The 2023 Toyota Tundra seems to be picking up right where the 2022 left off. Only now, the major consumer guides are seeing the problematic limitations of this truck.
I went to a local Toyota dealership on a Sunday and parked my 2013 SR5 next to a 2023 Limited and a 2023 SR5; the difference in build quality was glaringly apparent. The redesigned 2022 & 2023 Tundra has a cheapness that is just hard to accept, especially at the prices being asked. I presently own two Toyotas and was considering purchasing a new Tundra; however, the quality of the new Tundra models isn't up to the standard I expect from Toyota.
I got 23 platinum trim. Seems spot on. No observable defects. No trim on windows like some models. Maybe that's the difference but the mfer seems spot on. Just drove it 450 miles over the weekend on short road trip. Solid. No sqeeks or rattles.
@caseysaunders2137 I would hope so. My 2006 Golf with 210,000 miles doesn't squeak or rattle. I get in these newer cars and they really do just feel cheaper. I think earlier 2000's was peak quality for pricing across most car brands.
Things are made almost completely out of plastic today. All new vehicles are. My 2023 Tundra feels SO MUCH better than the 2022 ford f150 I drive for work.
What I find amazing is that Toyota took forever and a day to get this truck in the marketplace and it just sucks! No tow hooks on off road editions lol 😂
Fast forward to 2024 and the Tacoma is nearly as bad. The worst part is that Toyota boosted MSRP's $15-20k higher like we wouldn't remember that it was just 2017 when a Tacoma TRD Pro started at $42k and now that's 2024 Tacoma SR pricing.
The build quality is very very bad. The windows flop around when rolled down, the interior rattles if you turn the stereo above 50%. It’s very disheartening considering that I’ve always liked the previous tundras
Solid points. Toyotas QRD philosophy is basically nonexistent on the Tundra. There are a lot of RUclipsrs that reiterate what you’re saying. Many of them had bought the new redesigned Tundra and experienced what you’re saying. This truck took so long to develop and this is the best Toyota can do? IMO Mike Sweers the head of design and development needs to go. He’s out of touch with the consumer and failed. I was looking for a new Tundra back in 18 I was looking at replacing my 07 I emailed Toyota asking about the redesign? Emailed me back saying it’s coming soon and even asked what would I like on the new Tundra. I had like many high hopes but got tired of waiting. Bought a new 2020. Glad I did.
I have tried to like the new tundra. I rented a 2wd sst and drove it for a week. It felt like an overgrown Tacoma to me. I like the Tacoma and I like the tundra more since I got to spend time with it but I don't think it compares to the old model. The cabin is smaller and fuel economy was only 2mpg better than the old tundra 4x4 5.7. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they will make a midlife change to address the issues. Until that happens I will keep driving the old tundra.
I am also a Toyota fan but, Mike Sweers has to go !!! I was very disappointed owner of a 3rd gen Tacoma so, I sold it, and bought another 2nd gen Tundra.
I think it's everyone else on that team. Admittedly, it all falls on his shoulders. They completely ignored the working person when designing this truck.
I don't think Sweers had nearly as much control as he would like. Toyota forced this truck through and slacked on supplier quality checks. The big misses are less headroom and legroom, lower payload, larger turning radius, really, really bad programming for the infotainment system, plastic bumpers and several assembly problems that have been documented. I would never expected this many problems from so many areas from Toyota.
thay gave me a 2021 tacoma trd offroad as a rental.I was shocked how bad the driving dynamics are the tranny on the free way always hunting for the right gear,the engine make alot of noise but don't go anywhere unless you rev up in the higher rpm's, my wife hated it. now if they upgrade the engine and go with a 10speed tranny maybe we wouldn't have hated it so much. oh and the thing shifted so hard once on me the service engine light came on.
Don’t know man, I’ve had mine for a few months and love it. Yeah the wind noise is there but I doesn’t bother me. The interior layout is fine to me. I also didn’t go around the truck pointing out every little gap .
In all likelihood I would purchase an AT4 2500 if I wee to get something new. Almost pulled trigger on one right before first of year, but I love my Tundra and want to see where this market goes.
I hear Chevy and Ram have always had lots of problems. Ive heard Ford and now Toyota has their own problems. Looks wise the Chevy wins in my opinion but I wouldn't want to own one out of warranty.
This appears to be the bashing channel! I recently purchased the 2023 Tundra and I love it. Most enjoyable truck I have owned. Ive had Ford and 2nd Gen Tundra and liked both too. I primarily use my truck to haul my dirt bikes and tow a trailer. With this 3rd Gen I like it as a commuter vehicle because its so much fun to drive. It's easy to find negatives and bash things and you would think one positive comment would be said? Nope? Use your common sense... may not have met your expectations but this thread is out of control. Truck is awesome and I am so happy I purchased it.
My 2023 tundra platinum hybrid was a mess. From whistling windows on the highway to air suspension riding on the bump stops from the factory. Had it for 8 days and had enough. Sold it. Owned a 2004 tundra for 15 years and it was really good. This gen is extremely disappointing for years 1&2. I also have a 2020 highlander that needed to have the fuel tank replaced, the sender replaced, the drivers side window control switches replaced, and the rear hatch struts all before 30k miles and under warranty thankfully. Toyota isn’t what it used to be. Still less issues than other brands, but not what it once was.
I was unpleasantly surprised how soft the new Tundra actually is, all the body panels pushes in/ flex really easy, seems like the body is made of some kind of plastic metal, many small issues with this Truck, and the dealers are still marking up the prices by 20K, like really a platinum 2wd was $88K
Panels are cosmetic metal. Most cars are like this now because it's easier and cheaper to simply paint and replace a bad panel. Make those panels a few millimeters thicker and see where that puts your weight rating and mileage lmao
I am a self admitted Toyota Fanboy overall and I have had many Toyota's of all types over the years. I was excited about the new Tundra but after thinking about purchasing the 2022 I decided against that move. Some of your observations are why I have decided to keep my 2016 Limited Double Cab for a good while longer as I feel it is generally more solid... she is thirsty though but the 5.7 V8 is a nice engine.
When you buy a Toyota customers want liability durability and lasting power. I left safety out because I believe that’s a given. What we are seeing here with the 23 tundra is that the quality is going from worse to horrendous. These twin turbo engines are a time bomb of an engine that at some point have catastrophic failures that will cost the owner a fortune. This new generation of tundra (2022-23) is putting nicely a disaster.
I recently bought a 2023 and I’ve had no issues, everything is put together correctly, there’s no lag or hesitation when I punch its 400 plus HP power train. I test drove the F150 and Silverado 1500, and wasn’t highly impressed. You can pick apart any vehicle if that’s your intent. I often see Fords, found on the road dead in a daily basis in TX, but people continuously purchase them. So I dunno
I had a 2022 TRD Pro...was awesome for about 4 months then issues started popping up. After 2 months I got rid of it for a Raptor. I liked the Pro but there were to many issues (i my mind anyways). I hope you have better luck with your Tundra. Cheers!
@@AgentGeo From the perspective of someone trying to make a decision... can you list the problems you had instead of just saying you had problems? I currently own a 2022 Silverado Z71 Trail Boss 5.3 V8 fully loaded truck and I've never been more disappointed in a truck in my life! The fit and finish, glitchy infotainment system, noises, creeks, popping in suspension, paint issues, 2 recalls so far, 2 unexplained dead battery issues (this is an every day driver with no mods whatsoever) 3 times no start for no reason, poor fuel economy from what's stated, and all complaints are backed by many other owners. My Silverado only has 2245 miles on it. Not even an oil change yet with all these issues. Ford Eco-Boost motors are having unreal amount of burned up turbos... and how they rate Dodge as #1? Dodge is notorious for poor resale and quality. I wouldn't touch that company if they paid me. then vomiting it up with zero detail.
@@jasonbodie586 Sure. I'd like to preface the rest of this by stating that the Raptor has always been my dream vehicle. That being said the TRD Pro was great initially but after about 4-5 months of ownership some little things really started to bug me. 1) mine developed wind noise from the moonroof and driver side window, 2) cheap plastic interior had already started to crack (driver seat side), 3) squeaky center console (DIY'd that), 4) rear window weather stripping would not align properly, 4) very poor turning radius, 5) high pitched humming noise coming from the hybrid regenerative braking system that toyota claimed was normal (this drove me nuts)...to mention a few. The one that really took the cake was the noise from the braking system. It truly made the driving experience unenjoyable for me. Still was a good truck but for $70K i expected better. Yes i know the Raptor is more expensive, but it checked all the boxes and like I had eluded to I have always wanted one. Hope that helps:)
The guy on Video Loves F150s , RAMs , etc American brand and dislikes Toyota just because it's Jap. I remember few years back when guys like this dude started a nationally televised lie about Toyota's self accelerating and failing to stop ,it was later revealed it was a lie because GM lost the Number 1 spot . This Tundra is by far a better truck than any F150 , Silverdo or a RAM . stop your pathetic lies .I mean guy in the Video
It truly is hard to believe just how bad Toyota did designing/engineering this truck. It doesn’t even make any sense why they would do this to themselves let alone their customers.
lol hypertrophic comment of the year goes to this turd, settle down. its 98% a fibe truck that most owners love. You geeks are acting like the blow up like fords and have zero resale like everything else.
You have to look at where we are politically. Why invest in quality? If you suspect a major economic crash is coming just make something that will make them money short term and their fans will buy
I think the new Tundra is ugly in comparison to the previous model. Not to mention the issues the new Tundra has that were not issues in the old Tundra. 2021 Tundra or earlier is my choice.
Styling definitely polarizing, some say growing on them. Looks worse to me the more I see. With the lift balance of TRD PRo, its better, but what isn't
This is my 3rd Toyota in the last 20 years. I drive 40k miles a year. My first I traded in with 375K miles my second I gave to my brother 515k miles and now I’m on my 3rd in 23 tundra. I test drove f150, Silverado and the ram; they all had their upsides and downside. I went with Toyota because they make their money on engine longevity. That’s where Toyota has the upper hand and that’s what most important to my for how I use my trucks; reliability and longevity.
