Solid State Logic | SSL Origin Install | Patch Bay Day 5
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2021
- In this video, I show you how our two patch bays are connected to all of the outboard gear. By the time anyone sees this video, we will have installed 2 additional patch bays for a total of 4. LOL
Gear I have in my studio. I get all my gear at Sweetwater. (affiliate links)
SSL Origin - imp.i114863.net/4edbBZ
SSL Fusion - imp.i114863.net/EaqG92
SSL UF-8 DAW Controller - imp.i114863.net/qnAXGn
SSL UC-1 - imp.i114863.net/QOJ3xY
Empirical Labs Distressor - imp.i114863.net/rngeK3
U/A Apollo x16 - imp.i114863.net/BXKrYL
Switchcraft Patch Bay - imp.i114863.net/doLjrQ
Wes Audio NG Bus Comp - imp.i114863.net/6bexvE
Wes Audio Titan - imp.i114863.net/EaKyQ4
Wes Audio Dione - imp.i114863.net/b3aVRx
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So rare to find informative analog console info, without the stupid brainworx version flooding your search feed. Super informative. Thanks guys!
Glad it was helpful!
You guys are off the hook man, nice work keep the videos coming this is the only channel talking about how to hook up analog gear I was actually waiting for the patchbay video series because you really have to know your stuff when it comes to patchbays
Thanks! Will do! There will be a Patch Bay part 2 coming very soon
Great stuff, very informative. My favorite was the toot at 24:29
Glad you liked it!
I have really enjoyed the series starting from the beginning..the presentation is also improving as well...looking forward to more content.
Awesome, thank you!
So that's what a million dollars worth of cables looks like. Great work!
You got that right!
Hello cheers from México, real y nice set up and nices videos of how was your expresience installing that beautiful console.
Glad you enjoyed it!
These videos have given me an itch to get a couple hardware pieces.
cool! Be sure to use the Sweetwater links in the description box, I would really appreciate it
I know its a great console, but with the i/o that console has be prepared to get at least a few more patchbays to really utilize everything. As your hardware grows keep in mind how you are going to start patching new pieces. Just an fyi i have 5 96pt bays and still need another and my console has way less i/o than the origin. Its the expense that is never talked about, but every 96pt bay plus db25 cables is around 3-4k depending on bay and cable choices. Just averaging 12 db25 connectors per 96pt bay is going to be in the $2500 range. Keep it going and good luck!
Thanks for the support!!
If you solder yourself the cost is nowhere near that. Plus you can customize cable length and if you encounter any grounding problems you may need to have the shields lifted at certain points on the outboard devices.
I’ve been following since day one and I’m super inspired to buy an SSL, I’m just a little unsure about the “total recall” process since it’s purely analog. Can you please shed some light on how you plan on developing a workflow for recalling mixes and dealing with automation?
Coming soon.
Automation is written to the track in the DAW via the UF8. Your DAW session will (should) have all your routing saved in the session. If you work off a zero fader mix, like TLA, everything should hit your outboard gear in the sweet spot. You shouldn’t be changing channel assignments and switching outboard gear in and out… but if you do record it in the track sheet. Your eq moves should always be in the ballpark once engaged anyway. And of course you A/B the old and new sessions during the session.
It hurt me to see you throw the $160 cable 😢 🤷🏽♂️ why 😬…. Keep them coming loving these episodes 👍🏽😁 thanks Dave
Thanks for watching!
Hi there! What DSub Cable brand did you go with? Are you happy with it?
All Mogmai gold & JumperZ
Great video but how do you fix latency between the two Apollos? My Apollo which monitors output is in time while the outputs from the 2nd are latent. How can you fix that?
I have no latency on my end
@@MixingMusicAnalog I figured it out. You have to unselect the delay compensation in Protools. In otherwords, leave it without a check ✔️. Videos on RUclips suggested checking it and they are wrong. I spent 2 hours trying to figure it out from the hw delay to to trying to figure out the settings in the Apollo console when all I had to do was uncheck it.
Have you or did you consider Flock Audio patchbay? If so, why didn’t you go that route?
Yes, but at $2500 per unit I decided to go with a traditional patchbay.
