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VERY OLD bow hunter here... love your videos and all the HELPFUL advice in PLAIN English......thanks to you I was able to tune the old Mathews I bought....still miss deer however.
Haha! I'll always guarantee I'll help, but never that I'll make you perfect! Thanks for watching.
Great video! Would love to see you do a review on the Elite Terrian, especially with redline accessories.
Hopefully sooner than later!
Good bow for the money
Congrats on the elite sponsorship 🤘🤘
I’m heading into the second year with my omnia, successful first one! The bow is already re strung and set up, now I have to fight the tinkering itch 😂
Unfortunately up here in Canada, it was hard to get my hands on the omnia. Mine showed up a few days before hunting season, I had no time to setup the bow or build the arrows. Bagged two deer with an old beat up diamond edge SB-1 cheapy from Cabela's lol. Can't wait to hunt with my omnia this year!
Having mixed feelings about how everything went down I hung up my Athens and picked up a barely used Omnia. Talk about not knowing what you’re missing! Absolutely love it. I’ve never been more confident practicing out to 100 yards. Elite makes some amazing bows for sure!
Flo orange strings and cables are just the bees knees!
I live over in Montgomery county. I might have to make the drive to you and pick up an Elite. I keep hearing great things. I was a fan of the Kure but haven’t shot one since.
You rock Nate!!
SE PA hunter here - Awesome video. Ill have to check that bow out. I was originally interested in Prime. As far as broadheads I agree. Grim Reaper razortip 125s took two of my does last season. They work well and killed both within 30 yards from point of impact. The other head I used was a 125 G5 Striker which was also excellent.
Im also practicing with my long bow, hopefully I develope the skill & confidence to take it out this season.
You mentioned gas strings, as a shop owner, you should definitely check phantom bow strings! They make phenomenal strings! Better then gas in my opinion
Great to see you back on the small screen Nate. I always look forward to your updates.
I just went to an open hook (Stan Solex wrist strap) and just getting used to it. I do have a question about your open hook choice. How often has it fallen off the d-loop when just hanging there? I hope you have back up!
The only time I've had it fall is when I'm messing with it! Never had an issue where it just falls off or I "bump" it. I'm usually trying to do too many things in the tree and prematurely stuck my release to the bow before I was fully setup. Rookie moves!!!
I’m shouting an Ethos now. I shot Mathews for 20 years. I like the adjustability of Elite bows.
Your very knowledgeable love the videos I wished I lived closer by I would bring my elite omnia over have you check it out and shoot at your range.
Welcome back to Elite, loving the Ethos nate 🤙
Good stuff. Thank you.
The People's Champ! Good stuff, Nate.
It's not good when manufacturers leave the sport but I'm glad to see you back with Elite. A lot of of your earlier videos turned me onto Elite and as a result I have a Rezult 38, pun intended 🤣
Going to my first LAS Classic in '25, hope to see you there. Keep up the great work Nate!
You'll see me there! Wouldn't miss it.
Thanks for the update. Any reviews on the Darton bows?
Negative. No interest in Darton in my store.
It's a good thing I learned how to make bowstrings 10 years ago. I just made a set for a friend's Mathews Tactic and got it tuned for him.
Broke my heart the way it went down with Athens. My Vista 33 was my backup to my Xpedition so I’ll enjoy it till the wheels fall off.
Man if you could find a set of cams and limbs for the low you could shoot that thing for a lifetime , it does suck though I really hate how it went down
@@longshotdiedtired1582 Bowtech are having their own issues. I guess they figured if they’re going down they should take somebody with them.
@@jeffcopenhaver2217 what issues?
@@bbmas1930 Well their buy out, limb issues on the Realm, and dropping Tim and Kyle, who both jumped aboard Matthews, they must be feeling the squeeze. Probably just a matter of time till they lose Paige too. The archery biz is as cutthroat as any.
Good Video Nate. Man Elite is definitely a good company and they make some amazing quality stuff! I would love to be a dealer but I am just a tad too close to another shop that has been selling them for a while and doing very well with them. Glad to hear you shop is still healthy! I am in the dead zone too lol. And the get you bows in for new strings and cable now is definitely good advise! Customers are guaranteed to get their bows back in plenty of time this time of the year. The closer to deer season you get the longer the turn around time is. Keep up the good work Brother! Let me know if there is anything I can ever do for ya!
I have that sight and I l9ve it, solid so far 6monthish few thousand sticks down range.ss34 even fell over twice on concrete hitting scope enough to put a few deep scratches in housing and took it without issue other then scratch!
