I think some concerts goer don't like this rendition because they are used to listen famous pianists such as Rubinstein, Arrau, Richter and dislike the ones that have courage to play in a different way from the latters. The interpretation of mr Pogorelich is the best I ever heared.
If you look to the score you will see that this is not Beethoven/ details are very important to understand the composer / This is some Pogorelich music in Beethovens vibe..
I went to this music being played in a concert in Eindhoven where he performed live for the first time after his wife had passed on. The performance was even more intense, you can believe. I never heard this peace with so much emotional effect.It was a summer day and everybody was so full of with end energy, but that changed after only a few notes. everybody was in one second dead silent. I tried to understand this piece befeore the concert by listening to a mere 8 different performances but I first was moved by this music during this live concert. It is still my most beautiful live concert I ever experienced. This performance maybe 20 years before has a lot of what happened in Eindhoven. after the concert people reacted the same way what I am reading here. "It was so slow!" I believe for sure that If you do not understand that this is far from slow you will not ever understand what this music really is about. I realized Ivo performed it only for me.
I had a similar experience when he celebrated the sonata in Hamburg. The silent notes in the second movement sounded like they were coming from another planet. Pure love and understanding, Ludwig must have been so proud listening from above.
A magisterial performance of one of the most sublime sonatas ever written for piano. Pogorelich became famous for Chopin but his Beethoven captures the essence of Sturm und Drang combined with 18th century classicism -- everything Beethoven represents. His power of concentration is stunning.
The entire sonata is just astounding under his hands but the Arietta is so captivating that I can’t avoid tears by the end. The way Beethoven brings back that melody with the difficult trills in the upper register is simply so perfect and emotionally satisfying that I can’t imagine a more perfect moment in the piano literature. It is just one of the greatest moments anyone sensitive to musical build and release can experience. This performance is my “go-to” interpretation when I need it. Just magical.
Above all, Pogorelich expressed the sense of 'solitude' excellently imo. I think silence and solitude are very important characteristic of this sonata, which quite many other pianists fail to express well.
Refreshing, brilliant, precise, clean, unique, exotic, ethereal. I listen to Pogorelich because I know he's going to bring a remarkable perspective highlighting musical ideas in an entirely new way. It's almost like hearing the music for the first time.
Che magnifica espressività, controllo della tastiera tecnicamente straordinario, una naturalezza interpretativa sorprendente, considerata la giovane età in cui Pogorelich ha registrato questo capolavoro beethoveniano. Di riferimento!
Même si on peut émettre certaines réserves sur le tempo assez lent du premier mouvement, cette interprétation est vraiment de très grande qualité : sensible, intimiste, bouleversante...
Phenomenal. We can have no idea what Beethoven was thinking when he wrote this but all of the angst, idiosyncrasy and torment that must have been going though his deaf head seems to come out in this interpretation more than any I have ever heard. In the absence of a Gilels rendition (because Gilels rendered, he didn't interpret, and I have no doubt that his offering would be very different but no less valued) this is surely the greatest performance ever recorded of this greatest piano sonata!
Pogorelich does an absolutely outstanding job on his interpretation. Slow...deep...dark...introspective. I have this recording on LP, and his pace on the recording is a little faster, but that does not in any way detract from the depth, darkness, and introspection. Brilliantly done.
Reflecting overnight - I don't restrict myself to one brand of champagne, and similarly I have several different recordings of most of my favorite pieces. I think it is wrong to imagine that any one person has the one "perfect" performance, the one "perfect" record. And it is fundamental to Beethoven that there are secondary themes woven through his music. Pogorelich brings them out - many other artists blur or bury them - everyone can choose which they prefer, but this one rates very highly.
"The right way" è pura illusione. Tu non sai qual è il modo giusto, non lo so io e non lo sa nessun altro eccetto Ludwig van Beethoven. Una cosa è lo spartito, un' altra è il brano. Secondo me, questa coraggiosa interpretazione, è geniale e sublime. E Pogorelich è un artista immenso.
