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Matt Laidlaw matt adam Sandoval ever come to your shop yet... and thank you on breakout....its happening in march....i want the streetglide special but the purse might not cover ....we will see i let you know....but you give us all this help which helps me ....i thank you on your great videos really helps many of us
As a master technician, I definitely appreciate the engineering of everything. Like the anti backlash spring loaded gear drive for the counterbalancers. A lot of hate out there because the Dyna is gone. Some people hate change. But sometimes change is what you need to pull in new riders to the brand. Case in point; the V-Rod had the traditional bar and shield diehards saying they wouldn't be caught dead on one while outsiders said that is the only Harley they would ever consider buying.
Matt! Thank you for letting us hear from you and the engineers on this new lineup. I spent the afternoon volunteering at the H-D demo truck with the 2018 lineup! They're amazing. Harley-Davidson has really delivered this time! I got to move a few and helped get a lot of people take a demo ride. There will be another truck coming through in a few weeks and I'm gonna ride em.
+Charles David you're welcome. That's cool you got to work with the demo truck. Yea, if you get an opportunity to ride them ride as many as you can. They are awesome bikes.
4 minutes in, I love your work buddy, I´m still not sure about the looks, I think it looks odd at least on the low rider but all the technical info makes a big difference, this is the video the HD community needed to see to calm the hate waters jumping on your throats. Seeing it bare bones and hearing its all brand new engineering really gives a different perspective. I think I´m not going to hate these new version once the video is done, thanks Matt, you are the coolest and best informed Harley guy on youtube, glad to see your channel growing like a morning wood.
I purchased a 2018 Softail Heritage Classic back in Dec. I absolutely love this bike. The videos were extremely informative and exactly what us gearheads like. The info on the suspension and engine were awesome. I have been riding this bike a hell of lot more than my old bikes.It's that much fun!
Screw the haters Matt. This video is super informative. It also makes a lot of valid points. For those of us who remember when Harley first came out with the Evo, and what, rubbermounting(?), this is the Moco returning to it's roots. They've taken the best things about all of the bikes they've ever made, and combined them into a package that not only looks killer, but it very promising in it's delivery. Give it a little time. People will be flocking to buy them. By 2020, you'll see most of the people riding them. Same thing happened when the TC came out. At first everyone said, no way, but by 2001, most everyone I knew was on one. Great video. Your vids always explain leagues more than anyone else does. Thanks.
Matt Laidlaw during your time at the dealer meeting. Did anyone explain the reason behind smaller fuel tanks on some of the new softtail line? Thanks in advance
Matt, this is great. Thank you for bringing this to your channel. There's been so much speculation about the new chassis (not to mention a tsunami of complaints and hate), but this gives us the skinny straight from the source. Excellent. This is really the best coverage I've seen a week out from the announcement.
Hey Matt, just returned from the local dealership... ordered a 2018 softail classic anniversary 114... I am convinced Harley did the right thing. It's a huge step forward, i love those new softails.
I got 2019 FatBoy with 114 and I love it. Had it for about 3 months and put about 3k on it. So far so good, all the old dudes at my work got some Suzukis and my bike looks the best and sounds the best. Get compliments on it from all sorts of people. The bike is bad ASS, I really dig the new HD...... oh yes I also got newer 1000RR two different animals but love them both. Would I get another HD in the future, yes because an overall experience was pleasant from selecting the bike, their service and riding it. People who are considering of getting a new bike should give a new HD a chance.
Matt, your videos and exceptional efforts are to be commended, , I operate a small used harley shop in ontario canada and rely heavily on your videos to improve my knowledge, keep up the good work man.
Matt, dude, you have the best and most comprehensive videos. I really appreciate the time, effort and your patient educational approach. I just bought a 2020 Heritage and your content helped make my decision and informed one. I’m loving this bike so much more thank my 09 Road King. Thank you and ride on!
Hey guys in my introduction I totally forgot to mention the DELUXE! So you have 5 previous Softail models. Heritage Classic, Slim, Fatboy, Deluxe, Breakout. Then 3 Previous Dyna Models. Fatbob, Low Rider, Streetbob.
Great video Matt. Lots of great info. These bikes will be a hit! I'm looking forward to checking out the bikes and Laidlaw's Harley-Davidson while I'm down in L.A in October.
Great informative video Matt. It is a treat to listen to the engineers/subject matter experts who brainstormed and made the concepts into products. I'm sure people who are narrow-minded will criticize while watching 5 minutes of the video. These guys know what they are doing. They are evolving the bike while still keeping the soul of Harley Davidson. Thanks for the presentation and keep up what you're doing. You're informing the world with HD, which I think harley isn't giving much attention to. Cheers !!
Hey Matt, great work as always. Very informative video, especially cut out view and explained new features of bikes was awesome👍🏼 See you soon at your dealership for demo ride.
It was nice to hear the engineer still rides with spring cam tensioners. Now I know I am not alone. Changed the originals at 49,000 miles and have 32,000 on the second set. Neither failed, just kept an eye on them.
Matt...thanks for taking the time to interview the engineers that could explain the new softail frame and redesigned M8 engine. I haven't seen that anywhere else. Good job as always.
GREAT video, Matt. Really. I appreciate that Harley is starting to think about weight reduction. However, no disrespect meant, 30 pounds on a 316kg softail heritage is like putting makeup on your 90-year old grandma and say "see? She's a hottie now!". There is much more to be done, especially with the powertrain. Anyways it's a start, and I think ALL customers will appreciate that. Putting aside the rethoric "steel is better", noone prefers a heavier bike over a lighter one.