Nice video Nate. Elite is killing it as of late. Happy you had a good transition to another company sir.
Hey! Nice paint job on the house! Love the green!!
Good to see you back Nate. 👏🏼
The way you feel about your Elite Nate is how I feel about my Prime Inline 5. Soon as I grab it vs my other bows I always think to myself. Why do I even have other bows. Glad to see you back.
Man, 517 grains, at 290 fps? Nice! I wish I had a 31" draw. Good luck this year. Will be at any of the Mobile Hunter Expo shows this summer?
I will be running the Huntworth booth at the show in Manheim, PA at Spooky Nook! Going to lots of awesome gear to try and buy there!
@@averagejackarchery Roger that. If I don't go shoot the IBO Worlds I'll see you there.
Love my ethos. Im shooting a 503 grain arrow at similar speeds with a 30.5 dl at 67 pounds
So glad to have you back with Elite. You were one of the major factors in me buying an Elite for my first bow. I now have the Envision, Terrain, and Ember (wife's). I felt betrayed when you left them.
We're getting the band back together now! Lol!
Nice! I love my Omnia and Ritual. Never thought I would leave PSE but Elite made me never look back.
good on you mate. No one is going to doubt for a second your affiliation with Elite given your history with them. Glad that you've found a quick partner after the Athens dramas and happy to see a small business just get on with things after taking a hit. Best of luck with the new ( kinda?) brand. My first decent bow was an Elite and i'll probably always have a soft spot for them.
Your draw length looks perfect with that bow/release combo, in some of your older videos there seems to be more string in your face. 517gr at 290fps is insane. Glad you’re back with Elite!
Yes! I stopped trying to force putting my nose to the string and went to the corner of the mouth last Summer. HUGE improvement in overall comfort, scores, and repeatability. It's been a big improvement on the range and in the woods.
Still shooting an Elite Answer since 2012 and love it.
Glad you found a new home
Love my kairos. Smooth, quiet, solid. I wish they had some kind of grip. Holding aluminum when it's 20 degrees starts to suk after a while.
Super thin pickleball racket tape makes a world of difference!
Nate, I am not familiar with racket tape. Can you point me to a recommendation? I am shooting the Envision.
@@patrickbink4617 Do a Google Search for local sporting goods stores that sell tennis/golf/baseball equipment and it's a good chance they sell a bunch of different racket grip tapes of various thicknesses and stickiness levels.
I got the thinnest lizard skin bat tape. 2mm I think. It works for me.
Looking forward to the verdict content👌
I recommend the Core SS for you, you can even adjust the cam with an allen wrench. 😅
True dat! Although until Bowtech decides they want to make long draw bows for long ATA shooters, and short ATA bows for short draw shooters, I just can't. Can you imagine the string angle at 31" out of a 31ATA bow? Oof. Brutal.
I love my kairos! It’s the short draw of the ethos, best bow I’ve shot for my t-Rex arms
The 2024 Elite bows are crazy efficient and as dead in the hand as any bow made.
I'm shooting the Kairos because I have a shorter draw. Absolutely love it!
Great bow for shorter dl guys
Congrats nate. What lighted nocks do you recommend for a Easton axis 5mm arrows I shoot Magnus stinger buzz cut.
I personally stick with Nockturnals for my lighted nocks.
@@averagejackarchery thank you. I will order them from your shop
So, I shoot my Remedy with a CBE Tek hybrid pro and a Bee stinger slider. I feel like we've got the same thought process
It's just like that old phrase, "Great minds shouldn't throw stones."
Or something like that.
Great to see you back in action however brief it was lol , love the channel , you have an online store ?
More content to come when I get time! I don't have a supported online store. If you need something feel free to email us at averagejackarchery@gmail.com and we can ship to your door!
What a coincidence. I m in the process of going 100% Elite as well. I cannot wait to shoot my new verdict. I will check through your back catalog of videos, but I have some thoughts of videos on topics where I would appreciate your point of view. I wonder, just short of making a string, how hard is it to do different kinds of servings? I have recently begun replacing center servings but wonder about end loops? I recently had to get some strings warranty replaced from a reputable company, who did it quickly and with good customer service. But how hard could it have been to fix myself? Also, for the home DIY guy, what do you see as the progression of gear beginners should get when they want to start customizing or fixing things, vs intermediate competitors, vs full "I have my own bow shop" kind of guys? Last suggestion, and I apologize if you already made this video, but what kinds of things would you take with you to a TAC as a "just in case?" I plan to go to a TAC someday but it is an investment of time and money as there are no TAC competitions near me. If I do go, what kinds of gear should I bring, and what can I leave at home? Thanks for making videos and thanks for considering my questions.
