Anbernic RG35XX SP Review

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
  • In this video, we review the Anbernic RG35XX SP, a portable and powerful handheld console for retro gaming. Explore its design, performance, and key features, including its clamshell form factor and extensive game compatibility. We’ll provide a detailed analysis of its build quality, battery life, and user experience to help you decide if this device is right for your gaming needs. Watch for an in-depth gameplay demonstration and our final verdict on the Anbernic RG35XX SP.
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    📖Chapters
    00:00 - Intro
    00:37 - Price and Specs
    01:40 - Battery life
    02:08 - Plastic feel
    02:25 - Hinge
    02:50 - Battery
    03:20 - Buttons
    03:50 - D pad
    04:31 - Other buttons
    04:42 - Ergonomics
    05:20 - Screen
    05:56 - Speaker
    06:33 - Size
    07:20 - Operating system
    07:35 - Game room
    07:57 - RA game
    09:01 - Music player
    09:23 - Video player
    09:44 - Apps in App center
    10:14 - File management apps
    10:29 - System settings
    10:45 - Thoughts on the stock OS
    11:31 - TV Play
    12:52 - N64
    13:12 - Dreamcast
    13:40 - PSP
    14:12 - What games play the best
    15:02 - DS
    15:19 - Conclusion
    Thanks for Watching!
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Комментарии • 145

  • @AishTalksTech
    @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +8

    After the video I added 3 layers of masking tape to the dome switches and it dramatically reduces the button and dpad noise.
    Update
    2 layes on the dpad dome switches and 2 on the buttons has been the best so far.

    • @soupnazi81
      @soupnazi81 26 дней назад

      Does it make buttons more stiff /harder to press? My main concern is button fatigue over longer sessions since I heard stock they are a bit stiff

    • @akirahawk
      @akirahawk 26 дней назад

      How difficult was it to open up and close three device?

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад +1

      It makes it feel tighter but it actually takes less pressure to press them.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад

      It's really easy to open up, one of the easiest to tear down from Anbernic.

    • @seethruhead7119
      @seethruhead7119 24 дня назад

      why would you want to reduce the sound
      we out here buying controllers with omron switches for a reason

  • @Pridetoons
    @Pridetoons 27 дней назад +18

    MY NEXT CHECK, THIS HANDHELD, LET'S GO!!!

    • @nickentros
      @nickentros 27 дней назад

      Yo if you’re living check to check….maybe dont waste money on retro handhelds

    • @JosephTheRocker
      @JosephTheRocker 27 дней назад +3

      ​@@nickentrospeople generally budget based off their checks week to week, nothing wrong with waiting for the next one. Doesn't automatically deem someone as too poor for their hobbies

    • @supermugiboy
      @supermugiboy 26 дней назад +1

      Same here.

    • @Frankapotimus
      @Frankapotimus 26 дней назад +1

      @@nickentrosyeah dude why assume? He didn’t ask either lmao let the man live

  • @leeharris5135
    @leeharris5135 27 дней назад +8

    I’ve ordered the transparent black. I haven’t bought an Anbernic device since the RG353P but I had to buy this. I’m obsessed with the GBA SP.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      Transparente black was my first choice since it looks like my GBA sp, but the blue really grew on me.

    • @leeharris5135
      @leeharris5135 27 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech I’m a sucker for black handhelds. The transparent black matches my 353P.

    • @crypto7365
      @crypto7365 10 дней назад

      Ordered also the black one ❤

  • @JaviPlayRetro
    @JaviPlayRetro 7 дней назад

    Your videos always have the cleanest aesthetic. Great job

  • @crystal_is_cozy
    @crystal_is_cozy 27 дней назад +4

    This video was so chill to watch/listen to. Thanks, friend!

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +2

      I like to go for the chill vibes, I'm glad I was successful 😆

    • @crystal_is_cozy
      @crystal_is_cozy 27 дней назад +1

      @@AishTalksTech yeah, absolutely nailed it

  • @meghanjames565
    @meghanjames565 2 дня назад

    Great review with some helpful information and tips.

  • @SirWendallGame
    @SirWendallGame 21 день назад

    Getting my transparent black SP this Thursday! It'll be my first Anbernic device! I'm excited 😀

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  21 день назад +1

      It's a solid one to start out with.

  • @benpregent
    @benpregent 27 дней назад +1

    Great review Aish! My blue one is on the way.