I'm pretty sure it does, but I bet it's more the stiffness of the frame than the actual weight loss. 15kgs on 316kgs is about 5%, so it is noticeable but not that much.
Thank-you Matt! We all have to take a step back at times. It's going to be alright. People were real verbal when we uncrated the first AMF bikes.... but we made it through and are still here! The engineers have done an amazing job! Hard to imagine the scope and breadth of work that has gone into this re-design! They have given us lighter and stronger, better handling, and more powerful motorcycles. Every rider should consider ownership of a real motorcycle now! Going down my Dealership now on the awesome M8! So excited for all! Market these bad boys and sell, sell, sell!
Way to start the 2018 season Matt! This group of videos from the Dealers Assn. Show was awesome - and meeting Scott was very cool too! I'll be visiting my ATL dealer soon to see 'em in person. Thanks for another of your always informative and entertaining videos - your videos are the BEST
Fantastic video as usual. Just one doubt: on the bikes that do not have the external knob to tune the rear suspension, is it necessary to take the seat off or something else in order to adjust the pre-load of the shock ?
Love your videos! I'm a seasoned sport bike rider now for 11 years. And I'm finally making the transition into Harley and I'm looking at your videos as to which binge would be the best choice for me taking into consideration that I ride 130 miles a day for work and my question is would you recommend the Fat Bob as a good choice for me? I was thinking of the 48 but you said it's only 5 gears and 2.5 gal tank wasn't good for the longer rides even though it has great has mileage.
Great video! Your vids are the best on RUclips. I had the opportunity to ride the 2018 Heritage twice this weekend. WOW! For me, this is the best and most fun Harley I have ever ridden. Suspension was everything I hoped it would be, the 114 is incredible and the breaks are fantastic! I will be an owner soon. Too much fun!
Great video (again). Bought a sport glide in 2018, got 66.000 km on the display, so…I’m very glad. Wrote a letter to Harley to get more info about the process of designing. No answer at all. So thank you filling that gap!
Hello Matt, Thank you so much for bringing us in to the dealer show and giving your viewers a inside view. Being a precision machinists and have worked with mechanical engineers I was especially interested listening to both engineers as they walked us through. After viewing your live dealer show and seeing the direction Harley is moving in performance frame geometry and suspension systems...my gut feeling is Harley Davidson will begin to redesign a high performance frame and platform for the touring models next! Lighter, more rigid, faster, better performance in terms of handling... thus safer for everyone riding one.. Great to see Harley is moving to performance oriented chassis designs. Thank you Matt.
I'm so glad i waited for the new 2018 models,i'm kinda sad they did nothing with Road King but i was thinking about the Fat boy for my next bike,this video just sold me on it. Ty for the detailed information Matt.
I owned a 99 FXDX and a 06 Softail Night train for many years. I just bought a 20 Fat Bob. This new chassis is superior in everyway period! Furthermore, the M8 motor is more powerful, smooth and refined. HD nailed it with this new platform!
Matt , I'm picking up my New 17 CVO Limited this weekend ! Getting the detach tourpack installed First. Thanks for all your helpful INFO . This video was Great, got a good feel for all the new changes. It does make me wonder if the Limited is set for huge changes TOO. I can't wait forever to upgrade ! Bob
Thanks for sharing Matt. You, Ben and Vern gave some great information. People don't like having their cheese moved but its going to happen. Just hope all of these changes makes H-D better & stronger so they are around for a lot longer.
Wow great changes and they listened good to their customers... all the weak spots are gone now with the softails, super ! Can't wait to see them when they roll them in to Europe ! Thx Matt for the nice & detailed info on the new softails ;)
I'm currently thinking of consolidating down to one bike while also switching to Harley. Considering a Road King but these softails are impressive. Which one would be a good all-rounder, capable of occasional touring & long days in the saddle? Great vid.thx.
mindfield7 Probably the Roadking. It's still early in the year and I don't have enough saddle time to give a fair answer yet. It also depends on your size.
+Matt Laidlaw ok thanks- I'll see if I can do some test rides- I'm 6'0 220# - I really like the looks of the low rider and new heritage but I'm afraid they both may be a little cramped.
I rode a 2018 114 Breakout and comparing it to mine it handles better than mine :( you can actually take a 2018 Harley Breakout to the twisties now !!!
Great video. I appreciate the fact Harley took a chance and updated their lineup. Now I'm waiting to see if it's aftermarket friendly or if it's going to harder to modify like newer cars.
Another great video. Thanks so much for doing this. Very much looking forward to demo day. I bought the 2017 flhr last October. I have a little over 12000 miles on the new bike and very happy so I expect the 107 and 114 softtail bikes will be a ton of fun to ride.
I totally agree with what Stretch Man stated.....a lot of these haters are just on here to piss off the HD loyalist.....I've been on HD for over 40 years & having had many many of( all) platforms....Motor Company is going in the right direction....things change/update/upgrade/phase in-out but, the idea is to make a better quality product....while we don't always agree with some of the changes, you can't just stay in neutral......remember the old(old) days???.....Matt keep on doing honest video reviews & we'll keep on watching !!
Thanks for this video, Matt. Being an engineer myself I appreciate hearing from the designers of these great new bikes. Thanks also for all the softail reviews. I'm pretty sure I'll be picking up either a Heritidge Classic or Sport Glide this summer, just need to test ride them once we thaw out here in Indy!
