Solid State Logic | SSL Origin | Install Day 4 PT 2
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- This is day 4 part 2 of 2 for the SSL installation and setup. We are getting really close to being finished!
Gear I have in my studio. I get all my gear at Sweetwater. (affiliate links)
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SSL UC-1 - imp.i114863.ne...
Empirical Labs Distressor - imp.i114863.ne...
U/A Apollo x16 - imp.i114863.ne...
Switchcraft Patch Bay - imp.i114863.ne...
Wes Audio NG Bus Comp - imp.i114863.ne...
Wes Audio Titan - imp.i114863.ne...
Wes Audio Dione - imp.i114863.ne...
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I'm so glad you are making these videos. It shows the reality of the install and set up. Will have a similar set up soon and these videos will give me a great head start. Thanks again for all you do!
Thanks for the support. We are trying to educate and help people here, not debate analog vs digital.
@@MixingMusicAnalog I've learned a lot from this series. Not as easy to change over as I thought! Thanks again and have a great day!
I love these videos of console installations. Some of tech heads really enjoy looking at the process of connecting everything to the console, including outboard gear routing. It also gives us ideas of future routings that we might do. Something about watching sound travel gets me STARTED!
Glad you like them!
Your boy Dave is a real true rider/brother. I wish I had a real partner in audio that I could hook up with in my studio for some great sessions and session talks.
Yes, Dave is a good friend for sure and it's a lot of fun having someone to share and work with on this journey!
Fascinating indeed guys. Really interested in your journey especially with the Origin.
I’m doing similar but in a smaller fashion lower end system.
I have a Mackie 32 x 8 routing to a Tascam MSR 24, via direct outs to the Clarett 8 pre and Octo pre with adat. Using master bus main inserts for outboard Warm audio comps and Kark Teknik eq’s.
Also just bought 2 x SSL UF 8’s and the UC 1 which I’m finding interesting.
I’m always looking at different ways of hooking things up with both daw and my analog desk and tape gear etc, and find watching you guys so interesting.
Also looking at acquiring the Fusion for my master bus which I am sure will up my anti a 1000 fold.
I envy you so much being an owner of the Origin.
Thank you for taking the time for sharing your great hybrid system, fascinating indeed
Jon
Thank Jon for watching!
Congrats men. How exciting is this. Wow. Awesome work.
Thanks Bryan
Really enjoying your “SSL” journey.
I had my Switchcraft patchbays about the same level in my racks while I figured out my routing.
I’ve since moved them to arm height now while seated.
Trust me, higher is better and much easier on an old back.
As I move forward I am sure the racking situation will change.
"Close to being finished"...that might be the most ironic thing ever said...
Lol...aint that the truth
Very exciting setting this up. I wonder how you stay so patient ;-)
It all fun and a greta learning experience
Oh my God this is beautifully confusing but I'm still watching I want to see the end I saved all these videos cuz one day when I get my SSL XL desk I will have to review these videos thoroughly over and over and over LOL
LOL. they are here for you to go review anytime you like!
Loving the series man would love the 16 channel version
If you can get SSL to send me one, I will certainly do a review of it!
Wow-- I learned one big fact from this video. I had no idea that the AWS boards don't have motorized faders and bases it on software recall. I can completely understand why you went with the Origin and grabbed the UF8/ UC1 controllers instead of going with the AWS Delta consoles. I had a long term goal to purchasing one of the AWS consoles. Now I am not so sure. The Origin is looking like a much better ROI now. Fascinating and very informative videos. I am really enjoying watching your process of getting your SSL based studio set up. Thanks gents!
Actually, I do think the AWS does have motorized faders but the recall on the EQ/compression, panning and such still need to be physically touched. Those are not digitally controlled. You may want to double check their website. Also, keep in mind that the AWS is literally double the cost of the Origin starting at over $100K. To me, having motorized faders is not worth the extra $50K. I don't do that may recalls so to manually recall the board takes about 15 mins. I will be doing videos on that in the near future.
Peace fellas. I love the videos and the "Batman TV series" Camera angle
Thank you sir!