Vedo che questa interpretazione della 111 da parte di Pogorelich ha suscitato anche commenti molto negativi,soprattutto nella scelta del tempo così lento.Io credo di avere ,da Michelangeli a Fischer,insomma almeno una trentina di interpretazioni di questa sconvolgente sonata,dei più grandi. Delle interpretazioni moderne mi ha molto colpito Trifonov,trascinante e commovente.Aver scelto da parte di Pogorelich un tempo così lento, distribuito praticamente per tutta la sonata,è stato un gesto artistico molto coraggioso.Bisogna avere una tenuta espressiva straordinaria per portarlo in fondo come ha fatto lui.Certo è tutto molto diverso da come si era abituati a sentire la 111. Però quanti particolari meravigliosi abbiamo gustato.piccoli passaggi che in certe interpretazioni mirabolanti per forza si perdevano.Anche il famoso preannuncio del jazz,che anche i più grandi hanno reso anche troppo ritmato,qui invece acquista una bellissima classicità.Ne viene fuori una 111 estatica,direi sconvolge
Every time hearing this piece it brings memories of Mann's Faustus. And not only that but seeing Mann himself listening to some eccentric lecturer in the University, both Mann and the lecturer diving into Beethoven's mind - maybe even too deep... That's what art is. Heck, thas what's life is all about.
Pogorelich è immenso su tanti repertori, russo e francese in primis, con spazi, tempi, ritmi e timbri completamente diversi dal baluardo della classicità tedesca. Interpretazione impeccabile, l'originalità non mi spaventa, ma i silenzi e l'allontanamento dalla marcature dello spartito annullano i punti di tensione e il naturale sciogliersi di una variazione nell'altra.
Splendida questa interpretazione di Pogorelich. La forza espressiva, la tensione narrativa mediata da un timbro asciutto e riflessivo rendono la qualità complessiva molto alta. Bravissimo!!!
pogorelich always adds a touch of himself in his interpretation of music; here he impresses one with his understanding of the depth of this masterpiece and his disciplined execution of it; a joy to listen to and watch; thank you for the upload
With masterful technique and Deep Study of the score, Ivo brings out the very soul of Beethoven, his wrestling with human terror and anguish to gain true , noble humanity
the way he bring out the sound is unbeliveble. no one else can walk this way. it's his own way. very deep soul and emotions, words cannot describe ..... thanks Ivo and peterpels for sharing this jewel. Paolo from Italia
I hear Beethoven HIMSELF playing through the mind and heart and fingers of Pogorelich ! We are so unaware of the spiritual world all around us that we dont see these great Artists like Beethoven being a part of our sentient lives even though we cannot SEE but we can INTUIT their/ his Presence. Beethoven is drawn into this performance of his greaT sonata himself actually on the spiritual level communicating his own creative vision of his work using the body and skill of Ivo Pogorelich.
I know Arrau is the reference for this work but for me this performance by Pogorelić is the most perfect, the timing just right, the tempos too. I get goosebumps every time I listen to it.
+Brian Gill I agree completely. Also I used to think Arrau as the reference point for this sonata, but I have to say that Pogorelich has passed. Without words!
Pogorelich is very unique and delicate in every note, this is a genius and I revere this fine gentleman among other extraordinary talents in the piano world. op 111 is Beethoven's finest sonata.
I absolutely love this rendition and would put it in the top 20 that I have heard. One has to note that this is one of the hardest to interpret, if you listen to a discussion with Zimmerman he states that to date he does not have the guts to attempt a proper interpretation of this sonata- one can only note the difficulties that he can see that we mere mortals have missed in our listening,.
I have been absorbed by the piano for nearly 70 years and I've NEVER heard anyone suggest that a particular piece of music must be played in less than 33 minutes. Music is art - 33 minutes is an horological measurement - yardsticks are no basis for the evaluation of art. Earlier recordings didn't allow the pianist freedom of expression - it was a case of finish in X minutes or you won't fit on one side of the disc - listening to such performances was a kind of mental and emotional torture.
good point, only occasionally mentioned in all the YT discussions when comparing earlier vs more contemporary performances on record. Ivo is IVO. Ludvig was Ludvig, It is rare that two artists will ever think or perform exactly alike. Ivo has had the opportunity to think about and interpret Ludvig, but Beethoven had not the chance to do likewise in regards to what would please Pogorelich.