    • @PianoMan10-4
      @PianoMan10-4 27 дней назад

      How did you get it to ship so soon! I’ve been waiting for mine to start shipping since launch morning, ten minutes after it launched!

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it

    • @benpregent
      @benpregent 27 дней назад

      @@PianoMan10-4 Purchased it on the Aliexpress store pretty much the minute pre-orders started. Some people on reddit already received theirs

  • @retrohandhelds
    @retrohandhelds 27 дней назад +3

    Fantastic review my friend! Man I want to try that blue in person.

  • @NeoSpartan117
    @NeoSpartan117 27 дней назад +1

    Great video Aish! Looking forward to getting mine, but hope somebody figures out a good mod to help improve those buttons.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      I'm sure there's going to be some kind of fix, I'm trying to find one myself.

    • @DarianWade
      @DarianWade 27 дней назад

      ​@@AishTalksTech I heard in another review that you'd probably have to resolder some new, softer switches on since they're not just rubber membranes. I'm not sure how true that is since I'm not too knowledgeable on componentry, but if so that'd probably make fixing it inaccessible to most

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад

      Normally dome switches are glued on so it wouldn't require soldering, some tape over them helps to dampen the noise but keeps the tactile feel.

  • @Pridetoons
    @Pridetoons 27 дней назад +5

    We NEED an Indigo Color! Get on it Anbernic!!!

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      I'm surprised that wasn't an option out the gate.

    • @Pridetoons
      @Pridetoons 26 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech IKR!!!

  • @chocho2188
    @chocho2188 27 дней назад +2

    That blue looks amazing 😍

  • @djwrahfael
    @djwrahfael 27 дней назад +2

    I think the D-Pad of the GBA Classic was much better than the GBA SP. The clamshell design is the only thing I like in the GBA SP. Nice video dude!

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      Thank you! And I completely agree the GBA dpad is better

  • @Tonysopranoyafinook
    @Tonysopranoyafinook 7 дней назад

    Smash remix is a blast on this. Set up the controls just how you want and spend 4 hours goofin around. I love this thing

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  6 дней назад

      I need to give smash a remix another go

  • @joaquinsanchezarques4484
    @joaquinsanchezarques4484 7 дней назад +1

    I have got blue version 🎉, my first emulation console portable, only play retro in xbox dev mode

  • @kevinmartinez996
    @kevinmartinez996 23 дня назад

    Love your reviews Aish

  • @adhithyaraman
    @adhithyaraman 22 дня назад

    I thought this video was coming on RH. Didn't even know you had a separate channel. Insta-subscribe. Will watch the video later.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  22 дня назад

      Thank you I appreciate it, some of my videos will still go up on RH but for now I'm focusing on growing this channel.

  • @oliwek70
    @oliwek70 26 дней назад

    Hello Aish and thanks. I'm wondering about the consistency of the hardware :
    04:47 about L2 and R2 : retrododo complained that pushes were not always registered if not pushed firmly enough. Did you try with the 'button tester’ window (as in 04:05) opened?
    So sad they don't propose more 4' (or bigger) 4:3 devices.... 3.5' doesn't really cut it for games with small text or an icone-rich interface

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  26 дней назад +1

      I didn't have any input issues with any buttons, and yes I did test all of them.
      Maybe it was his unit ?

    • @oliwek70
      @oliwek70 26 дней назад +1

      @@AishTalksTech good news then, thanks

  • @DerekGonsoulin
    @DerekGonsoulin 27 дней назад +2

    Curious if Anbernic made the buttons stiffer as over time they thought they would wear down. This means they gave themselves a slight issue hoping for a longer lifespan.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      I don't think it was that, they have a tendency to overlook things like that.

  • @zayanahmed6915
    @zayanahmed6915 27 дней назад +1

    Nice to see you again, Aish! absolutely! the GBA SP had my heart and was easy to maintain in terms of pocketablity. I love the blue, personally.
    Great review, Aish. Keep up the good work! ♥️

  • @soupnazi81
    @soupnazi81 25 дней назад

    I like how you go into detail about lack of pivot on the dpad which no one mentions about. The Nintendo Switch Pro controller has no pivot and its not good for fighting games at all. (whole dpad pushes down) I wonder if its possible to add a pivot point by extending the center post on back of dpad?