Great job boys!
Thanks!
48:12 the sound is there very fast mainly because of the console? Wow... that’s amazing...
Seem to be much faster to dial in a sound on the console.
So happy for you
Hey, Thank you. I am glad you are here for the journey!
Hi David.... Yesterday I sorted out what I think were the last two things... I got the Talkback circuit working and dumping the talkback to my P-16 Personal Monitoring System. Also I figured out a way to get the DAW Master Bus Effects into the Console Mix with Zero Latency! Cheers, Terry
NICE! We should hook up on Zoom soon!!
I'll be interested on how to decide to label the patch bay jacks. Lots of jacks and not much room for labels. Great video!
not going to label the patch bay itself but maybe create a "cheat sheet"
So dope! SSL meets Studio One
For now! U/A Luna will be up next
@@MixingMusicAnalog So you have a tutorial on how all of that connects? From the board to the interface to the patchbay to the hardware?
Thanks for the cool video :) Getting there :)
It's coming along
Enjoyed this very much I have a maybe a stupid question Dave but your monitors are they plugged into a power amp or are they plugged into the wall and the SSL? great video BTW
They are plugged into a Fruman power strip that is mounted in the rack
Working on a mix tonight ,ran it through a smart comp and a api 550b's direct out to protools ,like night and day
Cool!
Yep. In the first five minutes I said to myself, "They need another patch bay." Once you get everything 'normaled' then the real rock 'n roll begins! The greatest challenge in all of this is eliminating all of the hiccups that waste so much time. I'm ready for Day 5!
LOL....we actually have 3 patch bays now :)
Sounds awesome!
Thanks for watching!
Nice video chaps. Cant take my eyes off the Distressor permanently set to 'Nuke' tho....#bluelight
NUKE!!
Nice
Thanks, I appreciate it!
@@MixingMusicAnalog makes it much easier to service
Awesome board. :) Just found your channel as I'm shopping for a console and this is one of the boards I'm considering.. I'm just not sure if I want to get a new Origin or an older model...
Welcome aboard! Not sure what the differences are between the "old" one vs the "new one" really is
@@MixingMusicAnalog I'm considering a used XL or a 4056G (my preference but may be too big for my space)..
Hey David, Why not use the individual Console channel insert paths for the kicks and snares to add the Aphex to those channels???
HAHAHA Oooops! Looks like thats what you are doing!!!
YES, the Aphex is on the channel inserts.
SUPER !!!
Many thanks!!
Have you tracked any through the console yet? I'm eyeing several pieces of gear that you're using and I would like a console but the SSL would be a bit overkill for me.
no not yet. focused on mixing
Yeah, it's a bit of overkill for me as well, even if I could afford it (which I can't). I still find it interesting to watch though.
www.solidstatelogic.com/assets/uploads/downloads/origin/SSL_Origin_User_Guide_V1-1_screen.pdf
Highly suggest looking at the back of the Origin’s Manual (well Any SSL really) because it has SSL’s recommendations for setting up patchbays with their console.
SSL long ago went with an ALL DB-25 system (which I 100% agree with) that moves essentially All I/O over to the user’s remote patch panel, with no reason for ever going behind or moving the desk once it’s installed. (I believe they used to even sell the patchbays all properly organized and labeled by SSL. A few Commercial Studios here in LA had identical setups that I assumed came from SSL, but as I think about it, whomever sold and installed the boards could have done it as well.)
Knowing what SSL intended is always a good start.
They’re using 6-total Patchbays to give I/O access to the entire board on an individual points by-point basis, and geared toward (Normalled for) Recording (as opposed to Mixing).
That said, I prefer what I call “Double Stacked” Patchbays.
You guys noted “Outs” over “Ins” on a single Patchbay. 96-points, 2 Rows of 48.
Well on a Double Stack (2 separate patchbays wired as 1) there are now 4-rows of 48-points.
I label them Bay 1, Row A,B,C,D. Bay 2, Row A,B,C,D. Etc.
