Derrick Jensen: Endgame Part One
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What if you live in the most destructive culture ever to exist? What if that culture refuses to change? What do you do about it?
Derrick Jensen: Endgame Part One
www.endgamethebook.org
www.derrickjensen.org
Derrick Jensen named Press Action Person of the Year for 2006
From the Press Action website www.pressaction.com
"The recipient of this award was never in doubt. Derrick Jensen's Endgame, released in late spring, was the best work of nonfiction in 2006. Given the significance of its subject matter and the urgency of Jensen's message, Endgame is the most important book of the decade and could stand as the must-read book of our lifetimes. But be careful. The book is likely to send you into periods of despondency over the bleak future of the planet. But Jensen explains that if enough of us stand up and work together to fight the fascists, the crash won't be as devastating. And the long struggle will eventually result in an explosive renewal of all forms of life on the planet."
From the website www.endgamethebook.org:
"Having long laid waste our own sanity, and having long forgotten what it feels like to be free, most of us too have no idea what it's like to live in the real world. Seeing four salmon spawn causes me to burst into tears. I have never seen a river full of fish. I have never seen a sky darkened for days by a single flock of birds. (I have, however, seen skies perpetually darkened by smog.) As with freedom, so too the extraordinary beauty and fecundity of the world itself:
It's hard to love something you've never known. It's hard to convince yourself to fight for
something you may not believe has ever existed."
--from Endgame, Volume I
"Hailed as the philosopher poet of the ecological movement, best-selling author Derrick Jensen returns with a passionate forecast of how industrial civilization, and the persistent and widespread violence it requires, is unsustainable. Jensen's intricate weaving together of history, philosophy, environmentalism, economics, literature and psychology has produced a powerful argument that demands attention in the tradition of such important books as Herbert Marcuse's Eros and Civilization and Brigid Brophy's Black Ship to Hell."
Endgame Part Two is located at:
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Jim Lockhart
A mistake a lot of people make is to simply "write off" Derrick Jensen as a wild eyed liberal or a tree hugger. He's neither. He's a pretty good guy and is neither Liberal or Conservative. He's no pushover or non-violent. He cares about the World for the World's sake. You can't just ignore what he says but it would kill a lot of Conservatives to hear and absorb what he is saying. It is easy to "hate" those we fear and a lot of people fear what he is saying and they simply cannot accept the Hard Truth. Keep on speaking out Derrick!
Hey there's nothing wrong with being a tree hugger, you should try it and i bet he does too
I am a pretty Far Right Libertarian, just found this guy, love him so far. Left Right means less than Right Wrong. I found him talking about Pedophilia in the videos The Most Based Man Alive Part 1. (and part 2)
The biggest problem is population growth, which is rarely if ever addressed. All the dudes at the top want exponential never ending growth, as it is good for profit/economies. More FIAT money that bankers get for free to make profit on if there are more people borrowing/buying/building houses...
He is brilliant. Period.
Derrick Jensen does not do drugs or drink alcohol. He says the only time he's ever done any drugs is when he was staying at the house of a friend who smokes a lot of pot, and was in serious pain from a prostate infection and tried a cookie, which he later regretted. But his pain went away so he became an advocate of medical marijuana.
Why does it matter what he ingests?
you fucking shill or jus stupid
i disagreed with him on a few points but was surprised to hear so many thoughts and ideas that felt so personal coming from someone else. He is, by my estimate, a passionately honest guy who is just calling it like he sees it and his criticisms are well founded and insightful
He's a great comedian too!
Jensen calls paying rent for the right to be here into question and rightfully so. What is clearly wrong with requiring people to pay for the right to be on the planet is that this payment is paid to private "owners" of land who put it in their pocket despite the fact that they did not make the land or create its value. Thus it is an unearned income to them/us and a form of theft. The community could tax this away 100%. Would Jensen think this also was just another form of toadying?
"Are there any undercover Feds here?"
There always are Derrick, always. It's what they do.
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16:20 Tolowa 12,500 years 19:06 its all about who can be the meanest
Yep, and that is why technology advances, war, and why we are being driven to the end. I think the "Elites" know this and in the long run this is/may be why there is a push for a "One World Government". To end war, and stop population growth.
Anyone know where I can watch this off youtube?
Consider the analogy between a city and a living cell, such as a bacterium. Clearly, the bacterium (or any other cell) imports its resources. Is the living cell sustainable?
no it actually bacteria self generates alot (most?) of its own resources.
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There are no organisms that make their own resources. Organisms do make things that they need, but in order to make them, things from the outside are required. Water for instance. Sunlight. These external things are what we call resources, so practically by definition, a resource is going to be external to the thing that uses it.
