Scott is always ON POINT!!! Great points and you can tell he held back because there was some emotion and that shows passion and love for his work! Great interview DP!!!!
was out at Dewey Beach in Delaware a bunch of years back. Standing in line for Pizza and SVP is standing right next to me. He was the nicest guy and so down to earth. ever since then been a huge fan and even without that experience still would be. Great analyst and hilarious too.
Isnt Dewey Beach an all Gay bar what the Hell were doing their Matt trying to get lucky with a ball headed oversexed underloved idiot like SVP or just waiting on a friend like Mick Jagger back in 1980?
I am very interested in one number. And that number is how much did Monahan get out of this? Everyone knows it's astronomical. I want to know what it is.
Hypocrites all around. LIV golfers sue the PGA for a monopoly but are happy to join a larger monopoly. Hypocrisy. PGA: It's blood money, but now it's blood money in our pocket. Hypocrisy! I guess I'll have to find something new to fall asleep to on Sunday afternoons.
One has to wonder if this will lead to a class-action lawsuit by the PGA players, under threat of unionization. They fell on the sword for the PGA Tour and for Jay, and he put a dagger in their backs.
It means that if you have the money you can buy whatever you want, including not just the ability to murder with impunity (no one was going to arrest MBS for killing Keshogi) but also the admiration you want for being a murderer. A few years from now only the weirdos and complainers will remember this. They will just be caught up in the corrupted and corrupting glitz of "the biggest purse in history."
How dirty are the PGA books that Monahan had to take this deal ? Well played by the Saudis to box the Tour in with litigation. They’d have had to known just how bad the tour needed to protect their books.
22 years ago this would have never happened. But time moves on and people forget about what happened on 9/11. As an American I’m just going to drop the remote and only watch the majors I guess. I Just feel dirty now watching once all of this goes into affect. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It sure leaves more than an unpleasant taste in the mouth. And if an ex-LIV player's coming down the stretch looking certain to win that Major, I'm switching off. I just wish the Saudis had picked another sport to destroy and left our golf alone.
There is no way he will continue on if anything they say are true - that the players will determine the direction of this tour - the first thing they do - is kick him to the curb
DP, The PGA players will tell you that theyre relieved in a way. They dont have to be afraid of the backlash. Theyre all going to get a raise of some kind. Managable schedules , etc Its way better for them going ahead.
It always seemed to me early on that Dan and all the US media was given a script on what to say by the PGA... 9/11, Norman is an idiot, we hate LIV, etc. So now I must admit I do find it funny that the PGA screwed them and the players and said, "Oh, we'll take that deal!" Money over ethics, I guess.
So, it sounds like LIV and the PGA Tour will continue to exist mutually exclusive of each other. There has been no talk that LIV Players will return to the PGA Tour or that guys can drift back and forth between the two. Zero talk about where Greg Norman lands in this deal.
I look at it this way........ They all can have each other!........My Sunday afternoons from early Spring to late Fall just opened up for the rest of my life!!!! (When you sell your soul to the devil.......there are no returns.) (The second paragraph of the obituary of all those involved, will be written in the next few months.......I don't think it will mention how big their bank accounts were......only what kind of person they were and how they conducted themselves. Their actions concerning this situation will mark them for the rest of their lives.)
this is the PGA preparing for the tour post tiger woods. the tv and sponsorship money will revert back to pre-tiger days when tiger officially retires (which will be very soon). and with the saudis throwing silly money at the players, there would be no way to stem the tide. the tour needs saudi money to survive.
So the Saudis now own The PGA Tour? My God, what has the world come too? Integrity, honesty, and decency for sale to a criminal and horrible nation. Well, extreme money and class rarely do go together.
As far as golf TV personalities are concerned, I don't see how David Feherty will benefit from what happened after doing coverage for LIV. Feherty left NBC Sports because he felt confined to how he was able to cover golf, and I can't imagine that the network would bring him back.
I agree that these two are the best, but not sure what they added. This was a corporate squabble. I suspect the judge just told both sides - you've got all this money. If you can't get together you both might not like how I decide on this.