Je suis subjugué par cette interprétation . Pour moi celle de M.Pollini était la meilleure... Mais Pogorelich prend son temps, il vit intensément ce qu'il joue, on comprend tout et les constrastes sont saisissants. merci pour ce partage!
i think he approaches the trills in the last movement perfectly. when they are played perfectly evenly, they create a very chilling and deeply moving effect. tear-inducing
Thank you so much for posting this. I've loved this piece for years and have never seen Pogorelich play it, although I've had the recording for a long time.
Music is fortunately not a race. we have time to hear the subtleties especially in fugal passages. The rallentendos give much meaning to the work. This interpretation does not act here like a machine. Great !
Oh, how deep meanings! To interpret this music with the safety which makes Pogorelich you must have a very rich inner life, prolonged through the time ... The clearly azure of the sky, I think, was opened only once, when the melody is fully translated into reality. However, it's music that fills the soul and accompanying it, is the key that opens the heart of Beethoven ...Dear Peterspel2: Very well that was the sound! Thank you with all my heart. .
Thank you! peterpels2 0:00 1. Maestoso - Allegro con brio ed appassionato 11:30 II. Arietta. Adagio I like the 2nd movement and sleep at night listening to the Pogorelich Beethoven Klaviersonate c-Moll op. 111 CD.
Amir Motahari "he completely fucked up the second movement" that's the most unprofessional thing I've heard and probably you know nothing about classical piano music
Christian Goergen aka AstraOovier I believe if you had listened enough recording by many other pianist and ponder music seriously, you will stand the same view with the comment.
@Dinkelstein Kerman who said it is slow ? It is C minor. Just listen to the sound of it. It is like darkness and misery of all the world concentrated to the one piano sound. Are you deaf or what ?
there is something special about these late Beethoven sonatas...they are darker and more difficult. both to play and to understand. more complicated. but ever so brilliant.
He was completely deaf by then wasnt he? His whole mind and time orientation must have been altered somewhat, not to mention any general changes that would effect a powerful genius ever maturing and aging. I believe these late works are a very intimate look into the man Beethoven, as the God Beethoven was being diminished by his very human life.
that's also because by the end of his life he wanted to write only music and did not care how difficult it was going to be on the piano...he was totally deaf when he wrote 111 but he obviously heard it in his head. this is also why it's very demanding for women to play , almost impossible...need very wide and strong hands.
I don't mind that he plays slower. I am not trained in music so when a pianist plays a piece slower and then I go back to my favorite version (In this case Brendel's) it helps me understand and appreciate it more. I think that some people can be snobs about their favorites, listening to how different pianist interpret a piece is fun. Music should unite us not divide us.
I wonder when this was recorded. He's still fairly young here and yet his reading is as mature as it is beautiful. This is a wonderful performance. I'm so glad we have it.
Beethoven übertrifft sich hier selbst und das ist einfach schön. Chopin wird ihn - künstlerisch - bald darauf beerben und genau dort weitermachen, wo jener schließlich zum Abschluss kommen musste. Aber es ist wunderbar, dass es Beethoven noch vergönnt war, bis dorthin vorzudringen. Pogorelich spielt hier langsamer, kontrollierter, vielleicht auch weniger leidenschaftlich, dafür aber deutlich gemessener und vielleicht sogar herrlicher als auf der Schallplattenaufnahme der Deutschen Grammophon von 1982. Es ist eine sehr schöne Aufnahme und sie wird dem Stück absolut gerecht. Wie sich der Charakter eines Pianisten ändern kann, wird hier sichtbar, und das darf sein. Es lebe die Kunst :-)
It's really interesting to see how each pianist takes it to another place. His interpetation is much softer and bright than usual. Not my taste but still it's awsome
Si algún anunciante cree que interrumpir una obra de arte para hacer valer su mensaje le va reportar beneficios.......mas bien yo los señalo como nefastos y denosto completamente sus productos. Si al menos hicieran valer sus mensajes al final de un movimiento....lo aceptaría.