Just consider that living things grow. They add mass as they grow. They consume energy as they grow. Where does the mass and energy come from? Inside or outside?
Should a city be any different?
Maybe it's more important to focus on the fact that if the amount of waste becomes too much, the cell becomes unhealthy/dies.
Yes, and there is also the quality of the waste to consider and not just quantity. The sorts of things that our factories produce as waste, or that we put into landfills and oceans, are not of the sort that enter into sustainable life cycles.
In theory though, it may be possible to have a city which is as sustainable as organisms generally are. Organisms eventually die, and in that sense an organism is not sustainable. But when they do die, they become food for other organisms. So perhaps we could aim for cities that live and die sustainably.
Hell even Stone Age isn't sustainable. Easter Island was stone-age. The Hawaiians were stone-age. All kinds of civilizations were stone-age. I'd say the requirements are tighter than that; not just stone-age but anything other than very casual farming/gardening is not really sustainable. Humans have to wander, throw seeds here and there, and that's about it.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
I think the threshold will be the collapse of agriculture as we know it here in the US. In 2010 Russia lost approx. 1/4 of it's wheat crop and all hell broke lose the following spring in Egypt due to failure of wheat shipments from Russia. Syria also erupted in violence after 12 years of drought and a million migrants to the cities there from the countryside. All indications suggest this will occur here in the US as well in the not too distant future. Since industrial agriculture is the primary factor in the growth of our population and it's very many negative outcomes upon the biosphere, only a collapse of mechanized farming in the 1st world will produce a collapse of this insane culture. I'm guessing 20-30 years or so. We may get a preview this year as the spring planting is significantly behind schedule...commodity prices are already on the rise. Let's hope we can make the transition without killing too many people...but the loss of a couple of billion is probably unavoidable now as we will not stop until we can't grow anything or have taken virtually everything that can be eaten. Living in the Philippines has been rather eye opening as there doesn't seem to be any bats or snakes any longer (at least not on the island I'm living on). And there is evidence that flying insects in the northern hemisphere are disappearing. Hold on to your hats as the next couple of decades are going to be chaotic!
I like you're optimism
As a fan of Star Wars, I totally concur that the acting is not that good in any of those movies, but it certainly is better in the original trilogy than it is in the prequel trilogy which is really bad.
this is star wars
For the 35,000 years before Europeans "discovered" North America the various peoples lived, apparently happily without ever paying Rent or using Money. I'm not suggesting that we go back to a hunter gatherer existence but I bet their stress levels were a LOT lower than ours and I don't recall EVER hearing about a Jail or a Prison until us white folks showed up. When there is no Capital there can be no "Capitalists". Indians had a hierarchy so they weren't true "Communists" either. Having earned my degrees in Business and Economics 40+ years ago I'm a rather conservative Libertarian but have never been capable of classifying the Native American peoples in an Economic sense. Most of what we accept as normal is FAR from "normal" in the hierarchy of Earth's life forms.
Humans have gross pathologies.
They form abstractions which enslave, control and destroy everything. This is called "progress."
Many of those tribes in America practiced slavery, and even canibalism. Want to get back to that too?
@@Battery-kf4vu Sounds much more apealing than enslavement of half of the human population and all of flora and fauna...
@@LikeTheOceanWeRise The primitive tribes took part in the disappearance of the mega fauna of mamoths and other species - even if it was probably not the only factor.
It was a wise idea to bring a crying baby into the room
Derrick’s ideas are flawed at their foundation because he operates under the presupposition that life is inherently good and that the Earth’s existence is worth preserving. 🤔🧠💡
Must suck to hate life itself
How is that a flaw?! 😐🥴😂
He is god (-:
Premise four is the most powerful one to understand I think...
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For sure the least widespred understood, many alternative people would agree on our selfdestruction jet still ilegitimise radical action
Maybe figured it out. Have to turn my smart phone off
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yeah lets ridicule him cause he's weird and thinks different- yeah go smoke something- put it in your pipe and such-i think we got him- do you think he will get back in line now. i hope, there is no room for quacks or free thinkers- i mean crazy people..
Just for context: The Rebels were fighting for the REPUBLIC, the Empire were Authoritarian Collectivists.
@Shawn Gray Uh, Authoritarian Collectivists would include Fascists and Communists. Historically Fascists have been Nationalists as well as Socialists, Communists historically have been more known for mass genocide of their "own" people, all for the "greater good". Trust me, you would have much rather have lived in Hitler's Germany than in Stalin's Russia...And YES, the Rebels were fighting for the REPUBLIC! The language of that got changed/disappeared once Disney bent the entire Star Wars Universe over and boned it.