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад +1

      I've been trying different things with it and found that adding a few layers of tape under the dpad pivot makes a big difference, you can also add a layer or 2 to the dome switches to make them a little quieter.

    • @soupnazi81
      @soupnazi81 25 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech this is excellent to hear. Hopefully Anbernic will make some revision updates. I almost bit during the $6 intro sale but held off since I already have RG35XXH, Trimui Smart Pro, Rgb30 which were on sale. Rg35xxh is identical processor wise but I love the SP form factor. Will wait for Miyoo Flip or Flop to come out to see comparisons.

  • @KenzieBenzieee
    @KenzieBenzieee 6 дней назад

    Do you have to load anime episodes onto it yourself or does it link to an app through the video feature? I think watching Bleach would be fantastic on this, in fact it totally sold me and I bought my own blue version ☺️

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  6 дней назад +1

      You have to load them yourself and use the video app to watch them.

  • @JT.PlaysGames
    @JT.PlaysGames 26 дней назад +1

    I thought I would sit this one out since I already have the 35XX Plus, but the last few hours of the sale, I buckled. My reshelled GBASP 101 was staring in horror at me while I clicked buy now on the transparent blue 35XXSP. I feel shame.

  • @XINN1X
    @XINN1X 26 дней назад

    great video, although why did you keep that part in where you put text saying it was a mistake instead of just cutting it out lol

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  26 дней назад

      That wasn't a mistake 😂 that's how long it took to boot up.

    • @XINN1X
      @XINN1X 26 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech oh lol

  • @soupnazi81
    @soupnazi81 27 дней назад +1

    This is one of the best reviews so far. Concise and you mention how the joystick and c buttons map to the stock controls with the power button toggle.
    Does this come with a Varcarcade system icon with vertical shootem ups like the RG35XXh where it rotates the screen & controls sideways? Wondering if its even comfortable to play this way.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it.
      It does have that but it doesn't rotate by default, I did try to play vertically but it wasn't a good experience so I didn't highlight it.

    • @soupnazi81
      @soupnazi81 27 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech thank you! The chin is a bit long for sideways holding to reach the buttons

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад +1

      Yeah it just felt awkward

    • @soupnazi81
      @soupnazi81 25 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech yeah on my Miyoo Mini Plus it wasn't bad sideways and jist had to use the LR buttons for shooting. With a grip case it was a far reach and not usable. On Miyoo Mini non plus it was decent with a grip case. (the storage case that is also a grip)

  • @semirionu
    @semirionu 18 дней назад

    Do you use 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth controller in the video? I have the same one and was wondering if it would connect to the RG35XX SP.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  18 дней назад

      Yes I'm using the ultimate Bluetooth controller and it pairs right away.

    • @semirionu
      @semirionu 18 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech thanks, great review.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  12 дней назад

      Thank you

  • @Red-in4fx
    @Red-in4fx 26 дней назад

    The blue seems lighter in your vidro compared to others', as well as in product shots. If so then I'm glad I got the black instead.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  26 дней назад

      It could be a difference in the cameras, color profiles used or the lighting, but I'd say it's fairly accurate to what it looks like in person.

  • @Sambucashot100
    @Sambucashot100 26 дней назад

    If the bottoms (buttons error haha) were silent and squishy and there were analogue sticks this device would be pretty perfect.
    Might hold for the Miyoo flip.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  26 дней назад +1

      I'm ok without the analog sticks but I agree on the buttons, unfortunately it looks like the miyoo flip has clicky buttons too.

    • @Sambucashot100
      @Sambucashot100 26 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech Ouch for Miyoo clicky buttons. Hopefully Miyoo look at the little issues that the RG35XX SP has and tries to improve on them. They have said the videos showing online are not of the final version, and the plastic quality will be improved at the least on this device.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад +1

      The plastic definitely looks like it's going to be improved, but the button design looks pretty final.
      I hope they do change it because I'm not a big fan of clicky buttons.

  • @joshuabullard7003
    @joshuabullard7003 27 дней назад

    Aish, which Escaflowne dub do you prefer? Original, Funimation, or just stick with subs?

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      The Funimation one is better but I think I have to go with subs on this one but I can go either way, I watched the original first so I have some rose colored glasses for it.
      Wild card the Latin American dub was great 😂 for some reason Latin American anime dubs made in Mexico are some of the best if not the best in the world.

