of dust a 1/2 in bit creates.. i use a cordless router all the time, mainly for laminates and small applications..
Great demonstration Vince I'm trying to get my hands on the m18 router I do have the dewalt 20v max router though at the moment will get the m18 when its back in stock
Buddy, you're cutting in the wrong direction. That's why the router fought you the entire time. The direction of the spin of the bit causes it to want to pull outward away from your guide (the stud) when going one way or into it going the other way. Learning this will help you tremendously. Perfect example of working smarter not harder. Learning how to use your tools properly is key. Otherwise, you and the tool are both better off apart.
I have used the Ryobi for trim and lamenite. I love it. I have m18 tools but couldn't beat the deal I got for the Ryobi. Router, glue stick gun, and sander for $70. Also the router and planer have the same features as the M18 ones
@VCG Construction I would have trimmed with a sawzall then used the trim router but that's just me looked like alot of labor using the router by itself I'm sure you agree Vince.
Everyone is harping on the direction of the cut. Yes, there are two sides of the story on this, and you can cut with a router bit in all directions. However, when using it for large production work, where speed is an issue, direction of travel is essential. When using a router in a shop setting it can be used to cut in both directions, although there is a precision cut direction even in that setting.
OSB and plywood are really hard for router bits, I have a corded Makita and stalling is pretty normal especially when doing deep grooves (saw dust build up) though mainly because putting a shop vac ring is such a hassle and you don't really care about saw dust on floors that much in a woodworking shop.
That’s why Milwaukee M18 Fuel Router is the better choice vs Makita. If you noticed, Vince didn’t stall out once, even with a dull blade. Check out Finish Carpentry TV’s RUclips Channel. Richard’s most current video showcases the Milwaukee Router. He and John bevel over 2 miles of hardwood with two Milwaukee Fuel Routers. It just feels good in the hand. When paired with a 3 amp HO battery, it’s not only lightweight, but extremely powerful.
Black Friday 2022 two 5.0 charger and tool choice hmmm I was thinking about getting a new cordless router which one Milwaukee m18 or Dewalt 6.0, 4.0 charger and XR router??????
I have a Ryobi palm router and only use it for small trimming or small details... Wouldnt it be easier to cut that piece before installing it? The M18 sure is powerful but not for that purpose right? Awesome channel, learned a lot from you guys, thanks!
Usually works best when you would go clockwise and let the tool do the work vs forcing it to work backwards should’ve started at the bottom went up to top then over just a heads up
i own mostly dewalt tools only a few ridgid and one of them is the router beacause they came out with it first and it doesnt look half as powerful as that it sometimes shuts off trimming 1/4 ply i mostly use it to round over ripped edges
1, wrong direction. 2, I know you said that’s was the only bit you had available but a spiral bit would cut much better. 3, too much force. Let the bit do the cutting. Too much force means heavier chip load which means more heat which means burnt out bit. You still could of made the cut going counterclockwise if you slowed down a lot more. Love the vids!
I actually am thinking of buying one of these--I understand that Dewalt is the best but I am afraid it might be too big for my hands and I thought I would like to try a couple of the Milwaukee cordless tools and one of these would be the router. In this test it seem like the Milwaukee was like a poor wounded animal. I am not so sure I would use it on that particular kind of wood as it looks like it would be hard to cut through.
How do you think it would do cutting OSB for windows and door cutouts? (Framing) We use a sawzall but I have seen people use corded routers to cutout windows etc. But I'm curious if cordless could be quicker
Try doing that with a spiral flush trim router bit, the straight bits aren't as good at taking away a lot of material, the spiral carries it away better. The way you are doing it isn't fair to Milwaukee. The router looks like its eating it up, but routers bits like that are for detail work where you come at it in little tiny bites, try testing it with a spiral bit and I bet what you are doing goes a lot better. The purpose of the flat bit is when you get it close ( like with a sawzall ) and then want to make it flush, you really want there not to be a lot of excess material. Yes direction matters, but when you are going in commando like that not too much, normally though you get a cleaner cut when you take away little bites. They also are a lot less dangerous as they are less likely to grab the material like a straight bit ( that is why direction of cut matters when you are cutting just one side ). There are some videos showing the bits kicking back in slow motion. ( not an expert in any sense )
I have makita trim router, and I personally just dont think they're designed for that, also I'm sure it didnt help with the pan head screws sticking out and not allowing u to set the base flat against the osb, maybe it would help to screw the perimeter of the door after, but I just dont think a 1/4 inch router is designed to hog out so much material at once.
