C Dorma I don't have the source on me, but I read a study where people who told other people about their plans had a lesser likelihood of actually fulfilling it than telling no one. Another benefit of not telling people your plans.
I had this girl tell me I was dumb for wanting to go into the music industry. Her exact words were "its over saturated and you should get a real job instead" lmao and that was last night. Weird coincidence you post this today. Great video by the way, I ain't letting no girl tell me how to live my life.
Awesome!! Thanks for this!! from 2007-2013 I had stopped doing anything related to music because I was told that it was impossible and to give up of course this made me extreemly depressed.. Than I met a friend who also sang playes guitar and she wanted to perform with me that changed everything!...
question: where is the line drawn from making beats that accommodate the market's internet, to making everything that sounds like every track that is out which in turn make none of your music stand out compared to the rest of beats accommodating the market? does that make sense?
The style of music I love may not be in demand, and that's fine. I mostly make music for myself for now anyway. That said, I don't exactly put myself in a box musically. So my selfishness as you put is really me just trying (key word trying) to be innovative, which could be popular to some, I'd just have to find that pocket of people. No small task.
i believe you when you say that the industry isnt oversaturated but i don't believe in the fact that if you don't serve everyone you're being self i think there is a very fine line between staying true to your heart and staying true to what the world wants you to yield to ..its all about balance
It been saturated because they are workin only with the artists that we know since a years !! They ain't give a chance to the NEW producers and artists, we know " Problem rapper " since a long time and they never asked work with another artist and it became stupid. Also, we know RJ who's from California he is engaged to work with his own friends who are DJ Mustard, YG, etc.... etc... Then we constat that there are too many artists who came up in the game with the help of their friends and not their talents.
on the selfishness part.. i'm a rapper and i only make music to express my feelings.. of course i'd love to make some hits and be known but i will always express deep feelings into my music.. i think that's what's all about after all.. but i'm on a different topic here cause you clearly talk about producers and i agree 100% with what you said..
I guess most people don't want to change their style because either they like it, they follow others , don't know they have more than one style, or etc. I know it's a movement for Producers to follow or to copy the same style. As a music producer I do want to change my style of music because it's boring, most of people's beats sounds the same, and also want to bring something new that no one has ever heard before.
I agree with a lot of this, but I especially agree with the last bit. If you want to make music for a living I would think that you should be willing to explore as much music as possible. I wouldn't use the word "selfish", not that I disagree with your use of the word. But either way it's short sighted. I am going to school for Sound Design and I try to tell people to explore as much music as possible. A lot of people just tell me that its "their style" and they don't want to do anything different. This especially frustrates me when "their style" isn't very well polished to begin with. I get it when people say that they want to make the music they want to make. I have a hard time not thinking that its just an excuse. I have learned to like making just about any kind of music if a situation calls for it. I may not be good at making all of them yet but I enjoy them just the same. I was working on a video project at school that I thought called for a Jazzy song. So I went home and made a 40 second long Jazzy song. I'd never made Jazz before, but it was still a blast! And the song turned out exactly as I wanted it too.
I have been watching your videos since a year... your videos are extremely good.. but I have been searching for video on- What is the biggest lie in EDM industry?... plzz plzz answer
I re-entered the business,its still "who you know".Next its WHO has the money/budget,or knows a rich mommy,daddy,trust fund,or loan officer. its a model based in the same game as opening retail,selling t-shirts,creating buzz,brand.Most of this music biz is based off sharks,tough mental manipulations,sexual or drug 'd out perv's,or greedy executives who flash cars, houses watches,and are FLYING off to europe...while you eat noodles,at the dolla store crying cause you cannot afford the ticket to coachella ps FIND A INVESTOR. ANYWAYs.. LOVE your video dude.
i agree with u game. at the same time im a bit lost because i rememebr before when u spoke on building ur brand u mentioned to should stick 1 particular style or focus on that. i always feel like u should explore different genes,ect.