It is very impressive how precise Pogorelich plays this masterpiece. The second set in the beginning a bit to slow for my liking but overall a very impressive and perfect performance. Despite the slowness in the first part of the second part, I prefer Beethoven to be performed not too fast and not too furious - that was not possible in the days of Beethoven because the grand pianos did not allow it. I like that performance a lot.
You just do not know that Pogorelich has his own tempo! He always had! He is a completely unique pianist in every sense,but be careful in the way you judge his performance, because HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING, it is not just a sloppy amateur confounded with the original partiture! And BTH, Backhaus was magnificent,and I regret to say this, but please, your commentary sounds a little moronic...He was certainly not the "only one that played this sonata in the right way"!!!!!
I've heard that Beethoven and his contemporaries played music at a very fast tempo; that was apparently the custom then. Faster tempos were also used in performances of his symphonies. But Beethoven's music seems to gain greater profundity with the slower tempos. For example, check out the 1960's recordings of Klemperer conducting the 3rd & 7th; these are among my favorites. As for Sonata 32, my favorite recording (that I've heard) is Sviatoslav Richter performing before a live audience in Moscow, 12 Jan. 1975 -- a very profound performance.
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I think some concerts goer don't like this rendition because they are used to listen famous pianists such as Rubinstein, Arrau, Richter and dislike the ones that have courage to play in a different way from the latters. The interpretation of mr Pogorelich is the best I ever heared.
Maybe that is the reason for Pogorelich being a "controversial" pianist. I never understood why. I can only hear a very deep and great artist.
If you look to the score you will see that this is not Beethoven/ details are very important to understand the composer / This is some Pogorelich music in Beethovens vibe..
This is a profound reading of Beethoven's final piano sonata.
Powerful and so personal. Totally communicates with the spirit of this genius.
I went to this music being played in a concert in Eindhoven where he performed live for the first time after his wife had passed on. The performance was even more intense, you can believe. I never heard this peace with so much emotional effect.It was a summer day and everybody was so full of with end energy, but that changed after only a few notes. everybody was in one second dead silent. I tried to understand this piece befeore the concert by listening to a mere 8 different performances but I first was moved by this music during this live concert. It is still my most beautiful live concert I ever experienced. This performance maybe 20 years before has a lot of what happened in Eindhoven. after the concert people reacted the same way what I am reading here. "It was so slow!" I believe for sure that If you do not understand that this is far from slow you will not ever understand what this music really is about. I realized Ivo performed it only for me.
I had a similar experience when he celebrated the sonata in Hamburg. The silent notes in the second movement sounded like they were coming from another planet. Pure love and understanding, Ludwig must have been so proud listening from above.
A magisterial performance of one of the most sublime sonatas ever written for piano. Pogorelich became famous for Chopin but his Beethoven captures the essence of Sturm und Drang combined with 18th century classicism -- everything Beethoven represents. His power of concentration is stunning.
The greatest pianist playing Beethoven's greatest piano sonata. We never heard Beethoven, Chopin, or Liszt play the piano, but we had Pogorelich!
Il genio di Beethoven e l'arte di Pogorelić si fondono per farci sognare.
I hear more music in this interpretation than I have from any other pianist. And soul !!!
The entire sonata is just astounding under his hands but the Arietta is so captivating that I can’t avoid tears by the end. The way Beethoven brings back that melody with the difficult trills in the upper register is simply so perfect and emotionally satisfying that I can’t imagine a more perfect moment in the piano literature. It is just one of the greatest moments anyone sensitive to musical build and release can experience. This performance is my “go-to” interpretation when I need it. Just magical.
Да, да!
Uncanny genius- Beethoven and Pogorelich alike.
I stood up at my home and gave a standing ovation following the resolution of the piece. Bravo!
Above all, Pogorelich expressed the sense of 'solitude' excellently imo. I think silence and solitude are very important characteristic of this sonata, which quite many other pianists fail to express well.
This is what so called perfect.