Very well explained the new frame and chassis, a lot of time experience and development gone into these new bikes. I personally love the new Fat Boy, going to view them soon here in the UK.
Always awesome videos Matt... Can't wait to see your reviews on the bikes... Yesterday was supposed to be demo day at my local dealer but cancelled due to rain...can't wait to ride some of the new bikes!
Hola Matt, I’m late to the party but finally living the dream. I love this deep dive mentality, Retired Submarine Warfare and Surface Warfare sailor. We believe in knowing almost as much as the engineer on everything. Four weeks ago I purchased my first Harley, a 2020 Fat Boy with 160 miles on it. I tried to get one from Tokyo H-D in 2000 when I was living there but Japan had restrictions on the size of everything imported. I have tripled the number of miles and just purchased a Scream’n 🦅 HB Elite, Woods 22XE, Two Brothers Turnout 2-into-1, 8” rise, 1.5” T-Bar because the Saddlemen Explorer bumped me up and forward. 6’1 280lbs. I will run that for a few years as I have set a good foundation for a big bore, CNC header, and large throttle body. I will finish my LED Mods with a pulsating brake strip under the finder to complement the 7” Adaptive 2, and the turn signals all around. I am spying a set of two finger triggers as well. Matt you are easy to trust, but it is almost uncanny, your perception and your ability to see where HD is heading before they get there. I don’t need validation for my purchase or modifications, but I must admit It feels good to know my thoughts on the Milwaukee 8 are shared. Yes, after all the issues it is where HD should be going while allowing for more out of every Mod. These cutaways are priceless, giving us an unrestricted peek behind the curtain to what is quite simply a work of art. Thank you kindly. (SS/SW/MTS) USN, Ret. 🦅 of a 🪶
I was a die hard Dyna head still am but I fell in love with the heritage all black 😍😍 bought her and still got my fxd no way in hell im getting rid of my superglide but man this Heritage is amazing THIS ISNT YOUR GRANPA’s HERITAGE ANYMORE lol us young guys are riding these babies hard!
Best video I have seen from the new softail. You almost convinced me. Altough I think I will keep up with my 2000 sportster and 2004 dyna! Old harleys are made to last, these are made for EPA.
Best video on new models by far. Great information. My daily fatboy ride is 21 years old. Id never sell it, but i actually really like the 2018 fatboy. Great video, thanks
Hello Matt, Thanks for the new softails video. My question is, is it possible to upgrade the 2018 softail slim rear tire, with a wider 200 tire, and change the rear fender to bob fender, to get the exact rear look of the 2011 softail cross bones . Thanks
+Sam Shms I don't know the for sure answer here but I seriously doubt you can put a 200 mm rear tire on there with the stock swing arm and spacing. I'm sure you could put a bobbed fender if you can find one that fits that frame which I don't know if it exists yet.
Good job on the information Matt 🤙🏼 however, the engineer obviously had to "dodge" the cam chain vs gear question. He wouldn't be able to publicly state that HD doesn't see the need to spend the extra time and money to provide a crank shaft runout that would support gear driven cams.
Nice overview Matt. There are many needed handling modifications addressed in the new model Softails. I did not feel that you received an adequate answer to, Why has the motor company stayed with a chain drive and not changed to a gear drive cam system? I can not be sure but a gear drive cam system requires very close tolerance on "run out" ( .000" to .003" ) on the main drive gear or pinion shaft. That might be too difficult of a challenge for mass production quality control without some kind of compensating system. I know the factory spec tolerance on my twin cam is ( 0" to .010" ). What do you think ?
Great video Matt. It does not get more technical then this. I can't believe some people hit the dislike button. Beyond me!!!! Sometimes, I feel like slapping the shit out of these snowflakes and blame it on climate change! I'm a sport bike kind of guy but a hugh fan of Harley Davidson. Awesome pieces of machinery . I appreciate all makes and model. Ride what you want as long as it puts a grin on your face but,don't bash and trash talk what you don't know. I can't wait to ride a HD soon. Great info man! Big fan!
Remus LA ..my bike is a 2012 Wide Glide and I have no issues with guys who ride other bikes. Can't really see the street bike thing but that's just me. My brother has 6 bikes and 4 of those being Shovel heads, one Evo and a new Bagger. His 1st bike was a shaft drive Kawasaki and that bike rode sweet. I say just ride,don't hate and keep the rubber on the road.
Matt, Another terrific video, extremely informative. Would you be so kind as to let me know the difference in the front & rear seat comfort between the Fatboy and the Heritage Softail models. I am interested in upgrading from my '17 1200 Custom to one of these two bikes. I would put a windshield and bags on the Fatboy, just like the Heritage has (from the factory). Also, any idea why the Heritage does not come standard with a backrest? Thanks for all you do!
+Kevin Fasone from just sitting on them at a stand-still the heritage is definitely more comfy. The Fatboy is kinda carved out as a "boulevard cruiser". It's got more of a firm seat to it. The passenger seat is not comfortable at all. The heritage has some passenger comfort. I really don't know why they did away with the passenger back rest. If you're gonna put bags and a windshield on the Fatboy I would absolutely just go with the heritage.