Leave end serving to the professionals if you're trying to do a full end serving replacement. End servings hold the tag ends of the strings together under massive friction, and therefore hold your bow together and keep the cable from popping apart. I wouldn't want to put that to chance. Center serving though is just window dressing to protect the string from dloops and nocks. Have at that as much as you want.
I have a few videos on the home shop topic, and my views haven't changed. It all boils down to how much do you want to invest to eventually make the leap to owning a press. That is the biggest lynch pin of the whole system and you never can really "do it all" until you own one. But a collection of hand tools, T square, bow vise, dloop pliers, and allen wrenches will get you most of the way there.
TAC events are tricky depending on where you're going and what time of year. Water, water, and more water. Also, if you're going to a place with high elevation like the shoots out West, really need to pay attention to altitude. It can really mess a person up and come on them quickly. Outside of that, a good backpack you want to carry for hours, lots of arrows, and a have fun attitude are all you need!
How do you like looking at the bubble in the cbe hidden behind the block for adjusting the pins?? And the brightness of the pins that is absolutely dim? I hate that scope. And the fact that you don't have any indications on the windage adjustments for reference. Hate mine... I got really f buying it after a review on yt... anyway.. would likento see if you have the same feelings for yours..🎯✌️👊♥️
Love my Stan click
Stan makes good stuff!
Onnex Clicker? Love mine as well!
Awesome video..
like to see your tack set up
I don't shoot TAC! So not much from me I'm afraid.
I’m waiting for Elite to develop a 35” axle to axle verdict.
I’m still shooting my 2014 energy 35 because I don’t want to change brands.
You should try a nock on backstrap release.it’s a real game changer.every shot I think the same thing,”man,I love this release”
I really like mine as well though I have been using the Stan Onnex Clicker lately. Took some time to transition from wrist to thumb but it is going well. Both are great releases.
@@patrickbink4617 if I ever went back to a thumb trigger release it would definitely be an onnex clicker.
Being able to set your thumb into the trigger without worry of a misfire is huge.
With that release it’s easier to have repeatable thumb position and thumb pressure
Love my option 7... looking for an option 6(kinda)...love my ritual 35... but man I hated my KURE...so much so I only had it for about a month...I don't trust that system Traded it to get ritual 35. I hear that SET stuff is cool... but I just broadhead tune my bows then all that SET adjustment goes out the windows.
If I was a tall dude like you, I would be hunting with the Verdict. I have no clue why guys think they must have a short ATA bow for hunting? I shot a 41" ATA Mathews Signatures (3.5 pounds) from 1996 to 2012 (17 seasons). It wasn't a target bow. It was a hunting bow made for finger shooters. I was still shooting fingers when I bought it, but I used a release for most of those years. The 41" ATA was never an issue. As a matter of fact, I sort of miss the length (been shooting 35" ATA since 2013). I'm not as tall as you, but I would still pick the Verdict over the shorter ATA bows. If 35" ATA isn't a choice, I'm going up rather than down in length. Personally, I think the Verdict would make a sweet hunting bow. During my past 37 archery seasons, I have never seen the need for a short ATA bow. I feel you're settling (@ 33"), & you don't have to in my opinion. Verdict in outdoor green with a little removable camo paint sponged on. That would be my choice!
The Ethos shoots like a 35" bow. It has the exact same string angle as the E35, it's much faster and holds like a freakin rock.
Bows these days have much longer risers and bigger cams. A 33" ATA bow today holds as good or better than most 35" ATA bows from years ago. Sounds like you're stuck in the past and missing out on some great shooting bows.
@@douglasvaughn9530 Very few bows are faster than bows made 10 years ago. My bow is a 2013 model, & it's rated at the same speed (340 fps). You're just buying into marketing hype. My older bow is rock solid, over engineered in my opinion, has a solid backwall, is quiet at the shot, & comes with a superior warranty. I'm not bashing today's new bows at all, but I would feel like a fool buying a new one. It wouldn't give me ANYTHING that I don't already have. I learned a long time ago to be content. My 58 year old brother is someone who is a bit more stuck in time. He's bought 3 compounds since age 12. The first one (Browning) snapped in half. Second one (Xi) was stolen. He used his insurance money to buy his Hoyt 20+ years ago. We're hunters not archers. We become proficient with whatever we use. He could afford any bow he wants, but feels no need to change. Bucks still drop the same, too. Glad you like what you have, too!
You forgot to move your bottom limb dampener back after you took it out of the vise. 😉
Lol! It's slid up against the riser there to allow my limb legs to work. I use a bicycle vise! Holds by the grip. Been meaning to make a video.