It was clear that pga did not have the leverage when Brook won the PGA. Jay knew this. The fact that pga tour does not have control over the Majors means they have no leverage. Hence, Jay needed to do a deal. The losers are the players that did not take the LIV $$$$
Brooks winning the PGA was great for Brooks. Hats off to him. The tour can get by without him and the rest of LIV golf. The Saudis were going to spend their money on golf, DO YOU WANT IT? Hell yeah!
They had all the leverage in the world with all of the court victories. They just don't have the pockets that LIV has to fight this in court forever. They would have bankrupt fighting it eventually. And the guys who didn't take the money are going to be compensated for it now.
LIV will decide if there are “losers” and to what extent. And let’s note, they can easily control the flow of their money. They are sovereigns after all. The PGA is just an industry trade group if that.
@@CindyFagerstrom-d2t The Saudi Public Investment Fund is worth like $622 Billion as of 2022, the 6th largest government public fund in the world. As April of 2022, about $56 Billion of that was invested in the equity (Common Stock) of US publicly traded companies listed in the NYSE. You would be surprised how many companies they own a significant, although non-controlling interest, of equity in. In fact, companies like Fedex, Coca-Cola, both major sponsors of the PGA are among the ones with major investments by the Saudi PIF. FedEx in turn is making major investments in facilities in Saudi Arabia as it has become a hub for shipping to the Middle East (it is a US ally in the region). In fact, the PGA tour fan Shop has a large investment by the Saudi PIF.
Monahan lied to our face. The PGA took the blood money. But the fans will keep watching their game. That is the sad truth. In the end the common man controls all this. The fans never want to take their part of the blame in sports.
Policy Board is a representative board of the players. Thats really it. They can offer opinion but at the end of the day PGA runs the show. PGA also signed up the USA to buy all oil from the Saudis lol.
Agreed. Brandel Chamblee listed those off with great eloquence and passion in an interview yesterday. He spoke a lot of sense. Although a lot of people seem to hate him, for whatever reason.
If Saudi Arabia was responsible for 9/11, why do they still exist, but no we are playing golf with them??? Good conversation, unlike the crap the GC put out.
I think LIV will go away. The new entity is an umbrella over PGA Tour and DP Tour. No one has talked about the LIV contracts. If is there a buyout provision?
The first order of business, now that they have all this cash at their disposal, is to set aside a million from the pot and divide up among players who miss the cut-who have something called overhead to deal with in good weeks or bad
i am not a golf. i find the sport incredibly dull. fun to play. excruciating to watch. this news has captured and held my attention. for two years, the pga and the media absolutely CRAPPED on the liv tour and its players. now what?
Truly upset with the original LIV players. Their shortsightedness laid the groundwork to let the fox in the henhouse. PGA Tour had no choice but the Saudi’s will on golf within 10 years.
I think there's is clear evidence 9/11 was an inside job. The Saudi angle was a convenient audible. If that were really the case, the Government wouldn't be bending over backwards to do business with them.
Lots of contradictions of information flowing today. No way PIF is abandoning LIV Golf [that's their baby] and sending back those players to PGA Tour. PIF and LIV is the same thing. The powers to be know what was agreed upon, they just want to spoon feed us for the time being.
Tell Us about CHINA Jay! PGA Tour China is one of several developmental circuits sponsored The PGA. The PGA Tour appears unfazed by China’s appalling human rights record, which currently includes accusations of brutal persecution of its Uyghur Muslim population. The PGA Tour’s failure to file a 990 form disclosing its financial dealings with Chinese private equity firm Yao Capital As a tax-exempt organization, the PGA Tour is required to disclose such business dealings in China. It seems a clear case of the PGA Tour trying to have it both ways: gaining entry into the lucrative and largely untapped Chinese golf market, while flying under the radar of U.S. regulators and the IRS.
