The thing I dislike about Venice is that you lose the government type if you reform into other nations. I want to form Italy and keep the Venetian gov type without mods.
I think its every glass/gems province without a special modifier, so I think golconda in bahmanis can't either since it's already got like 5 goods produced or some shit like that, but chances are you won't be getting faceting outside of europe cuz of having to dev the institution
Venice can't spawn it, but it;'s each crystal/glass province with 15 dev, + 50 presitge and emraced renaissance. etc. "Is not the province of Venezia (112)" "Produces either trade good: Gems.png Gems Glass.png Glass"
This was me but with the Mamluks. I thought that the Ottos would eventually stop hating me but it didn't happen. When I quit the campaign, I was reduced to a couple of provinces down in Ethiopia
I went bankrupt for my my first time yesterday. I went from being able to have like hundreds of loans to 25. I had like 39. I don't understand how that happened. I went from one province vassal to four province independent. I just quit.
@James loam size changed to larger loans because of your dev. You need to consolidate debt and pay old loans. You probably went from 100s of 3 Ducat loans to 30, 15 Ducat loans. Probably more money overall but because you already had so many small loans you were over the limit
So Big mistake In first war against Byz give Constantinople to Naxos so you can spawn "Murano glass industry" event/modifier for province venetia (+2 goods produced) and also its very very very worthy to do knights mission (sell them ships until they have 100% naval force limit) then vassalize them , make them a march , give them allepo ("Restoration of the Hospitallers" event in which only knights can and will choose to get PERMA 10% morale and 10 National MP). Knights NI's are also very militaristic so mix it with previous modifiers and March Mechanics (Send officers interaction) to get a monsterous march .Since knights and Venice Are "Historical friends" one owning another as subject give -50% Liberty Desire which means: Massive Venice With Literallly Undefeatable,loyal,massive Knights of Rhoades. For example as in my game you would love to see 20K knights army stackwiping 36K of mameluks army in mountain province 💀.
Not really a "big mistake", he's just hashing out a very straightforward and clean campaign example to help newcomers to the game and/or people who've never played as Venice. Your strategy is definitely for more advanced players but it does sound super interesting and fun, (I didn't know you could do that as Venice). will definitely give it a try sometime.
One of my favourite games is a Venetian colinial. Just play normal until ypu take the red sea from the Mamluks. Then take exploration and expansion and you will get easily to Malacca, China and, after that, Australia, California, Mexico and the South of Africa, maybe buying some provinces from the Indian guys. So fun. I ended up with 26 merchants or something like that from colonial nations, trade companies (from Ragusa to Japan and South Africa).
I cant stop playing in Italy/the Med. The Balkans is one of the most interesting parts of the map early on too. Italy has so much replayability and a moderate but not too crazy challenge. The rewards are a powerful tall country early on with many Italian tags
Seeing Tafilalt's rise and fall and rise again in the bottom left corner of the screen was awesome. This is a really weird game altogether actually, just the Italian situation makes my head spin
My last savegame was a run for the "Venetian Sea" achievement, it was amazing how i could go double or later almost triple (like 160/60) over my naval force limit, just because trade income is so ridiculous, even with only 10 provinces. I think the additional cost for going over force limit was something around 75 ducats. I even upgraded the monuments in Byzantium and Bulgaria because there was nothing else to spend the money on. (Of course i went over land force limit aswell). Oh and i almost forgot, this all happened in the early 1500s!!
Venice is without contest my favorite nation, I just love playing with trade. In my last MP game with a player Austria, Teutons, Spain and Holland I was the richest nation by far for litteral centuries, I think my trade income alone is larger than the second richest nation's entire revenue (Spain). This was a friendly game between friends so obviously I wasn't in much danger against the other players, but I still sent a couple thousand ducats every few years to the others just because I had nothing to spend them on...
Seems in my few playthroughs ( though later versions ) that if you can keep even moderate/neutral relations with the pope( dont be rivals obviously), you can snipe italian nations through excommunication, really saves time and investment, keeps the map cool the earlier the better obviously. In example i had both milan and florence excomminucated, at which i fully annexed Flo and left Mil a 2pm, though their windows of being excommunicated were about 20 years apart. A massive haul of territory and value in italy early on, with roughly 1/4 the AE. I love being in europe sometimes lol.