Matt Laidlaw - Thank you Matt for taking the time to answer my questions, I appreciate it! I think at this point I will eventually test ride the '18 Heritage & the '18 Road King and choose our upgrade from there. We aren't looking to go across the country, however, hours of cruising comfort are important to both my wife and I. I do not care for the fairing look, therefore, other touring models are not of interest to me. The 1200 is our first bike & we love the Harley experience! Keep the vid's coming, you do a spectacular job.... I watch them all! -all the best
That frame is such a nice looking piece of hardware, it looks beautiful. Huge improvement over the bikes it replaces. Wish they would have done a gear driven cam. If they changed to gear driven counter balancers, then why not the cam. It would put my mind at ease. Thanks for the video Matt! Hopefully I can buy one of these in a year or two.
An excellent presentation Matt. One thing that we are losing is the price point of the Dyna. During a time when paychecks are being squeezed and sales can be expected to be under pressure with low consumer price elasticity... and Harley sheds the dyna? Better bikes? ...maybe. Cool bikes? eh.. Nothing beats the cool of the Wide Glide... better performance? Yes, but compare this to a KTM Super Duke or a Ducati Diavel and it looks childish. A step forward: for the rich man yes, for the working man... I don't think so. Harley still makes the best touring bikes though... at least that hasn't changed. Ride an American Made bike to see America... nothing like it.
Matt, Very impressive and well detail videos. Love them all. Fyi. I did have a chance try to ride on Fat Bob and Breakout with 114 engine both bikes are really phenomenal. Forget the OLD Dyna and even Breakout these 2 new bikes are very nimble and easy to turn especially Fat Bob with 114 like a rocket. Thanks Bro for all the information that you shared.
Thanks for the info Matt not much info here in Australia yet. Just at quick question ( you have probably already covered) are they still air cooled or oil cooled
Give those men a raise! Harley nailed it. Two questions. 1. Does the kickstand still lock? 2. Are they using a Lithium battery? Sure don't seem like there's enough room for a lead acid. Thanks for those interviews. Very informative.
saddlebag yes. You can pull the bike forward and drag it on the ground and the kick stand will be locked into place. The only bike you can't do this with is the Street lineup. The battery is the same. It isn't lithium.
Thanks Matt, I seen a rear fender kit for a Slim I liked from Ricks motorcycles. I thought of getting the heritage for the 114 motor and bobbing it out with his fender kits and a few other kits mixed together to create a unique bike for me. I like what your friend Jamie did to his. Very awesome bike.
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Thany you for INTEL Matt.....im in tampa area .....my first bike will be the new breakout 18.....your info helps fpr sure ....happy new year!!!!!
Thank you! Enjoy the Breakout!
Matt Laidlaw matt adam Sandoval ever come to your shop yet... and thank you on breakout....its happening in march....i want the streetglide special but the purse might not cover ....we will see i let you know....but you give us all this help which helps me ....i thank you on your great videos really helps many of us
Great video to trigger a mindset change. You are truly my one source on HD.
Bargu Erpi Thanks brother.
As a master technician, I definitely appreciate the engineering of everything. Like the anti backlash spring loaded gear drive for the counterbalancers. A lot of hate out there because the Dyna is gone. Some people hate change. But sometimes change is what you need to pull in new riders to the brand. Case in point; the V-Rod had the traditional bar and shield diehards saying they wouldn't be caught dead on one while outsiders said that is the only Harley they would ever consider buying.
+TheRobSJ true.
Matt! Thank you for letting us hear from you and the engineers on this new lineup. I spent the afternoon volunteering at the H-D demo truck with the 2018 lineup! They're amazing. Harley-Davidson has really delivered this time! I got to move a few and helped get a lot of people take a demo ride. There will be another truck coming through in a few weeks and I'm gonna ride em.
+Charles David you're welcome. That's cool you got to work with the demo truck. Yea, if you get an opportunity to ride them ride as many as you can. They are awesome bikes.
4 minutes in, I love your work buddy, I´m still not sure about the looks, I think it looks odd at least on the low rider but all the technical info makes a big difference, this is the video the HD community needed to see to calm the hate waters jumping on your throats. Seeing it bare bones and hearing its all brand new engineering really gives a different perspective. I think I´m not going to hate these new version once the video is done, thanks Matt, you are the coolest and best informed Harley guy on youtube, glad to see your channel growing like a morning wood.
David James LOL. Thanks man.
I purchased a 2018 Softail Heritage Classic back in Dec. I absolutely love this bike. The videos were extremely informative and exactly what us gearheads like. The info on the suspension and engine were awesome. I have been riding this bike a hell of lot more than my old bikes.It's that much fun!
Thanks for taking the time to go in to all this detail Matt.
Screw the haters Matt. This video is super informative. It also makes a lot of valid points. For those of us who remember when Harley first came out with the Evo, and what, rubbermounting(?), this is the Moco returning to it's roots. They've taken the best things about all of the bikes they've ever made, and combined them into a package that not only looks killer, but it very promising in it's delivery.
Give it a little time. People will be flocking to buy them. By 2020, you'll see most of the people riding them. Same thing happened when the TC came out. At first everyone said, no way, but by 2001, most everyone I knew was on one.
Great video. Your vids always explain leagues more than anyone else does. Thanks.
Stretch Man,
I couldn't have said it better myself, Brother.
Stretch Man agreed. Thanks man
Matt Laidlaw during your time at the dealer meeting. Did anyone explain the reason behind smaller fuel tanks on some of the new softtail line? Thanks in advance
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Wanted to say Thank You Matt !! for all you do for us.Viewers
Matt, this is great. Thank you for bringing this to your channel. There's been so much speculation about the new chassis (not to mention a tsunami of complaints and hate), but this gives us the skinny straight from the source. Excellent. This is really the best coverage I've seen a week out from the announcement.
