With all the advanced sonar on the boat, they'd have seen the tanker literally miles away. One guy not hearing sufficiently well would not lead to such a situation.
I'm reminded of a _Get Smart_ episode in which 86 and 99 are captured and taken on a KAOS submarine. Siegfried the KAOS boss is at the periscope, doing a full sweep. "Nothing... nothing... nothing... six destroyers... SIX DESTROYERS?!"
@@dritzzdarkwood4727 true, but why didn't the captain do both? Dive and sharp course change away from the tanker to buy more time for the dive to clear?
There was a time when a Russian submarine almost surfaced right under the carrier USS America and then was the time the USS Greenville destroyed a Japanese fishing vessel when it surfaced. And the time the USS Connecticut hit an underground mountain and before that it hit a pier. Someone wasn't pay attention.
This was a remarkably good series. I myself am an American Army veteran, but I live in an area with a large submarine veteran community. All the 'bubbleheads' I talked to about this show were deeply impressed. [don't worry about the 'bubblehead' comment. I'm well aware that, to bubbleheads, I'm a 'non-qual treadhead' 🤣] BTW, they also told me that an incident like this would leave a VERY black mark in a CO's book.... and they wouldn't give two figs for the sonarman's promotion prospects either.
Tanker: noisiest object in the ocean British submarine: designed to hear soviet submarines from 100 miles away. =sigh= This was a British submarine cop drama VIGIL which , apart from the crazily spacious submarine sets, was a great watch.
Or why not just turn to the left or right????? Or turn to the left or right while diving? but like other's said before me, how did they not hear the tanker from miles away?
Lol this isn't WW2, a tanker going 15 knts would be detected miles away and they would have easily missed it if they just turned full left or right rudder and ahead full. 😂
Ok - this was POORLY written: 1) The draft of even the LARGEST tankers is less than 30 meters - most are 20-28 meters. The submarine does not need to do some crazy crash dive maneuver to drop 30 meters. They could drop 40 meters, maybe 50 and be clear. Now - in fairness the TURBULENCE of the props of a supertanker would not be fun ..... 2) Modern submarines have SONAR - very very sensitive passive sonar that can not only tell that "something is there" but, by acoustic signature can tell a whale from a trawler to a naval vessel to a tanker. Look - I love a good sub drama, but did ANYONE consult someone who knows about subs?
There was a time when a Russian submarine almost surfaced right under the carrier USS America and then was the time the USS Greenville destroyed a Japanese fishing vessel when it surfaced. And the time the USS Connecticut hit an underground mountain and, a year before that, it hit a pier. One would think that it isn't possible, but there have been many instances when it has happened.
@@gbonkers666 I'd need to hear the details on those stories - but 1) Greenville - if that vessel was sitting w/out the engine running .... 2) Connecticut - both of those are hitting SILENT object. None of that addresses the depth issue.
Try watching the show before commenting, there was a very good reason why the tanker wasn't heard by anyone on the sub but I know you were just too giddy with excitement to join the conversation with zero context so I'll let it go this time.
"You'll let it go" - gee, how magnanimous and said out of false sense of knowledge and arrogance. No - as a military man w/over 25 years of service - and knowing my "bubbleheads" (submariners) you have not one clue of what you speak. The sonar operators - and there are often 2 working at any given time - are CONTINUOUSLY monitoring the sonar. Even if one guy is watching "this target" or such - there is something called the "Waterfall display" - regardless if someone is LOOKING at it at that moment, or for 10 minutes, it's showing and recording the entire sonar picture for MILES around the sub. A tanker that size would be a MASSIVE hit on the sonar - it's not just "he looked away" for 1 min or 5 min - the waterfall display would have alerted - the VISUAL on the display would have been showing it - there's literally a RED FLASHING LIGHT as any new contact appears ... Don't talk with supposed authority on things you clearly know nothing about.
@@krashd thinking about it now they probably turn it off also being British the crew needs some transgenders dwarfs couple cripples or it just does not look real
not watched the series but no way they dont know about the tanker from 20k yards minimum with passive systems on a modern sub so i dont think i want to watch it
Pitiful is having such little experience of TV or movies that whenever you see absolutely anything with a submarine in it you immediately think "Das boot!".
With all the advanced sonar on the boat, they'd have seen the tanker literally miles away. One guy not hearing sufficiently well would not lead to such a situation.
Of course! Alarms would have gone off left, right and centre.
You need to watch the whole series to understand the dynamics.
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I'm reminded of a _Get Smart_ episode in which 86 and 99 are captured and taken on a KAOS submarine. Siegfried the KAOS boss is at the periscope, doing a full sweep.
"Nothing... nothing... nothing... six destroyers... SIX DESTROYERS?!"
That is way too spacious to be a submarine, even a boomer.
That was my very first thought as well. 😅
That is one spacious submarine.
Why don't just turn left or right instead?
A sub can dive faster than it can turn.
@@dritzzdarkwood4727 true, but why didn't the captain do both? Dive and sharp course change away from the tanker to buy more time for the dive to clear?
@dritzzdarkwood4727 you only have to dive another 15 feet 😂
Was the sub in a hot tub with all the jets going? There’s just no way it wouldn’t hear that tanker
There was a time when a Russian submarine almost surfaced right under the carrier USS America and then was the time the USS Greenville destroyed a Japanese fishing vessel when it surfaced. And the time the USS Connecticut hit an underground mountain and before that it hit a pier. Someone wasn't pay attention.