I'm of the opinion that its worth it to release Moldavia and Wallachia or vassalize them. It's usually around a dozen or so cores you can pick up for near free, plus it lets you cut down Austria/Hungary and Poland/Lithuania a good bit too.
always triggers me, that you're using "conquer" to retake cores and not the "return cores" option.... pls don't get me wrong, i love your vids and your work! i just don't unterstand why you're doin it that way. would love to hear a explanation if you have any
Conquer uses the bonuses of your vassals while using return cores uses your bonuses, so sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesn't, it annoys me too tho dw.
Red Hawk, have you declare with Conquest CB on The Ottomans to reconquest Bulgaria cors? Just like in your "The Knights" video. This hearts my feelings...
The knights can be a useful ally against ottomans because of their fleet. If i am not wrong I think that they used to have a core on sugla so they will join ofensive wars.
I love your guides, but as a newer player I have no idea how to financially recover from loans are getting completed dominated by the nobility and would love a guide on how to do so
Mothball forts and lower army maintence when it's safe to do so. Sell land to estates for an injection of income. Lower army size if you can and fire advisors
Despite declaring war on the Ottomans while they're busy in Anatolia more than once happened that they still managed to attack me while sieging Gallipoli and had to restart...
Damn, I just started a venice game yesterday and did the same start alliances, took byz, fought ottomans a couple of times etc. Clearly I watch too many of your vids
New player here. I followed all the all the initial setups, (advisors, estates, etc.), and got my spy network up to 38 with a Spymaster(?) as one of my advisors -- yet only got to make a claim on one measly province (it was Corinth or Morea, not both) -- then promptly got my arse STOMPPED by a combo attack from Serbia & Herz the second I declared war on Byzantium. What am I getting wrong here?
Is it good as venice or any italian power, to go down to India then Malacca to get more money from trade ? What ideas would you take for this kind of expansion?
by the time you get range on your colonists to get to indonesia it will already be colonized by portugal and spain. unless you rush exploration and get cores in morocco
This is a great guide. But how do you avoid Bohemia allying with the Ottomans and then becoming emperor within the first five years while all your strong allies kill themselves?
I definitely can't recommend granting the orthodox religious autonomy. Because you are catholic you will have a naturally high intolerance towards heretics leaving the provinces with a lot of unrest. It basically means that the seperatism won't stop.
It used to be 10 states, but that must have been changed in one of the updates when governing capacity was introduced? Now the Venetian Government has a +25% governing capacity malice, but benefits from a -25% for trade companies.
Basically those strategies works only in one game and one game only. This session was lucky because no negative factors affected the play, e.g. Pope's after 1,5 years will exercise excommunication on Venice and bye-bye all Catholic allies. The raids of Tunisian pirates hasn't happened - they usually devastates Corfu, Crete and Negroponte. Byzantine fleet (and the Ottoman) are not sitting idle cowering in 'fear" of 15 Venetian galleys and operates freely, which means that there no way to gain any ships and so on. And it's a bad idea to take the land back from estates, because random events may bring Venice on the brink of revolt in those 1,5 years. And no oppo in any war? Haven't seen this ever. Can't say there's nothing useful though - trade advices, estates handling, fleet composition. Personally I think to go after Kosovo's gold mine ASAP, before Serbia allies themselves with Bosnia and Byz.
Ragusa signed treaties with the Ottoman Sultanate wherein the Ragusans would be protected from all attacks but had to pay something like 12k gold coins per year, they were an ottoman tributary and later were given exclusive trade rights (among europeans) in the black sea and handled some ottoman trade in the med. Whether this was intentionally done to weaken Venice idk, but it did
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The thing I dislike about Venice is that you lose the government type if you reform into other nations. I want to form Italy and keep the Venetian gov type without mods.
What mods do you use?
That defeats the whole purpose of becoming Italy
just FYI, venice cant spawn faceting, only crystal province in the game that cant AFAIK.
I think its every glass/gems province without a special modifier, so I think golconda in bahmanis can't either since it's already got like 5 goods produced or some shit like that, but chances are you won't be getting faceting outside of europe cuz of having to dev the institution
Venice can't spawn it, but it;'s each crystal/glass province with 15 dev, + 50 presitge and emraced renaissance. etc.