Toyota went from being very reliable to being very risky to buy. Went from being made in japan to USA Went from naturally aspirated to twin turbos. Dads tundra blew the turbos at 2k miles.
I bought a ‘21 knowing it was my last chance for the V8. I do like the look of these trucks but they need to get the kinks out. That’s what I was afraid of if I waited for the new generation.
I just picked up my 7th Toyota in 4 yrs (100 S LC, 20’ Taco, 18’ LC, 11’ LX, 21’ 1794 & 22’ 4Runner). The new one is a 23’ Tundra Platinum. I drove a bunch before making a deal. My initial impression is very positive. Got $3600 off MSRP which was not expected. 1st big road trip is this weekend into the Colorado Mtns. Lots of mud and snow to test this rig. I’ll report back my thoughts.
Sorry for the delay in commenting back. I rarely check these threads. Actually I did almost get stranded on Lynx pass in late spring but managed to get out. I put 10k miles on the truck in 5 months and just recently sold it. The vehicle preformed incredibly well. I’ll be looking for a 2024 Platinum with the TRD package that has the rear locker. I’m currently driving around in a 11’ LX570.
TundraDude34 on RUclips said the 2017 was the quintessential year, the year before Toyota Safety Sense started and still had the transmission cooler. I had a 2019 and traded back to the 2017 to get rid of TSS and get the transmission cooler. But I only get 11MPG towing my 3500lbs 2020 Escape 19, aerodynamic like Airstream.
I've seen Tundradude34, seems like a nice guy. Nothing wrong with 17s. From what I can tell he doesn't put 500 miles per month on his trucks, has never had it tow anything or been offroad. He has every right to own a truck, just doesn't seem to ever use it.
I’m happy you’re disappointed. I the internets biggest toyota hater told everyone from the get go that the tundra was dead on arrival. Nobody listened yet here we are 😁 How am I celebrating your disappointment?
One of the few RUclipsrs who hasn't switched to the new gen I get everybody has to keep their channel going but kid revs my hat's off to you The old generation was so much better this thing is ugly it's cheaply made and it's expensive and he gets no better gas mileage so lose lose lose
I bought a 22 Limited TRD OR- and I love mine. The power train has been phenomenal- no problems. No wind issues. Other brands have all had their issues- no truck is free of problems.
You had me until you mention that consumer reports rated the Rivian an 87 and higher than Toyota. Clearly there is some bias for EVs, and I would not be surprised if they were pushing an agenda. I'd take those reports with a grain of salt. However, the new tundra still remains a downgrade from the previous generation.
@@spinfish1434 True but my point about their rating for the Rivian still stands. And if it doesn't matter what consumer reports says, then the uploaded shouldn't have talked about them so much because clearly they're pushing EVs.
@@elli0tbriggs Yeah , I felt the same way about the Rivian and Lightning. That's why I didn't talk about the CR article when it first came out in November. But when Motortrend and Car&Driver did their reviews, it was pretty harsh.
Same here. No issues to report. I purposely waited until after the first model year shook some things out as all vehicles generally have some issues when a redesign happens.
I have a 2022 TRD pro and I do really like it overall and it looks great in the lunar rock color but there certainly are some issues including things you’ve mentioned like interior trim cracking on the seat and I have an exterior piece of trim that has also cracked. My biggest issue with the truck is the turn radius though it’s awful. There is a slight rattle that I haven’t figured out yet also. MPG is barely over 16 for me but it’s not a daily commuter for me so it’s not my biggest concern
It’s not all Toyotas fault…. It is the government emission requirements. Twin turbo… afm.. 10 speed transmissions all have issues across all manufacturers
Hard pass on a new toyota Tundra. A garbage product. I like my friend's 5.7 l version, was gonna get one once my F150 dies, switch brands. I only use my truck for towing and material delivery so the MPG is not my number one concern....reliability is #1. I'll be upgrading to F250 gasser I suppose.
Gotta say, I almost 100% disagree with everything said in this video. I truly hate pickup trucks but my wife's tundra has been one of the nicest ive driven and definitely been happy to own it so far. Handles extremely well for a truck, mileage is decent for what it is (averaging about 18.5 city and highway mixed). 4H and 4L work fine. it hauls what we need it to just fine, and the fit and finish we felt are really nice (good quality leather, no rattles or misaligned body panels). Again I am not a truck guy but im happy with our Tundra. Most of the complaints made in this video I do believe are either overstated or just flat out wrong.
I went to the dealership check out a limited. Gasket around door had gaps not secured. There is a 3/8 gap between the frame and headlight where it narrows down up the hood.
Been driving my 08 crewmax since I bought it new. 250,000 miles on it now and only fixes was my radiator and my starter like 4k miles ago. Was really looking forward to getting this new tundra but I think they butchered it inside and out. And yes the quality went way down. I won’t even consider this new tundra.
Great! Video, I myself own two TUNDRA'S 2021 Tundra Sport Dbl cab and 2021Tundra TRD PRO Dbl cab, I'm so lucky to have purchased them before quality control disappeared from Toyota. That same year we purchased 2021 4Runner Limited before everything started falling apart and car prices being overpriced. you can see a big difference in quality in just 2 years.
In April 2022 I visited a dealer that had a ton of low miles used 2022 Tundras. I know taste is subjective but I felt the 2022 models looked ugly and the interior after being used for a few months looked cheap.
Recently, I got this truck as a rental, and after a week, I was extremely disappointed with the mpg I was averaging 13.7 MPG. Why is that!? I don't drive erratic, just cruise with traffic
I’ve only had my 22 Tundra for 3 months but so far so good. I am coming from a 19 Tacoma. The Tundra is definitely not perfect but so far I like it a lot and enjoy driving it. Has its pros and cons like everything else. I just trust Toyota over everyone else.
No offense but I believe Tacoma owners were the targeted audience, otherwise the changes they made in design make no sense. The cabin is considerably smaller than the last gen Tundra as well.
@@jsnx9067 The interior is smaller than last gen and bigger than the Tacoma, this isn't even debatable. If you're referring to the exterior, then yes, it is unnecessarily large while stealing interior space. Lastly, it's equally as ugly as your baby Tacoma little fella.
I'm coming from a 2018 Tundra and decided to wait a year for Toyota to figure out their quality control. I've now had my '23 Tundra for 8 weeks and the number of issues I have with it is unacceptable. Filed a case with Toyota USA and they promised to send someone, it's seen 4 weeks and nothing. Dealership is telling me that everyone has those same complaints, but Toyota does not have a fix so we cant help you.
Same. I’ve had mine since November and I’m also waiting to hear back from Toyota. The transmission jerks the truck when shifting into 1st. For the price, I find it unacceptable to sell a truck they knew had an issue and no fix or timeline for a fix.
@@adambdenman I ended up trading my '23 for a '19 for the time being. I was lucky enough that a GMC dealer gave me more than what I paid for it so it's fine. But I'm going to wait for the GMC to catch up on their inventory and switch to an AT4 3.0 Duramax. A few of my friends have a '20 and '22 and love them, I'm hoping Gm. can be more reliable than Tundra at this point.
I’ll be the oddball here and admit I like the redesigned Tundra I own a 2023 4X2 hybrid Limited Tundra so far zero issues and consistently getting at least 21 mpg but I’m bracing myself for all this shits that’s coming my way oh well I’ve been called worse 😂 thank God it’s just a truck not like I’ve been diagnosed with cancer and dying in 6 months
I think you got more than just the wrong truck. You got the wrong idea. GLad it's working for you, but no one looking to call you names, this is about the truck, not you.
i bought a low miles (2,000) 2021 TRD Pro in April 2022 instead of buying a new 2022 model. I was able to test drive a 2022 1794 and a 2022 limited. I'm a big guy (260 pounds) and found the seats in the 2021 TRD Pro to be the most comfortable of those 3 trucks. I have heard people complain about not so great ride comfort on the previous gen. My truck has the all season Michelin tires and while they don't look as cool as the more aggressive looking offroad type tires my ride is very smooth and comfortable. The cabin is very quiet and the v8 combined with TRD Exhaust is heaven for me. The only thing I don't like is the "shift hang" at speeds under 30 miles per hour. I'm considering having my truck "Dap Tuned" which Im told improves the annoying transmission issues like shift hang.
I have the same truck but in a double cab and absolutely love it. I've driven all over the country in it and its the best highway long trip truck I've ever had (owned four trucks since 2000). I put a set of Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70/18 on it and it really makes the truck look great. Barely decreases your mpg by 0.5-1 mpg max. I did have the speedo modded to make up for the larger tires. I definitely recommend you try some Nittos when those Michelins wear out.
I agree with you! I love my 21 Pro you have to know how to drive the truck. The least mileage I get is 15mpg and I can get 18-19 mpg on the highway. I keep my speed consistent and I don't have a heavy foot.
@@SuperSnakePlissken How much of a ride quality difference did you detect between the Michelin all season and the Nitto Ridge Grapplers? Also, do the Nitto Ridge Grapplers increase the height of the truck?
i purchase my 2023 tundra SR5 4x4 on NOV. 16 2022 its FEB 23 2023 today.. IVE had my truck for ONLY 8 days my 4X4 ISSUES.. So far they've changed my transfer case and they might have to change my front axle as well. I will find this out tomorrow . I've owned many TOYOTA''S since 1976 and you are right they've changed many things to the negative side..
I’ve driven trucks for 45 yrs. 5 New ones over time. Fords, GMC, Dodge. But my current truck is a 2000 GMC 1500 4wd regular cab short bed 180,000 mi excellent paint no rust and no major problems. Certainly no comparison to new trucks nowadays but knowing all the issues that many new trucks have plus the outrageous prices I’m pretty content with what I have Plus I don’t need a truck that’s as long as the 4 door crew cabs
You just don't put a p*ssy ass v6 in a full size truck. Full size truck I'm thinking reliability, toughness and raw power. I don't give a shit about MPG. put that shit in the midsized trucks
100% agree. It's only related by name and only the fanboys will defend the latest Tundra and Tacoma. It's completely unacceptable that even 2024 models have engine faillures. So much for "bad batches" of bearings . So much of 0.005% failure rate. The guys that buy that live in clown world. I have been saying since it came out that the new bed is a JOKE. The trim fitment sucks. The interior plastic bits suck. Pretty terrible oversights by Mike Sweers considering he's the head of truck development and came from a plastics background. If the fitment and quality of the plastics are this bad, it was a conscious decision that was overseen by Mike.