First, I didn’t have an issue with Liv, but I personally wasn’t a fan. Only issue for me. Don’t oversell the blood money, and the first chance you get, you jump on the “blood money.” Saudi is one of the biggest trade Partners with the US. Every time you fill up the tank, you’re supporting Saudi. The players shouldn’t have bought into the “PGA is a family” BS companies tell retail workers. Honestly, I hope Rory and Tiger leave the PGA and make their own league.
I hope that many, if not all, golf fans discontinue watching the sport. This was another sad moment in sports history, where a wildly corrupt entity, with a stupid amount of money, has darkened a once noble space with their positive spin washing of their money. It is epically gross and is a sign that almost the whole of the sports world is now owned by thugs, murders, and thieves.
is there anybody else in PGA tour involved in this decision or this is an unilateral decision. this sport is already played by the priviledged anyway. this is hypocrisy at best. we as country has shown to be in bed with the devil with this example again. this proves it. follow the money. looks like commish got bought. sorry for for too many points..
Once again….greed is at the heart of this…..I was close to actually watching golf….now, not so much…..I’m 55, and saw the whole Tiger Woods era……this is just a travesty…..I’m out…
maybe soon the discussion can be about new golf tournaments and golf, not who is wrong and blaming each other. especially all the talk about human rights and all that BS, and virtue signaling. it is very popular to try and shame and blame in today world.
Not a big golf fan and never bought into the idea that PGA executives really believed what they were asserting but I am person who did and still does believe that the Saudi Rulers have not been properly held to account for their role in 9/11, the aftermath of 9/11, Kashoggi etc. I have respect for Rory, Ricky , Rahm, Tiger et al who spurned the Saudi money so when I choose to watch it will be to support those players. I have nothing but contempt for those executives of the PGA who used the 9/11 families and others for their own purposes and caved so utterly.
All of the players you named have made millions playing in Saudi Arabia over the years. I guess it's a matter of debate as to whether the Saudi government was involved in 9/11, I would doubt that. As for Khashoggi, he was a lifelong member of the Muslim Brotherhood. They believe in the law Sharia. No thanks.
@robert riteman - Just to clarify...the 911 terrorists were of Saudi descent, only. It wasn't the entire nation or government of Saudi Arabia that was responsible for 911. Blaming the entire Saudi nation is akin to blaming all Americans for the horrifically high volume of domestic gun violence mass murders the past decade that have claimed the lives of hundreds of American citizens. 🤔
@Tim Rooney - Agreed, but only if Dan does not slander and smear the PGA on a weekly basis. Otherwise, he's just another talking head trying to make a living.
If Koepka didn’t get a bunch of publicity (ESPN, TNT & social media) by appearing at sporting events after winning the major, would the PGA have “merged” or folded so quickly? Because methinks all that spotlight on him made the PGA much more willing to cave…
You should thinks again. That had absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Legal discovery is one possibility and the other of course is that the sponsors of the tour could not keep pace with the Saudis. Those are the probable drivers of this.
@@eddievangundy4510 You are being naive or delusional if you think public exposure by participants (direct or indirect) has no bearing on pending litigation. All the other stuff you mentioned is the normal rigamarole of a cause of action…
Scott is always ON POINT!!! Great points and you can tell he held back because there was some emotion and that shows passion and love for his work! Great interview DP!!!!
was out at Dewey Beach in Delaware a bunch of years back. Standing in line for Pizza and SVP is standing right next to me. He was the nicest guy and so down to earth. ever since then been a huge fan and even without that experience still would be. Great analyst and hilarious too.
Isnt Dewey Beach an all Gay bar what the Hell were doing their Matt trying to get lucky with a ball headed oversexed underloved idiot like SVP or just waiting on a friend like Mick Jagger back in 1980?
Two very smart journalists - Dan Patrick and Scott Van Pelt
Talking heads. Not journalists.
@@brianfarkas8172 Thank you!!!
Is that who that was?
There not The Talking heads.
Once in a lifetime water flowing underground. To the saudis
They are the two best. DP and SVP.
Best analyst around man I swear. Van pelt just makes sense. Smart guy
Two of the best. Love SVP!