"Is not the province of Venezia (112)" "Produces either trade good:
Gems.png Gems
Glass.png Glass"
Seem to remember to has to do with the events Venice has to its historic glass production.
Venice technically can... taking Seina or Barcelona or Constantinople circumvents the "Not Venzina" requirement
what does AFAIK stand for?
Ah my first nation, I remember getting stack wiped multiple times every war and going bankrupt 5-6 times. Fun times
This was me but with the Mamluks. I thought that the Ottos would eventually stop hating me but it didn't happen. When I quit the campaign, I was reduced to a couple of provinces down in Ethiopia
@@Agora0000 I like how you just didn't stop playing
I went bankrupt for my my first time yesterday. I went from being able to have like hundreds of loans to 25. I had like 39. I don't understand how that happened. I went from one province vassal to four province independent. I just quit.
@@ohNojames that's happened to me as Byz. I think it's because of stability. Higher stab = more loans?
@James loam size changed to larger loans because of your dev. You need to consolidate debt and pay old loans. You probably went from 100s of 3 Ducat loans to 30, 15 Ducat loans. Probably more money overall but because you already had so many small loans you were over the limit
So Big mistake In first war against Byz give Constantinople to Naxos so you can spawn "Murano glass industry" event/modifier for province venetia (+2 goods produced) and also its very very very worthy to do knights mission (sell them ships until they have 100% naval force limit) then vassalize them , make them a march , give them allepo ("Restoration of the Hospitallers" event in which only knights can and will choose to get PERMA 10% morale and 10 National MP). Knights NI's are also very militaristic so mix it with previous modifiers and March Mechanics (Send officers interaction) to get a monsterous march .Since knights and Venice Are "Historical friends" one owning another as subject give -50% Liberty Desire which means: Massive Venice With Literallly Undefeatable,loyal,massive Knights of Rhoades.
For example as in my game you would love to see 20K knights army stackwiping 36K of mameluks army in mountain province 💀.
Not really a "big mistake", he's just hashing out a very straightforward and clean campaign example to help newcomers to the game and/or people who've never played as Venice. Your strategy is definitely for more advanced players but it does sound super interesting and fun, (I didn't know you could do that as Venice). will definitely give it a try sometime.
That is just disgusting, I love it!
@@INSANESUICIDE it's just awful the things Venice can do to people
What "knights mission" are you referencing? There is none that makes you vassalize them.
@@TheDanorte They're just saying vassalise them in the process, not that a mission vassalises them.
Bro a RedHawk and Laith speed5 commentary AND a RedHawk video in the same day. Dreams really do come true
One of my favourite games is a Venetian colinial. Just play normal until ypu take the red sea from the Mamluks. Then take exploration and expansion and you will get easily to Malacca, China and, after that, Australia, California, Mexico and the South of Africa, maybe buying some provinces from the Indian guys. So fun. I ended up with 26 merchants or something like that from colonial nations, trade companies (from Ragusa to Japan and South Africa).
I cant stop playing in Italy/the Med. The Balkans is one of the most interesting parts of the map early on too. Italy has so much replayability and a moderate but not too crazy challenge. The rewards are a powerful tall country early on with many Italian tags
I’d really like to see this campaign continue. Venice is just too much fun.
damn i literally started a venice campaign two days ago semi-following your 1.32 guide. Super fun nation tho
Seeing Tafilalt's rise and fall and rise again in the bottom left corner of the screen was awesome.
This is a really weird game altogether actually, just the Italian situation makes my head spin
This easy war with ottomans cost me about five hours of my life and was not easy at all haha
Great video as always
Great guide as per usual! Please consider making one about Genoa as well. 😊
My last savegame was a run for the "Venetian Sea" achievement, it was amazing how i could go double or later almost triple (like 160/60) over my naval force limit, just because trade income is so ridiculous, even with only 10 provinces. I think the additional cost for going over force limit was something around 75 ducats. I even upgraded the monuments in Byzantium and Bulgaria because there was nothing else to spend the money on. (Of course i went over land force limit aswell). Oh and i almost forgot, this all happened in the early 1500s!!
Thank you for putting out the awesome content, RH! I don't play EU4 much these days but I always enjoy your videos 😁
Venice is without contest my favorite nation, I just love playing with trade. In my last MP game with a player Austria, Teutons, Spain and Holland I was the richest nation by far for litteral centuries, I think my trade income alone is larger than the second richest nation's entire revenue (Spain). This was a friendly game between friends so obviously I wasn't in much danger against the other players, but I still sent a couple thousand ducats every few years to the others just because I had nothing to spend them on...