I wonder if the new Tacoma is going to have these same kind of problems? Because the new Tacoma is copying the tundra a little bit or a lot. I love my 2018 Tacoma never had a single issue with it so I'm really interested in the new Tacoma. I am thinking about the new Lexus GX though. What are you think about your Lexus GX 460? I am thinking about the GX 550 but I'm not sure about that twin turbo V6. Same engine as the tundra. Thank you
I've never even heard of a GX460 problem. The new GX look intriguing, but the last time (early 1970s) our government had this big push for "greener" vehicles about the same time that unions were negotiating major compensation changes, vehicle quality in the U.S. went to H&!!. It stayed there for about 4 decades, and well here we are doing it again.
@@kedrevs4037 Yeah who knows? I think the unions are already getting overpaid but that's just my thought. The good thing about the Lexus GX is it's not going to be built here. It's going to be built in Japan. But it's still built to EPA standards for here. I trust the Japanese engineers for reliability. Thank you 👍
WOW! This is disappointing. I drove a Tacoma for many years. When I decided to upgrade to a full size truck. I thought about waiting on the New Tundra. Man, I’m glad I didn’t.
Nothing is going to be perfect 💯 by man made materials, but I experiences that Toyota vehicles are better quality and lasting longer than Ford and Chrysler vehicles, my first truck was F150 gives me all kinds problems, my Tacoma very minimal, will see my new 2023 TRD Pro max hybrid
Man.. you go really hard to diss this truck in your videos..I don't think it really matter what "they" recommend, Them joints still selling..almost 95,000 sold in 2022 in the US (look it up)...🤣 Everybody I met that has one, love their trucks..Mine has been nothing but great since I had it. 🤷🏾♂️
I have own a 23 Limited Tundra Off-road package for the last 4 months and I’ve had a 3,834 miles on the clock! I have no problem of anything that your saying. Tell you what tho, Tundra all day long. The only way for you to know is to own one and never rely on what the consumers report are saying. It’s how you use it, but then again that’s me. One thing I can tell you is my 2015 LX570 is way faster in the long run, other than I’m loving it! No American truck that will come close.
I drove F150 and Sierra….preferred the Tundra. Feels more planted when driving…and has a better seating position for me. I felt like the F150 was going to tip over when turning. One reviewer online says it handles like a shopping cart. Tundra handles much better on the streets. And looks better too.
Just seeing this video now. I would have to say you are spot on. When i watched your first video i was a tundra fan and was researching the 2022 tundra...so i was one of those "this guy is nuts" people. I ended up buying a 2022 TRD Pro. But about 6 months later i traded it in for 2023 F150 Raptor. I had many of these issues that were not problems initially that crept up at the 4-5 month ownership mark. Most I was trying to live with but The nail in the coffin was the hybrid regenerative braking system started to make a high pitched humming noise when ever i pressed down on the break pedal. I put up with that for two months since Toyota told me that was "normal". That alone drove me away because I no longer enjoyed driving my high trim level $70K truck. Yes I know the Raptor is more expensive, but it is so much better IMO (well worth it)...really they aren't even comparable.
These videos always make me laugh. I own a 22 Tundra AND I work for Toyota. I see these vehicles first hand every single day. Most people love them. You have people that hate that they got rid of the V8. This engine is excellent. You have people that hate where the hybrid battery is. Where else would you suppose they put it. The only people bothered my most of these things are people that DON’T own them. No truck is perfect. No vehicle is issue free.
I have a 23 platinum hybrid. And my biggest complaint is the interior space. It's hideous. There is nowhere to put anything. The hard plastic scratches really easy. I am a contractor I can't even put my bidding book in the center console. This is not a road trip truck. I'm 5'11 I barely fit in the truck. No storage anywhere. Almost impossible to eat lunch in the truck. The engine sounds like a Scandia go-kart. The truck feels like it's going to die every time I stop at a stop sign. But the worst part is the mpgs. I really hope someone files a class action lawsuit against the lies they claimed. I bought the truck based on the mpg rating completely unacceptable. This is my 10th Toyota and by far the worst. I've loved all my other Toyotas. The lack of a home button on the infotainment Center is just completely unbelievable...and the suspension and Driving Experience is harsh.
You’re 5’11” and you barely fit in it? I’m 6’3” and I fit in my ‘23 1794 edition hybrid just fine. If you have the air suspension, it takes all of 10 mins to adjust the bump stops for a smoother ride.
I thought the Tundracwas bullet proof and I was looking at the new TRD to be an option for my replacement truck. I've heard nothing but horrible reviews on the remodeled Tundra. Hard Pass!!
You Nailed It Perfectly... This new version of the Tundra is a total failure and abomination to what was a Awesome Truck. I'll be keeping my 2010 Tundra TRD SR5 4x4 5.7L until my dying days....
It's also the least expensive out of all of those other options and all of the dealers in the store are driving them. I own one and love it so far. All of this stuff is picky garbage. For a day to day truck it's been great. Sure, go spend 20k more for an f150.... Toyota held prices at MSRP. Everyone else went higher than MSRP, remember when GM would knock off like $7k from MSRP and it was insulting? Now you are paying more....
I rushed to buy a 2021 because I wanted the V8 so much so I paid sticker and settled for a White 1794 while I wanted a Brown 1794. But those were crazy times my son and I went to 5 dealerships and only saw to 2 sales people in a few hours. lol. Sure I lamented the some of the new features on the 22 & 23's but I am starting to feel better with my decision.
Here we go again. Picking on the Tundra. I own a 2022 1794 Tundra and I love it. Yes, it does have some issues just like every other truck out there. I had the Turbo Issue as well. However, it was fixed and is doing well. The gas mileage is way better than the old Tundra. I used to own a 2018 SR5 TRD Off Road and yes it was great, but terrible gas mileage. This new Gen definitely does better in power and mileage. You just have to know how to do it. You do great reviews, but let it go man.
Way better? I've watched enough videos on youtube including my man Tim Esterdahl at pickup trucks/suv talk, and he never got above 16 mpg average for city the entire year he owned it, and averaged 18-19 mpg highway for that year as well. He just sold it and has a video talking about the poor mpg. That's the thing about the 2022 for us 2nd gen owners, when you calculate entry cost and performance and long-term costs with two turbos, two cooling systems, and all the issues that come with the first 2-3 years of a new model, you aren't going to make your money back until around the 200,000 mile mark. I'm glad you are enjoying it but I have zero "regerts" getting a 2021.
Appreciate it, but I'm just summarizing the recent reviews of the journalists that test these things. I truly hope your 1794 continues to serve you well.
@@SuperSnakePlissken well that's way better than the previous tundra. They only got 12 to 14 in city and highway. So I would say that's a big improvement. You have to know how to drive it. No problem here.
I'm glad he's doing these reviews. Too many people "reviewing" vehicles aren't critical enough. Most of them get press vehicles and are afraid to lose access to those vehicles if they are too critical. Hopefully Toyota steps up their game. This generation Tundra has so many steps backwards and very few steps forward.
I'm a long term owner of my vehicles (10+ years). I had a 2002 Silverado, then a 2012 F150 Lariat. The latest GM gas engines (EcoTec since 2014) are prone to lifter failure with mass failures / high repair cost. I loved the F150, but it suddenly turned into a money pit at only 82k miles. Sure it was 10 years old and I fully expected things to fail like alternator/belts/radiator, etc, but in the span of 6 months both IWE's failed ($3000) then the Trans took a major dump ($2500) - Molded Lead Frame. Both issues I feel should be recalls. When I was told the molded lead frame part literally had NO ETA, which implies 10's of thousands of others are having the same failure, I jumped ship to a 2023 Tundra Platinum. I see no fit/finish issues whatsoever. It's drives great, feels solid AF, and tows my 5000 lb trailer smooth as butter. I'm trusting in Toyota quality and this will be the 3rd Yota currently in a stable of 5 total vehicles.
2023 Tundra TRD Pro no issues love it!!! Untill today passanger window looks like it jumped the track when going down left a grease mark down the window did not scratch tint.
I bought the 2022 3rd Gen about 8 months ago which was my 5th Toyota truck, started with the T-100 back in the day, So far it has been a good truck. Power plant and transmission is fantastic. I will say though that I only have 13k miles on this truck so time will tell and resale values will tell. If you are betting against Toyota it may not be a good bet.
The ergonomics he mentions are indisputable… turn radius, fuel economy, usability of bed … it feels smaller but is still a pig in size? If it wasn’t for peoples innate nature to buy the latest and greatest, the 2021 beats this truck…. Especially when it comes to pricing… 80-90k cmon only a fool would spend that much
At this point in the Tundra game,,,Toyota is living off its laurels and the memory of what was.Thier Ugly,Overpriced,and poorly layer out and conceived,and wait until the turbos start to age.
@@davidparisi4980 That is the great thing about America is you have a choice. I'm sure Ford, Chevy, Dodge would love to have your business. Titan may even be an option for you.
I'll be the 1st to apologize cause I was one of your biggest critics but time has def not been kind to this truck. I'm truly hoping for a course correct for 2024 and beyond cause I just can't do the big 3 and my 2016 is starting to show its age, so it's Yota or nothing.
4WD Auto? Lol they mean an AWD truck? Because that is what it is. A plated transfer case. NOT a true chain driven solid hub/sleeve connection. They're a magazine "journalist" that seem to not understand the mechanics/ engineering at all.
I can't wait to get my new TUNDRA whenever my 08 is retired. The 2nd gen was critsized for perceived short-comings also. We know how that turned out. If a person listens to all the negatives, they'll never be able to enjoy all of the positives. Don't like what a manufacturer puts out, buy a different brand.
The 2nd gen was criticized for which shortcomings? It was introduced and it took the big 3 a decade to try to come up with competitive capability. Still haven't really done it.