Refreshing, brilliant, precise, clean, unique, exotic, ethereal. I listen to Pogorelich because I know he's going to bring a remarkable perspective highlighting musical ideas in an entirely new way. It's almost like hearing the music for the first time.
Pogorelich ist ein großer Künstler und ein wunderbarer, von großem Ernst durchdrungener Beethoven-Interpret. Ich neige mein Haupt...
I like that he doesn't rush the first movement. It is articulated, and not a mush of notes.
I agree, you can take your time to play this sonata.
Bravo, Maestro Ivo Pogorelic !
Che magnifica espressività, controllo della tastiera tecnicamente straordinario, una naturalezza interpretativa sorprendente, considerata la giovane età in cui Pogorelich ha registrato questo capolavoro beethoveniano. Di riferimento!
Même si on peut émettre certaines réserves sur le tempo assez lent du premier mouvement, cette interprétation est vraiment de très grande qualité : sensible, intimiste, bouleversante...
Phenomenal. We can have no idea what Beethoven was thinking when he wrote this but all of the angst, idiosyncrasy and torment that must have been going though his deaf head seems to come out in this interpretation more than any I have ever heard. In the absence of a Gilels rendition (because Gilels rendered, he didn't interpret, and I have no doubt that his offering would be very different but no less valued) this is surely the greatest performance ever recorded of this greatest piano sonata!
A Genius at work! Everything is well thought of, he has a deep understanding of music and his rendition is impecable!
Probably the best performance I’ve come across so far, to rival even Kissin, Barenboim and Ashkenazi...
Pogorelich does an absolutely outstanding job on his interpretation. Slow...deep...dark...introspective. I have this recording on LP, and his pace on the recording is a little faster, but that does not in any way detract from the depth, darkness, and introspection. Brilliantly done.
How Ivo Pogorelich succeeds in combining loveliness with powerfulness is the superb mystery for me.
You should hear his 2nd Chopin Ballade. at the height of his powers. That moment can show him at the extremes
Reflecting overnight - I don't restrict myself to one brand of champagne, and similarly I have several different recordings of most of my favorite pieces. I think it is wrong to imagine that any one person has the one "perfect" performance, the one "perfect" record.
And it is fundamental to Beethoven that there are secondary themes woven through his music. Pogorelich brings them out - many other artists blur or bury them - everyone can choose which they prefer, but this one rates very highly.
Best performance of 111 i've ever heard. Lights and clouds are mixer in a superb way..... Every second Is a psychedelic Path to the infinity
"The right way" è pura illusione. Tu non sai qual è il modo giusto, non lo so io e non lo sa nessun altro eccetto Ludwig van Beethoven. Una cosa è lo spartito, un' altra è il brano. Secondo me, questa coraggiosa interpretazione, è geniale e sublime. E Pogorelich è un artista immenso.
... follie ! ... nemmeno Beethoven "lo" "sa" ...
Vedo che questa interpretazione della 111 da parte di Pogorelich ha suscitato anche commenti molto negativi,soprattutto nella scelta del tempo così lento.Io credo di avere ,da Michelangeli a Fischer,insomma almeno una trentina di interpretazioni di questa sconvolgente sonata,dei più grandi. Delle interpretazioni moderne mi ha molto colpito Trifonov,trascinante e commovente.Aver scelto da parte di Pogorelich un tempo così lento, distribuito praticamente per tutta la sonata,è stato un gesto artistico molto coraggioso.Bisogna avere una tenuta espressiva straordinaria per portarlo in fondo come ha fatto lui.Certo è tutto molto diverso da come si era abituati a sentire la 111. Però quanti particolari meravigliosi abbiamo gustato.piccoli passaggi che in certe interpretazioni mirabolanti per forza si perdevano.Anche il famoso preannuncio del jazz,che anche i più grandi hanno reso anche troppo ritmato,qui invece acquista una bellissima classicità.Ne viene fuori una 111 estatica,direi sconvolge
Everything he touches becomes what it actually is.
Great characterisation!
Simply divine renditions of a divine piece -- can't express my admiration with adequate words so I stop here. Thank you for posting !