    • @joshuabullard7003
      @joshuabullard7003 27 дней назад

      Watched the original on Fox kids way back in the day so I definitely have nostalgia for that. The way they pronounce things in the Funimation dub bother me. Specifically Shazar and Dilandou.
      I've heard the Latin American sailor moon dub is way better than the American English.
      Great review btw.

    • @cirmothe9
      @cirmothe9 27 дней назад

      Wow I didn't know escaflowne got redubbed. I think I'll have to watch my old dvds now.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад

      For the most part latin American dubs are better, especially dragon ball. But honestly with escaflowne I'll watch either way, the first time I watched was on fox kids too.
      I remember switching between fox kids and warner brothers Saturday mornings so I could watch digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh, but there were some wild shows on fox kids back then like fighting foodons 😂 good times.

  • @JB-js4xi
    @JB-js4xi 25 дней назад

    Great review!

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад

      Thank you

    • @JB-js4xi
      @JB-js4xi 25 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech I want it. I just spent all day yesterday adding games to my RGB30 and by the time I actually got GOOD at it I was done. I like how you go over all the details carefully. I'm not techie and just downloading and adding roms is almost a nightmare but the payoff is worth it. I always liked GBA SP....sold my regular GBA to get one ..around 2005 I think. Since then I have 3, one with upgraded backlight. Marvelous design and back then we all wore cargo pants and cargo shorts so it was a perfect thing and fit with room to spare and battery life was really good. Still pretty a awesome system. I never liked the og GBA and to this day don't have one in my collection. Yes I do want one of these......dang it.

  • @AngelCopout
    @AngelCopout 27 дней назад

    Bleach looks clean on this! Huh I might actually throw some Ghibli movies on this if I get a large enough card! Or some short anime series like The Big O.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      I know! As soon as I saw how good it looks I started thinking about what I could watch, I know I can do it on my phone but there's something cool about watching it on this

  • @wallmachine8780
    @wallmachine8780 23 дня назад

    can we install standalone mame and run game & watch games? the retroarch mame and handheld electronic core aren't great

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  23 дня назад

      You can't install standalone emulators on the stock OS, but there should be more options with custom firmware.

  • @obsessivefanboy7
    @obsessivefanboy7 4 дня назад

    How did you get Pokemon games for the DS on this? Mine doesn't have any

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  4 дня назад

      You have to add them to the NDS folder, go to RA games and look for DS.

    • @obsessivefanboy7
      @obsessivefanboy7 4 дня назад

      @@AishTalksTech what site did you download them from? I want to use a reliable site

  • @vhsretrogamer1664
    @vhsretrogamer1664 27 дней назад

    Was waiting for this one and once it became available I.. ordered rg35xx plus lol.
    Loud buttons are a huge no no to me

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      The buttons are the big draw back on this one, luckily the plus can do everything this one can.

    • @vhsretrogamer1664
      @vhsretrogamer1664 27 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech yeah. Rg35xx line naming is confusing enough. But if I knew that sp turns out like this I would have bought the plus a while ago. I guess v90 continues to be the best chinese sp at the moment for me. Gotta see if Miyoo actually makes a good one and not something like a30

  • @shinobusensui9395
    @shinobusensui9395 27 дней назад +1

    It's not the GBA I always wanted...
    I just want a slightly bigger GBA with stacked shoulders and Bluetooth/wifi...
    I'd do some strange things for that....

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      But just a slightly bigger GBA wouldn't have any use for those things 😂

    • @shinobusensui9395
      @shinobusensui9395 27 дней назад +1

      @@AishTalksTech idk about that, this would be the GBA people really wanted after the A30 failed at that

  • @Cronoo
    @Cronoo 19 дней назад

    Good review

  • @imokay3397
    @imokay3397 26 дней назад

    Where can i find a full game list?

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад

      I'm not sure if there is one but I would suggest checking the Anbernic website or emailing customer service.

  • @devilsmaycry9877
    @devilsmaycry9877 17 дней назад

    Does it let you play game cube games?

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  17 дней назад

      No you would need something with a lot more power for that.

  • @smeff69
    @smeff69 27 дней назад +1

    I bought a silver and a blue because I couldn't decide.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      I don't see anything wrong with that 😂

    • @smeff69
      @smeff69 27 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech Which is your favorite color?

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      I really like the clear black because I have a GBA SP in that color, but I think the blue one is the best looking one.