What can I say.. NEVER carry out any cut that is greater than the shank of the router cutter, you’re asking trouble.. give the machine AND the cutter a chance.. why not cut the board BEFORE you fix it??.. as said by others you just need to work out when and how to use this great piece of kit👍
The milwaukee router is one of the best but if the depth of the bit isn't dialed in properly you get that horrible noise of the bit binding up on the 2by4 has nothing to do with the rotation it's simply too deep and the portion of the bit that guides you is no longer guiding its actually cutting thru 2 different materials one softer the osb and one harder the 2by4 remedy this by adjusting the depth of the bit so just the tip is only about 3/8" out of the osb now smash the like button it's free
As I am very interested in this router and ideally want all of my shop battery operated tools to be in one brand family, I have one question - stability. How stable is this router in light of its small base? Wouldn't it be helpful if Milwaukee designed a base similar to DeWalt's?
To the usual armchair -trades workers- "makers": The direction of the cut, when full-width slotting, does not matter. When not full-width slotting, climb cutting and conventional cutting can both be used in different applications.
Andrew Delashaw climb cutting is used as a finishing cut but I need to be done at a couple .001 at a time!!!!
Yes it does matter. Coming from a machinist, same principles apply.
The direction of the cut always matters. Regardless of the material of cut, the direction always matters.
@@bwojak3226 100% that’s exactly why the cutter swerves off away from the stud at 6:04 👌
@@bwojak3226 You could hear the difference in the noise and how much better the machine worked when the machine was used going forwards,and also how much smoother it worked,yet he never picked up on it !
The router is a great tool, when used properly! I'm sorry but it was a torture watching you do that...
this is how this guy is with literally EVERYTHING he touches. Sadly he destroys and abusing everything he touches. I just don't get it. I mean literally destroys everything. Pressing down so hard on that thing and in the wrong direction lol. He does at least admit though he breaks everything.
We call them cowboys here in the uk . I use the makita half inch router , and would never cut anything deeper than a 3mm pass . Your tool will last longer for starters , and if the routers doesnt like something reduce cutting depth simple . He's a idiot .
That is good router ,he don't know how use it ,cutting backwards the whole time,
He must be punished.
@@srt4fan4u2 I watch his videos because he is so rough on his tools. Its a true test of their capacity
The router is perfect you just need to learn how to use it 👍😂
Hey Vince, try the router direction the other way. The router will automatically press himself on the wood behind and will not wabble out every centimeter. Sorry for my bad english
Apart from the router jumping all over when using it backwards he did not even pick up on the difference in noise and how much better/smoother it worked/sounded when using it in a clockwise direction !
Going the wrong way for tha router. That’s why is so hard for you.
Clock wise inside counter clockwise outside
Direction doesn’t matter when slotting at tools diameter. It’s buried either way.
@@bwojak3226 Exactly. That's why when he made the second cuts to remove the part that was kicked out, the blade cut even better.
God, when people go the wrong way with the routers, it's painful to watch. Its Like painting with the handle
@@HaloGamer401, you don’t ‘now what you’re talking about. It absolutely does matter what direction you cut. Go back to gaming and leave the woodworking to the pros.