I am very interested in one number. And that number is how much did Monahan get out of this? Everyone knows it's astronomical. I want to know what it is.
Money always defeats morals and ethics.
The American way.
One reason why Scott Van Pelt is the best person on ESPN... he is the only one at ESPN I will watch... He is totally honest
Never say never when money is involved….
Hypocrites all around.
LIV golfers sue the PGA for a monopoly but are happy to join a larger monopoly. Hypocrisy.
PGA: It's blood money, but now it's blood money in our pocket. Hypocrisy!
I guess I'll have to find something new to fall asleep to on Sunday afternoons.
I'm with you - no winners here its all ugly
Mister Rogers reruns?
Bye bye watch the hunter biden trial then
@@amysully6399 sir, this is a wendy's drive thru
@@DaringDan your drunk on bud light sir
Van Peezy is arguably the best in the business.
Love that guy. He is a pro's pro!
One has to wonder if this will lead to a class-action lawsuit by the PGA players, under threat of unionization. They fell on the sword for the PGA Tour and for Jay, and he put a dagger in their backs.
hope so...
there was a video yesterday about Jack speaking to this and stating that he, Rory and Tiger were all consulted! How do these guys not know this?
Two classics in fine form
Rockin that ocean reef shirt 😎 he told me once on the range "that'll do" after I hit drive
Nice.
It means that if you have the money you can buy whatever you want, including not just the ability to murder with impunity (no one was going to arrest MBS for killing Keshogi) but also the admiration you want for being a murderer. A few years from now only the weirdos and complainers will remember this. They will just be caught up in the corrupted and corrupting glitz of "the biggest purse in history."
anyone above the age of 5 knows this is how the world works, and it is ALWAYS been how the world works!
yep or an obese obscene ignoramus in the white house - everything has a price
Yet Biden is your savior..
How dirty are the PGA books that Monahan had to take this deal ? Well played by the Saudis to box the Tour in with litigation. They’d have had to known just how bad the tour needed to protect their books.
Did Van pelt frame the last of his hair?
A-men Dan! What does Monahan's bank account look like now?
He doesn’t have a bank account now, he owns a bank.
You guys have become such professional smoke-blowers. Golf as we knew it is dead.
The financial details interest me.
22 years ago this would have never happened. But time moves on and people forget about what happened on 9/11. As an American I’m just going to drop the remote and only watch the majors I guess. I
Just feel dirty now watching once all of this goes into affect. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It sure leaves more than an unpleasant taste in the mouth. And if an ex-LIV player's coming down the stretch looking certain to win that Major, I'm switching off. I just wish the Saudis had picked another sport to destroy and left our golf alone.
@@renejean2523 They have. Their money is in sports all over the world. A Google search will reveal much...
Was SVP in Butler Cabin ?
As if I could love SVP more...he gives his pup pets and attention when he comes into the room.
Adam Scott's wife is pissed. 250 million dollars 💸 gone.
What's the over/under on when Monahan gets axed? I'd say he'll be out by the end of this year.
Part of the merger should have been a new commissioner as well.
There is no way he will continue on if anything they say are true - that the players will determine the direction of this tour - the first thing they do - is kick him to the curb
Rory said he feels like a “sacrificial lamb”…implying he wasn’t privy to this…
When and whether he was privy to this is irrelevant. He's right that he was a sacrificial lamb.
Monahan is sleeping well every night for the rest of his life
money can buy a nice comfy bed.
DP, The PGA players will tell you that theyre relieved in a way. They dont have to be afraid of the backlash. Theyre all going to get a raise of some kind. Managable schedules , etc Its way better for them going ahead.
It always seemed to me early on that Dan and all the US media was given a script on what to say by the PGA... 9/11, Norman is an idiot, we hate LIV, etc. So now I must admit I do find it funny that the PGA screwed them and the players and said, "Oh, we'll take that deal!" Money over ethics, I guess.
yeah the media all stood on their moral high horse and chastised the defectors. even called them unamerican and traitors. now what?
Dan doesn't read from script bro
@@diggitus well played sir... well played!