Every time hearing this piece it brings memories of Mann's Faustus. And not only that but seeing Mann himself listening to some eccentric lecturer in the University, both Mann and the lecturer diving into Beethoven's mind - maybe even too deep...
That's what art is. Heck, thas what's life is all about.
Love the analysis of opus 111 in Thomas Mann's Faustus quite brilliant
I fully agree with you. It is a perfect performance!
Pogorelich è immenso su tanti repertori, russo e francese in primis, con spazi, tempi, ritmi e timbri completamente diversi dal baluardo della classicità tedesca. Interpretazione impeccabile, l'originalità non mi spaventa, ma i silenzi e l'allontanamento dalla marcature dello spartito annullano i punti di tensione e il naturale sciogliersi di una variazione nell'altra.
The best performance ever of this Klaviersonate.
Splendida questa interpretazione di Pogorelich. La forza espressiva, la tensione narrativa mediata da un timbro asciutto e riflessivo rendono la qualità complessiva molto alta. Bravissimo!!!
pogorelich always adds a touch of himself in his interpretation of music; here he impresses one with his understanding of the depth of this masterpiece and his disciplined execution of it; a joy to listen to and watch; thank you for the upload
With masterful technique and Deep Study of the score, Ivo brings out the very soul of Beethoven, his wrestling with human terror and anguish to gain true , noble humanity
A peak in the history of musical composition and a peak in the interpretation of this masterpiece
Yes really is
the way he bring out the sound is unbeliveble. no one else can walk this way. it's his own way. very deep soul and emotions, words cannot describe ..... thanks Ivo and peterpels for sharing this jewel. Paolo from Italia
Très grande maîtrise dans ce jeu tout en nuances d'Ivo Pogorelich...Changements de rythme...,douceur et passion...C'est un pur bonheur...
Jedinstvena izvedba jednog genija.Bravo!😁😁😁
I hear Beethoven HIMSELF playing through the mind and heart and fingers of Pogorelich !
We are so unaware of the spiritual world all around us that we dont see these great Artists like Beethoven being a part of our sentient lives even though we cannot SEE but we can INTUIT their/ his Presence.
Beethoven is drawn into this performance of his greaT sonata
himself actually on the spiritual level communicating his own creative vision of his work using the body and skill of Ivo Pogorelich.
Here for Beethoven's 250th birthday. He sure lived and will live long after his death through his music.
Outclasses any other performance I have listened. Pogo playing seriously is unbeatable, and that is a fact!
Yes, he is a genius
I know Arrau is the reference for this work but for me this performance by Pogorelić is the most perfect, the timing just right, the tempos too. I get goosebumps every time I listen to it.
+Brian Gill That is Right, but the second recording of Stephen Kovacevich (EMI) is awesome!
+Brian Gill I agree completely. Also I used to think Arrau as the reference point for this sonata, but I have to say that Pogorelich has passed. Without words!
There is no "reference" in my opinion.
@@Opoczynski Exactly, only THE MUSIC is the reference ♥
Arrau is just a famous name.
Pogorelich is very unique and delicate in every note, this is a genius and I revere this fine gentleman among other extraordinary talents in the piano world. op 111 is Beethoven's finest sonata.
I absolutely love this rendition and would put it in the top 20 that I have heard. One has to note that this is one of the hardest to interpret, if you listen to a discussion with Zimmerman he states that to date he does not have the guts to attempt a proper interpretation of this sonata- one can only note the difficulties that he can see that we mere mortals have missed in our listening,.
This is a very intelligent interpretation of Beethoven.
I have been absorbed by the piano for nearly 70 years and I've NEVER heard anyone suggest that a particular piece of music must be played in less than 33 minutes. Music is art - 33 minutes is an horological measurement - yardsticks are no basis for the evaluation of art.
Earlier recordings didn't allow the pianist freedom of expression - it was a case of finish in X minutes or you won't fit on one side of the disc - listening to such performances was a kind of mental and emotional torture.