Also I have this router and I absolutely love it.. Milwaukee hit a homerun on this one.. now if they would only drop the framing nailer: )
When installing kitchens I like to do plywood just where the upper cabinets are going makes it so much more easier when storing cabinets been trying to find a stud
The guys and I loooooovvvvveee the Fuel router! I had bought a cordless dewalt too, and it's also great, but much bulkier and the micro adjustments aren't nearly as effortless and spot on. Still use the crap out of it though. I do not have the makita, but i have used one (one of my men has it as his personal shop router) it seems Milwaukee did some homework, using a few makita designs, but made a better overall package. I'm very impressed with all of our newest cordless tools to be honest. We used to spend an hour seting up and an hour shutting down. Wrapping cords, hoses, moving compressors, generators, shoving tools with cords back in hard cases, etc. Every single day....We still do some of that when we don't have our temp A.C. power. Mainly just when doing our framing. But man, not nearly what it used to be. If we wanted to lug around hitachi framers all day, we COULD be completely cordless. The downside is, as codes change, and another Simpson strongtie something or another is required, there goes the convenience and speed of the job overall, because now we're buying another task specific tool.
Still, we're not being slowed down by power cords and hoses on small tools. I'm super excited to see what the future holds in store for the trades!
Yo thanks for the content @VCG Construction 🤙 beasts! 💪
Have you tried the ridgid?
@@seasgarage no I sure haven't. It looks like a solid piece of equipment for the price though. Closest home depot to us is 45 min. I usually buy all of our tools from local plumbing, and electrical suppliers, a specialty concrete supply house, and smaller lumberyards. Some very good deals and customer service is top notch.
Unfortunately yellow and red is pretty well the majority of what we have. Recently a concrete tool supplier has gained makita so I'm looking forward to checking new offerings out there. I do love my ridgid hand plumbing tools. I think that is separate from ridgid power tools however.
Maybe someone with hands on experience can chime in on that router.. 🤜
@kingofthecrease30 got any info on the ridgid router?
Love my Milwaukee router I use everyday. Use everyday cutting and trimming corian love it.
Love mine so far, only used it to mortise hinges but it works great! Hope you are all staying safe, and as busy as you can during all of this craziness! Love the work!
Damn here 200$ only to do a couple damn hinges 😞
I have this and love it. I use it almost on a daily basis, I make rustic American Flags and use it to rout the stars and all the logos I put on them.
That’s VCG Construction for you. Going counter clockwise instead the right way which is CLOCKWISE
Just bought this today. Absolutely love it!!!
Vince the type, when she says stick it in slow..he goes balls out (no pun intended) 😂😂
I just picked one up yesterday. Did some rab cuts for a project. I love it for the size and power.
I bought this router, but have not used it yet. One of the drawbacks of apartment living. LOL
Matthew Davidson lool
ROFL! But you gotta have that TOOL!
Techno Tard
Absolutely! I just spent 8 years in an apartment and have always used my compound miter saw, circular saw, jig saw, numerous drills, etc. all in my living room to build several desks, stands, tables, shelves, etc. and nobody even says anything to me. Just because one lives in an apartment doesn’t mean that they aren’t allowed to own quality power tools lol.
I 100% empathize with your situation. Find a project and tell your neighbors to suck it!
I feel like screaming into my phone! BACKWARDS! CLOCKWISE!
Same here dude
The direction of the cut, when full-width slotting, does not matter. When not full-width slotting (cutting on only one side of the bit), climb cutting and conventional cutting can both be used in different applications.
@@xenonram It does absolutely matter, especially when you are forcing the bit for speed, like he is doing in the video. Not to mention that he also said he had a semi-dull bit.
Jeremiah Mckenna it deffo matters, no doubt about it!
For a pro. Not so pro. It only works clockwise
Just got my Milwaukee router I love the thing it is like you said a beast
Hearing it scream your killing me. Clockwise man clockwise!
Not a very good test since you were going the wrong direction with the router. The bit was grabbing and pulling the guide bearing away from stud causing it to feed itself into more wood and straining the router.
Holy crap batman! This router is amazing. I just got mine the other day and it is worth every penny. I love how u ran it on the plywood. Im always curious but not as brave with my tools. Nice to know that this tool has the right stuff baby!