Yeah they read from the script- but it doesn't have anything to do with money and ethics.
So, it sounds like LIV and the PGA Tour will continue to exist mutually exclusive of each other. There has been no talk that LIV Players will return to the PGA Tour or that guys can drift back and forth between the two. Zero talk about where Greg Norman lands in this deal.
The oil money gets what the oil money wants it. It’s trillions of dollars.
This is why America HAS to get off oil.
@@alwaysblessed2794 it will never happen
Who thought golf could be as dirty as boxing.
I’d trust Don King over Monahan any day.
I look at it this way........
They all can have each other!........My Sunday afternoons from early Spring to late Fall just opened up for the rest of my life!!!!
(When you sell your soul to the devil.......there are no returns.)
(The second paragraph of the obituary of all those involved, will be written in the next few months.......I don't think it will mention how big their bank accounts were......only what kind of person they were and how they conducted themselves. Their actions concerning this situation will mark them for the rest of their lives.)
Did anyone think SVP was getting fired?
Is SVP trying to solve a crime on the board behind him?
Hello credit suisse its jay, im bringing a sack of money to deposit. No last names please
this is the PGA preparing for the tour post tiger woods. the tv and sponsorship money will revert back to pre-tiger days when tiger officially retires (which will be very soon). and with the saudis throwing silly money at the players, there would be no way to stem the tide. the tour needs saudi money to survive.
So the Saudis now own The PGA Tour? My God, what has the world come too? Integrity, honesty, and decency for sale to a criminal and horrible nation. Well, extreme money and class rarely do go together.
As far as golf TV personalities are concerned, I don't see how David Feherty will benefit from what happened after doing coverage for LIV. Feherty left NBC Sports because he felt confined to how he was able to cover golf, and I can't imagine that the network would bring him back.
Is that what he said? Sounds more like he was tempted by the money. I won't miss him. He's really not as funny as he likes to think he is.
I agree that these two are the best, but not sure what they added. This was a corporate squabble. I suspect the judge just told both sides - you've got all this money. If you can't get together you both might not like how I decide on this.
It was clear that pga did not have the leverage when Brook won the PGA. Jay knew this. The fact that pga tour does not have control over the Majors means they have no leverage. Hence, Jay needed to do a deal. The losers are the players that did not take the LIV $$$$
Brooks winning the PGA was great for Brooks. Hats off to him. The tour can get by without him and the rest of LIV golf. The Saudis were going to spend their money on golf, DO YOU WANT IT? Hell yeah!
They had all the leverage in the world with all of the court victories. They just don't have the pockets that LIV has to fight this in court forever. They would have bankrupt fighting it eventually. And the guys who didn't take the money are going to be compensated for it now.
LIV will decide if there are “losers” and to what extent. And let’s note, they can easily control the flow of their money. They are sovereigns after all. The PGA is just an industry trade group if that.
@@CindyFagerstrom-d2t The Saudi Public Investment Fund is worth like $622 Billion as of 2022, the 6th largest government public fund in the world. As April of 2022, about $56 Billion of that was invested in the equity (Common Stock) of US publicly traded companies listed in the NYSE. You would be surprised how many companies they own a significant, although non-controlling interest, of equity in. In fact, companies like Fedex, Coca-Cola, both major sponsors of the PGA are among the ones with major investments by the Saudi PIF. FedEx in turn is making major investments in facilities in Saudi Arabia as it has become a hub for shipping to the Middle East (it is a US ally in the region). In fact, the PGA tour fan Shop has a large investment by the Saudi PIF.
that is stupid - it has nothing to do with play - it is about money plain and simple
The pga's biggest problem is still ratings for non majors from the average fan
Wonder how you guys would have reacted to the German government in 1970?
Monahan lied to our face. The PGA took the blood money. But the fans will keep watching their game. That is the sad truth. In the end the common man controls all this. The fans never want to take their part of the blame in sports.
When it "all comes out in the wash", there's gonna be a lot of dirty " water".
TIL wow moments are not the same as whoa moments.