In a Mixing Setup,
(Bay-1/Row-A) 1-32 DAW Interface Outputs. 33-48 SSL Bus Outputs 1-16
(Bay-1/Row-B) 1-32 SSL Line (or Monitor) Inputs. 33-48 SSL Stereo Group Inputs A-H
(Bay-1/Row-C) 1-32 SSL Direct Outputs. 33-48 SSL Stereo Group Outputs A-H
(Bay-1/Row-D) 1-32 DAW Interface Inputs. 33-48 DAW “STEM-Print” Inputs A-H
(Bay-2/Row-A) 1-32 SSL Channel Insert Sends. 33-48 SSL Bus Outputs 1-16
(Bay-2/Row-B) 1-32 Outboard Ins (User Preferred). 33-48 SSL Stereo Group Inputs A-H
(Bay-2/Row-C) 1-32 Outboard Outs (User Preferred). 33-48 SSL Stereo Group Outputs A-H
(Bay-2/Row-D) 1-32 SSL Channel Insert Returns. 33-48 DAW “STEM-Print” Inputs A-H
(Okay to be continued…. I just got back from a month in Greece a few hours ago and decided to watch this, the started typing like an idiot. I’ll edit and expand and explain later. But the purpose is to have Total Flexibility, and simultaneously have the Ultimate Normalled system without using a single patch cable. I came up when the Patch Panel was the Central Nervous System of every Studio. Even with DAW Routing, I believe it still is, and with Hybrid possibly even More so.)
Thanks for wall the info! I appreciate you taking the time to share.
Is the origin modular? meaning can you pull 1 channel out at a time?
Yes it is.
Can you use pipeline or will that hurt audio quality?
I would think that you can
This is cool but I'll stay ITB lol
That's great as well! Thanks for watching!
I agree with you to a point, but I do like to track through hardware though. Track through hardware, mix in the box, and then master through hardware. That's my ultimate goal. I'm just about done with my custom vocal/Di channel strip. Once that's done I'm going to grab a mastering Pultec (500 series from IGS), and a 500 series buss compressor from IGS as well.
How about the Genesys G32... is that nice?
They are nice but only has 16 preamps, no EQ on the board unless you pay for the upgrade and is $65K vs $48K and the Origin has 32 preamps, 32 hardware EQ's
@@MixingMusicAnalog ohhhh there is the catch. Thank you!
Is the stock compressor of the console nice?
Yes, the SSL bus compressor sounds grerat
beautiful... beautiful ... dont like big monitor televison ... for me 2 small monitor(FOR ME) .... beautiful interesting set up ....
Thanks for sharing
Why is the patchbay so low in the rack?
Thats where they fit for now
You need More Aphex
Maybe one day soon!
Sorry, Dave, but these videos are one notch above watching paint dry. I think it will be more interesting when you actually demonstrate mixing with the console.
then dont watch go somewhere else.
www.solidstatelogic.com/assets/uploads/downloads/origin/SSL_Origin_User_Guide_V1-1_screen.pdf
Highly suggest looking at the back of the Origin’s Manual (well Any SSL really) because it has SSL’s recommendations for setting up patchbays with their console.
SSL long ago went with an ALL DB-25 system (which I 100% agree with) that moves essentially All I/O over to the user’s remote patch panel, with no reason for ever going behind or moving the desk once it’s installed. (I believe they used to even sell the patchbays all properly organized and labeled by SSL. A few Commercial Studios here in LA had identical setups that I assumed came from SSL, but as I think about it, whomever sold and installed the boards could have done it as well.)
Knowing what SSL intended is always a good start.
They’re using 6-total Patchbays to give I/O access to the entire board on an individual points by-point basis, and geared toward (Normalled for) Recording (as opposed to Mixing).
That said, I prefer what I call “Double Stacked” Patchbays.
You guys noted “Outs” over “Ins” on a single Patchbay. 96-points, 2 Rows of 48.
Well on a Double Stack (2 separate patchbays wired as 1) there are now 4-rows of 48-points.
I label them Bay 1, Row A,B,C,D. Bay 2, Row A,B,C,D. Etc.
Yep, read the manual and saw their patch-bay suggestions. Thanks for the info!