Bravo!
good point, only occasionally mentioned in all the YT discussions when comparing earlier vs more contemporary performances on record. Ivo is IVO. Ludvig was Ludvig, It is rare that two artists will ever think or perform exactly alike. Ivo has had the opportunity to think about and interpret Ludvig, but Beethoven had not the chance to do likewise in regards to what would please Pogorelich.
Très belle interprétation d'Ivo Pogorelich; pleine de finesse, d'alan , de poésie de brio...sans doute interprétée différemment aujourd'hui...
Je suis subjugué par cette interprétation . Pour moi celle de M.Pollini était la meilleure... Mais Pogorelich prend son temps, il vit intensément ce qu'il joue, on comprend tout et les constrastes sont saisissants. merci pour ce partage!
magnifico! interpretazione stupenda.....!
i think he approaches the trills in the last movement perfectly. when they are played perfectly evenly, they create a very chilling and deeply moving effect. tear-inducing
Magnifique interprétation !!!
Merci
Thank you so much for posting this. I've loved this piece for years and have never seen Pogorelich play it, although I've had the recording for a long time.
Я с Вами совершенно согласен! Иво Погорелич - прекрасный пианист!
Music is fortunately not a race. we have time to hear the subtleties especially in fugal passages. The rallentendos give much meaning to the work. This interpretation does not act here like a machine. Great !
Oh, how deep meanings! To interpret this music with the safety which makes Pogorelich you must have a very rich inner life, prolonged through the time ...
The clearly azure of the sky, I think, was opened only once, when the melody is fully translated into reality. However, it's music that fills the soul and accompanying it, is the key that opens the heart of Beethoven ...Dear Peterspel2: Very well that was the sound! Thank you with all my heart.
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Thank you! peterpels2
0:00 1. Maestoso - Allegro con brio ed appassionato
11:30 II. Arietta. Adagio
I like the 2nd movement and sleep at night listening to the Pogorelich Beethoven Klaviersonate c-Moll op. 111 CD.
I agree with you. Pogo is even better in his recording with Grammophone.
I can't think of any better recording for the opus 111.
Ovo je moja najdraža Beethovenova sonata, čisti jazz!
Exellent. I have now listen to Michellangeli,Richter, BAckhaus and Scnabel in this sonata and I now think that he beat them all.
sorry it doesn't really! in fact it beats none of them ! he completely fucked up the second movement!
Amir Motahari "he completely fucked up the second movement" that's the most unprofessional thing I've heard and probably you know nothing about classical piano music
Amir Motahari share your wisdom with us and Martha Argerich, please. What is fucked up?
Salar Nikkar He did fuck up that movement, and the first one; and also the everything he ever plays.
Christian Goergen aka AstraOovier I believe if you had listened enough recording by many other pianist and ponder music seriously, you will stand the same view with the comment.
I completely disagree that it's too slow -- it's perfect. This is not NASCAR, it's Beethoven.
This is not a Three-toed Sloth, It's Beethoven.
@Dinkelstein Kerman who said it is slow ? It is C minor. Just listen to the sound of it. It is like darkness and misery of all the world concentrated to the one piano sound. Are you deaf or what ?
1:33 is such a moving part to me . . . That minor 2nd just speaks to me
such a lovely clean sound-- a fantastic version of this classic
Fantasticno.......bravo Ivo
BRAVÍSSIMO INMORTAL MAESTRO..
there is something special about these late Beethoven sonatas...they are darker and more difficult. both to play and to understand. more complicated. but ever so brilliant.
He was completely deaf by then wasnt he? His whole mind and time orientation must have been altered somewhat, not to mention any general changes that would effect a powerful genius ever maturing and aging. I believe these late works are a very intimate look into the man Beethoven, as the God Beethoven was being diminished by his very human life.
Imafungi123 yep he was deaf...and i agree, his lates works are very intimate and also his best
Imafungi123 to clarify I must say Beethoven was the God Beethoven until the day he died
that's also because by the end of his life he wanted to write only music and did not care how difficult it was going to be on the piano...he was totally deaf when he wrote 111 but he obviously heard it in his head. this is also why it's very demanding for women to play , almost impossible...need very wide and strong hands.
Здесь он открыл бесконечное множество оттенков содержания, сохраняя бетховенское мужество и дух.