@Shawn Gray Uh, Fascism is Left Wing, as is Communism. Right Wing would be early America/Gadsden flag types. Left=Big Authoritarian Gov. Right=Small less intrusive Gov. Fascism historically has been coupled with Socialism... Very Lefty... I can't even think of a "small gov, non socialist" example of Fascism...
@Shawn Gray Oh, and the Vietcong were not fighting for the "Republic" as the Rebels are in Lucas's Star Wars.
@Shawn Gray Historically all Fascist nations were also Socialist. Oh, and my initial statement of Authoritarian Collectivists includes Fascists and Communists.
@Shawn Gray So, just going full blown ree ree? lol Are you describing Stalin's Russia? Amazing that you can't even have a coherent conversation. Amazing what propaganda has done to your mind. There are more than two political positions. Proud Boys and Gadsden Flag types are both Anti-Fascist, and Anti-Communist. I am guessing you are Commie, so you see everything to the Right of you as Fascism, including Freedom... Your brain is mush. Good luck with that!
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You're no better than him with that immature, abrasive attitude. You need to respond with reason, regardless of the mode of madness.
All his critiques are valid and then some but how likely is it to change the course of things? Best focus on our own life and look for the good, the true and the real. Bring them as much into the world around you as possible. Focusing on the crappy conditions without finding a better alternative is masochistic. Don’t you think it’s suspiciously bad conditions?
Dude needs to process where he is at and accept things as they are. The truth is within, too much concern for the forms of this world will lead to insanity. The world is a poorly managed dumpster fire start processing it. It takes years but damn it’s good to not be burdened by negative feelings. I love Derrick but damn man it’s like listening to ecological disaster porn poems.
This guy has a great way of looking at things and can express it very intelligently and poetically, but ... well, I find him and his followers just the same as everyone else. The premises are nonsense from the get go ... but I think he is very worthwhile to listen to or be exposed to his ideas.
If some one had of brought down civilization 65 million years ago we would still have dinosaurs.
+Zorn101 Humans are only around for like 2 million years...
Oil is renewable though
He is not correct on cities. Cities throughout history were importing population. In post-post industrial age they wouldn't, since population will not grow. So this will be different mode, which might require different amount of goods being produced, if used wisely.
He’s not correct on the vast majority of his ideas.
@@MiguelDLewis can u give more details?
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
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I'd love to see Patrice O'Neal take apart his premise on sex
dunnig-kruger effect.
i am replying to a self-referential comment.
I generally like the interview, though I think it is a flawed and rather ignorant argument in favour of non-veganism, which he actually just shot down right before, talking about seeing sentient beings as individuals instead of groups: Trees are not sentient individuals - men, women and non-human animals are. If some idiot killed me and "ensured the continuation of my family" who'd support that idiot's reasoning? No one.
Trees are sentient; worse when you eat you fresh vegetables, you are eating sentient being while they are alive. SICK.
Pot calling the kettle black.
We cannot help but be embedded within the contexual constructs of globalization and our spatialized expansionist consciousness structure which has now entered the choke point of mutation and transformation.
There's not much value in primitivist or feminist ideology. Most ideology represents disattachment from reality and as such, is counter-productive.
Actually, he highlights some important truths.
We can either have 8 billion people trying to live with civilization which will destroy the world.
Or perhaps 4 billion people living by using mainly renewables.
Who cares about sustainability?
oh wow...he said 'myths of science'....dude, i know you know empirical evidence and observation are not the stuff myths are made of....way to discredit yourself
hacky at best.
"we dont import. we grow food on our land!"
until the soil no longer supports yields of food.
This entire presentation is based on not knowing about advanced tech. His definition of civilization is so very very wrong.
Antiquated Malthusian Ideology.
I don't think you know what Malthusian means
Malthus was a mathematician. Jensen is a biologist. Big difference in perspectives in the approaches they take to system analysis.
Yes, I see that.
Eric Bray Jensen is looking at tipping points in structural load and feedback loops in his arguments about civilization's impact especially regarding the base of the ocean's food web. Malthus never examined these issues with modern chemistry and environmental science.
Is this a comedy routine?
not very funny
it is funny if you are woke
Truth isn't funny it's brutal, but he still tries
@@xxnotmuchxx I do not not agree with you, as you're name speaks for itself 💜, BUT it close to never helps to make your point
Those who aren't can't understand
Those who label mostly pretend
@@LikeTheOceanWeRise If you dont agree at least focus on the message. Derrick makes good points.
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