How do you know what the market is really looking for? Like you said, there are so many genres and styles that people enjoy, but that level of variety can make it hard to see where the main demand is. Also, what if you aren't even really sure what your style is? Any time somebody asks me what my music sounds like, I go blank and don't have a strong comparison to other artists that I can give. I always wanna tell them that nothing really sounds like me, but A) that's probably not true, B) that sounds douchey, and C) it doesn't help anyone
what kills the world is trend followers.But then again,you need to identify needs, but do it in an innovative way..I guess thats how new genres get created.....nice video btw....peace!!!¥
i love music and iam thinking about it all day.. and also listening to it 80%of the day and i also started producing some tracks (would not call it music tho) but iam just too Bad at it xd i know how flstudio works+sylenth etc. at least i know it enough so i could produce a decent song but i fail at melodies.. the most important and creative part so iam thinking about if music is my purpose ..cuz iam not sure sry4english
great video, but i must say that i make music for myself, and for my own joy. I want to put in real feelings in my music and make what kind of music i feel for making at the moment. I dont agree with what you said about selfishness, and i am sure other people feel the same. I am not selfish for making the type of music that I LIKE. Thats just wrong bro. I have learned so much from you and i love what you are doing but the last part got me confused. Hope you understand! LOVE FROM NORWAY
Same.. I mean not just edm (i like it tho) but lets Say youre producing hip hop beats Why do you need to do what every body wants? Sure if 7bil. people want edm and nothing else aaand you absolutely wanna make money with producing music well you gotta Start producing edm but thats not the Case just because edm is popular rn not every one has to produce it
so if my purpose is to make trap music, im selfish if i want to make trap music in a edm bias market (hypothetically)? i just don't know how you will ever make anything inspiring if you're doing something you don't want to do. I agree with everything else you said, though. good vid.
That's when you find ways to incorporate your styles and preferences (trap) into a different style (Edm). I don't think he meant you should make what everyone else wants at that moment in time but rather if you want to see bigger results and reach out to a newer audience to grow your fan base you need to understand that there are trends that come and go and if you only make the same thing then you'll always keep the same fans, something like that. Just always stay true to yourself, your vision and your sound.
Just tell me in how much time you started making out real money post creating your 1st track ... tht would clear up the whole Idea for me ... ( Question open to any of the other Producers as well) !!
Game, I agree with your point, but your math is not accurate. Divide the number of sound cloud users by the number of humans with internet access - which is currently somewhere around 3.2 billion. Which makes the number of creators closer to 1.2%. (Plus there are other vehicles such as youtube and such, but yes, much more difficult to quantify.) You covered the real key to this point a few days ago in another video where you spoke about "individuality". That, plus quality are the factors that overcomes any perceived market saturation. Great video series!
Those are the only measurable numbers we have to guestimate. It's still a fact that 40 million contributors/ 7 billion world population = 0.005 . Even if we increased the contributor count, the percentage is minuscule
It's an extremely subjective argument. While you are correct in your analysis of the producers to world population ratio, you fail to consider the unquestionable truth of the matter: 40,000,000 artists (Souncloud ALONE!) with more than a dozen songs posted each year, versus, 525,600 minutes available in 1 year's time. I see your reasoning, but there is also truth to the matter of saturation of availability. Of course I am on par with your advice that it shouldn't stop you if you really want to pursue this as a career but there is a slightly deeper analysis to be made about market saturation. All the best! Cheers!
Which is why having a signature sound is very important. Even if the whole world sing and ut their own record out, most will sound similar to others but a unique sound will make it through the noise. Period.
7 billion in world population, not mentioning the 60-70 percent of those living in china, india, Africa, and Russia with most of them never touching any sort of production equipment. your comments seem to be good about music but I shall judge your math
I dont agree with the selfishness bit. actually i dont agree with this video at all. if you love making music, then make music for the purpose of making music. I make trap beats but I dont make music to gain profit, I just make music... to make music. when you think of producing music to gain profit you put yourself at a disadvantage imo
Martin Illuminertix Yes "technically", but it's not referred to as EDM. People dance to country music but if you made it entirely out of guitar synths and drum samples would that be EDM too?
negativity is a real killer. Don't tell people your plans. just show them your results
C Dorma I don't have the source on me, but I read a study where people who told other people about their plans had a lesser likelihood of actually fulfilling it than telling no one. Another benefit of not telling people your plans.
I had this girl tell me I was dumb for wanting to go into the music industry. Her exact words were "its over saturated and you should get a real job instead" lmao and that was last night. Weird coincidence you post this today. Great video by the way, I ain't letting no girl tell me how to live my life.
Girls just bring you down lol. Jk. Good I'm glad you rejected that
+GoldHamSam i know what you mean.