31:02 Simply incredible.
Браво, Иво ! Мне очень нравится этот виртуоз , смелый, яркий и самобытный !
I don't mind that he plays slower. I am not trained in music so when a pianist plays a piece slower and then I go back to my favorite version (In this case Brendel's) it helps me understand and appreciate it more. I think that some people can be snobs about their favorites, listening to how different pianist interpret a piece is fun. Music should unite us not divide us.
unbloodlybelievable....!!! thank you!!
Inimitable young Ivo Pogorelich
I wonder when this was recorded. He's still fairly young here and yet his reading is as mature as it is beautiful. This is a wonderful performance. I'm so glad we have it.
@Jemand Anderes Thanks. Listening now. Very nice.
Perfect!!!
Genius forever forever forever.❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Beethoven übertrifft sich hier selbst und das ist einfach schön. Chopin wird ihn - künstlerisch - bald darauf beerben und genau dort weitermachen, wo jener schließlich zum Abschluss kommen musste.
Aber es ist wunderbar, dass es Beethoven noch vergönnt war, bis dorthin vorzudringen. Pogorelich spielt hier langsamer, kontrollierter, vielleicht auch weniger leidenschaftlich, dafür aber deutlich gemessener und vielleicht sogar herrlicher als auf der Schallplattenaufnahme der Deutschen Grammophon von 1982.
Es ist eine sehr schöne Aufnahme und sie wird dem Stück absolut gerecht. Wie sich der Charakter eines Pianisten ändern kann, wird hier sichtbar, und das darf sein. Es lebe die Kunst :-)
Beethoven es el más grande genio de la humanidad.
sin duda ..pero me hustan los romanticos..
Ho appena ascoltato la recente esecuzione di Kissin di questo capolavoro assoluto. Bellissima, ma quella di Pogorelich è ancora irraggiungibile
Beethoven would be happy to hear this issue
maestro Ivo tyto kompleto ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Amen, brother.
It's really interesting to see how each pianist takes it to another place. His interpetation is much softer and bright than usual. Not my taste but still it's awsome
Si algún anunciante cree que interrumpir una obra de arte para hacer valer su mensaje le va reportar beneficios.......mas bien yo los señalo como nefastos y denosto completamente sus productos. Si al menos hicieran valer sus mensajes al final de un movimiento....lo aceptaría.
It is very impressive how precise Pogorelich plays this masterpiece. The second set in the beginning a bit to slow for my liking but overall a very impressive and perfect performance. Despite the slowness in the first part of the second part, I prefer Beethoven to be performed not too fast and not too furious - that was not possible in the days of Beethoven because the grand pianos did not allow it. I like that performance a lot.
Absolument sublime.:)
Magnific
I like the way he strikes the keys
Ivo!!!!! Lo amo...
Gorgeous.
Thanks a lot. Deep stuff.
🌹Just one word
Genius 🌹
divinity, no matter what kind of divine, just flows through him.
12:30...13:30....14:30 this is cosmic
素晴らしい‼️
You just do not know that Pogorelich has his own tempo! He always had! He is a completely unique pianist in every sense,but be careful in the way you judge his performance, because HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING, it is not just a sloppy amateur confounded with the original partiture! And BTH, Backhaus was magnificent,and I regret to say this, but please, your commentary sounds a little moronic...He was certainly not the "only one that played this sonata in the right way"!!!!!
amazing
I've heard that Beethoven and his contemporaries played music at a very fast tempo; that was apparently the custom then. Faster tempos were also used in performances of his symphonies. But Beethoven's music seems to gain greater profundity with the slower tempos. For example, check out the 1960's recordings of Klemperer conducting the 3rd & 7th; these are among my favorites. As for Sonata 32, my favorite recording (that I've heard) is Sviatoslav Richter performing before a live audience in Moscow, 12 Jan. 1975 -- a very profound performance.
Ivo Pogorelic w Sonacie c-Moll op.111 Beethovena tej trudnej technicznie jak zwykle błyskotliwy i perfekcyjny
absolutely convincing
no false depth
absolutely true!