The more I learn about these 2018 model softails, the more impressed I am. I just can't make up my mind on which one I want!
Hey Matt, just returned from the local dealership... ordered a 2018 softail classic anniversary 114... I am convinced Harley did the right thing. It's a huge step forward, i love those new softails.
I got 2019 FatBoy with 114 and I love it. Had it for about 3 months and put about 3k on it. So far so good, all the old dudes at my work got some Suzukis and my bike looks the best and sounds the best. Get compliments on it from all sorts of people. The bike is bad ASS, I really dig the new HD...... oh yes I also got newer 1000RR two different animals but love them both. Would I get another HD in the future, yes because an overall experience was pleasant from selecting the bike, their service and riding it. People who are considering of getting a new bike should give a new HD a chance.
Another great video Matt, the engineers were awesome!
Matt, your videos and exceptional efforts are to be commended, , I operate a small used harley shop in ontario canada and rely heavily on your videos to improve my knowledge, keep up the good work man.
Matt, dude, you have the best and most comprehensive videos. I really appreciate the time, effort and your patient educational approach. I just bought a 2020 Heritage and your content helped make my decision and informed one. I’m loving this bike so much more thank my 09 Road King. Thank you and ride on!
Hey guys in my introduction I totally forgot to mention the DELUXE! So you have 5 previous Softail models. Heritage Classic, Slim, Fatboy, Deluxe, Breakout. Then 3 Previous Dyna Models. Fatbob, Low Rider, Streetbob.
Matt Laidlaw Any soft tail models with a 5 gallon tank?
i think the deluxe has a 5 gal
Love the video! The info is superb, and it's obvious the bikes are as well! Can't wait to see the riding videos. Thanks!
Great video Matt. Lots of great info. These bikes will be a hit! I'm looking forward to checking out the bikes and Laidlaw's Harley-Davidson while I'm down in L.A in October.
Great informative video Matt. It is a treat to listen to the engineers/subject matter experts who brainstormed and made the concepts into products. I'm sure people who are narrow-minded will criticize while watching 5 minutes of the video. These guys know what they are doing. They are evolving the bike while still keeping the soul of Harley Davidson. Thanks for the presentation and keep up what you're doing. You're informing the world with HD, which I think harley isn't giving much attention to. Cheers !!
+Chris Pantaleon Thanks Chris.
Hey Matt, great work as always. Very informative video, especially cut out view and explained new features of bikes was awesome👍🏼
See you soon at your dealership for demo ride.
I was a bit skeptical at first but after watching some ride reviews I am so exited! I can't wait to try one!
Watching this makes me so proud of my ‘21 softail!! 👀
Can't wait for the reviews on each one! It's like the only reason I even open the RUclips app anymore. 99% of the reason. Long Live Harley Davidson!
+Spartan_300 haha. Thanks.
It was nice to hear the engineer still rides with spring cam tensioners. Now I know I am not alone. Changed the originals at 49,000 miles and have 32,000 on the second set. Neither failed, just kept an eye on them.
Thank you for saying the date. It really does help.
Harley Davidson finally entered the XXI century.Great informative video! Thanks!
Matt...thanks for taking the time to interview the engineers that could explain the new softail frame and redesigned M8 engine. I haven't seen that anywhere else. Good job as always.
Thank you!
GREAT video, Matt. Really.
I appreciate that Harley is starting to think about weight reduction. However, no disrespect meant, 30 pounds on a 316kg softail heritage is like putting makeup on your 90-year old grandma and say "see? She's a hottie now!". There is much more to be done, especially with the powertrain.
Anyways it's a start, and I think ALL customers will appreciate that. Putting aside the rethoric "steel is better", noone prefers a heavier bike over a lighter one.
Francesco Galli it makes a biggger Difference than you think. You'd be surprised.
I'm pretty sure it does, but I bet it's more the stiffness of the frame than the actual weight loss. 15kgs on 316kgs is about 5%, so it is noticeable but not that much.
Francesco Galli yea. The frame stiffness makes a big difference.
Thank-you Matt! We all have to take a step back at times. It's going to be alright. People were real verbal when we uncrated the first AMF bikes.... but we made it through and are still here! The engineers have done an amazing job! Hard to imagine the scope and breadth of work that has gone into this re-design! They have given us lighter and stronger, better handling, and more powerful motorcycles. Every rider should consider ownership of a real motorcycle now! Going down my Dealership now on the awesome M8! So excited for all! Market these bad boys and sell, sell, sell!
Way to start the 2018 season Matt! This group of videos from the Dealers Assn. Show was awesome - and meeting Scott was very cool too! I'll be visiting my ATL dealer soon to see 'em in person. Thanks for another of your always informative and entertaining videos - your videos are the BEST
+manseated Thank you sir. 😎
Excellent and very informative Softail review. Thanks Matt! OG
Great videos from the convention Matt, thanks for taking the trouble to do it, super informative.
Looks like a sensational new lineup from HD. Can't wait until these new models arrive here in Australia.
Fantastic video as usual. Just one doubt: on the bikes that do not have the external knob to tune the rear suspension, is it necessary to take the seat off or something else in order to adjust the pre-load of the shock ?