@@kedrevs4037 First-off, mechanically no one cold touch it. People ranted about bed bounce. The paint was supposedly too thin. The frame was supposedly weak because it wasn't boxed. The dashboards were sinking. The camshaft problem was quickly handled, so that was a non-topic. As we speak, Ford is having major warranty claims. Gm can't seem to fix the same nagging problems they've had for years with its trucks. Don't know much about RAM. Toyota handles it business. If it ain't handled yet, I'm sure it will be handled. If a person don't like the vehicle for whatever reason, "Spend your money on something else."
I'm glad I have the '21. It's my 5th Yoda and I'm happy with the truck but disappointed in the build quality. My neighbor has a '23 F150 with some very cool features, especially the Radar in stop and go traffic that smoothly works to zero mph. I realize Ford had a tough year with recalls and I hope they come out of the Covid build days. I never want to work in SF again, but if I did I would trade in my Tundra for a F150.
I live in Ontario CANADA our SSM Dealer had 4 new Tundra's with low Mileage 3.5 Turbo Engines were replaced that i know of... I LEASED 2023 Tundra and put about 500 miles on it and had my transfer case and front differential replaced .. It took over 3 months to replace the parts, because the truck model was new .. The Dealer was very helpful and gave me a TUNDRA for a loaner ,also the TOYOTA CORP. gave me a compensation package for the inconvenience ... I've been dealing with Toyota for 40 years ,because i been treated with respect as a costumer very good service.. I said to TOYOTA CORP. that i hope this is a millstone QUALITY MUST BE PRIORITY... They wanted me to purchase it, said NO not yet there is to many moving parts like 2 extra rads , hoses , electric motors , sensors , fuses , relays , wiring , turbo wastegates, twin turbos, ETC like i said just to many thing that can go wrong ... The question is how many Miles will you get before MAJOR things start to FAIL WILL I GET 250,000 MILES BEFORE REPAIRS ... These Trucks are not cheap NOWADAYS ....
None of what Toyota did with this new gen makes sense: They went from having the biggest Double and Crew cabs to shrinking both, they went to a turbo V6 that gets negligibly better gas mileage than the previous gen, their rear bumper is USELESS, the plastic is cheap, the infotainment is spoty, and they're not best in class torque or HP. So glad I got my '21 Tundra. People buy Toyotas for reliability and simplicity.
I am in the market for a Pickup, need to do occasional towing of a horse trailer and compact tractor, but will mostly be using it in daily commutes to my office. I have owned and driven Lexus GX and LX SUV's since 2003 and beside a few quirky things, found them to be the most reliable vehicles that I have owned, certainly outperforming my Ford Expedition and GMC Yukon Denali by a long shot. But the new Toyota Tundra simply fails to resonate with me, too many engineering misses, flimsy plastic interior, horrible rear tailgate and bumper relative to all domestic manufacturers who are innovating ergonomics to make bed access an easier task, but not Toyota. The look of the Tundra is also rather polarizing with that front grill. I much prefer the aesthetics of the out-going model. It looked beefier, more robust to m,. The front seats in the out-going model also felt superior, sturdier, if not also more comfortable. The rear of the 2021 Crew Cab also appears to be more spacious compared to the 2022/23 models. If you are going to eliminate the V8, replacing in with an inherently less reliable V6 Turbo, you better get significantly better gas mileage, and the the Tundra also fails in this department, only netting an improved fuel economy of 2 mpg. You can say, well the 6 cycle turbo produces higher Hp and torque compared to the old, indestructible V8, but does it really matter. Toyota could have modulated the V8, even put a turbo and hybrid system on one and produced more torque than the 6 cylinder engine. Tow with these 6 cylinder engines and watch fuel economy drop to low single digits and I would wager a bet, long-term durability and reliability towing with a 6 would suffer compared to an 8 cylinder engine, simple common sense.
I am a toyota lover. I have a 1997 tacoma with 311,000 miles on it. I had a 2016 tundra 4x4 crewmax that I lost in a divorce. I test drove a 22 tundra, absolutely hated it. Ugly, whistling wind noise from the window, cheap plastic everywhere. I will absolutely not buy one. I will look for a low mileage 18-21 tundra
2022 Tundra SR5 with TRD Off Road Package, 50k MSRP, one recall for parking brake, 12mpg towing my 5000 lb Airstream, 14-15 mpg City, 20-23 mpg Highway, 18-19 mpg Average...Super Smooth Powerful Engine and Transmission, Quiet Spacious Cabin, Comfortable Ride, Composite Truck Bed, Army Green....I Love the Truck, will it be as reliable as the V8, only time will tell...but still probably more reliable than Ford, Ram, or Chevy/GMC....
Toyota's engineers are all trying to fix last years fails to work on the current year. So many people don't want this truck just because of the v6 engine. All the other problems are just adding nails to the coffin. I have 2 tundras, corolla, and about to add another toyota for my daughter. I was hoping for a knock out truck now I will probably look at the HD ram or ford for my next truck.
2022 Tundra Premium the door rubber makes movement rubber noise . When you leave the back window down it sounds like the entire back is making noise like the bolts are loose as if the bed is moving . I have Toyota 4 Runner this is my 6 th new purchase never had any issues .My new RX 450 H Lexus never had any issues . Tundra needs to be examined further to understand and listen to the consumers complaints and address each issue and come up with solutions . Reputation is very important ones you loose that there goes the name .
Correction he had a 2019 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro and It’s funny how he criticized the new gen tundras and how he would never buy a black truck and he did both.
IF ITS NOT BROKE DONT TRY AND FIX IT !!! NEVER THOUGHT TOYOTA WOULD DUMB DOWN TO THIS LEVEL !!!
I went to a local Toyota dealership on a Sunday and parked my 2013 SR5 next to a 2023 Limited and a 2023 SR5; the difference in build quality was glaringly apparent. The redesigned 2022 & 2023 Tundra has a cheapness that is just hard to accept, especially at the prices being asked. I presently own two Toyotas and was considering purchasing a new Tundra; however, the quality of the new Tundra models isn't up to the standard I expect from Toyota.
I got 23 platinum trim. Seems spot on. No observable defects. No trim on windows like some models. Maybe that's the difference but the mfer seems spot on. Just drove it 450 miles over the weekend on short road trip. Solid. No sqeeks or rattles.
@caseysaunders2137 I would hope so. My 2006 Golf with 210,000 miles doesn't squeak or rattle.
I get in these newer cars and they really do just feel cheaper. I think earlier 2000's was peak quality for pricing across most car brands.
@@caseysaunders2137 same here. 2023 limited, and everything is great. I drove a 2024 sr5 before I bought my limited, and it was great too.
Things are made almost completely out of plastic today. All new vehicles are. My 2023 Tundra feels SO MUCH better than the 2022 ford f150 I drive for work.
I have a 2022 Tundra TRD off-road and the engine and 1 turbo blew up at 20k miles
What I find amazing is that Toyota took forever and a day to get this truck in the marketplace and it just sucks! No tow hooks on off road editions lol 😂
SMH, No Tow Hooks
Fast forward to 2024 and the Tacoma is nearly as bad. The worst part is that Toyota boosted MSRP's $15-20k higher like we wouldn't remember that it was just 2017 when a Tacoma TRD Pro started at $42k and now that's 2024 Tacoma SR pricing.
The build quality is very very bad. The windows flop around when rolled down, the interior rattles if you turn the stereo above 50%. It’s very disheartening considering that I’ve always liked the previous tundras
Yep, this is exactly the sort of thing we expect not to see from Toyota
Better than GMs lifters failing for the last 15yrs
And fords eating oil
Yep…I’ve owned 3 Silverados in the last 10 years. Replaced 4 transmissions and an engine. The 2023 tundra can’t be worse than that.
@@seanvine39 yeah Toyota backs their warranties more than any other company
@@ronmilly2121 some seem to get lucky Others not so much
Never buy the alpha model, no matter what company.
Solid points. Toyotas QRD philosophy is basically nonexistent on the Tundra. There are a lot of RUclipsrs that reiterate what you’re saying. Many of them had bought the new redesigned Tundra and experienced what you’re saying. This truck took so long to develop and this is the best Toyota can do? IMO Mike Sweers the head of design and development needs to go. He’s out of touch with the consumer and failed. I was looking for a new Tundra back in 18 I was looking at replacing my 07 I emailed Toyota asking about the redesign? Emailed me back saying it’s coming soon and even asked what would I like on the new Tundra. I had like many high hopes but got tired of waiting. Bought a new 2020. Glad I did.
Smart move on the '20.
I have tried to like the new tundra. I rented a 2wd sst and drove it for a week. It felt like an overgrown Tacoma to me. I like the Tacoma and I like the tundra more since I got to spend time with it but I don't think it compares to the old model. The cabin is smaller and fuel economy was only 2mpg better than the old tundra 4x4 5.7. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they will make a midlife change to address the issues. Until that happens I will keep driving the old tundra.
I am also a Toyota fan but, Mike Sweers has to go !!! I was very disappointed owner of a 3rd gen Tacoma so, I sold it, and bought another 2nd gen Tundra.
I think it's everyone else on that team. Admittedly, it all falls on his shoulders. They completely ignored the working person when designing this truck.
and they completely ignored a working truck.
3rd gen Tacoma is bullet proof. What were you disappointed about?
I don't think Sweers had nearly as much control as he would like. Toyota forced this truck through and slacked on supplier quality checks. The big misses are less headroom and legroom, lower payload, larger turning radius, really, really bad programming for the infotainment system, plastic bumpers and several assembly problems that have been documented. I would never expected this many problems from so many areas from Toyota.
thay gave me a 2021 tacoma trd offroad as a rental.I was shocked how bad the driving dynamics are the tranny on the free way always hunting for the right gear,the engine make alot of noise but don't go anywhere unless you rev up in the higher rpm's, my wife hated it. now if they upgrade the engine and go with a 10speed tranny maybe we wouldn't have hated it so much. oh and the thing shifted so hard once on me the service engine light came on.
I have a 2023 Tundra and there’s no issues so far first 5k miles. None of the reviews you mentioned were found. Can post links of those?
Then you didn't try
What’s your assessment of it now, a year later? Good? Bad? Considering a 2023 myself
Don’t know man, I’ve had mine for a few months and love it. Yeah the wind noise is there but I doesn’t bother me. The interior layout is fine to me. I also didn’t go around the truck pointing out every little gap .