It sounded very rough to me, like he was kicking the crap out of it, "let the tool do the work" springs to mind, that would put serious strains on the motor and I cannot see it lasting very long.
Man I was enjoying the music with the build out. Actually pretty bad a$$
Are we so bored we can watch hours of framing video content? Lol I think so.
🤣🤣👍🏻
LOL!!!
Hearing protection does work. May want to hear the grandkids one day. Thanks for the info.
Good video, very powerful router. Since your healt is very important to us -you are keeping our sanity at this crazy days, so please: use your dust mask - all the dust from the router flew on your face. Take care and be 💪
This guy was cutting that plywood with the router the wrong direction. You always go clockwise. Haha that’s hilarious
Tool reviews Zone does a great video on the new Makita bets even he said that the new Makita bits number 2 fit so much tighter and are very strong they're supposedly the new bit to buy and use
It's on my required list! Thanks for the great quick video. Note to self....keep sharp blades stocked!
It looks like u are using the wrong tool for the job, I'd rather use a skill saw or recip saw, as a means to quickly cut the board as close to the timber as possible then use the router only as clean up trim work, to finalise any rough surfaces left by saw, which would get the job quicker and end up looking just as neat, if not almost perfect!
Jake Lewis he knows that. He just wanted to show the power of the router with a bad bit. And I have to say it definitely was a power house.
you took the words right out of my mouth mate. Idont think any other trades men working around you would appreciate the unnecessary noise
@@red-lb3lq c'mon framers aren't considerate not fooling me lol
That's the way it should be done and it would be quicker. Measure up, cut to size, clean up the edge with a trimmer bit. This guy is either a dead set amateur or he's trying to kill Milwaukee gear. Oh n yes, too much loud crap music at the start. I nearly turned it off.
That’s painful to watch. You were going the wrong direction cutting out the opening. Go clockwise. We use those all the time to cut out sheeting in openings.
Right! Like you could see when he did go clock wise a little bit the router damn near drives it self after that.
Gang this a great video watching you guys in your trade is awesome please make more of these so we can learn from VCG University
Thanks Guy, will do! 👍🏻
That with a down spiral would breeeeeze it! Love the videos all the way in the UK fella!
Also I like how real this is. I agree with the other comment about wanting more videos like this. Show us the real stuff y’all use this for. Also do a “real” video with the fuel brad nailer. That thing has been incredible for me it was everything the reviews have been saying.
Great demo~! I just picked one up during the Home Depot sale: $299 for the dual batt pack w/ charger and the free trim router. What a great deal~!! I haven't used it yet and I've seen a couple disappointing videos about the depth adjustment moving while in use, but I'm hoping that it won't be a problem. Looking forward to putting this little beast to work~!
Andrew, you won’t have a problem with the depth adjustment moving on you. The guy who made those ridiculous videos didn’t know how to use a router. There’s a screw to tighten the clamp. I would suggest snugging that up a tad. Don’t over tighten, just get it nice and snug. In addition, I never try to adjust my router when it’s clamped tight.
Milwaukee makes a couple of attachments, a plunge base and an offset base. Both are very cool. The offset base is somewhat unique to Milwaukee. They’re approximately $115 each and I highly recommend both!
You’re going to love this router! It’s much lighter than the Dewalt. They use some very nice materials. Check out Richard’s recent video (Finish Carpentry TV) where he and John use 2 Milwaukee M18 Fuel Routers to bevel over 2 miles of hardwood flooring. Do you think he’d be able to do this with a defective router? He is one of the finest trim carpenters in RUclips. If he gives the thumbs up…then you’re good to go. Not the same case with some knucklehead with an ax to grind. 😉
@@martylucas8557 Thanks for the reply~! This sounds like about what I expected. I actually had to loosen the base clamp a tad because it was crazy tight out of the box. I've seen where being too tight has cracked the cast aluminum tabs on some other demos. I've now tested it on some scrap pieces with a few different bits and I'm not seeing any of the problems shown in his video.