That's an insane Maghreb this game
Giving Constantinopole to naxos would trigger an event in which the city acquire goods produced modifier
I wish vassals wouldn't ask for mil access from absolutely everyone in a 9000k mile radius. Completely negating my blockades
~wants to indulge into calorie consumption
~opens youtube
~Hawk's posted
~Enjoys
I am still insisting on a Genoa guide towards the Roman Empire. Nice Venice guide btw
Seems in my few playthroughs ( though later versions ) that if you can keep even moderate/neutral relations with the pope( dont be rivals obviously), you can snipe italian nations through excommunication, really saves time and investment, keeps the map cool the earlier the better obviously. In example i had both milan and florence excomminucated, at which i fully annexed Flo and left Mil a 2pm, though their windows of being excommunicated were about 20 years apart. A massive haul of territory and value in italy early on, with roughly 1/4 the AE. I love being in europe sometimes lol.
I'm of the opinion that its worth it to release Moldavia and Wallachia or vassalize them. It's usually around a dozen or so cores you can pick up for near free, plus it lets you cut down Austria/Hungary and Poland/Lithuania a good bit too.
You don't want to revoke your guarantee over the Knights, they'll accept a diplo-vassalization and they have a core on the Ottos.
Ah another video I didn’t know I needed! Thanks heaps Red Hawk!
Any chance we could get the Livonian Order?
always triggers me, that you're using "conquer" to retake cores and not the "return cores" option.... pls don't get me wrong, i love your vids and your work! i just don't unterstand why you're doin it that way. would love to hear a explanation if you have any
Conquer uses the bonuses of your vassals while using return cores uses your bonuses, so sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesn't, it annoys me too tho dw.
21:19 the Balkans, the Ottomans, Italy.
OH THANK GOD FINALLY
VENICE LORE ADMIRER! FINALLY.
@@galeinnight bro... I worship venice
@@kahedakylar like I mean, viva viva viva la libarta...
@@kahedakylar Türkmüş bu?
@@galeinnight hayır ben has ve has venedikliyim
That Tafilalt 💀
Beautiful nation
Red Hawk, have you declare with Conquest CB on The Ottomans to reconquest Bulgaria cors? Just like in your "The Knights" video. This hearts my feelings...
Gotta do another Otto guide when 1.35 comes my guy
One of my favorite nations, oh yes
I would LOVE to see a Hungary guide!! PLEASE
got a revolt by following this guide
Defeat the Ottomans is a goal I can get behind!
Yes! Venice lets gooo
How could i annex my vassals faster ? Annexing Bulgaria would last about 20 years.
The knights can be a useful ally against ottomans because of their fleet. If i am not wrong I think that they used to have a core on sugla so they will join ofensive wars.
I love your guides, but as a newer player I have no idea how to financially recover from loans are getting completed dominated by the nobility and would love a guide on how to do so
Mothball forts and lower army maintence when it's safe to do so. Sell land to estates for an injection of income. Lower army size if you can and fire advisors
Despite declaring war on the Ottomans while they're busy in Anatolia more than once happened that they still managed to attack me while sieging Gallipoli and had to restart...
Bing chilling
Can you do a QQ/AQ guide?
Do Tibet guide please!
It is time for new Venice a to z ❤
I had an income of 600 ducats by 1750 as Venice. It was the biggest income I ever got
OH SHIT LET'S GOOOOO
Venice to Roman Empire is so easy i wish I played in higher difficulty
RIP Duke dell'Este
Great video but Red Hawk is so consistent in using the conquest CB and taking full AE when I think he means to use reconquest? 😂
Damn, I just started a venice game yesterday and did the same start alliances, took byz, fought ottomans a couple of times etc. Clearly I watch too many of your vids
New player here. I followed all the all the initial setups, (advisors, estates, etc.), and got my spy network up to 38 with a Spymaster(?) as one of my advisors -- yet only got to make a claim on one measly province (it was Corinth or Morea, not both) -- then promptly got my arse STOMPPED by a combo attack from Serbia & Herz the second I declared war on Byzantium. What am I getting wrong here?