@averagejackarchery I just saw a video this week where someone was using a bicycle stand for his bows! He had it mounted to the bench.
Love me ethos but how do we get rid of that little click at the end of the draw?
Soften up the ends of the modules with a strip of hockey tape or felt. The clear serving on the cables is a much more "plasticy" serving than normal and the metal coming in contact with it can often make a clicking noise.
I got an Athens cause as a NY’er I wanted to support a NY company… should of chose Elite.
How would you compare this elite to Lift 33?
Both have the qualities worth shooting. I prefer the draw cycle of the Ethos at the big end of the draw length so much more. Lift definitely also a speed bow, but you can't beat all the adjustments with Elite. Letoff, 1/4" draw length, smooth or performance mod, SET technology, the list goes on.
Do you have any time on the Revex/RVX line?
Unfortunately, no.
Nate, what made you switch from Sirius to the Gold Tip?
Nothing really! Sirius makes good stuff. But as a shop owner, it doesn't look right to me if I don't shoot the products I sell. (Sirius is only direct to consumer.) Been a Gold Tip shooter for a long time especially for the target side of things, so shooting a hunting shaft again was like riding a bike. Was tough not to go with XT Hunters that I have piles of already. LOL. Wanted to give something new a stab!
Just tried switching up my arrow setup this year and was a mess. I went back to my Axis, now in a 300 spine. Total arrow weight will be about 500 grains.
Trying to decide between Magnus Stinger Buzzcuts or the Black Hornet Ser Razors.
So you’re shooting 300 spine with 125grn up front at 31” draw….. how did it tune? I’m shooting those same specs, same bow, but with a 250 spine and it’s been giving me problems tuning.
I thought 300 would be on the weak side but if it tuned easily with 300s maybe I’ll switch
Tuned in minutes. With everything set plain Jane from the factory, I was getting 1/4" nock left tear. Little tweak of the SET and I was bullet holes in no time. Tested with lighted nock and broadheads and we're the same POI with field points out to 40. Good enough for me!
@@averagejackarchery Thank you for replying, love your videos and content, added bonus for your interaction. I’ll give some 300s a try and see if that helps. It’s shooting great but I have the SET basically maxed out to do it.
Tried shimming to get rid of a nasty right tear but that caused cam/cable rubbing. Had to add weight to the front, must be a spine issue.
Thanks again for the reply
@@derickprice8996 Gotta really watch torque, grip placement, and face pressure. Also try a lower letoff setting as high letoff makes everything soft on the back end and more prone to shooter form errors.
Just curious, since we have the same draw length, what setting is your mod on. My bow is drawing long in the longer lengths.
Is your nose touching the string? I can’t seem to get the string to my nose without sacrificing form by pushing my head down into it.
Everyone says the string angle is the same as the E35, but it doesn’t feel like it to me. I’m missing something in the way I have it set. Going to try a shorter release next, using a UV thumb and the throat is long on it.
Maybe I could lengthen the draw on the bow and shorten the release up and get the string to my nose then.
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Elite is a fantastic company and I have the feeling they’re not going anywhere , I don’t think any honest archer could shoot elite against any other bow and say it’s not as good or better than the competition
pro tip
Do you know Steve Hanh from Australia?
Yup! Done videos with him actually. Check out both his and my recent content and you'll see us together on there!
@@averagejackarchery How dud I miss that? Watching it now.
You ever shoot the era?
ruclips.net/video/apF5Yr5p2x4/видео.html Yup! Full review.
You seem to be very knowledgeable about archery but all the videos I watch when you're out practicing with your bow that you've set up you never show where your arrows are hitting on the target people including myself I'm sure would love to see how accurate you are I'm sure you will amaze viewers with your shooting abilities at distances out to at least 50 yards, now go out there and impress some viewers with how well you shoot that bow that you built.
www.ianseo.net/TourData/2024/16583/IFBH.php
I usually just keep my scores on camera to the competitions! Lol. Took 10th at the LAS Classic this year. I'm too lazy to setup a second angle camera in my backyard videos 🤣
Bummer that Bowtech sued Athens into oblivion over something that was similar but not executed the same. Makes me not want to buy one like I previously did.
Anyway welcome back to a familiar home with Elite, they get high marks as well for their ease of tune ability and shoot ability. I remember that is what you had at your Tethrd Teach N Train a few years ago when I met you.
The black and orange 🍊 looks badass and reminds me of Halloween 🎃 which is usually a great time to hunt. 😎🏹🦌
Bummer that Athens thought they could break the law, and infringe on someone else's patent.