I'll definitely check out Richard's video on this. Love his channel and his work and I've picked up Dewaukee & a Dewaukita shirts from him. 🙂
Thanks again for the informed response~!
@@andrewbrown8148, you bet! I was waiting for someone to bring that guys video up in a comment 😉! Ha! If you read the comments, I believe I left him a not so nice response to his video, about 5 or 6 months ago.
The Home Depot deal with the two 6 amp batteries is a great deal! It would’ve been an even better deal if they would’ve included a Rapid Charger. Which I feel they should have considering the package they’re selling.
That’s great you’re a sub to Richard’s channel! His shirts are cool! You reminded me that I need to order a couple myself.
Take care
Router phenomal just make sure you put a high output battery on it!!
Milwaukee m18 drywall router is amazing as well as the m18 fuel Router
Got the router
Love it
Great micro adjustment, and lots of power.
Been using in kitchen making for led slots and rounding corners.
Only one drawback for Milwaukee tools they heat up alot compared with other major brands
They work great for doors as well. Makes hinges and strike plates a breeze
I think it showed plenty of power. At first the old drywaller in me came out as I was thinking inside cut, rout clockwise but then I realized it wasn’t a rotozip but a bit with a bearing,. My apologies as I know tracking was not your priority of the demonstration. It’s been a long few weeks, lol. There was a definite change in pitch once noticing the speed might have been bumped thus making us cognitive of that might happening when using the tool in such a manner. An impressive tool that still got it done despite the lowered speed, bit, or combination of the two. Hardly the expert here so I always appreciate the real world application and honest reviews you and the crew give on your channel. As always, hoping a speedy solution of the current situation we are all in right now. For everyone, be smart, be kind, don’t panic. Stay safe.
Hi Tim, hope you and the family are well! Take it easy my friend!
Keep up the great job! Have a good night! 👍🧰👍🌜🌝🌛
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I have Makita router and Milwaukee as well, in my opinion is same quality. Milwaukee is my favourite
Interesting router cut job. I agree you must have had a dull bit Vinny although your Milwaukee sounded healthy & strong throughout! Myself, I have the newest along with the first version of Rigid's 18V cordless routers. I usually use 4ah batteries with them & I VERY much like the both of them. They have served me well & are fairly strong & smooth!
Is it easy to sharpen router bits?
I had just recently seen something that said if your cutting outside like an outlet, or can lights with a router or cutoff tool, to go in a counter clockwise motion... cutting to the inside of an opening like doorways and windows, run it clockwise -
Good to see results in the field. Had my eyes on this router for a few months now, def about to pull the trigger now! Thanks VCG
That thing is a BEAST 💪 can't wait for the Kobalt one to hit stores I need a cordless router for sure
Just got my cobalt one today
What would be better to use to cut Plywood cutout yard decorations between a router and a jigsaw??
Great video! Can’t wait to see it finished!
Hey Vince 👋😊😊👍
Not bad for your channel. I made top 10 in hitting the LIKE BUTTON !!! #3 to comment !!! I hope you're doing well and say Hi to the Mrs. btw my Bday is less than a month away and I would love to have a VCG magnet or stjcker? My 5 drawer cart is still a virgin (no magnet or stickers) Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos Rodney
I own it. I love it.
VCG great work and display but please, pretty please, where is your ear/hearing protections. Throughout the cut your decibels where above levels causing possible damage. We enjoy watching, so try to remember you want to hear as well as we do at our age.
No mask either. He was sucking in a lot of saw dust.
Thats why he talks so loud😂
im not an expert in carpentry but im just asking....why not use a jig saw or the hackzall to make those straight cuts on plywood ?
We would usually just cut the sheet to size before installation, but we’ve been asked multiple times to do the video. Using the router does give a very exact fit to the doorway.