+Busy Works Beats .TV
ha
+GoldHamSam Let's collab lol
Robowarrior 217 im down
you really are a very thoughtful producer. Damn I appreciate your videos dude!
Math should be 99.5% lol I was right the first time
+Busy Works Beats .TV Great advice as always salute..
+Busy Works Beats .TV yea i hear and understand what your saying great video man ,..
+Busy Works Beats .TV Should have just gone with 1 in 200 :P
Anyway, nice video, thanks!
Once you get to 99%, the decimal point won't matter haha
it's a thousandth bro. so it's 99.995 to be exact.
The same people will try to poke holes in the numbers or your message.
Quitters never win.
You're the best, Game. Keep it up.
Awesome!! Thanks for this!! from 2007-2013 I had stopped doing anything related to music because I was told that it was impossible and to give up of course this made me extreemly depressed.. Than I met a friend who also sang playes guitar and she wanted to perform with me that changed everything!...
7:40 "You die alone..."
I'm sorry, but that made me laugh. Great video
writing with a mouse? it looks better than my handwriting on paper.
He's probably got some weird writing tablet thing in front of him. If not then :o
He's probably got some weird writing tablet thing in front of him. If not then :o
he does have one of those , he shows it in one of his vids i think
question: where is the line drawn from making beats that accommodate the market's internet, to making everything that sounds like every track that is out which in turn make none of your music stand out compared to the rest of beats accommodating the market?
does that make sense?
+Mike Ez That's what all the pros ask too, it's an ongoing question.
just be original and do you, other wise youll always end up copying. cant garuntee its a hit but you can garuntee its real
The style of music I love may not be in demand, and that's fine. I mostly make music for myself for now anyway. That said, I don't exactly put myself in a box musically. So my selfishness as you put is really me just trying (key word trying) to be innovative, which could be popular to some, I'd just have to find that pocket of people. No small task.
i believe you when you say that the industry isnt oversaturated but i don't believe in the fact that if you don't serve everyone you're being self i think there is a very fine line between staying true to your heart and staying true to what the world wants you to yield to ..its all about balance
Thank you Sir. I really needed this. 2 hdd failures have really broke my drive.
It been saturated because they are workin only with the artists that we know since a years !! They ain't give a chance to the NEW producers and artists, we know " Problem rapper " since a long time and they never asked work with another artist and it became stupid. Also, we know RJ who's from California he is engaged to work with his own friends who are DJ Mustard, YG, etc.... etc... Then we constat that there are too many artists who came up in the game with the help of their friends and not their talents.
Great video!! I been following your videos for the last month and I am truly inspired.
Thank you for making these video's i am learning alot i am really thankful for this youtube channel
I really needed to hear this today, thank you
I love this!! :D I was already planning my Halloween return but now it's gonna be harder to stop after watching this 😅
NEEDED 2 HEAR THIS #MOTIVATION
Good point! Thanks for this insight and wisdom .
on the selfishness part.. i'm a rapper and i only make music to express my feelings.. of course i'd love to make some hits and be known but i will always express deep feelings into my music.. i think that's what's all about after all.. but i'm on a different topic here cause you clearly talk about producers and i agree 100% with what you said..
Oh wow, thank you. I needed this video today man 👍🏼
you r the best mentor always appreciate yor vidoes and keeping the dream up
Never heard about "oversaturated". I just tryna follow my dreams c:
lmao this is like the first time I've seen a cuss word in your video title lol. But nun wrong wit dat tho u gave it to us str8 100
Wow. Straight facts game. This video was perfected.
The tip at 2:06 was perfect
I appreciate your vids, thx my man.
woo.. just when I feel off... thanks bro ... !!!
Absolutely agree with you!! Beautiful video
I guess most people don't want to change their style because either they like it, they follow others , don't know they have more than one style, or etc. I know it's a movement for Producers to follow or to copy the same style. As a music producer I do want to change my style of music because it's boring, most of people's beats sounds the same, and also want to bring something new that no one has ever heard before.
+MGSSnakeEater100 The thing is, it works either way. In this era, people are okay with the same style. Being different is arguably more difficult.