I am Using My Origin Console along with the SSL UC-1 for "quasi" total recall... Here's how I decided to work a hybrid workflow. I'm using the UC-1 for EQ and Compression instead of the console EQ's... I have A/B'd the SSL Native 2 plug ins and in the mix, I can hear no difference from the Console EQ's. IF you decide to work this way, using the console's 0dB switches for the channels in and out and the UC-1, you can make all of your fader and automation moves in your DAW and all of your EQ and Compression Moves via UC-1. In this way, ALL parameters are stored in the DAW song. Also, since the Origin DOES NOT have compressors on each channel strip. using the UC-1 DOES give you that feature. If you choose not to use the 0 dB buttons on the Console channels and "mix" using the Console faders, the only thing you have to do to recall your mix is to note and recall the console fader positions and all other settings are stored in the DAW. Hope this is helpful guys!
Thanks for the tip. I will be using the faders on the console as that's the main reason I purchased the console. Same with EQ, I think. If I was going to use all plugins for EQ and compression and faders in the box, then why have a console? Just for summing? That would not work for me personally. Thanks for the info as always!
@@MixingMusicAnalog Hi DAvid, I wrote this responding to guy who was asking about recall... I actually use the Console in this manner as well as tracking analogue and full analogue mixing operation susing the DAW as recorder only... It depends on the project. Many of my clients can't have a contiguous session, so I frequently have to pop back and forth between songs... as you can imagine, doing a recall several times a week is inefficient so I use the workflow originally described. Other projects that are done analogue only we leave the Console set up until the mix is completed.
Which speaker stands you use?
I believe these are "Ultimate" speaker stands. I got them at Sweetwater
I've never heard it called "normalized" - just normalled, half-normalled etc. It looks like you guys have to use a lot of patch cables. If you are keeping the bays patched that way for the most part, you might want to re-think your DB-25s and how they are hooked up. For instanced, I think you have the outputs of your X16s going to the top row of a patchbay and the inputs of the same X16s going to the bottom row of the same patchbay. To me, that seems inefficient since I'm not sure you will ever go from input one of X16-A directly to output one of X16-A.
Instead, I would suggest having the outputs of your X16s going to the top row of a patchbay and then on the bottom row of the same patchbay I'd have the corresponding inputs of the SSL. Additionally, I'd have the outputs of the SSL going to the inputs of another patchbay and the inputs of the X16s wired to the inputs of that same patchbay. I'd do the same with the group outs of the SSL and the outboard gear. This way, everything has a proper signal flow without using a patch cable unless you decide you want to send a signal to a place other than it's already routed. All of this said, maybe you are doing some of this already and I missed it because I was doing some other things while watching the video. It just seamed like a lot of patch cables on the front that may not be necessary.
Thanks for the advice! We are getting together this weekend to re-wire the patc bays and we will review how its currently hooked up and see what we can do based on your tip! I appreciate the help!
@@MixingMusicAnalog You're welcome. I love your board and am enjoying all the analog goodness vicariously through your channel. Keep up the good work.
"I'm pretty sure..." is my Waterloo...
LOL
so your telling me you only have buss compressors?
how does that work? how did you end up with a ssl and no compression? real question........
either way enjoy the console bro!
go back and watch some of the instal videos. Its all answered there.
Is this a SSL A series ?
I dont believe so. Its based on the old E series in part
patchbay labelling !!!! it will make your patchbays much easier to read
All this hi-end equipment !!!! and what ??? this cheap lexicon ??? find a pcm70, still one of my favorite reverb !!!!
I got something better than labeling the patch bay.....video coming soon!!
@@MixingMusicAnalog if you want I am not using patchcad license.....
Hi guys!! Why is there no accommodations for strain relief on those "D-subs," or any of the "stand alone" cables?? Don't you think that is very, very important, or is it OK for cable connection failures?!!? Look...I am not trying to be a D.H., but I am a tech at heart, and strain relief at the connection point(s) in the rear of those outboard beauties is paramount, and done for the longevity of the investment in those cables!! I will note that I noticed the point I am making about strain relief, started at the beginning of the video!! By videos end I see that there has been a certain amount of strain relief applied in the form of zip-ties at key locations, but in no way should be considered sufficient for absolute strain relief!! Strain relief does not take long, it is really not expensive considering the investment in cables in that "little wiring nightmare," and I say nightmare, in the very best sense of the word, it took much planning and even more time in their assigned locations!!! Sooooo, one does not want to spend anymore time then necessary "mucking around" in the back of those racks, replacing wires that failed due to strain issues!!!
ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER ENGINEERS!!!!!
PEACE !!!!!🤘🏼
There actually is strain relief I added but you have not seen them in the videos yet. I appreciate the tip! Do you have any specific products you have used in the past that you could recommend?