    • @hong10ly70
      @hong10ly70 27 дней назад

      Same i Taken both

  • @bobthebuilder9416
    @bobthebuilder9416 26 дней назад

    Buttons + better battery + built in fan + not bigger than it is. Someone manufacture it plz

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  26 дней назад

      Interesting why a fan ?

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 18 дней назад

      Unless in hot climates, the fan is more warranted in beefier SoC specs for GameCube and PS2 like the RG 556, 405V, and Cube
      Mainly because the chip and battery are in close proximity to each other for passive cooling.

  • @AdmireVega
    @AdmireVega 16 дней назад

    how good does Pokemon BW2 run?

  • @almeidachannel7121
    @almeidachannel7121 20 дней назад

    Nice Video ! Sub & Like ! And Love Retro Gba Games !

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  20 дней назад

      Thank you I really appreciate it 😁

  • @user-qx5xe4kp7j
    @user-qx5xe4kp7j 26 дней назад

    Медная пластина нужна под аккумулятор

  • @seiyamiguelgurangoshibamur3271
    @seiyamiguelgurangoshibamur3271 25 дней назад

    Watching this while taking a huge dump

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  25 дней назад

      That's like half of the RUclips audience in general...

  • @ThCrimsonReaper
    @ThCrimsonReaper 27 дней назад

    Bleach!❤

  • @valg.3152
    @valg.3152 27 дней назад

    Aish thank you for reviewing the blue 💙i ordered mine. And can’t wait to receive mine. Love your videos and honesty. 💙🤍

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      Thank you I really appreciate it 😁

  • @adamkane7513
    @adamkane7513 27 дней назад +2

    I am.not a fan of this "see though" nonsense.
    Fine in lingerie...
    ...in handheld consoles, not so much!

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +3

      Clear shells have been around since the Game Boy color, it might not be for you but I know a lot of people are big fans.

  • @wizzel22
    @wizzel22 26 дней назад

    Those who use Stock Firmware and buy see-through devices have lost Control over their lives.
    -- Karl Lagerfeld

  • @engle42085
    @engle42085 25 дней назад

    What the heck can I just get something that plays all the games

  • @ToomManyMonsters
    @ToomManyMonsters 23 дня назад

    This think souds and looks awful and the plastic is cheap as hell.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  23 дня назад

      I disagree but you're allowed to have your own opinion, thanks for watching 😁

  • @sabd9694
    @sabd9694 27 дней назад

    D pad ruins it

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад +1

      I'm not thrilled with it but I've still been enjoying my time with it

    • @tonyrosario1940
      @tonyrosario1940 27 дней назад

      Yeah, clicky buttons that are more clicky than the Switch is a no go for me, I can’t stand playing retro game on the joycons. It’s a beautiful looking handheld, otherwise.

  • @Deathscythe91
    @Deathscythe91 27 дней назад +1

    the motherboard design is horrible
    videos already show the cpu hitting 80c in 20c room temperature....that battery is COOKING
    its very much not fine in temps , that battery will degrade like crazy

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      Like I said in the video in everyday use the temperature hasn't been an issue, and the battery isn't making direct contact.
      I completely understand the concerns because I have them too but it hasn't been out long enough to actually know if it's going to be a problem, and I don't feel it necessary to create one where there might not ever be one.

    • @Deathscythe91
      @Deathscythe91 27 дней назад

      @@AishTalksTech yes you can know its a problem the previous rg35xx devices had overheating issues and those had heat shields
      if people already measure 80c with 20c environment on the cpu and thats right next to the battery , where do you think that heat will go ?
      not into the plastic....plastic is a bad heat conductor so it does not feel hot to the touch...
      lithium likes to absorb heat soooo thats what will happen
      and that battery will degrade at light speed or go boom
      and in my country its 35c on average so that cpu will already reach 95c , so thats even hotter next to the battery
      lithium batterys have a operating temperature of 50c , what will happen....
      this is simple physics

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      I've never heard of the xx+ or any of the new models overheating, I know the original had some issues when overcloked but not the new ones, where did you see this ?
      Again I completely understand the concern but at this point it's just that, if or when battery damage becomes a problem from the heat you can be sure I'm going to talk about it.

    • @AishTalksTech
      @AishTalksTech  27 дней назад

      Sorry I forgot to add that the highest temperature I've seen with the SP was around 40C at the hottest spot, where did you see 80?