Is it good as venice or any italian power, to go down to India then Malacca to get more money from trade ? What ideas would you take for this kind of expansion?
by the time you get range on your colonists to get to indonesia it will already be colonized by portugal and spain.
unless you rush exploration and get cores in morocco
@@spatrk6634with 1.37 dlc u can get there easy
you should have gone for Tripoli since it popped out probably with no allies in the beginning
Never ask a Venetian where they got the horses from.
This is a great guide. But how do you avoid Bohemia allying with the Ottomans and then becoming emperor within the first five years while all your strong allies kill themselves?
Simple, you don't.
I definitely can't recommend granting the orthodox religious autonomy. Because you are catholic you will have a naturally high intolerance towards heretics leaving the provinces with a lot of unrest. It basically means that the seperatism won't stop.
i cant declare with conquest on byzantinum it is normal or rare or smth?
That flag in the intro gives your logo some real Trump hair.
That's something you can't unsee
So you shouldn't worry about the 10 province cap from a merchant republic?
It used to be 10 states, but that must have been changed in one of the updates when governing capacity was introduced? Now the Venetian Government has a +25% governing capacity malice, but benefits from a -25% for trade companies.
Assignment not understood, Austria became a junior partner of Munich in 1445
the second after my first bite of the ottomans mamluks declared war and grabbed most of ottoman anatolia
🎶now the Venetians can get down to business 🎶
Also, doesn't Venice lend itself to playing tall not blobbing?
What happened to your world wales,Cornwall,Algiers,Tripoli all released
Anger is not the way of the jedi
SCOTLAND!
Ayuthaya guide please
does anybody know which font mod and country name bold text mod is he using? thnx
how did you annex byzantium so fast? im at 44 percent in 82
more diplomatic reputation you have draws more diplo points to make diplo annexation faster.
Venice desperately needs more flavor
Y E S
I did it
how do i select a specific ship
17:23 Serbia? junior partner? hmmm
Yeah I did this and got destroyed I suck lol
Go guide for mare Nostrum
How the hell are you getting tech so fast?
"I just took out new burger loans for about 1500 ducats" Just casual
is it?
What the hell happend to the maghreb? Tafilalt Gigachad
What if I don’t have any dlc tho
1.34 milan guide?
I don’t understand how in every video you upload, every country you play is either the BEST or the RICHEST… it just seem a bit clickbaiting
You used the "Conquest" cb instead of the "Reconquest" cb to reclaim Bulgaria's cores against the Ottomans 💀
You just love to do that, don't you 😅
Richer than the pope?!
Not a massive fan of releasing Byzantium…
Hi
Bye
:)
Hewwo
Hi
"this province" xd
But Ludi said its Britain ;)
Riga is ritcher
REDO FOR 1.35 PLEASE
Ah. Venice. The one nation I hate more than the Ottomans.
Quantity is a corrective for bad warfare micromanagement, it should never be taken.
i always take it.
since eu4 came out
this shows me how bad eu4 is with no DLC and it makes me sob when I play (with no DLC obviously)
venice is richest nation?) somewhere one UK is laughing
Basically those strategies works only in one game and one game only. This session was lucky because no negative factors affected the play, e.g. Pope's after 1,5 years will exercise excommunication on Venice and bye-bye all Catholic allies. The raids of Tunisian pirates hasn't happened - they usually devastates Corfu, Crete and Negroponte. Byzantine fleet (and the Ottoman) are not sitting idle cowering in 'fear" of 15 Venetian galleys and operates freely, which means that there no way to gain any ships and so on. And it's a bad idea to take the land back from estates, because random events may bring Venice on the brink of revolt in those 1,5 years. And no oppo in any war? Haven't seen this ever. Can't say there's nothing useful though - trade advices, estates handling, fleet composition. Personally I think to go after Kosovo's gold mine ASAP, before Serbia allies themselves with Bosnia and Byz.
Naples still better tho
is there any historic background about ottomans protecting ragusa?
Ragusa signed treaties with the Ottoman Sultanate wherein the Ragusans would be protected from all attacks but had to pay something like 12k gold coins per year, they were an ottoman tributary and later were given exclusive trade rights (among europeans) in the black sea and handled some ottoman trade in the med. Whether this was intentionally done to weaken Venice idk, but it did