Love your videos! I'm a seasoned sport bike rider now for 11 years. And I'm finally making the transition into Harley and I'm looking at your videos as to which binge would be the best choice for me taking into consideration that I ride 130 miles a day for work and my question is would you recommend the Fat Bob as a good choice for me? I was thinking of the 48 but you said it's only 5 gears and 2.5 gal tank wasn't good for the longer rides even though it has great has mileage.
Great video! Your vids are the best on RUclips. I had the opportunity to ride the 2018 Heritage twice this weekend. WOW! For me, this is the best and most fun Harley I have ever ridden. Suspension was everything I hoped it would be, the 114 is incredible and the breaks are fantastic! I will be an owner soon. Too much fun!
Great video (again). Bought a sport glide in 2018, got 66.000 km on the display, so…I’m very glad. Wrote a letter to Harley to get more info about the process of designing. No answer at all. So thank you filling that gap!
Thanks Matt. Another awesome video. Can't wait to ride one of the new Softails.
another good video nice explanation of the new frame. i love my 2017 low rider but i gotta take a ride on one of these soft tails now.
I got the 2019 low rider I'm in love the ride is just incredible
Hello Matt, Thank you so much for bringing us in to the dealer show and giving your viewers a inside view. Being a precision machinists and have worked with mechanical engineers I was especially interested listening to both engineers as they walked us through. After viewing your live dealer show and seeing the direction Harley is moving in performance frame geometry and suspension systems...my gut feeling is Harley Davidson will begin to redesign a high performance frame and platform for the touring models next! Lighter, more rigid, faster, better performance in terms of handling... thus safer for everyone riding one.. Great to see Harley is moving to performance oriented chassis designs. Thank you Matt.
Michael Gurgone you may be right
I'm so glad i waited for the new 2018 models,i'm kinda sad they did nothing with Road King but i was thinking about the Fat boy for my next bike,this video just sold me on it. Ty for the detailed information Matt.
Awesome, Informative, educational and diggin the new 2018 Softaill Chassis.
Glad to see Harley wised up and started nutting the flywheels back together!!
I owned a 99 FXDX and a 06 Softail Night train for many years. I just bought a 20 Fat Bob. This new chassis is superior in everyway period! Furthermore, the M8 motor is more powerful, smooth and refined. HD nailed it with this new platform!
The new Harleys are freaking awesome!
Matt , I'm picking up my New 17 CVO Limited this weekend ! Getting the detach tourpack installed First. Thanks for all your helpful INFO . This video was Great, got a good feel for all the new changes. It does make me wonder if the Limited is set for huge changes TOO. I can't wait forever to upgrade ! Bob
+bob clapper congrats on the new CVO. THe Limited just got its huge changes. Rushmore Project and the Milwaukee 8. I think you're safe for awhile.
Matt I said it once say it again you make the best Harley videos on RUclips great job and thanks
+Steven Miller Thanks man.
Great vid. I like the line up..........and I still have my FXR
Thanks for sharing Matt. You, Ben and Vern gave some great information. People don't like having their cheese moved but its going to happen. Just hope all of these changes makes H-D better & stronger so they are around for a lot longer.
+Robert DeMilo thanks brother.
Superb work on your video as always Matt, thanks for sharing it!! Greetings from Mexico City Man!!
Wow great changes and they listened good to their customers... all the weak spots are gone now with the softails, super ! Can't wait to see them when they roll them in to Europe ! Thx Matt for the nice & detailed info on the new softails ;)
Thanks. Good video. Watching your videos is a nice way to shop for a bike.
+Cornelius X thanks
I'm currently thinking of consolidating down to one bike while also switching to Harley. Considering a Road King but these softails are impressive.
Which one would be a good all-rounder, capable of occasional touring & long days in the saddle? Great vid.thx.
mindfield7 Probably the Roadking. It's still early in the year and I don't have enough saddle time to give a fair answer yet. It also depends on your size.
+Matt Laidlaw ok thanks- I'll see if I can do some test rides- I'm 6'0 220# - I really like the looks of the low rider and new heritage but I'm afraid they both may be a little cramped.
Looks like mono shock removal for battery change, is this correct Matt?
Nor-Cal Refrigeration & H.V.A.C no. It comes out the side
Matt Laidlaw perfect thank you👍
Do they still have the standard HD locking side stand? can you still push it forward and back on that stand?
I rode a 2018 114 Breakout and comparing it to mine it handles better than mine :( you can actually take a 2018 Harley Breakout to the twisties now !!!
Dont get jealous
You're making a fool of yourself online
OK Black Dog now I am curious, what do the folks in the Empire City MC suggest we ride?
Black Dog my 1981 yz465 has a similar rear suspension
I think I will keep my 2016 Breakout forever. I changed tires to the Metzeler.
The bike is now more easily willing to get into the turns and corners.
Great job Matt, answered a lot of my questions.
Thanks Matt for another excellent video.
Thanks Matt very informative, job well done.
Excellent video, great commentary and camera work.
l have a 92 softail custom she is just fine for me evo is the best there is and ever will be!! thanks for the vid
Great video. I appreciate the fact Harley took a chance and updated their lineup. Now I'm waiting to see if it's aftermarket friendly or if it's going to harder to modify like newer cars.
Another great video. Thanks so much for doing this. Very much looking forward to demo day.
I bought the 2017 flhr last October. I have a little over 12000 miles on the new bike and very happy so I expect the 107 and 114 softtail bikes will be a ton of fun to ride.