Glad it suits your needs.
I have a 2022 Tundra TRD off-road and the engine and 1 turbo blew up at 20k miles
If you were in the market for a truck today, would you buy a used previous gen Tundra or a new big 3 truck?
Go drive a titan pro 4x
I would have a XD pro4x except for need of larger fuel tank.
In all likelihood I would purchase an AT4 2500 if I wee to get something new. Almost pulled trigger on one right before first of year, but I love my Tundra and want to see where this market goes.
I hear Chevy and Ram have always had lots of problems. Ive heard Ford and now Toyota has their own problems. Looks wise the Chevy wins in my opinion but I wouldn't want to own one out of warranty.
This appears to be the bashing channel! I recently purchased the 2023 Tundra and I love it. Most enjoyable truck I have owned. Ive had Ford and 2nd Gen Tundra and liked both too.
I primarily use my truck to haul my dirt bikes and tow a trailer.
With this 3rd Gen I like it as a commuter vehicle because its so much fun to drive. It's easy to find negatives and bash things and you would think one positive comment would be said? Nope? Use your common sense... may not have met your expectations but this thread is out of control. Truck is awesome and I am so happy I purchased it.
Tell that to the people with blown engines, turbo failures, leaking roofs, rattling windows, etc.
My 2023 tundra platinum hybrid was a mess. From whistling windows on the highway to air suspension riding on the bump stops from the factory. Had it for 8 days and had enough. Sold it. Owned a 2004 tundra for 15 years and it was really good. This gen is extremely disappointing for years 1&2.
I also have a 2020 highlander that needed to have the fuel tank replaced, the sender replaced, the drivers side window control switches replaced, and the rear hatch struts all before 30k miles and under warranty thankfully. Toyota isn’t what it used to be. Still less issues than other brands, but not what it once was.
great comment, thank you.
You are just unlucky or spewing tall tails.
Yea sorry, buy a Japanese built Toyota.
Car and Driver never tell the truth. They lie based on how much ad money they get.
Don't doubt that, but they had more than a little negative to say
I was unpleasantly surprised how soft the new Tundra actually is, all the body panels pushes in/ flex really easy, seems like the body is made of some kind of plastic metal, many small issues with this Truck, and the dealers are still marking up the prices by 20K, like really a platinum 2wd was $88K
Just incredible.
Panels are cosmetic metal. Most cars are like this now because it's easier and cheaper to simply paint and replace a bad panel. Make those panels a few millimeters thicker and see where that puts your weight rating and mileage lmao
That sucks man cause I paid about 22k less for my 1794 4w and it’s solid,
I am a self admitted Toyota Fanboy overall and I have had many Toyota's of all types over the years. I was excited about the new Tundra but after thinking about purchasing the 2022 I decided against that move. Some of your observations are why I have decided to keep my 2016 Limited Double Cab for a good while longer as I feel it is generally more solid... she is thirsty though but the 5.7 V8 is a nice engine.
2016 club high-five. I wish I could have gotten my CrewMax with a 6.5' bed but oh well, bought an enclosed trailer anyway.
Good decision.
No reason to get rid of a car if it's working fine
You can find issues with all newer trucks today...its just not Toyota
Thanks for the review. great job point out al the issue but i still love my 23 limited hybrid
Hey, I want everyone’s ownership to be as successful as yours, problem is it just isn’t
When you buy a Toyota customers want liability durability and lasting power. I left safety out because I believe that’s a given. What we are seeing here with the 23 tundra is that the quality is going from worse to horrendous. These twin turbo engines are a time bomb of an engine that at some point have catastrophic failures that will cost the owner a fortune. This new generation of tundra (2022-23) is putting nicely a disaster.
I recently bought a 2023 and I’ve had no issues, everything is put together correctly, there’s no lag or hesitation when I punch its 400 plus HP power train. I test drove the F150 and Silverado 1500, and wasn’t highly impressed. You can pick apart any vehicle if that’s your intent. I often see Fords, found on the road dead in a daily basis in TX, but people continuously purchase them. So I dunno
I agree you can pick apart anything, but this Tundra has no draw for me
I had a 2022 TRD Pro...was awesome for about 4 months then issues started popping up. After 2 months I got rid of it for a Raptor. I liked the Pro but there were to many issues (i my mind anyways). I hope you have better luck with your Tundra. Cheers!
@@AgentGeo From the perspective of someone trying to make a decision... can you list the problems you had instead of just saying you had problems? I currently own a 2022 Silverado Z71 Trail Boss 5.3 V8 fully loaded truck and I've never been more disappointed in a truck in my life! The fit and finish, glitchy infotainment system, noises, creeks, popping in suspension, paint issues, 2 recalls so far, 2 unexplained dead battery issues (this is an every day driver with no mods whatsoever) 3 times no start for no reason, poor fuel economy from what's stated, and all complaints are backed by many other owners. My Silverado only has 2245 miles on it. Not even an oil change yet with all these issues.
Ford Eco-Boost motors are having unreal amount of burned up turbos... and how they rate Dodge as #1? Dodge is notorious for poor resale and quality. I wouldn't touch that company if they paid me.
then vomiting it up with zero detail.
@@jasonbodie586 Sure. I'd like to preface the rest of this by stating that the Raptor has always been my dream vehicle. That being said the TRD Pro was great initially but after about 4-5 months of ownership some little things really started to bug me. 1) mine developed wind noise from the moonroof and driver side window, 2) cheap plastic interior had already started to crack (driver seat side), 3) squeaky center console (DIY'd that), 4) rear window weather stripping would not align properly, 4) very poor turning radius, 5) high pitched humming noise coming from the hybrid regenerative braking system that toyota claimed was normal (this drove me nuts)...to mention a few. The one that really took the cake was the noise from the braking system. It truly made the driving experience unenjoyable for me. Still was a good truck but for $70K i expected better. Yes i know the Raptor is more expensive, but it checked all the boxes and like I had eluded to I have always wanted one. Hope that helps:)
The guy on Video Loves F150s , RAMs , etc American brand and dislikes Toyota just because it's Jap. I remember few years back when guys like this dude started a nationally televised lie about Toyota's self accelerating and failing to stop ,it was later revealed it was a lie because GM lost the Number 1 spot . This Tundra is by far a better truck than any F150 , Silverdo or a RAM . stop your pathetic lies .I mean guy in the Video
It truly is hard to believe just how bad Toyota did designing/engineering this truck. It doesn’t even make any sense why they would do this to themselves let alone their customers.
The TNGa architecture from Toyota really handicapped what could be done with this truck
lol hypertrophic comment of the year goes to this turd, settle down. its 98% a fibe truck that most owners love. You geeks are acting like the blow up like fords and have zero resale like everything else.
You have to look at where we are politically. Why invest in quality? If you suspect a major economic crash is coming just make something that will make them money short term and their fans will buy
@@justinbryant6676damn it. This makes the most sense. While Im actively shopping for one. Yikes lol
I think the new Tundra is ugly in comparison to the previous model. Not to mention the issues the new Tundra has that were not issues in the old Tundra. 2021 Tundra or earlier is my choice.
Styling definitely polarizing, some say growing on them. Looks worse to me the more I see. With the lift balance of TRD PRo, its better, but what isn't
I think my 23 Tundra looks sharp. I love rolling the whole back glass down too
This is my 3rd Toyota in the last 20 years. I drive 40k miles a year. My first I traded in with 375K miles my second I gave to my brother 515k miles and now I’m on my 3rd in 23 tundra. I test drove f150, Silverado and the ram; they all had their upsides and downside. I went with Toyota because they make their money on engine longevity. That’s where Toyota has the upper hand and that’s what most important to my for how I use my trucks; reliability and longevity.
I hope you get another 500k out of it
Any updates?
Toyota went from being very reliable to being very risky to buy.
Went from being made in japan to USA
Went from naturally aspirated to twin turbos.
Dads tundra blew the turbos at 2k miles.
Sorry to hear, hope it is doing better
toyota was never all that reliable to begin with
I bought a ‘21 knowing it was my last chance for the V8. I do like the look of these trucks but they need to get the kinks out. That’s what I was afraid of if I waited for the new generation.
I just picked up my 7th Toyota in 4 yrs (100 S LC, 20’ Taco, 18’ LC, 11’ LX, 21’ 1794 & 22’ 4Runner). The new one is a 23’ Tundra Platinum. I drove a bunch before making a deal. My initial impression is very positive. Got $3600 off MSRP which was not expected. 1st big road trip is this weekend into the Colorado Mtns. Lots of mud and snow to test this rig. I’ll report back my thoughts.
Where did you buy? $3600 off msrp is a good deal?
@@RJ-uy4ij Stevenson East in Aurora, CO
Still waiting for report
Hope he’s not stranded somewhere in a Colorado mountain froze to death in a new broken down tundra….
Sorry for the delay in commenting back. I rarely check these threads. Actually I did almost get stranded on Lynx pass in late spring but managed to get out. I put 10k miles on the truck in 5 months and just recently sold it. The vehicle preformed incredibly well. I’ll be looking for a 2024 Platinum with the TRD package that has the rear locker. I’m currently driving around in a 11’ LX570.
TundraDude34 on RUclips said the 2017 was the quintessential year, the year before Toyota Safety Sense started and still had the transmission cooler. I had a 2019 and traded back to the 2017 to get rid of TSS and get the transmission cooler. But I only get 11MPG towing my 3500lbs 2020 Escape 19, aerodynamic like Airstream.
I've seen Tundradude34, seems like a nice guy. Nothing wrong with 17s. From what I can tell he doesn't put 500 miles per month on his trucks, has never had it tow anything or been offroad. He has every right to own a truck, just doesn't seem to ever use it.
@@kedrevs4037 true. That kid seems to have deep pockets for mall crawlers.
Are you just walking up to the trucks on the lot, and looking though the window without test driving them?
I have test driven 4 of them
Toyota dropped the ball on this truck!
Thanks for your opinion. The new tundra ain't for average Jo's I suggest you to buy a ford maverick my friend
@@pd4981 enjoy being ignorant;(
I'm a toyota loyalist and I agree, they missed the mark big time.