I agree with a lot of this, but I especially agree with the last bit. If you want to make music for a living I would think that you should be willing to explore as much music as possible. I wouldn't use the word "selfish", not that I disagree with your use of the word. But either way it's short sighted. I am going to school for Sound Design and I try to tell people to explore as much music as possible. A lot of people just tell me that its "their style" and they don't want to do anything different. This especially frustrates me when "their style" isn't very well polished to begin with. I get it when people say that they want to make the music they want to make. I have a hard time not thinking that its just an excuse. I have learned to like making just about any kind of music if a situation calls for it. I may not be good at making all of them yet but I enjoy them just the same. I was working on a video project at school that I thought called for a Jazzy song. So I went home and made a 40 second long Jazzy song. I'd never made Jazz before, but it was still a blast! And the song turned out exactly as I wanted it too.
I have been watching your videos since a year... your videos are extremely good.. but I have been searching for video on- What is the biggest lie in EDM industry?... plzz plzz answer
Man I wish we kicked it all the time haha. There is so much I wanna learn from you. Mad Respekk!
props to the video! very informative and inspirational!
I re-entered the business,its still "who you know".Next its WHO has the money/budget,or knows a rich mommy,daddy,trust fund,or loan officer. its a model based in the same game as opening retail,selling t-shirts,creating buzz,brand.Most of this music biz is based off sharks,tough mental manipulations,sexual or drug 'd out perv's,or greedy executives who flash cars, houses watches,and are FLYING off to europe...while you eat noodles,at the dolla store crying cause you cannot afford the ticket to coachella ps FIND A INVESTOR. ANYWAYs.. LOVE your video dude.
How do you find what kind of music people demand the most?
game please talk about being a certain age and rappin. im 43 and feel im at my best
i needed this video. thanks
i agree with u game. at the same time im a bit lost because i rememebr before when u spoke on building ur brand u mentioned to should stick 1 particular style or focus on that. i always feel like u should explore different genes,ect.
True, brand in this case would be things you do constantly. We know will smith to be a great actor, yet he plays many roles
Busy Works Beats .TV aaahhh yezz master yoda, i seeee
Very nice and effective mind set !
Very insightful. Great video
Dude! Game! I love this!!!
You’re inspiring thank you for this
Good talk bro, you are very knowledgeable
wow dude, truly inspiring and informing.
This is so true!
Thank you!
thank you for this video man
Very inspiring!
great job - clear and honest!
We are talking about the INTERNET here. NOTHING is saturated, you can do anything!
How do you know what the market is really looking for? Like you said, there are so many genres and styles that people enjoy, but that level of variety can make it hard to see where the main demand is. Also, what if you aren't even really sure what your style is? Any time somebody asks me what my music sounds like, I go blank and don't have a strong comparison to other artists that I can give. I always wanna tell them that nothing really sounds like me, but A) that's probably not true, B) that sounds douchey, and C) it doesn't help anyone
+TreeTrunkSean just look at what the pop stars are doing. brittney had dubstep at one point when edm hit pop. popular.
game making some game changing statements
You're the man, seriously.
Amen...
what kills the world is trend followers.But then again,you need to identify needs, but do it in an innovative way..I guess thats how new genres get created.....nice video btw....peace!!!¥
AWESOME
i love music and iam thinking about it all day.. and also listening to it 80%of the day
and i also started producing some tracks (would not call it music tho)
but iam just too Bad at it xd
i know how flstudio works+sylenth etc.
at least i know it enough so i could produce a decent song
but i fail at melodies.. the most important and creative part
so iam thinking about if music is my purpose
..cuz iam not sure
sry4english
+Skeepo(MotionDesign) same here. I am currently learning/ trying to learn music theory, it will take some time but its helping with my melodys.
you have a beautiful handwriting.
thank you
excellent video
G eazy me myself and tutorial
brilliant video.
great video, but i must say that i make music for myself, and for my own joy. I want to put in real feelings in my music and make what kind of music i feel for making at the moment. I dont agree with what you said about selfishness, and i am sure other people feel the same. I am not selfish for making the type of music that I LIKE. Thats just wrong bro. I have learned so much from you and i love what you are doing but the last part got me confused. Hope you understand! LOVE FROM NORWAY
hahaha. Word.
I was flowing with this till he said you have to do what everyone else wants... no, I'm not doing freaking EDM.
Same..
I mean not just edm (i like it tho)
but lets Say youre producing hip hop beats
Why do you need to do what every body wants?