Pegleg Rob nice man.
Awesomeness Matt....got me sold....will be my first bike
thanks for the vid matt, love the changes they have made and cant wait to test ride one
digger4rar Ride one. You'll like it.
I totally agree with what Stretch Man stated.....a lot of these haters are just on here to piss off the HD loyalist.....I've been on HD for over 40 years & having had many many of( all) platforms....Motor Company is going in the right direction....things change/update/upgrade/phase in-out but, the idea is to make a better quality product....while we don't always agree with some of the changes, you can't just stay in neutral......remember the old(old) days???.....Matt keep on doing honest video reviews & we'll keep on watching !!
+Gary Smith Thank you. The man at the top will always have plenty of haters.
How the he'll do you replace the battery?
Thanks for this video, Matt. Being an engineer myself I appreciate hearing from the designers of these great new bikes. Thanks also for all the softail reviews. I'm pretty sure I'll be picking up either a Heritidge Classic or Sport Glide this summer, just need to test ride them once we thaw out here in Indy!
Both great bikes man. The 2018 softails are just great all around motorcycles.
Very well explained the new frame and chassis, a lot of time experience and development gone into these new bikes. I personally love the new Fat Boy, going to view them soon here in the UK.
Love the Street Bob, saving my lunch money to pick one up as soon as I can.
I gotta say...I'm kinda excited about looking getting my hands on a new softail!
Always awesome videos Matt... Can't wait to see your reviews on the bikes... Yesterday was supposed to be demo day at my local dealer but cancelled due to rain...can't wait to ride some of the new bikes!
+Jason Gordon Thank you. Yes, test ride one when you get a chance. They are a lot of fun.
Hola Matt, I’m late to the party but finally living the dream. I love this deep dive mentality, Retired Submarine Warfare and Surface Warfare sailor. We believe in knowing almost as much as the engineer on everything. Four weeks ago I purchased my first Harley, a 2020 Fat Boy with 160 miles on it. I tried to get one from Tokyo H-D in 2000 when I was living there but Japan had restrictions on the size of everything imported. I have tripled the number of miles and just purchased a Scream’n 🦅 HB Elite, Woods 22XE, Two Brothers Turnout 2-into-1, 8” rise, 1.5” T-Bar because the Saddlemen Explorer bumped me up and forward. 6’1 280lbs. I will run that for a few years as I have set a good foundation for a big bore, CNC header, and large throttle body. I will finish my LED Mods with a pulsating brake strip under the finder to complement the 7” Adaptive 2, and the turn signals all around. I am spying a set of two finger triggers as well.
Matt you are easy to trust, but it is almost uncanny, your perception and your ability to see where HD is heading before they get there. I don’t need validation for my purchase or modifications, but I must admit It feels good to know my thoughts on the Milwaukee 8 are shared. Yes, after all the issues it is where HD should be going while allowing for more out of every Mod. These cutaways are priceless, giving us an unrestricted peek behind the curtain to what is quite simply a work of art. Thank you kindly. (SS/SW/MTS) USN, Ret. 🦅 of a 🪶
Thank you for the comment. I appreciate the compliment. Enjoy the Fatboy 👊🏼
Great informative video. I just wish HD would make a bigger bike. They make all their bikes for people somewhere in the 5' to 5'10" range.
Great new bikes from HARLEY-DAVIDSON !!
I was a die hard Dyna head still am but I fell in love with the heritage all black 😍😍 bought her and still got my fxd no way in hell im getting rid of my superglide but man this Heritage is amazing THIS ISNT YOUR GRANPA’s HERITAGE ANYMORE lol us young guys are riding these babies hard!
Best video I have seen from the new softail. You almost convinced me. Altough I think I will keep up with my 2000 sportster and 2004 dyna! Old harleys are made to last, these are made for EPA.
What information thank you Matt the more you look at the new bikes the more you like them the fat boy is really awesome
Best video on new models by far. Great information.
My daily fatboy ride is 21 years old. Id never sell it, but i actually really like the 2018 fatboy.
Great video, thanks
Adam P. Keep riding it! Thank you!
Hello Matt, Thanks for the new softails video. My question is, is it possible to upgrade the 2018 softail slim rear tire, with a wider 200 tire, and change the rear fender to bob fender, to get the exact rear look of the 2011 softail cross bones . Thanks
+Sam Shms I don't know the for sure answer here but I seriously doubt you can put a 200 mm rear tire on there with the stock swing arm and spacing. I'm sure you could put a bobbed fender if you can find one that fits that frame which I don't know if it exists yet.
Good job on the information Matt 🤙🏼 however, the engineer obviously had to "dodge" the cam chain vs gear question. He wouldn't be able to publicly state that HD doesn't see the need to spend the extra time and money to provide a crank shaft runout that would support gear driven cams.
thanks for this upload it explain alot and answered some questions i had.. when i get back to the states i will buy a new bike.. Thanks Matt
Nice overview Matt. There are many needed handling modifications addressed in the new model Softails. I did not feel that you received an adequate answer to, Why has the motor company stayed with a chain drive and not changed to a gear drive cam system? I can not be sure but a gear drive cam system requires very close tolerance on "run out" ( .000" to .003" ) on the main drive gear or pinion shaft. That might be too difficult of a challenge for mass production quality control without some kind of compensating system. I know the factory spec tolerance on my twin cam is ( 0" to .010" ). What do you think ?