Hey Nate nice looking setup, when you said new arrows I thought here we go Steven Hann has sent you some Pandarus Arrows, it would be awesome to see what you think...
Haha! Yeah unfortunately I don't like shooting stuff I don't sell. Gives me first hand experience as a dealer and I have mounts in my store where I can point at the animal and say "this deer was shot with this arrow and this broadhead". Stuff I carry in my store and if the guy behind the counter has confidence, the customer can have confidence!
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They’re great at buying archers to sell their products. They absolutely suck with supporting their customers.
My story: Bought an Elite Omnia in December. A month later I unknowingly shot an arrow with a broken nock. Arrow kicked to the right and essentially dry fired. Since I had just put the limb stops on. Both cams completely taco’d. Both limbs were damages. Total loss except for the riser. Took it to the dealer. Dealer reached out to Elite. Assumed the least they would be was offer parts at cost as I just bought it and it wasn’t their fault. So cost made sense as good business. Let’s keep in mind. I loved my Omnia so much. I bought every accessory plus their arrows. Bought my son an Ember and all the accessories. Easily dropped 3k on elite products in 30 days. I try to be very loyal to companies I believe make a good product and do right by their customers.
Their response. “Buy a new bow”. The shop for me into a Lift 29.5 and I’ve already talk 3 people out of buying an Elite.
Buyer beware. Elite is currently prioritizing buying archers to push their products. And have nothing left to support those that actually pay for their products. Great product. Terrible business practices.
My experience as a customer and dealer has been the complete opposite. To be fair, any bow damaged by the customer, from any manufacturer, is the customer's responsibility. Unless the part is prematurely damaged such as a splitting limb or bearings in cams and rollers that have gone bad, it's the customer's responsibility. Things such as bad nocks in an arrow isn't the manufacturer's fault. Maybe it was the shooter for not checking. Or the arrow manufacturer for not making a good nock. Either way, it's not the bow company's financial responsibility to pay for another individual's or manufacturers defects. Now, to your comment on "at cost", that would be to the discretion of the shop owner and the parts and their lack of markup. No manufacturer, and I mean NO manufacturer gives out parts for free to dealers. Every single thing is paid for by the shop at the markup from the manufacturer. As a dealer I can't even get parts for my own bow "at cost" of factory. Just not how the industry works.
@@averagejackarchery Just to clarify. I wasn’t expecting anything for free. I thought cost would be fair showing that they’re trying to work with someone that just spent 3k on their products in 30 days. And yes, I heard their customer service sector be great. Unfortunately, they no longer have the budget as they’ve spent it on buying archers. I’m not mad. Just sharing my story and pointing out their priorities. I’m a small business owner like yourself. And you know as well as I do business is about relationships. This was a great way for them to retain a loyal customer. Instead, they’ve lost a loyal customer and 3 sales to date. I’m sure I can convert at least a few more dozen over the years. I’ve gone out of my way for customers just like I’m sure you have. Parts at cost is a small price to not pay to retain a customer. Again, it’s their business and this is how they choose to run it. I’m happier with my Lift so it all worked out for me. I’m curious to see how things play out for them. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
@@averagejackarchery You’re a business owner. Given the situation. What would you do? Greatly appreciate the dialogue.
@@Your_mom736 Absolutely appreciate the dialogue. For me, I have many customers like you in my store. Multiple bow purchases, often from one company. I would help on parts best I could. No need for a markup, but I would charge for labor. Which isn't grandiose for something like a cam change. I've never, ever, had a company just tell me to tell a customer to outright buy an entirely new bow. Now, given the cost of the bow per the costs of the new parts needed, it might be smart. I had a customer bring me a dry fired Bear bow he bought used and then dry fired. His investment was $300, but new cams and strings were going to run him over $300. In that case I definitely encouraged a new bow, as there's no sense starting with a used product and putting that much money into it. I had a gentleman bring me an old Mathews Creed. Limb was delaminating. Customer was original owner and wanted it replaced, but Mathews didn't want to outright warranty a bow of its age. I sold him parts at dealer cost and my labor and he resurrected his tried and true hunting partner.
@@averagejackarcheryon April 18th 2024 I had a cracked limb and cam with loose bearings on my mathews helim replaced through warranty, I would have been broken up if mathews refused due to the bows age, i would have looked for the limb online and replaced the bearings with premium ones had they not fulfilled the warranty. I really like my helim. I'm interested to know what happened to the customer with the creed, what did mathews do for that customer? I appreciate your channel and everything you do for the archery community.