This was a remarkably good series.
I myself am an American Army veteran, but I live in an area with a large submarine veteran community. All the 'bubbleheads' I talked to about this show were deeply impressed.
[don't worry about the 'bubblehead' comment. I'm well aware that, to bubbleheads, I'm a 'non-qual treadhead' 🤣]
BTW, they also told me that an incident like this would leave a VERY black mark in a CO's book.... and they wouldn't give two figs for the sonarman's promotion prospects either.
You must live in Groton.
@@sebastiannegron79 Nope. Other side of the country. Puget Sound, Washington. LOTS of radioactive bubbleheads out here 😁
@@carlhicksjr8401 the boomer base (boomer = ballistic missile sub) in Bangor
@@sebastiannegron79 Yep. But there's several SSNs out here too. Our area sort-of splits Submarines Pacific with Pearl Harbor.
@@carlhicksjr8401 I was on a SSN out of Norfolk and about 3 years after I left it got reassigned to Pearl Harbor.
Tanker: noisiest object in the ocean
British submarine: designed to hear soviet submarines from 100 miles away.
=sigh=
This was a British submarine cop drama VIGIL which , apart from the crazily spacious submarine sets, was a great watch.
Or why not just turn to the left or right????? Or turn to the left or right while diving? but like other's said before me, how did they not hear the tanker from miles away?
1:43 - how can you not hear a tanker is exactly what I thought.
Spoiler: the person in question did NOT fail to hear it.
worst sub scene ever filmed??
What B movie is this?
Well that was silly in the extreme. Impossible scenario given all the detection gear that a sub has.
What part of dive and turn doesn't compute. If you turn you present a smaller target.
Excellent scene!!
Why be snooping underwater in a shipping lane?
They were getting away from enemy submarine in the region.
Movie name??
It’s a TV series of BBC One. Vigil
Where can I get the full movie
BBC iPlayer. Vigil TV series
I'm sure the black guy playing the captain used to be in "CASUALTY".
Why not change direction and steer clear
Speed of the submarine makes it harder to turn at low angles.
Lol this isn't WW2, a tanker going 15 knts would be detected miles away and they would have easily missed it if they just turned full left or right rudder and ahead full. 😂
What is the movie name
It's a BBC short drama series named 'Vigil'
Gray Lady Down in the Royal Navy
I'll have the Swiss.
Soo much drama , soo much fantasy
What do you expect with a black man in charge of the boat
@@Hot1765 how much racist can you be?
Ok - this was POORLY written:
1) The draft of even the LARGEST tankers is less than 30 meters - most are 20-28 meters. The submarine does not need to do some crazy crash dive maneuver to drop 30 meters. They could drop 40 meters, maybe 50 and be clear. Now - in fairness the TURBULENCE of the props of a supertanker would not be fun .....
2) Modern submarines have SONAR - very very sensitive passive sonar that can not only tell that "something is there" but, by acoustic signature can tell a whale from a trawler to a naval vessel to a tanker.
Look - I love a good sub drama, but did ANYONE consult someone who knows about subs?
There was a time when a Russian submarine almost surfaced right under the carrier USS America and then was the time the USS Greenville destroyed a Japanese fishing vessel when it surfaced. And the time the USS Connecticut hit an underground mountain and, a year before that, it hit a pier. One would think that it isn't possible, but there have been many instances when it has happened.
@@gbonkers666
I'd need to hear the details on those stories - but
1) Greenville - if that vessel was sitting w/out the engine running ....
2) Connecticut - both of those are hitting SILENT object.
None of that addresses the depth issue.
Try watching the show before commenting, there was a very good reason why the tanker wasn't heard by anyone on the sub but I know you were just too giddy with excitement to join the conversation with zero context so I'll let it go this time.
"You'll let it go" - gee, how magnanimous and said out of false sense of knowledge and arrogance.
No - as a military man w/over 25 years of service - and knowing my "bubbleheads" (submariners) you have not one clue of what you speak.
The sonar operators - and there are often 2 working at any given time - are CONTINUOUSLY monitoring the sonar.
Even if one guy is watching "this target" or such - there is something called the "Waterfall display" - regardless if someone is LOOKING at it at that moment, or for 10 minutes, it's showing and recording the entire sonar picture for MILES around the sub.
A tanker that size would be a MASSIVE hit on the sonar - it's not just "he looked away" for 1 min or 5 min - the waterfall display would have alerted - the VISUAL on the display would have been showing it - there's literally a RED FLASHING LIGHT as any new contact appears ...
Don't talk with supposed authority on things you clearly know nothing about.
ais would have broadcasted the ships location name etc along with every other ship in the area
If it had not been sabotaged.
@@krashd thinking about it now they probably turn it off also being British the crew needs some transgenders dwarfs couple cripples or it just does not look real
not watched the series but no way they dont know about the tanker from 20k yards minimum with passive systems on a modern sub so i dont think i want to watch it
Eeh, I'd chock it up to human error. Not to mention that weirder things have happened.
Spoiler: the sensors did not, in fact, fail to hear it. There's some important context not in the clip.
@@locarno24 People don't want context these days, learning context takes up valuable time where they could be whining.
Lmao... Stolen from Das Boot. Pitiful
Pitiful is having such little experience of TV or movies that whenever you see absolutely anything with a submarine in it you immediately think "Das boot!".