Policy Board is a representative board of the players. Thats really it. They can offer opinion but at the end of the day PGA runs the show. PGA also signed up the USA to buy all oil from the Saudis lol.
Breaking News: Everyone is in business with Saudi Arabia! Start with the gas stations!
SVP is the goat !
These two went 12 minutes without mentioning Saudi atrocities which is what this is all about
Agreed. Brandel Chamblee listed those off with great eloquence and passion in an interview yesterday. He spoke a lot of sense. Although a lot of people seem to hate him, for whatever reason.
If Saudi Arabia was responsible for 9/11, why do they still exist, but no we are playing golf with them??? Good conversation, unlike the crap the GC put out.
SVP, Steve Levy, and Linda ' smoke show' Cohn last of the espn greats
Surely, Monaghan's position is untenable.
I think LIV will go away. The new entity is an umbrella over PGA Tour and DP Tour. No one has talked about the LIV contracts. If is there a buyout provision?
Its not right but the USA has always done business with Saudi Ariba
Yeah he may lose the commish job but he positioned himself to be the ceo of this new venture.....
The first order of business, now that they have all this cash at their disposal, is to set aside a million from the pot and divide up among players who miss the cut-who have something called overhead to deal with in good weeks or bad
i am not a golf. i find the sport incredibly dull. fun to play. excruciating to watch. this news has captured and held my attention.
for two years, the pga and the media absolutely CRAPPED on the liv tour and its players. now what?
David Stern probably could have gotten way more.
Growing up in the 90's, Norman was one of my favorite golfers. Now, not so much.
It´s always about money, they´ll sell their mothers for a few bucks. disgusting
Listen to the whole thing and have no idea what theyre talking about.
Let them wear SHORTS !!!!
How many showers did Jay take today?
Rory should sue pga with tiger for two billion.
Gotta love SVP. Jay sold out. PIF must have made an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Rory was in the loop.
The golf players who declined the huge LIV contract get screwed. Snooze You Lose!
The Saudis own golf. It’s about money and expansion. Nothing to debate
Van felt in golf.
Truly upset with the original LIV players. Their shortsightedness laid the groundwork to let the fox in the henhouse. PGA Tour had no choice but the Saudi’s will on golf within 10 years.
It's about MONEY, always....even when the Saudis were found to be complicit in 9/11....
I think there's is clear evidence 9/11 was an inside job. The Saudi angle was a convenient audible. If that were really the case, the Government wouldn't be bending over backwards to do business with them.
The Saudis? Remove tinfoil hat please.
Lots of contradictions of information flowing today. No way PIF is abandoning LIV Golf [that's their baby] and sending back those players to PGA Tour. PIF and LIV is the same thing. The powers to be know what was agreed upon, they just want to spoon feed us for the time being.
Norman will get a cut from everyone involved...PGA, DP, LIV $$$$
Tell Us about CHINA Jay! PGA Tour China is one of several developmental circuits sponsored The PGA. The PGA Tour appears unfazed by China’s appalling human rights record, which currently includes accusations of brutal persecution of its Uyghur Muslim population. The PGA Tour’s failure to file a 990 form disclosing its financial dealings with Chinese private equity firm Yao Capital As a tax-exempt organization, the PGA Tour is required to disclose such business dealings in China. It seems a clear case of the PGA Tour trying to have it both ways: gaining entry into the lucrative and largely untapped Chinese golf market, while flying under the radar of U.S. regulators and the IRS.
However…..we’re all talking about it…..lol….aren’t we? no bad press and all……
Jay the snake. If he has the job next week golfers should strike. 😂
First, I didn’t have an issue with Liv, but I personally wasn’t a fan. Only issue for me. Don’t oversell the blood money, and the first chance you get, you jump on the “blood money.” Saudi is one of the biggest trade Partners with the US. Every time you fill up the tank, you’re supporting Saudi. The players shouldn’t have bought into the “PGA is a family” BS companies tell retail workers.
Honestly, I hope Rory and Tiger leave the PGA and make their own league.