I’m happy you’re disappointed. I the internets biggest toyota hater told everyone from the get go that the tundra was dead on arrival. Nobody listened yet here we are 😁
How am I celebrating your disappointment?
One of the few RUclipsrs who hasn't switched to the new gen I get everybody has to keep their channel going but kid revs my hat's off to you The old generation was so much better this thing is ugly it's cheaply made and it's expensive and he gets no better gas mileage so lose lose lose
My biggest issue is quality control. It's like their is none.
I bought a 22 Limited TRD OR- and I love mine. The power train has been phenomenal- no problems. No wind issues. Other brands have all had their issues- no truck is free of problems.
2nd gen Tundra was about as close as it gets
You had me until you mention that consumer reports rated the Rivian an 87 and higher than Toyota. Clearly there is some bias for EVs, and I would not be surprised if they were pushing an agenda. I'd take those reports with a grain of salt. However, the new tundra still remains a downgrade from the previous generation.
Doesn't matter what consumer reports says so much, its all the clear evidence all over the internet, RUclips and dealer service shops...
@@spinfish1434 True but my point about their rating for the Rivian still stands. And if it doesn't matter what consumer reports says, then the uploaded shouldn't have talked about them so much because clearly they're pushing EVs.
@@elli0tbriggs Yeah , I felt the same way about the Rivian and Lightning. That's why I didn't talk about the CR article when it first came out in November. But when Motortrend and Car&Driver did their reviews, it was pretty harsh.
I’ve had 0 problems with my new gen 3 tundra.
Not yet…
Same here. No issues to report. I purposely waited until after the first model year shook some things out as all vehicles generally have some issues when a redesign happens.
I hope the good luck contues but I think @stephenwright133 used the key word for you, "yet". It's early fellas.
@KEdRevs I believe I heard this same garbage back in 07 with the 2nd generation. Too early to jump on the 3rd Gen hate bandwagon.
I have a 2022 TRD pro and I do really like it overall and it looks great in the lunar rock color but there certainly are some issues including things you’ve mentioned like interior trim cracking on the seat and I have an exterior piece of trim that has also cracked. My biggest issue with the truck is the turn radius though it’s awful. There is a slight rattle that I haven’t figured out yet also. MPG is barely over 16 for me but it’s not a daily commuter for me so it’s not my biggest concern
It’s not all Toyotas fault…. It is the government emission requirements. Twin turbo… afm.. 10 speed transmissions all have issues across all manufacturers
Hard pass on a new toyota Tundra. A garbage product. I like my friend's 5.7 l version, was gonna get one once my F150 dies, switch brands. I only use my truck for towing and material delivery so the MPG is not my number one concern....reliability is #1. I'll be upgrading to F250 gasser I suppose.
Love that Godzilla Engine.
Gotta say, I almost 100% disagree with everything said in this video. I truly hate pickup trucks but my wife's tundra has been one of the nicest ive driven and definitely been happy to own it so far. Handles extremely well for a truck, mileage is decent for what it is (averaging about 18.5 city and highway mixed). 4H and 4L work fine. it hauls what we need it to just fine, and the fit and finish we felt are really nice (good quality leather, no rattles or misaligned body panels). Again I am not a truck guy but im happy with our Tundra. Most of the complaints made in this video I do believe are either overstated or just flat out wrong.
"Not a truck guy" says it all. I don't mean that in a bad way, but if your looking for a car that is sort of truck like, this is a good fit.
I went to the dealership check out a limited. Gasket around door had gaps not secured. There is a 3/8 gap between the frame and headlight where it narrows down up the hood.
Just doesn’t sound like what we expected from Toyota
Been driving my 08 crewmax since I bought it new. 250,000 miles on it now and only fixes was my radiator and my starter like 4k miles ago. Was really looking forward to getting this new tundra but I think they butchered it inside and out. And yes the quality went way down. I won’t even consider this new tundra.
keep it
Great! Video, I myself own two TUNDRA'S 2021 Tundra Sport Dbl cab and 2021Tundra TRD PRO Dbl cab, I'm so lucky to have purchased them before quality control disappeared from Toyota. That same year we purchased 2021 4Runner Limited before everything started falling apart and car prices being overpriced. you can see a big difference in quality in just 2 years.
I'm pretty sure the 2023 4runner limited still have the same quality control. They are still produced in japan.
You’ll be set for two decades with those vehicles if necessary
Remember the little old lady in the Wendy's ad saying: "Where's the beef?" Well, where's the tow hooks?
Damn guess I’ll keep my 2021!
Much better choice
In April 2022 I visited a dealer that had a ton of low miles used 2022 Tundras. I know taste is subjective but I felt the 2022 models looked ugly and the interior after being used for a few months looked cheap.
Yes they do.
Bad look when a dealership has a lot of used recent model tundras.
Recently, I got this truck as a rental, and after a week, I was extremely disappointed with the mpg I was averaging 13.7 MPG. Why is that!? I don't drive erratic, just cruise with traffic
Turbos
I’ve only had my 22 Tundra for 3 months but so far so good. I am coming from a 19 Tacoma. The Tundra is definitely not perfect but so far I like it a lot and enjoy driving it. Has its pros and cons like everything else. I just trust Toyota over everyone else.
Hope it serves you well in the future
No offense but I believe Tacoma owners were the targeted audience, otherwise the changes they made in design make no sense. The cabin is considerably smaller than the last gen Tundra as well.
@@ultraneight no, it isnt. comparing it in size to a tacoma is only a comparison a true redact could make.
@@jsnx9067 The interior is smaller than last gen and bigger than the Tacoma, this isn't even debatable. If you're referring to the exterior, then yes, it is unnecessarily large while stealing interior space. Lastly, it's equally as ugly as your baby Tacoma little fella.
@@jsnx9067 Are you claiming the cab isn’t smaller than the last gen?
I'm coming from a 2018 Tundra and decided to wait a year for Toyota to figure out their quality control. I've now had my '23 Tundra for 8 weeks and the number of issues I have with it is unacceptable. Filed a case with Toyota USA and they promised to send someone, it's seen 4 weeks and nothing. Dealership is telling me that everyone has those same complaints, but Toyota does not have a fix so we cant help you.
Until someone gets a troubled vehicle, they can't truly appreciate how much anguish it causes, or how much a reliable one is worth
Should have bought a GM or Ford. 😂
@@vianad9285 right, go for gm with lifters issues, or a subscription based infotainment, you gonna love it too
Same. I’ve had mine since November and I’m also waiting to hear back from Toyota. The transmission jerks the truck when shifting into 1st. For the price, I find it unacceptable to sell a truck they knew had an issue and no fix or timeline for a fix.
@@adambdenman I ended up trading my '23 for a '19 for the time being. I was lucky enough that a GMC dealer gave me more than what I paid for it so it's fine. But I'm going to wait for the GMC to catch up on their inventory and switch to an AT4 3.0 Duramax. A few of my friends have a '20 and '22 and love them, I'm hoping Gm. can be more reliable than Tundra at this point.
I’ll be the oddball here and admit I like the redesigned Tundra I own a 2023 4X2 hybrid Limited Tundra so far zero issues and consistently getting at least 21 mpg but I’m bracing myself for all this shits that’s coming my way oh well I’ve been called worse 😂 thank God it’s just a truck not like I’ve been diagnosed with cancer and dying in 6 months
I think you got more than just the wrong truck. You got the wrong idea. GLad it's working for you, but no one looking to call you names, this is about the truck, not you.
Mine is great. Had a 2011 that I also loved. I’ve never seen a series of videos dedicated to one man’s hatred of a vehicle.
Neither have I.
@@globetrotter7778same.
I've done over 200 videos, most of them about trucks. 7 are about the new Tundra.
i bought a low miles (2,000) 2021 TRD Pro in April 2022 instead of buying a new 2022 model. I was able to test drive a 2022 1794 and a 2022 limited. I'm a big guy (260 pounds) and found the seats in the 2021 TRD Pro to be the most comfortable of those 3 trucks. I have heard people complain about not so great ride comfort on the previous gen. My truck has the all season Michelin tires and while they don't look as cool as the more aggressive looking offroad type tires my ride is very smooth and comfortable. The cabin is very quiet and the v8 combined with TRD Exhaust is heaven for me. The only thing I don't like is the "shift hang" at speeds under 30 miles per hour. I'm considering having my truck "Dap Tuned" which Im told improves the annoying transmission issues like shift hang.
You have a great truck. I have a '16 Tundra TRD Pro and never had a single problem with it. Best of luck to you with your truck in the future.
I have the same truck but in a double cab and absolutely love it. I've driven all over the country in it and its the best highway long trip truck I've ever had (owned four trucks since 2000). I put a set of Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70/18 on it and it really makes the truck look great. Barely decreases your mpg by 0.5-1 mpg max. I did have the speedo modded to make up for the larger tires. I definitely recommend you try some Nittos when those Michelins wear out.
The driver's seat in my 2018 Tundra is the best ever. It's like a half of a Greyhound bus seat...flat and big. Lots of space. Love it.
I agree with you! I love my 21 Pro you have to know how to drive the truck. The least mileage I get is 15mpg and I can get 18-19 mpg on the highway. I keep my speed consistent and I don't have a heavy foot.
@@SuperSnakePlissken How much of a ride quality difference did you detect between the Michelin all season and the Nitto Ridge Grapplers? Also, do the Nitto Ridge Grapplers increase the height of the truck?
Where are they being built?
San Antonio
i purchase my 2023 tundra SR5 4x4 on NOV. 16 2022 its FEB 23 2023 today.. IVE had my truck for ONLY 8 days my 4X4 ISSUES.. So far they've changed my transfer case and they might have to change my front axle as well. I will find this out tomorrow . I've owned many TOYOTA''S since 1976 and you are right they've changed many things to the negative side..
Man 8 days out of 3 months, I would LEmon Law that thing and go get something else.
I’ve driven trucks for 45 yrs. 5 New ones over time. Fords, GMC, Dodge. But my current truck is a 2000 GMC 1500 4wd regular cab short bed 180,000 mi excellent paint no rust and no major problems. Certainly no comparison to new trucks nowadays but knowing all the issues that many new trucks have plus the outrageous prices I’m pretty content with what I have Plus I don’t need a truck that’s as long as the 4 door crew cabs
Solid truck
Toyota took away the gem 5.7l away, instead of making it better. Then, stuck a v6 and had to add turbos and hybrid for more power to compensate.