Sure if 7bil. people want edm and nothing else aaand you absolutely wanna make money with producing music
well you gotta Start producing edm
but thats not the Case
just because edm is popular rn
not every one has to produce it
EDM/Trap are my rathered styles c:
#notificationgang
half way through I exited the full screen and clicked like, :D
Now I realize how selfish I am
3:55 to 4:50 lol my fav part
so if my purpose is to make trap music, im selfish if i want to make trap music in a edm bias market (hypothetically)? i just don't know how you will ever make anything inspiring if you're doing something you don't want to do. I agree with everything else you said, though. good vid.
That's when you find ways to incorporate your styles and preferences (trap) into a different style (Edm). I don't think he meant you should make what everyone else wants at that moment in time but rather if you want to see bigger results and reach out to a newer audience to grow your fan base you need to understand that there are trends that come and go and if you only make the same thing then you'll always keep the same fans, something like that. Just always stay true to yourself, your vision and your sound.
Sound hit Cloud?
Yo Busy!
Shouldn't it be 99.995 %
Just tell me in how much time you started making out real money post creating your 1st track ... tht would clear up the whole Idea for me ... ( Question open to any of the other Producers as well) !!
+vinit bajpai i dont think youre seeing the point
+Chris Howard different ppl different perspective 😁
0.095
Game, I agree with your point, but your math is not accurate. Divide the number of sound cloud users by the number of humans with internet access - which is currently somewhere around 3.2 billion. Which makes the number of creators closer to 1.2%. (Plus there are other vehicles such as youtube and such, but yes, much more difficult to quantify.)
You covered the real key to this point a few days ago in another video where you spoke about "individuality". That, plus quality are the factors that overcomes any perceived market saturation.
Great video series!
Those are the only measurable numbers we have to guestimate. It's still a fact that 40 million contributors/ 7 billion world population = 0.005 . Even if we increased the contributor count, the percentage is minuscule
Lmao love this guy
Could some of ya please tell what does oversaturated mean?
Over saturated means overly filled by a thing. Over supply, and low demand.
+Busy Works Beats .TV alright, thanks, fam. At first, i thought that it is a track with too much off mid freqs lol
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Is it possible to create trap music with omnisphere and monark? Sorry, if it's the wrong video for this question.
+PoppyMusic yes!!
trap music doesnt need too much. If you have talent for nice rhytms, sounds wont stop you.
It's an extremely subjective argument. While you are correct in your analysis of the producers to world population ratio, you fail to consider the unquestionable truth of the matter: 40,000,000 artists (Souncloud ALONE!) with more than a dozen songs posted each year, versus, 525,600 minutes available in 1 year's time. I see your reasoning, but there is also truth to the matter of saturation of availability. Of course I am on par with your advice that it shouldn't stop you if you really want to pursue this as a career but there is a slightly deeper analysis to be made about market saturation. All the best! Cheers!
I agree, I mentioned before, it's the PLATFORM
Which gets saturated, not people's want/need for your craft
Which is why having a signature sound is very important. Even if the whole world sing and ut their own record out, most will sound similar to others but a unique sound will make it through the noise. Period.
Thats why one time I moved to cringe pop instead of EDM , Excuse !!
boombap lol
jesus, muhamad, ghandi, game !
7 billion in world population, not mentioning the 60-70 percent of those living in china, india, Africa, and Russia with most of them never touching any sort of production equipment. your comments seem to be good about music but I shall judge your math
not to discourage anyone, but hey, be real, don't gotta be a baller producer to have good vibes
you're the best in the Game. see what I did there ? ;D
Your statistics are very incorrect my guy. You're not taking so much into consideration.
I dont agree with the selfishness bit. actually i dont agree with this video at all. if you love making music, then make music for the purpose of making music. I make trap beats but I dont make music to gain profit, I just make music... to make music. when you think of producing music to gain profit you put yourself at a disadvantage imo
Trap is technically EDM 😂
Depends on what kind of "trap" you're talking about
+ELXR like DJ Snake's get low
+Martin Illuminertix but future's music is also trap and that's nothing like get low.
+Adis Music if the music is electronically based and you dance to it, it is technically Electronic Dance Music (EDM)
Martin Illuminertix Yes "technically", but it's not referred to as EDM. People dance to country music but if you made it entirely out of guitar synths and drum samples would that be EDM too?
7 Billion?XD
i needed this video. thanks