If you love the Saudi’s and their best buddies China and Russia then you can probably be Ok with the new PGA
If you love socialism and dylan mulvaneys then the u.s.a should buy the pga
I hope that many, if not all, golf fans discontinue watching the sport. This was another sad moment in sports history, where a wildly corrupt entity, with a stupid amount of money, has darkened a once noble space with their positive spin washing of their money.
It is epically gross and is a sign that almost the whole of the sports world is now owned by thugs, murders, and thieves.
So I guess you have an EV? Otherwise you contribute to the House of Saud.
Gentlemen’s game no more.
Love to see liberal media talk their way to acceptance. Scott doesn't know what to say due to his employer.😂 #nowitsoktoacceptsaudimoney😂
These guys have just stolen a not for profit haven't they.
It feels a bit like if Wikipedia was sold and now it's commercialised with advertising
is there anybody else in PGA tour involved in this decision or this is an unilateral decision. this sport is already played by the priviledged anyway. this is hypocrisy at best. we as country has shown to be in bed with the devil with this example again. this proves it. follow the money. looks like commish got bought. sorry for for too many points..
Once again….greed is at the heart of this…..I was close to actually watching golf….now, not so much…..I’m 55, and saw the whole Tiger Woods era……this is just a travesty…..I’m out…
1st world problem solved - Next !?
A y o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o 📶
Sliver or lead.
I only watched golf for Tiger Woods. Beyond that,I have little interest in the sport.
Sure, get your $, but I'll never what pro golf again.
maybe soon the discussion can be about new golf tournaments and golf, not who is wrong and blaming each other. especially all the talk about human rights and all that BS, and virtue signaling. it is very popular to try and shame and blame in today world.
Im not surprised but im disappointed. This is a hot mess
Not a big golf fan and never bought into the idea that PGA executives really believed what they were asserting but I am person who did and still does believe that the Saudi Rulers have not been properly held to account for their role in 9/11, the aftermath of 9/11, Kashoggi etc. I have respect for Rory, Ricky , Rahm, Tiger et al who spurned the Saudi money so when I choose to watch it will be to support those players. I have nothing but contempt for those executives of the PGA who used the 9/11 families and others for their own purposes and caved so utterly.
All of the players you named have made millions playing in Saudi Arabia over the years.
I guess it's a matter of debate as to whether the Saudi government was involved in 9/11, I would doubt that.
As for Khashoggi, he was a lifelong member of the Muslim Brotherhood. They believe in the law Sharia. No thanks.
@robert riteman - Just to clarify...the 911 terrorists were of Saudi descent, only. It wasn't the entire nation or government of Saudi Arabia that was responsible for 911. Blaming the entire Saudi nation is akin to blaming all Americans for the horrifically high volume of domestic gun violence mass murders the past decade that have claimed the lives of hundreds of American citizens. 🤔
The U.S. government has never been held accountable for their role in the events of 9/11 or the aftermath either so there’s always that.
Sure it has perhaps not as much as you would like @@remoevans7847
@@remoevans7847 Riiiiiiight.
Dan has egg on his face
@Tim Rooney - Agreed, but only if Dan does not slander and smear the PGA on a weekly basis. Otherwise, he's just another talking head trying to make a living.
Monahan is cooked. Hopefully.
Very weak sauce…..but I will watch Dan if he gets the head of PGA on……cause that guys gonna squirm big time……try and justify it……I dare you…….🙏
If Koepka didn’t get a bunch of publicity (ESPN, TNT & social media) by appearing at sporting events after winning the major, would the PGA have “merged” or folded so quickly? Because methinks all that spotlight on him made the PGA much more willing to cave…
You should thinks again. That had absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Legal discovery is one possibility and the other of course is that the sponsors of the tour could not keep pace with the Saudis. Those are the probable drivers of this.
@@eddievangundy4510 You are being naive or delusional if you think public exposure by participants (direct or indirect) has no bearing on pending litigation. All the other stuff you mentioned is the normal rigamarole of a cause of action…