@@VCGConstruction ok..sounds good 👍
might want to try going the proper direction when cutting with a router, its not a roto zip. also that much load on a cordless router with a 1/2 in bit is just too much.. just use the circular saw. think about how much time you would have saved.. not to mention the amount of dust a 1/2 in bit creates.. i use a cordless router all the time, mainly for laminates and small applications..
Great demonstration Vince I'm trying to get my hands on the m18 router I do have the dewalt 20v max router though at the moment will get the m18 when its back in stock
Hey Vince can you do a comparison video of every bit brand and model and rate them from worst to first
For doors and windows always go clockwise
Buddy, you're cutting in the wrong direction. That's why the router fought you the entire time. The direction of the spin of the bit causes it to want to pull outward away from your guide (the stud) when going one way or into it going the other way. Learning this will help you tremendously. Perfect example of working smarter not harder. Learning how to use your tools properly is key. Otherwise, you and the tool are both better off apart.
Try the ryobi trim router and give us a review
No way they gonna review a non makita milwaukee DeWalt brand
PrimeTech NL huh? New to the show?
I have used the Ryobi for trim and lamenite. I love it. I have m18 tools but couldn't beat the deal I got for the Ryobi. Router, glue stick gun, and sander for $70. Also the router and planer have the same features as the M18 ones
@VCG Construction I would have trimmed with a sawzall then used the trim router but that's just me looked like alot of labor using the router by itself I'm sure you agree Vince.
I do it all for the #VeryCoolGang !
The gangs happy !!! Vince
Except the ryobi fans lol
I was gonna buy 1 Sunday but my Depot didn't have any . Got a corded Ryobi instead .
Everyone is harping on the direction of the cut. Yes, there are two sides of the story on this, and you can cut with a router bit in all directions. However, when using it for large production work, where speed is an issue, direction of travel is essential. When using a router in a shop setting it can be used to cut in both directions, although there is a precision cut direction even in that setting.
OSB and plywood are really hard for router bits, I have a corded Makita and stalling is pretty normal especially when doing deep grooves (saw dust build up) though mainly because putting a shop vac ring is such a hassle and you don't really care about saw dust on floors that much in a woodworking shop.
That’s why Milwaukee M18 Fuel Router is the better choice vs Makita. If you noticed, Vince didn’t stall out once, even with a dull blade. Check out Finish Carpentry TV’s RUclips Channel. Richard’s most current video showcases the Milwaukee Router. He and John bevel over 2 miles of hardwood with two Milwaukee Fuel Routers.
It just feels good in the hand. When paired with a 3 amp HO battery, it’s not only lightweight, but extremely powerful.
Man glitter! I love it thanks VCG. Another great video. Can't wait to get my hands on this router.
That's a very nice piece of kit.
Ok, I am placing one on order.
aside from cutting plywood like it's drywall these portable routers are amazing when used correctly
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Black Friday 2022 two 5.0 charger and tool choice hmmm I was thinking about getting a new cordless router which one Milwaukee m18 or Dewalt 6.0, 4.0 charger and XR router??????
Beast mode!
Sweet. Good Vid Broski
Thank you Justin!!
I have a Ryobi palm router and only use it for small trimming or small details... Wouldnt it be easier to cut that piece before installing it?
The M18 sure is powerful but not for that purpose right?
Awesome channel, learned a lot from you guys, thanks!
Its usually really fast and clean using a router, a lot of people do it that way.
He was using it wrong lol, hence the drowning cats sound
Diablo also makes a flush trim bit without a bearing, however I'm not sure if u can get that style for a 1/4 inch shank
1/4 panel pilot router bit, I could only find one for the 1/4 inch shank it might work a bit better for yah
@vgc hey vince do you know if milwaukee is going to come out with an edge guide for the router? Could definitely come in handy for certain things?