You just don't put a p*ssy ass v6 in a full size truck. Full size truck I'm thinking reliability, toughness and raw power. I don't give a shit about MPG. put that shit in the midsized trucks
About sums it up
I have a 2024 Tundra. Zero issues so far. I Love it.
Hope it continues to work well for you.
100% agree. It's only related by name and only the fanboys will defend the latest Tundra and Tacoma. It's completely unacceptable that even 2024 models have engine faillures. So much for "bad batches" of bearings . So much of 0.005% failure rate. The guys that buy that live in clown world.
I have been saying since it came out that the new bed is a JOKE. The trim fitment sucks. The interior plastic bits suck. Pretty terrible oversights by Mike Sweers considering he's the head of truck development and came from a plastics background. If the fitment and quality of the plastics are this bad, it was a conscious decision that was overseen by Mike.
I was comparing Tundra with F150 .. your review shed a new light… not sure some reviews are showing Tundra getting better gas mileage then F150
I think they are in the ball park in terms of MPGS, but turbos always do worse than EPA rating
I wonder if the new Tacoma is going to have these same kind of problems? Because the new Tacoma is copying the tundra a little bit or a lot. I love my 2018 Tacoma never had a single issue with it so I'm really interested in the new Tacoma. I am thinking about the new Lexus GX though. What are you think about your Lexus GX 460? I am thinking about the GX 550 but I'm not sure about that twin turbo V6. Same engine as the tundra. Thank you
I've never even heard of a GX460 problem. The new GX look intriguing, but the last time (early 1970s) our government had this big push for "greener" vehicles about the same time that unions were negotiating major compensation changes, vehicle quality in the U.S. went to H&!!. It stayed there for about 4 decades, and well here we are doing it again.
@@kedrevs4037 Yeah who knows? I think the unions are already getting overpaid but that's just my thought. The good thing about the Lexus GX is it's not going to be built here. It's going to be built in Japan. But it's still built to EPA standards for here. I trust the Japanese engineers for reliability. Thank you 👍
WOW! This is disappointing. I drove a Tacoma for many years. When I decided to upgrade to a full size truck. I thought about waiting on the New Tundra. Man, I’m glad I didn’t.
Looks like another year driving my ‘07 5.7L SR5.
Thats not so bad
Nothing is going to be perfect 💯 by man made materials, but I experiences that Toyota vehicles are better quality and lasting longer than Ford and Chrysler vehicles, my first truck was F150 gives me all kinds problems, my Tacoma very minimal, will see my new 2023 TRD Pro max hybrid
We are going to need radar to know when this truck begins to approach “it’s ok” let alone 100% perfect
Man.. you go really hard to diss this truck in your videos..I don't think it really matter what "they" recommend, Them joints still selling..almost 95,000 sold in 2022 in the US (look it up)...🤣 Everybody I met that has one, love their trucks..Mine has been nothing but great since I had it. 🤷🏾♂️
apparently yours is a good one. but lots of problems. It is really, really bad for some people.
where was it built?
San Antonio, same as 2nd gen, 1st gen was built in Indiana
Earlier 2nd generation were also built in Indiana. My wife worked there.@kedrevs4037
I have own a 23 Limited Tundra Off-road package for the last 4 months and I’ve had a 3,834 miles on the clock! I have no problem of anything that your saying. Tell you what tho, Tundra all day long. The only way for you to know is to own one and never rely on what the consumers report are saying. It’s how you use it, but then again that’s me. One thing I can tell you is my 2015 LX570 is way faster in the long run, other than I’m loving it! No American truck that will come close.
Ummm 3,800 miles and no problems? I hope it continues to work well for you.
I drove F150 and Sierra….preferred the Tundra. Feels more planted when driving…and has a better seating position for me. I felt like the F150 was going to tip over when turning. One reviewer online says it handles like a shopping cart. Tundra handles much better on the streets. And looks better too.
Haven't had that experience in F150 or GM
Interesting, I have the new TRD Pro and love it, have seen no issues like you talk about. Ill be on the lookout though.
I hope you don't get any issues, it is no fun
Just seeing this video now. I would have to say you are spot on. When i watched your first video i was a tundra fan and was researching the 2022 tundra...so i was one of those "this guy is nuts" people. I ended up buying a 2022 TRD Pro. But about 6 months later i traded it in for 2023 F150 Raptor. I had many of these issues that were not problems initially that crept up at the 4-5 month ownership mark. Most I was trying to live with but The nail in the coffin was the hybrid regenerative braking system started to make a high pitched humming noise when ever i pressed down on the break pedal. I put up with that for two months since Toyota told me that was "normal". That alone drove me away because I no longer enjoyed driving my high trim level $70K truck. Yes I know the Raptor is more expensive, but it is so much better IMO (well worth it)...really they aren't even comparable.
Sorry it didn't work better for you, hope the raptor serves you well.
These videos always make me laugh. I own a 22 Tundra AND I work for Toyota. I see these vehicles first hand every single day. Most people love them. You have people that hate that they got rid of the V8. This engine is excellent. You have people that hate where the hybrid battery is. Where else would you suppose they put it. The only people bothered my most of these things are people that DON’T own them. No truck is perfect. No vehicle is issue free.
The F150s battery sits below the floor. Toyota copied everything else for this hybrid, why not that.
I have a 23 platinum hybrid. And my biggest complaint is the interior space. It's hideous. There is nowhere to put anything. The hard plastic scratches really easy. I am a contractor I can't even put my bidding book in the center console. This is not a road trip truck. I'm 5'11 I barely fit in the truck. No storage anywhere. Almost impossible to eat lunch in the truck. The engine sounds like a Scandia go-kart. The truck feels like it's going to die every time I stop at a stop sign. But the worst part is the mpgs. I really hope someone files a class action lawsuit against the lies they claimed. I bought the truck based on the mpg rating completely unacceptable. This is my 10th Toyota and by far the worst. I've loved all my other Toyotas.
The lack of a home button on the infotainment Center is just completely unbelievable...and the suspension and Driving Experience is harsh.
Thank you for the info.
You’re 5’11” and you barely fit in it? I’m 6’3” and I fit in my ‘23 1794 edition hybrid just fine. If you have the air suspension, it takes all of 10 mins to adjust the bump stops for a smoother ride.
I thought the Tundracwas bullet proof and I was looking at the new TRD to be an option for my replacement truck. I've heard nothing but horrible reviews on the remodeled Tundra. Hard Pass!!
Bulletproof? OH, you are definitely thinking of the 2nd gen.
You Nailed It Perfectly... This new version of the Tundra is a total failure and abomination to what was a Awesome Truck. I'll be keeping my 2010 Tundra TRD SR5 4x4 5.7L until my dying days....
Wish Toyota nailed it.
It's also the least expensive out of all of those other options and all of the dealers in the store are driving them. I own one and love it so far. All of this stuff is picky garbage. For a day to day truck it's been great. Sure, go spend 20k more for an f150.... Toyota held prices at MSRP. Everyone else went higher than MSRP, remember when GM would knock off like $7k from MSRP and it was insulting? Now you are paying more....
This is fantasy and denial. Dealers had TRD Pros and Capstones at near or even above 6 figures. I am glad you love it.
I rushed to buy a 2021 because I wanted the V8 so much so I paid sticker and settled for a White 1794 while I wanted a Brown 1794. But those were crazy times my son and I went to 5 dealerships and only saw to 2 sales people in a few hours. lol. Sure I lamented the some of the new features on the 22 & 23's but I am starting to feel better with my decision.
You did great
Lol he’s so angry! 😂 it’s just a truck bro
I am not sure where you get anger from
Here we go again. Picking on the Tundra. I own a 2022 1794 Tundra and I love it. Yes, it does have some issues just like every other truck out there. I had the Turbo Issue as well. However, it was fixed and is doing well. The gas mileage is way better than the old Tundra. I used to own a 2018 SR5 TRD Off Road and yes it was great, but terrible gas mileage. This new Gen definitely does better in power and mileage. You just have to know how to do it. You do great reviews, but let it go man.
I know right the new tundra ain't for average Jo's. There will always be haters no matter what. LOVE my 22 platinum. 10k miles zero issues so far.
Way better? I've watched enough videos on youtube including my man Tim Esterdahl at pickup trucks/suv talk, and he never got above 16 mpg average for city the entire year he owned it, and averaged 18-19 mpg highway for that year as well. He just sold it and has a video talking about the poor mpg.
That's the thing about the 2022 for us 2nd gen owners, when you calculate entry cost and performance and long-term costs with two turbos, two cooling systems, and all the issues that come with the first 2-3 years of a new model, you aren't going to make your money back until around the 200,000 mile mark. I'm glad you are enjoying it but I have zero "regerts" getting a 2021.
Appreciate it, but I'm just summarizing the recent reviews of the journalists that test these things. I truly hope your 1794 continues to serve you well.
@@SuperSnakePlissken well that's way better than the previous tundra. They only got 12 to 14 in city and highway. So I would say that's a big improvement. You have to know how to drive it. No problem here.
I'm glad he's doing these reviews. Too many people "reviewing" vehicles aren't critical enough. Most of them get press vehicles and are afraid to lose access to those vehicles if they are too critical. Hopefully Toyota steps up their game. This generation Tundra has so many steps backwards and very few steps forward.
Hi
Right now my wife and I own 07 tundra, 16 es350, 18 NX300, 23 GR86, and last but not least 07 RX 350. I love my toyt.