+Joe Russo I think you're exactly right. I will say with the hydraulic tensioner they solved the problem.
Great video Matt. It does not get more technical then this. I can't believe some people hit the dislike button. Beyond me!!!! Sometimes, I feel like slapping the shit out of these snowflakes and blame it on climate change! I'm a sport bike kind of guy but a hugh fan of Harley Davidson. Awesome pieces of machinery . I appreciate all makes and model. Ride what you want as long as it puts a grin on your face but,don't bash and trash talk what you don't know. I can't wait to ride a HD soon. Great info man! Big fan!
Remus LA thanks man. I'm glad some people can enjoy different bikes but still respect others for their preferences.
Remus LA ..my bike is a 2012 Wide Glide and I have no issues with guys who ride other bikes. Can't really see the street bike thing but that's just me. My brother has 6 bikes and 4 of those being Shovel heads, one Evo and a new Bagger. His 1st bike was a shaft drive Kawasaki and that bike rode sweet. I say just ride,don't hate and keep the rubber on the road.
Matt, Another terrific video, extremely informative. Would you be so kind as to let me know the difference in the front & rear seat comfort between the Fatboy and the Heritage Softail models. I am interested in upgrading from my '17 1200 Custom to one of these two bikes. I would put a windshield and bags on the Fatboy, just like the Heritage has (from the factory). Also, any idea why the Heritage does not come standard with a backrest? Thanks for all you do!
+Kevin Fasone from just sitting on them at a stand-still the heritage is definitely more comfy. The Fatboy is kinda carved out as a "boulevard cruiser". It's got more of a firm seat to it. The passenger seat is not comfortable at all. The heritage has some passenger comfort. I really don't know why they did away with the passenger back rest. If you're gonna put bags and a windshield on the Fatboy I would absolutely just go with the heritage.
Matt Laidlaw - Thank you Matt for taking the time to answer my questions, I appreciate it! I think at this point I will eventually test ride the '18 Heritage & the '18 Road King and choose our upgrade from there. We aren't looking to go across the country, however, hours of cruising comfort are important to both my wife and I. I do not care for the fairing look, therefore, other touring models are not of interest to me. The 1200 is our first bike & we love the Harley experience! Keep the vid's coming, you do a spectacular job.... I watch them all! -all the best
That frame is such a nice looking piece of hardware, it looks beautiful. Huge improvement over the bikes it replaces. Wish they would have done a gear driven cam. If they changed to gear driven counter balancers, then why not the cam. It would put my mind at ease. Thanks for the video Matt! Hopefully I can buy one of these in a year or two.
Great video Matt, very informative. Looking forward to seeing your reviews of the Street Bob and Fat Bob!
Awesome as usual. Time to trade in the FXR. Thanks Matt!
+Sabby Sabatino 👍🏻
An excellent presentation Matt. One thing that we are losing is the price point of the Dyna. During a time when paychecks are being squeezed and sales can be expected to be under pressure with low consumer price elasticity... and Harley sheds the dyna? Better bikes? ...maybe. Cool bikes? eh.. Nothing beats the cool of the Wide Glide... better performance? Yes, but compare this to a KTM Super Duke or a Ducati Diavel and it looks childish. A step forward: for the rich man yes, for the working man... I don't think so. Harley still makes the best touring bikes though... at least that hasn't changed. Ride an American Made bike to see America... nothing like it.
Great video Matt. Looking forward to your reviews of the 2018 bikes. Any chance a comparison between the 2017 Lowrider and the 2018 Lowrider?
Matt,
Very impressive and well detail videos.
Love them all.
Fyi. I did have a chance try to ride on Fat Bob and Breakout with 114 engine both bikes are really phenomenal.
Forget the OLD Dyna and even Breakout these 2 new bikes are very nimble and easy to turn especially Fat Bob with 114 like a rocket. Thanks Bro for all the information that you shared.
Emmanuel Mabini I rode the Fatbob a couple days ago. It's pretty awesome.
Thanks for the info Matt not much info here in Australia yet. Just at quick question ( you have probably already covered) are they still air cooled or oil cooled
jarrod brown They are all oil cooled.
They have both. Look at engine it still has air cooling fins as well as oil heat exchanger between frame tubes. About time for hot Australian summers.
Great video as always Matt thanks. I'll keep my 2017 low rider s tho 😀!
Matt, thanks for adding some sanity to the hysteria!
Some great information, thanks for posting.
Hi Matt. The frame on the Fatboy and Breakout is wider than the other softails or just the wider swingarm?
Give those men a raise! Harley nailed it.
Two questions.
1. Does the kickstand still lock?
2. Are they using a Lithium battery? Sure don't seem like there's enough room for a lead acid.
Thanks for those interviews. Very informative.
saddlebag yes. You can pull the bike forward and drag it on the ground and the kick stand will be locked into place. The only bike you can't do this with is the Street lineup. The battery is the same. It isn't lithium.
Good Job Matt! Thanks for filming this. Do you know if the Heritage frame is the same as the Slim frame? Do they share the same frame?
Yes. All the softails this year. All 9 have the same frame. The Fatboy, Breakout, have a wider swing arm and wider primary.
Thanks Matt, I seen a rear fender kit for a Slim I liked from Ricks motorcycles. I thought of getting the heritage for the 114 motor and bobbing it out with his fender kits and a few other kits mixed together to create a unique bike for me. I like what your friend Jamie did to his. Very awesome bike.