Usually works best when you would go clockwise and let the tool do the work vs forcing it to work backwards should’ve started at the bottom went up to top then over just a heads up
Can you use ti With drywall
i own mostly dewalt tools only a few ridgid and one of them is the router beacause they came out with it first and it doesnt look half as powerful as that it sometimes shuts off trimming 1/4 ply i mostly use it to round over ripped edges
1, wrong direction. 2, I know you said that’s was the only bit you had available but a spiral bit would cut much better. 3, too much force. Let the bit do the cutting. Too much force means heavier chip load which means more heat which means burnt out bit. You still could of made the cut going counterclockwise if you slowed down a lot more. Love the vids!
Woulda worked better if Vince would've went around clockwise
@vcgconstruction did the micro adjustment move on you while using the tool?
Vice I believe you should start from bottom left of door
Sold...thx for the video
Just imagine. Thease are the guys who built your house !
You never even noticed that it was easier when you push up instead of pushing it down the wrong way smh Dude!
I have those same gloves and glasses
I actually am thinking of buying one of these--I understand that Dewalt is the best but I am afraid it might be too big for my hands and I thought I would like to try a couple of the Milwaukee cordless tools and one of these would be the router. In this test it seem like the Milwaukee was like a poor wounded animal. I am not so sure I would use it on that particular kind of wood as it looks like it would be hard to cut through.
I love Milwaukee tools
Just had to get one! But I haven't used it yet...
How do you think it would do cutting OSB for windows and door cutouts? (Framing) We use a sawzall but I have seen people use corded routers to cutout windows etc. But I'm curious if cordless could be quicker
Try doing that with a spiral flush trim router bit, the straight bits aren't as good at taking away a lot of material, the spiral carries it away better. The way you are doing it isn't fair to Milwaukee.
The router looks like its eating it up, but routers bits like that are for detail work where you come at it in little tiny bites, try testing it with a spiral bit and I bet what you are doing goes a lot better. The purpose of the flat bit is when you get it close ( like with a sawzall ) and then want to make it flush, you really want there not to be a lot of excess material. Yes direction matters, but when you are going in commando like that not too much, normally though you get a cleaner cut when you take away little bites.
They also are a lot less dangerous as they are less likely to grab the material like a straight bit ( that is why direction of cut matters when you are cutting just one side ). There are some videos showing the bits kicking back in slow motion.
( not an expert in any sense )
Great video as always! I bought the plunge base for mine. It’s pretty sweet!
Pimp.
I have makita trim router, and I personally just dont think they're designed for that, also I'm sure it didnt help with the pan head screws sticking out and not allowing u to set the base flat against the osb, maybe it would help to screw the perimeter of the door after, but I just dont think a 1/4 inch router is designed to hog out so much material at once.
What can I say.. NEVER carry out any cut that is greater than the shank of the router cutter, you’re asking trouble.. give the machine AND the cutter a chance.. why not cut the board BEFORE you fix it??.. as said by others you just need to work out when and how to use this great piece of kit👍
Why do you have vertical seems lined up in the first clip Vince
Love the videos. Great energy. Best tool channel on RUclips.
The m18 router is hard to find most stores are sold out of them weekly 😫
If my boss saw that guy working like that, he,d be gone on day one,,,
Pretty shit boss if his not willing to teach them the proper way
@@davo7512 That was exactly my thought.....
Got one a few weeks ago. It surprised me.
What can it do with 1/8” aluminum?
The only shocking thing in this video is the man pretending to know what he's doing
love mine
Love the content
Thanks Robbie, we appreciate it!
The milwaukee router is one of the best but if the depth of the bit isn't dialed in properly you get that horrible noise of the bit binding up on the 2by4 has nothing to do with the rotation it's simply too deep and the portion of the bit that guides you is no longer guiding its actually cutting thru 2 different materials one softer the osb and one harder the 2by4 remedy this by adjusting the depth of the bit so just the tip is only about 3/8" out of the osb now smash the like button it's free
As I am very interested in this router and ideally want all of my shop battery operated tools to be in one brand family, I have one question - stability. How stable is this router in light of its small base? Wouldn't it be helpful if Milwaukee designed a base similar to DeWalt's?