That is quite a stable
He’s telling the truth , I been hearing the same about the new tundra . It’s a beautiful truck tho 😢
I'm a long term owner of my vehicles (10+ years). I had a 2002 Silverado, then a 2012 F150 Lariat. The latest GM gas engines (EcoTec since 2014) are prone to lifter failure with mass failures / high repair cost. I loved the F150, but it suddenly turned into a money pit at only 82k miles. Sure it was 10 years old and I fully expected things to fail like alternator/belts/radiator, etc, but in the span of 6 months both IWE's failed ($3000) then the Trans took a major dump ($2500) - Molded Lead Frame. Both issues I feel should be recalls. When I was told the molded lead frame part literally had NO ETA, which implies 10's of thousands of others are having the same failure, I jumped ship to a 2023 Tundra Platinum. I see no fit/finish issues whatsoever. It's drives great, feels solid AF, and tows my 5000 lb trailer smooth as butter. I'm trusting in Toyota quality and this will be the 3rd Yota currently in a stable of 5 total vehicles.
I hope it holds up better for you, sorry about the F150, that sucks
2023 Tundra TRD Pro no issues love it!!! Untill today passanger window looks like it jumped the track when going down left a grease mark down the window did not scratch tint.
that's what you call no issues?
Coming from a 2006 Tundra SR5 doublecab, which ive kept btw, I jumped ship and got a 2024 Pro4x XD Titan. Fantastic truck.
I bought the 2022 3rd Gen about 8 months ago which was my 5th Toyota truck, started with the T-100 back in the day, So far it has been a good truck. Power plant and transmission is fantastic. I will say though that I only have 13k miles on this truck so time will tell and resale values will tell. If you are betting against Toyota it may not be a good bet.
The ergonomics he mentions are indisputable… turn radius, fuel economy, usability of bed … it feels smaller but is still a pig in size? If it wasn’t for peoples innate nature to buy the latest and greatest, the 2021 beats this truck…. Especially when it comes to pricing… 80-90k cmon only a fool would spend that much
Hope it continues to work for you
At this point in the Tundra game,,,Toyota is living off its laurels and the memory of what was.Thier Ugly,Overpriced,and poorly layer out and conceived,and wait until the turbos start to age.
@@davidparisi4980 That is the great thing about America is you have a choice. I'm sure Ford, Chevy, Dodge would love to have your business. Titan may even be an option for you.
I'll be the 1st to apologize cause I was one of your biggest critics but time has def not been kind to this truck. I'm truly hoping for a course correct for 2024 and beyond cause I just can't do the big 3 and my 2016 is starting to show its age, so it's Yota or nothing.
I get it, why trust an unknown guy on the internet. Heck, it took this long for the automakers to catch u p on this one.
4WD Auto? Lol they mean an AWD truck? Because that is what it is. A plated transfer case. NOT a true chain driven solid hub/sleeve connection. They're a magazine "journalist" that seem to not understand the mechanics/ engineering at all.
This is definitely not an AWD truck. The other manufacturers offer that. Toyota definitely does not.
@@kedrevs4037 seems a lot of peeps like "auto" stuff. I vote against having 4WD auto. That's a system that should not be on a truck.
I can't wait to get my new TUNDRA whenever my 08 is retired. The 2nd gen was critsized for perceived short-comings also. We know how that turned out. If a person listens to all the negatives, they'll never be able to enjoy all of the positives. Don't like what a manufacturer puts out, buy a different brand.
The 2nd gen was criticized for which shortcomings? It was introduced and it took the big 3 a decade to try to come up with competitive capability. Still haven't really done it.
@@kedrevs4037
First-off, mechanically no one cold touch it. People ranted about bed bounce. The paint was supposedly too thin. The frame was supposedly weak because it wasn't boxed. The dashboards were sinking. The camshaft problem was quickly handled, so that was a non-topic. As we speak, Ford is having major warranty claims. Gm can't seem to fix the same nagging problems they've had for years with its trucks. Don't know much about RAM. Toyota handles it business. If it ain't handled yet, I'm sure it will be handled. If a person don't like the vehicle for whatever reason, "Spend your money on something else."
I'm glad I have the '21. It's my 5th Yoda and I'm happy with the truck but disappointed in the build quality. My neighbor has a '23 F150 with some very cool features, especially the Radar in stop and go traffic that smoothly works to zero mph. I realize Ford had a tough year with recalls and I hope they come out of the Covid build days. I never want to work in SF again, but if I did I would trade in my Tundra for a F150.
Interesting
I live in Ontario CANADA our SSM Dealer had 4 new Tundra's with low Mileage 3.5 Turbo Engines were replaced that i know of... I LEASED 2023 Tundra and put about 500 miles on it and had my transfer case and front differential replaced .. It took over 3 months to replace the parts, because the truck model was new .. The Dealer was very helpful and gave me a TUNDRA for a loaner ,also the TOYOTA CORP. gave me a compensation package for the inconvenience ... I've been dealing with Toyota for 40 years ,because i been treated with respect as a costumer very good service.. I said to TOYOTA CORP. that i hope this is a millstone QUALITY MUST BE PRIORITY... They wanted me to purchase it, said NO not yet there is to many moving parts like 2 extra rads , hoses , electric motors , sensors , fuses , relays , wiring , turbo wastegates, twin turbos, ETC like i said just to many thing that can go wrong ... The question is how many Miles will you get before MAJOR things start to FAIL WILL I GET 250,000 MILES BEFORE REPAIRS ... These Trucks are not cheap NOWADAYS ....
Great comment, thank you
You were right on point !!!
I just got a Iforce Max túndra. And hate how they kill the interior space. And gas mileage it’s not better than I expected
The interior space and storage space are both less
good point. Do u know why Toyota QC is failing BC it's made in USA. they just followed American style work.
it's sad.
I don't think that's it, I think it's the new Global platform
None of what Toyota did with this new gen makes sense: They went from having the biggest Double and Crew cabs to shrinking both, they went to a turbo V6 that gets negligibly better gas mileage than the previous gen, their rear bumper is USELESS, the plastic is cheap, the infotainment is spoty, and they're not best in class torque or HP.
So glad I got my '21 Tundra. People buy Toyotas for reliability and simplicity.
That's why I bought mine.
I am in the market for a Pickup, need to do occasional towing of a horse trailer and compact tractor, but will mostly be using it in daily commutes to my office. I have owned and driven Lexus GX and LX SUV's since 2003 and beside a few quirky things, found them to be the most reliable vehicles that I have owned, certainly outperforming my Ford Expedition and GMC Yukon Denali by a long shot. But the new Toyota Tundra simply fails to resonate with me, too many engineering misses, flimsy plastic interior, horrible rear tailgate and bumper relative to all domestic manufacturers who are innovating ergonomics to make bed access an easier task, but not Toyota. The look of the Tundra is also rather polarizing with that front grill. I much prefer the aesthetics of the
out-going model. It looked beefier, more robust to m,. The front seats in the out-going model also felt superior, sturdier, if not also more comfortable. The rear of the 2021 Crew Cab also appears to be more spacious compared to the 2022/23 models. If you are going to eliminate the V8, replacing in with an inherently less reliable V6 Turbo, you better get significantly better gas mileage, and the the Tundra also fails in this department, only netting an improved fuel economy of 2 mpg. You can say, well the 6 cycle turbo produces higher Hp and torque compared to the old, indestructible V8, but does it really matter. Toyota could have modulated the V8, even put a turbo and hybrid system on one and produced more torque than the 6 cylinder engine. Tow with these 6 cylinder engines and watch fuel economy drop to low single digits and I would wager a bet, long-term durability and reliability towing with a 6 would suffer compared to an 8 cylinder engine, simple common sense.
All that !
I found a 2020 Platinum 4x4 with 20870 miles on it. $40k, all maintenance records. Probably my last truck!
@@mitchellbroaddus9120 Damn ! If it has Carfax and scans good I'll offer $41,000 for it 😂 That is a GREAT deal Mitch !!
@@indycharlie lol!
Great review and you are spot on!!
I am a toyota lover. I have a 1997 tacoma with 311,000 miles on it. I had a 2016 tundra 4x4 crewmax that I lost in a divorce. I test drove a 22 tundra, absolutely hated it. Ugly, whistling wind noise from the window, cheap plastic everywhere. I will absolutely not buy one. I will look for a low mileage 18-21 tundra
I own a 2019 CM (24500miles currently) 1794 4x4.. I don't plan on selling it anytime soon.
With that kind of mileage, you're good for a loooonnnng time.
You nail it, ur not a fanboy and you tell it straight… much appreciated, I hope Toyota sees your video
Appreciate the comments
2022 Tundra SR5 with TRD Off Road Package, 50k MSRP, one recall for parking brake, 12mpg towing my 5000 lb Airstream, 14-15 mpg City, 20-23 mpg Highway, 18-19 mpg Average...Super Smooth Powerful Engine and Transmission, Quiet Spacious Cabin, Comfortable Ride, Composite Truck Bed, Army Green....I Love the Truck, will it be as reliable as the V8, only time will tell...but still probably more reliable than Ford, Ram, or Chevy/GMC....
The only thing we have to predict the future is past evidence and this truck’s past evidence ain’t good.
In 2007 the Tundra blew the other trucks away with the way they were built. I wish the 2022 did the same. Not happy with it right now.
That is what I was hoping for too
Toyota's engineers are all trying to fix last years fails to work on the current year. So many people don't want this truck just because of the v6 engine. All the other problems are just adding nails to the coffin. I have 2 tundras, corolla, and about to add another toyota for my daughter. I was hoping for a knock out truck now I will probably look at the HD ram or ford for my next truck.
Hd is the direction that I'll head next time
2022 Tundra Premium the door rubber makes movement rubber noise .
When you leave the back window down it sounds like the entire back is making noise like the bolts are loose as if the bed is moving .
I have Toyota 4 Runner this is my 6 th new purchase never had any issues .My new RX 450 H Lexus never had any issues .
Tundra needs to be examined further to understand and listen to the consumers complaints and address each issue and come up with solutions .
Reputation is very important ones you loose that there goes the name .
I hope they have something better soon.
I'm loving my 2023 Tundra! Don't really care what consumer reports says
Hope it continues to work past 36k miles for you
Let’s fall in suite with the rest of the worlds excuse for stiffing the consumer… Covid😂
Yep, it was all the pandemic's fault.
Meanwhile the guy from Untamed Motors bought a 2023 TRD Pro just after owning the lowest mileage 2018 TRD Pro for like a month.😂🤦
Get what he deserves I guess.
Correction he had a 2019 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro and It’s funny how he criticized the new gen tundras and how he would never buy a black truck and he did both.